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Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by orisa37: 6:28pm On Jul 03, 2022
HE WAS AT THE GRAVESIDE ON FRIDAY AND LEFT THE GRAVESIDE ON SUNDAY.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 6:31pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:

Of course, Jesus rose after the Sabbath, precisely on the first day after the Sabbath (i.e. which is the weekly and regular Sabbath) and the first day of the week, as per Mathew 28:1, but you havent answered the question nah.

Starting backwards, from the first day of the week, as quoted in Mathew 28:1, that Jesus rose after the Sabbath, give details how the 72 hours of being dead, were reached....

It is you who is introducing and computing "72 hours" . That is not my case.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 6:38pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
It is you who is introducing and computing "72 hours". That is not my case.
John 11:9
'Jesus answered,
“Are there not twelve hours of daylight?

Anyone who walks in the daytime will not stumble, for they see by this world’s light.
'

Of course, Jesus rose after the Sabbath, precisely on the first day after the Sabbath (i.e. which is the weekly and regular Sabbath) and the first day of the week, as per Mathew 28:1, but you havent answered the question nah.

Starting backwards, from the first day of the week, as quoted in Mathew 28:1, that Jesus rose after the Sabbath, give details how the 72 hours of being dead, were reached.

I am sure you know the implication of what Jesus, as seen, from John 11:9 above, means, by Him, saying that the length of a day is 12 hours.

Now by means of mathematics, 3 days and 3 nights makes what? Is it not 72 hours then? grin
[(12+12)+(12+12)+(12+12)] = 72 hours

If your case, is not 72 hours, then how many hours, was Jesus dead for before resurrecting? grin

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 6:45pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:

Starting backwards, from the first day of the week, as quoted in Mathew 28:1, that Jesus rose after the Sabbath, give details how the 72 hours of being dead, were reached...

That is not my problem at all.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 6:48pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


"Friday evening" is Saturday. So you have thrown away the day He died which is Friday. "Friday afternoon"
what are you saying? He died 3pm on Friday. At least, you know how to count.
3pm Friday evening to Saturday morning is one day. Saturday evening to Sunday morning is the next day.

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Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 6:53pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
That is not my problem at all.
Genesis 1:3-5, 8
'3And God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
4God saw that the light was good (pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it;
and God separated the light [distinguishing it] from the darkness.
5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
8God called the expanse [of sky] heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
'

What is not your problem at all?

You see the pattern in Genesis 1:5, 8 above. Yeah? (i.e. that, always, evening before morning, makes a day)
Are you not able to mathematically show how 3 days and 3 nights were reached? grin

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 6:56pm On Jul 03, 2022
tctrills:
what are you saying? He died 3pm on Friday. At least, you know how to count.
3pm Friday evening to Saturday morning is one day. Saturday evening to Sunday morning is the next day.

That is not how God counts His Day!
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 7:01pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
That is not how God counts His Day!
Please with bible references share how God counts His Day and relate it with the 3 days and 3 nights that Jesus was in the grave before resurrection

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:02pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:

You see the pattern in Genesis 1:5, 8 above. Yeah? (i.e. that, always, evening before morning, makes a day)
Are you not able to mathematically show how 3 days and 3 nights were reached? grin

And I have given the computation of a day using the evening and the morning view which shows that 1 Corinthians 15:4 which says He rose up on the 3rd Day is accurate.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:05pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:
Please with bible references share how God counts His Day and relate it with the 3 days and 3 nights that Jesus was in the grave before resurrection

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

That was my very first response

tctrills:
Why do we keep saying that Christ was in the grave for 3 days? Friday evening to Sunday morning is actually less than 2 days.
How come we keep getting this wrong.
If I travel on Friday and return on Sunday, did I travel for 2 days or 3 days?

I thought I told you before. Genesis 1
and other scripture shows you that God starts counting a day from the evening to the morning and not morning and evening as the world has taught everyone to count.

So Friday starts from Thursday evening to Friday afternoon. (Day 1) Saturday starts Friday evening to Saturday afternoon (Day 2) and Sunday starts Saturday evening to Sunday afternoon (Day 3)
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 7:09pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:
Genesis 1:5
'And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
And the evening and the morning were the first day.
'

This is part of reason, why earlier above, I provided Genesis 1:5 repeated again here, as proof.

1 Corinthians 15:4
'and that He was buried, and that He was [bodily] raised on the third day
according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],
'

Matthew 12:40
'For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish,
so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
'

The 13th of Nisan, Tuesday evening, becomes 14th of Nisan the day of passover and Jesus was captured in the night, to then be crucified on the Passover day, 14th of Nisan Thursday afternoon and buried because the next day Friday, was a High Sabbath (i.e. feast of Unleaved bread and the Jews didn't want bodies to be on the cross on this day)

You're mixing up the High Sabbath with the regular and normal weekly Sabbath.

Jesus rose after the third day, which is after the regular and weekly normal Sabbath day.

Now please tell me, which Sabbath, are we talking off here, that will give exactly 72 hours to when Jesus resurrected from being dead?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.


Dtruthspeaker:


And I have given the computation of a day using the evening and the morning view which shows that 1 Corinthians 15:4 which says He rose up on the 3rd Day is accurate.
1 Corinthians 15:4
'and that He was buried, and that He was [bodily] raised on the third day
according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],
'

Matthew 12:39-40
39Jesus replied, “A wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth


Please compare 1 Corinthians 15:4 with Matthew 12:39-40, and use both verses, to list all the days, that Jesus, before resurrection, was in the grave for

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:13pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:

Please compare 1 Corinthians 15:4 with Matthew 12:39-40, and use both verses, to list all the days, that Jesus, before resurrection, was in the grave for...

Mathew 16:21 and other scriptures from Hosea to Luke to Mark, all support 1 Corinthians 15:4

So Mathew 12 stands alone.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 7:14pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
That was my very first response

I thought I told you before. Genesis 1
and other scripture shows you that God starts counting a day from the evening to the morning and not morning and evening as the world has taught everyone to count.

So Friday starts from Thursday evening to Friday afternoon. (Day 1) Saturday starts Friday evening to Saturday afternoon (Day 2) and Sunday starts Saturday evening to Sunday afternoon (Day 3)
1. Where are the 3 nights then? grin
2. Show the 3 days and 3 nights please (i.e. how it agrees with Matthew 12:39-40)

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:17pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:
1. Where are the 3 nights then? grin
2. Show the 3 days and 3 nights please (i.e. how it agrees with Matthew 12:39-40)

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Mathew 12 stands alone. Hosea, Luke, Mark, Acts support 1 Corinthians 15:4
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by sonmvayina(m): 7:18pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:
1. Where are the 3 nights then? grin
2. Show the 3 days and 3 nights please (i.e. how it agrees with Matthew 12:39-40)

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

People just stick to the synoptic gospels..

John is none sense..
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 7:19pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Mathew 16:21 and other scriptures from Hosea to Luke to Mark, all support 1 Corinthians 15:4

So Mathew 12 stands alone.
Matthew 12:39-40
39Jesus replied, “A wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Jonah 1:17
Now the LORD had appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah spent three days and three nights in the belly of the fish

Matthew 12:40 doesnt stand alone, as, it has a precedent and corroborating witness in the verse of Jonah 1:17

Jesus Christ said, He will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Now please provide the 3 days and 3 nights

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:25pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:
Matthew 12:39-40
39Jesus replied, “A wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Jonah 1:17
Now the LORD had appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah spent three days and three nights in the belly of the fish

Matthew 12:40 doesnt stand alone, as, it has a precedent and corroborating witness in the verse of Jonah 1:17

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Your research shows it stands alone on saying Christ rose after 3 days and nights", where others say "on the 3rd day".

Jonah does not count it is only a case in reference and not a declaration.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 7:36pm On Jul 03, 2022
NNTR:
Genesis 1:3-5, 8
'3And God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
4God saw that the light was good (pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it;
and God separated the light [distinguishing it] from the darkness.
5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
8God called the expanse [of sky] heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
'

What is not your problem at all?

You see the pattern in Genesis 1:5, 8 above. Yeah? (i.e. that, always, evening before morning, makes a day)
Are you not able to mathematically show how 3 days and 3 nights were reached? grin

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



Dtruthspeaker:
Your research shows it stands alone on saying Christ rose after 3 days and nights", where others say "on the 3rd day".

Jonah does not count it is only a case in reference and not a declaration.


If Jesus called attention to Jonah 1:17, then Jonah, definitely 200% does count, and makes it not only a major case in reference to His 3 days and 3 nights in the grave and also an incontrovertible declaration.

Let's do it this way.
1a. After the weekly and regular normal Sabbath, at dawn, on the first day of the week, when Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb Jesus was buried, what did the angel tell them about Jesus please?
1b. Look at above diagram, then compare with Genesis 1:5, 8. Capisce?
2. How many days and nights did scripture and Jesus prophesied that He will be in earth for?
3. Give the sequential 12 hour periods, that Jesus was in earth for
4. How many sabbaths occurred during the period of Jesus' death and resurrection?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 8:28pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


That was my very first response



I thought I told you before. Genesis 1
and other scripture shows you that God starts counting a day from the evening to the morning and not morning and evening as the world has taught everyone to count.

So Friday starts from Thursday evening to Friday afternoon. (Day 1) Saturday starts Friday evening to Saturday afternoon (Day 2) and Sunday starts Saturday evening to Sunday afternoon (Day 3)
I agreed with you with Genesis 1 but you seem to have an issue with simple maths. Why calculate from Thursday. Christ did not die on Thursday
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 8:29pm On Jul 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


That is not how God counts His Day!
You quoted Genesis 1
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 6:58am On Jul 04, 2022
tctrills:
You quoted Genesis 1

For you to see how God measures and counts a day.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:00am On Jul 04, 2022
tctrills:

I agreed with you with Genesis 1 but you seem to have an issue with simple maths. Why calculate from Thursday. Christ did not die on Thursday

Friday starts from Thursday.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 7:03am On Jul 04, 2022
NNTR:


John 19:31
It was the day of preparation, and the Jewish leaders didn’t want the bodies hanging there the next day, which was the Sabbath
(and a very special Sabbath, because it was Passover week).
So they asked Pilate to hasten their deaths by ordering that their legs be broken. Then their bodies could be taken down.


It is because Jesus was hanged on the cross by 9:00am on Thursday, died by 3:00pm same Thursday day and was buried, again, on same Thursday day before sundown. Another biblical fact worth noting is that the Jewish day begins and ends at sundown, as in, sundown, is the time in the evening when the sun disappears or daylight fades.

Going on the authority of John 19:31 above, the biblical fact, reveals that the Last Supper occurred on Wednesday, never a Thursday, and so clearly shows that Jesus Christ, in fact, was crucified on Thursday, and never a Friday.

Here's how it looks:
1. Thursday day to Thursday night:
Jesus was on the cross by 9:00am, died by 3:00pm and off the cross before sundown so Day 1
The Jewish day starts at sundown or nightfall of the previous evening, and continues throughout the night and following day, until the next night.
2. Friday morning to Friday night day:
Night 1 and Day 2
3. Saturday morning to Saturday night:
Night 2 and Day 3
4. Sunday morning:
Night 3
Resurrection morning (i.e. Jesus rosed after sundown, before sunrise of Day 4)

Remember that night, always comes before the day, and hence you have the required 3 Days and 3 Nights in the grave

cc Dtruthspeaker
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



Dtruthspeaker:
Friday starts from Thursday.

Dtruthspeaker:
For you to see how God measures and counts a day.
Please show, using scripture (i.e. the bible verse(s)) how God, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, counted three nights and three days and equated them to be 3 days.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 7:12am On Jul 04, 2022
NNTR:





Please show, using scripture (i.e. the bible verse(s)) how God, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, counted three nights and three days and equated to be 3 days...

Why repeat yourself? I clearly showed you that Mathew 12 stands while Mathew 16:21 and other scriptures from Hosea to Luke to Mark, all support 1 Corinthians 15:4 and Mathew 16:21.

And you could not counter this, so, there is no thing here.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by NNTR: 10:13am On Jul 04, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Why repeat yourself? I clearly showed you that Mathew 12 stands while Mathew 16:21 and other scriptures from Hosea to Luke to Mark, all support 1 Corinthians 15:4 and Mathew 16:21.

And you could not counter this, so, there is no thing here.
Genesis 1:3-5, 8, 12-13
'3And God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
4God saw that the light was good (pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it;
and God separated the light [distinguishing it] from the darkness.
5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
8God called the expanse [of sky] heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
12The earth sprouted and abundantly produced vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their kind,
and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, according to their kind;
and God saw that it was good and He affirmed and sustained it.
13
And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.

The thing, is due to arrogance, you fail, to understand that Jesus with Matthew 12:39-40, specifically and explicitly made mentioned reference to prophet Jonah in Jonah 1:17 and hinted with it something about a sign. Now the question, is. What precisely is the sign, Jesus pinpointed to, in Matthew 12:39-40 and Jonah 1:17?

I'll help you along with your blind side, by using Genesis 1:5, 8,13, to show you how God right from the beginning, mathematically has 3 days and 3 nights, to make 3 days.

Genesis 1:3-5, 8, 12-13, shows how many days and nights, are required, to give a third day. So in effect if Jesus raised on the third day, it means he spent 3 nights and 3 days in the grave (i.e. [(12+12)+(12+12)+(12+12)] = 72 hours)

Jesus, kindly enough, in John 11:9, has let us know that there are twelve hours of daylight

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 10:56am On Jul 04, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Friday starts from Thursday.
see confusion.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 11:09am On Jul 04, 2022
NNTR:
Genesis 1:3-5, 8, 12-13
The thing, is due to arrogance, you fail, to understand that Jesus with Matthew 12:39-40, specifically and explicitly made mentioned reference to prophet Jonah in Jonah 1:17 and hinted with it something about a sign. Now the question, is. What precisely is the sign, Jesus pinpointed to, in Matthew 12:39-40 and Jonah 1:17?

I'll help you along with your blind side, by using Genesis 1:5, 8,13, to show you how God right from the beginning, mathematically has 3 days and 3 nights, to make 3 days.

Genesis 1:3-5, 8, 12-13, shows how many days and nights, are required, to give a third day. So in effect if Jesus raised on the third day, it means he spent 3 nights and 3 days in the grave (i.e. [(12+12)+(12+12)+(12+12)] = 72 hours)

Jesus, kindly enough, in John 11:9, has let us know that there are twelve hours of daylight

All this is you attempting to prove your own case and I did not ask you to. So you are doing a nullity.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 11:12am On Jul 04, 2022
tctrills:
see confusion.

By reason of your preset blindness and unwillingness to accept The Truth you have seen.
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by tctrills: 11:15am On Jul 04, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


By reason of your blindness and unwillingness to accept The Truth you have seen.
According to your calculation, Thursday is Friday. Have you no shame? We all lie but you have taken lies to a new level. The devil will be envious of you.

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Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Maynman: 11:16am On Jul 04, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


By reason of your preset blindness and unwillingness to accept The Truth you have seen.


Accept you fumbled Chrestian, is this what your Jesus Chrestus taught you?

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Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by Dtruthspeaker: 11:21am On Jul 04, 2022
tctrills:

According to your calculation, Thursday is Friday. Have you no shame? We all lie but you have taken lies to a new level. The devil will be envious of you.

Now you are the wicked Liar for I clearly showed you this calculation in my very first post and you could not dispute it then.

Now, after a day has passed after you could not shake it, you call me a Liar and an an evil, WHEREAS IT IS YOU WHO IS THE EVIL!

Now, you have brought evil upon yourself for it is Written evil purseueth the wicked.

So, Cursed shall your days be!
Re: Jesus Christ Spent 2 Days In The Grave Not 3 by SharonLoveth(f): 11:25am On Jul 04, 2022
Maynman:


Accept you fumbled Chrestian, is this what your Jesus Chrestus taught you?

Looking for attention by all means and I love as you were been ignored! cheesy

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