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advocatejare:
There is only one Jesus Christ, the one you have in Islam is a figment of imagination of Muhammad, your fake Jesus in Islam is a coward that abandoned his mission and had another person die his death.

The real Biblical Jesus fulfilled his mission and the prophecies of the prophets of old about his death and resurrection and we his followers are proud of him and we can talk about how he died.


Can you Muslims tell us how Muhammad died, how he was shouting of pains and agony, how he was left unburied for 3 days, how his followers started killing one another immediately after his death?
You Muslims have always run away from discussing the circumstances surrounding the death of Muhammad because you are ashamed of him. If you are not, tell us




That is the lie Al-Makireena the best of the deceivers told you and that’s why you’re killing animals today because you thing animals blood can cleanse your sins

advocatejare:
1. Non-Jews were enjoined to keep 3 laws, one of which is to avoid meats offered to idols:

2. An idol is any gods who is not Yahweh, the Holy One of Israel. Yahweh is not Allah. Allah is the pagan moon god of the Quarysh tribe of Mecca .

10 And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: 
11 it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” 
12 Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were soffended when they heard this saying?” 
13 He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted uwill be rooted up. 
14 Let them alone; vthey are blind guides. And wif the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” 
15 But Peter said to him, “Explain the parable to us.” 
16 And he said, “Are you also still without understanding? 
17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled?
18 But awhat comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. 
19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.
20 These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.” - Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20

Lukuluku69:
Dumbo, thier is only one Yahushua of Nazareth but many stories of his life and times here on earth.

The Jews have their own stories about him, so are the Christians. Same for the Muslims.

Believe anyone you like, that is your own business and let me believe what I want of him. That is my own business too.

As for the Ram/s, Abraham killed one and so are we Muslims. If you like go jump in a Lake, Jo kan aye.

Kobojunkie:
1. If you had paid close attention to the details of what the disciples said there in Acts 15, you would have also realized that they meant that to apply only to the Christians who lived there in the Nation of Israel. The Old Law of Moses was given by God as the Constitution of the State of Israel and so those affected by it where the Jewish people whom God gave it to - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the foreigners who live among them in the Land of Canaan.

God intentionally excluded all other Nations from that Covenant and rightly so. So you living in Nigeria pretending to live by what God has set for the Constitution of the Nation of Israel , do so in ignorance and arrogance of God's Truth..

2. What God's New Covenant Law and Gospel in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, said to you on this matter is instead....
Jesus Christ you are free to eat anything you want and never worry about it being unclean or able to make you unclean , this since it is not what you eat that can make you unclean - Mark 7 vs 9 - 23.

So don't let me shackle you with their lies born of ignorance of the Word of God. Eat all you want to eat and never worry because Jesus Christ us God's Truth, to very Word out of God's mouth by which you are meant to live your very life - Matthew 4 vs 4.

Kobojunkie:
1. If you had paid close attention to the details of what the disciples said there in Acts 15, you would have also realized that they meant that to apply only to the Christians who lived there in the Nation of Israel. The Old Law of Moses was given by God as the Constitution of the State of Israel and so those affected by it where the Jewish people whom God gave it to - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the foreigners who live among them in the Land of Canaan.

God intentionally excluded all other Nations from that Covenant and rightly so. So you living in Nigeria pretending to live by what God has set for the Constitution of the Nation of Israel , do so in ignorance and arrogance of God's Truth..

2. What God's New Covenant Law and Gospel in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, said to you on this matter is instead....
Jesus Christ you are free to eat anything you want and never worry about it being unclean or able to make you unclean , this since it is not what you eat that can make you unclean - Mark 7 vs 9 - 23.

So don't let me shackle you with their lies born of ignorance of the Word of God. Eat all you want to eat and never worry because Jesus Christ us God's Truth, to very Word out of God's mouth by which you are meant to live your very life - Matthew 4 vs 4.

advocatejare:
Go and eat meats sacrificed to Sango, Ogun etc and come back here

immaculatesense:
Dear Kobojunkie
U are partly correct but as far as it regard ceremonial clean and unclean animals...but as long as food offered to idols...I know u like specific on Jesus statement alone...Hear wat Jesus himself said.
Revelation 2:14,20
[14]“But I have a few complaints against you. You tolerate some among you whose teaching is like that of Balaam, who showed Balak how to trip up the people of Israel. He taught them to sin by eating food offered to idols and by committing sexual sin.
[20]“But I have this complaint against you. You are permitting that woman—that Jezebel who calls herself a prophet—to lead my servants astray. She teaches them to commit sexual sin and to eat food offered to idols.

Jesus too do not tolerate food offered to idols...but the question is...wat is idols...is Allah an idol or God worshiped by Muslims in a different way?...dats a question that needs to be answered individually to make individual choice.

Thank u

advocatejare:
Don’t evade the questions you were asked:
Can you Muslims tell us how Muhammad died, how he was shouting of pains and agony, how he was left unburied for 3 days, how his followers started killing one another immediately after his death?
You Muslims have always run away from discussing the circumstances surrounding the death of Muhammad because you are ashamed of him. If you are not, tell us

Kobojunkie:
I eat them all because I believe in Jesus Christ. He even said I can eat poison and it will not harm me - Mark 16 vs 15 - 17.. So my obvious question to you is why do you not believe God's Truth given to you?

advocatejare:
Show us the video of yourself eating vulture, meat sacrificed to ogun and sango and drinking poison then I’ll take you seriously. Until then…

Kobojunkie:
Again, do you not believe Jesus Christ is the question.

advocatejare:
Do what I asked you to do to show your believe in Jesus.
Show us the video of yourself eating vulture, meat sacrificed to ogun and sango and drinking poison then I’ll take you seriously. Until then…

Kobojunkie:
In John 6 vs 25 - 35 , Jesus Christ explained that the work He has for His followers to do is to believe in Him. You are not called to be my follower that you would need a video of my person eating meat sacrificed to an idol or drinking poison in order to believe in me. You instead claim Jesus Christ as your Savior and Redeemer, and so it is His Truth you are meant to believe in.

So do you really believe in Jesus Christ or do you not believe in Jesus Christ, that is the question.

advocatejare:
You lied that you have eaten meat sacrificed to Ogun and Sango before and that you can drink poison. Then show me the proof if you are not a liar

Kobojunkie:
How did I lie?

Lukuluku69:
If you want to know how The Prophet died, make Google your companion. Buy Data and get busy.

advocatejare:
Check the screenshots below
If you didn’t lie, show us the proof

Kobojunkie:
How did you deduce that statement a lie?

advocatejare:
You claim that you eat them all, show us proof if you are not a liar. I won’t reply you again if you can’t be honourable enough to prove yourself.

advocatejare:
So you’re not proud of how your prophet died?

Until when you’re bold enough to tel us how he died, stop mentioning me

alfarouq:
It is very funny that people who worship a man and even sculpt his image accuse Muslims of worshipping idol.

alfarouq:
It is very funny that people who worship a man and even sculpt his image accuse Muslims of worshipping idol.

Lukuluku69:
According to your own records, your Lord and personal saviour couldn't safe himself nor could his Dad do. According to your records, he died among common thieves, naked and hanging on a cross: the death of an ACCURSED OF GOD.
So, what are you capping about?

Lukuluku69:
he died in his home surrounded by family members and some of his companions. He died when his mission was completed.

Kobojunkie:
Not trying to hold brief for anyone, but your statement above is based on ignorance.

Jesus Christ clearly explained that He voluntarily gave up His life in order to accomplish His mission here on earth. He went to to learnts to explain this before He was taken away to be killed. So why would He need any saving?

He volunteered to be cursed on a tree in order that He may overcome all of Death, so what is wrong with His death being accursed?,

He accomplished His mission and overcame even the accursed death, so what did He loose? Nothing! But as He told you before His death, it was all so He could gain everything.

Lukuluku69:
1. Volunteered you say? So, why did he wait before Judas rat him out!

2. He could have taken the plunge headlong when Satan asked him to jump from that mountain top when Satan took him on that excursion nah He could have asked for the Swords his disciples were carrying around and do a Japanese harakiri rather than wait for the Jews to have to pay to have his head nah abi?

3. If truly he came to die, why put others thru the hassle of condemnation?

Oga, Jesus of Nazareth came to herald the coming Kingdom of God on earth and not to die any stupid die

advocatejare:
The reason Muslims can’t talk about Muhammad’s death freely is because his death as no positive spiritual significance. He was poisoned and died with his aorta torn like foretold in the Quran that if Muhammad was falsifying things, he would be cut in the aorta:

It was confirmed that Muhammad fabricated some of the things he attributed to Allah in the Quran as Allah had Muhammad's aorta cut as he threatened :

Muhammed had his aorta cut to prove his fabrications
"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings," (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)

"We would have seized him by the right hand;" (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)

"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)

Like the Quran said, Mohammed had his aorta cut,

"Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
-Bukhari 5:59:713

"...He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta."
- Sunan Abu Dawood 39:4495-4498


Muhammad failed this test:
Muhammad claimed that his sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate and that his aorta was cut

Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

Kobojunkie:
1. Do you understand the meaning of the word Volunteer?

Judas's betrayal was part of the death that Jesus Christ volunteered for.

2. He had a mission which was prophesied to happen a certain way whiche He volunteered for?

3. Where did you read of Jesus Christ putting you through your hassle of condemnation?

4. Yes, Jesus Christ did not die any stupid die because His death was planned and He spoke of it as His mission in order to achieving His end goal..

Lukuluku69:
Quit those Jewish site. They are condemned. They will drag you down with them.

The Prophet lived for 63 years. True the Jews poisoned him at Khaybar. But you are so dumb not to situate that Khaybar incidents to the time he passes on.

He still lived for years.

Lukuluku69:
1. Judas betrayal was part of Paul's Film? Ok. I hear you

2. Jesus mission I repeat is to herald the coming kingdom of God on earth and warn those Jewish Reprobates to get ready and join that Nation.

3. His "Death" is meaningless to me. Salvation is in Faith in God, keeping His Commandments and doing good to fellow creatures. End of.

advocatejare:
Your sahih Hadith are Jewish sites?


You mean the person that kept on shouting on his death bed that he was dying from the poison he ate at Khaibar was dumb and you’re wiser than him?


In agony and excruciating pain, he couldn’t even walk. He was dragging his feet even when supported by two men, he was going on and off into coma

Narrated By 'Aisha(The wife of the Prophet) "When the ailment of Allah's Apostle became aggravated, he requested his wives to permit him to be (treated) nursed in my house, and they gave him permission. He came out (to my house), walking between two men with his feet dragging on the ground, between 'Abbas bin 'Abdul-Muttalib and another man"...
- Bukhari 5:59:727


Sahih Bukhari 5:59:721 Narrated By 'Aisha
When Allah 's Apostle was in good health, he used to say, "Never does a prophet die unless he is shown his place in Paradise (before his death), and then he is made alive or given option." When the Prophet became ill and his last moments came while his head was on my thigh, he became unconscious, and when he came to his senses, he looked towards the roof of the house and then said, "O Allah! (Please let me be) with the highest companion." Thereupon I said, "Hence he is not going to stay with us? " Then I came to know that his state was the confirmation of the narration he used to mention to us while he was in good health.


Narrated By 'Aisha
It was one of the favours of Allah towards me that Allah's Apostle expired in my house on the day of my turn while he was leaning against my chest and Allah made my saliva mix with his saliva at his death. 'Abdur-Rahman entered upon me with a Siwak in his hand and I was supporting (the back of) Allah's Apostle (against my chest). I saw the Prophet looking at it (i.e. Siwak) and I knew that he loved the Siwak, so I said (to him), "Shall I take it for you ? " He nodded in agreement. So I took it and it was too stiff for him to use, so I said, "Shall I soften it for you ?" He nodded his approval. So I softened it and he cleaned his teeth with it. In front of him there was a jug or a tin, (The sub-narrator, 'Umar is in doubt as to which was right) containing water. He started dipping his hand in the water and rubbing his face with it, he said, "None has the right to be worshipped except Allah. Death has its agonies." He then lifted his hands (towards the sky) and started saying, "With the highest companion," till he expired and his hand
dropped down.
-Sahih Bukhari 5:59:730