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Lukuluku69:
Retardinho,

All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.
-- Isaiah 60:7

Keep mocking "The House of God's Glory" in Kedarland. I know you are forever dumb and blind.

Your Kaaba is the house of pagan idol of the Quraysh called Allah

The people of Mecca have been worshipping stones even before Muhammad was born and it was recorded in your hadith

mhmsadyq:
Wahala for persin wey go give you salah meat!

Me i dey my house dey tear my meat!

Good for you, you’re only following Abdulmuttalib, the pagan grandfather of Muhammad

I just got back home with my family..

Enough.chopping of Salah ram.

Me nah idol self, e no go do me anything..

advocatejare:
Your Kaaba is the house of pagan idol of the Quraysh called Allah

The people of Mecca have been worshipping stones even before Muhammad was born and it was recorded in your hadith

Like Jesus that nailed on the Cross, wail on........

Kobojunkie:
Again, I am not here to hold brief for the one whom you are debating but your claims regarding what is written in Isaiah 60 are false..

The chapter's content make it instead clear that Herds of animals is what wil be obtained from Kedar, Nebaioth as well as surrounding areas to be taken and slaughtered on the altar in the house of God's glory which is in the city of Jerusalem.

Lol. So when your Jewish messiah comes, only animals for Villages/tent of Kedar is the only auitable for him? Abi? Only animals from dwellings of Ishmael's sons will be suitable for him? Keep the faith oooo.
Australian Goats/sheep/Herds not good enough abi? And the whole of Israel has gone Hitech that no animals can be found for this Jewish figure but that of Arabian peninsula?

Lukuluku69:
1. Lol. So when your Jewish messiah comes, only animals for Villages/tent of Kedar is the only auitable for him? Abi? Only animals from dwellings of Ishmael's sons will be suitable for him? Keep the faith oooo.

2. Australian Goats/sheep/Herds not good enough abi? And the whole of Israel has gone Hitech that no animals can be found for this Jewish figure but that of Arabian peninsula?

1. Dwelling of Ishmael's sons?

According to Isaiah, animals will be transported from as far as those locations to Jerusalem to be used as offerings in Jerusalem. That is what is written. Those who wil gather in Jerusalem will be sons and daughters of Israel.

2. Read the chapter abeg! You are told that sons and daughters of Israel will troop in from all nations, tribes and languages of the world, back to Jerusalem. Where do you think it would make sense to source animals for the altar from ?

Kobojunkie:
1. Dwelling of Ishmael's sons?

According to Isaiah, animals will be transported from as far as those locations to Jerusalem to be used as offerings in Jerusalem. That is what is written. Those who wil gather in Jerusalem will be sons and daughters of Israel.

2. Read the chapter abeg! You are told that sons and daughters of Israel will troop in from all nations, tribes and languages of the world, back to Jerusalem. Where do you think it would make sense to source animals for the altar from ?

Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.
For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
-- Isaiah 60:1-5
Verse 1. Talked about his calling

Verse 2. Talked about the condition of Nations as at the time of his calling. Spiritual Darkness in the whole world. Everyone fashioned God according to the working of their Brain

Verse 3. Talked about the scope of his Mandate: The whole world and not a Lost Tribe of the Reprobates. Among his companions will be citizens from all Nations and not Jews alone

Verse 4. In that Servant lifetime, different people will submit/accept him as a Messenger of God. Was Jesus accepted in his lifetime by Jews/Israel?

Verse 5. Talked about different Nations in the ancients came to that Messenger. How many Nation did Jesus send emissary to? How many Kings did he spoke with? The only two leaders he ever spoke to were Pilate and Herod and it was at his supposed Trial.

Kobojunkie:
1. Dwelling of Ishmael's sons?

According to Isaiah, animals will be transported from as far as those locations to Jerusalem to be used as offerings in Jerusalem. That is what is written. Those who wil gather in Jerusalem will be sons and daughters of Israel.

2. Read the chapter abeg! You are told that sons and daughters of Israel will troop in from all nations, tribes and languages of the world, back to Jerusalem. Where do you think it would make sense to source animals for the altar from ?

The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the Lord.
All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.
Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?
Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the Lord thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.
-- Isaiah 60:6-9
Verse 6. Midian, Ephah, Sheba (Yemen) are all nations in and around Arabia that sent emissary to The Arabian Prophet during his lifetime. They all brought gift and accepted him in his lifetime. Can you say this of Jesus?

Verse 7. "The Flocks of Kedar" represents the the entire Àrabs and they all gathered around that Messenger and acclaimed him a messenger. Also the "Rams of Nebiaioth" represents the leaders of a tribe that descend from Nebiaoth of son of Abraham. Did Arabs came to Jesus at anytime in his ministry? And the house of my glory? That is the Kaaba built by Abraham and his son Ishmael in the Wilderness of Paran. It was the Arabian Prophet who cleansed it and ever since people from every Nation came with acceptable offerings on God's alter. Can you say the same of Jesus? Was he from the Village that Kedar inhabited? Did he preaches among Arabs?

Verse 8. Those flying like doves are those people that are going for Hajj every year!

Verse 9. What is That Tarshish or were is Tarshish? Tarshish is present day Turkey, they became Muslims and the isles? Indonesia, Malaysia and many other island became Muslims.

Lukuluku69:
Verse 1. Talked about his calling
Verse 2. Talked about the condition of Nations as at the time of his calling. Spiritual Darkness in the whole world. Everyone fashioned God according to the working of their Brain
Verse 3. Talked about the scope of his Mandate: The whole world and not a Lost Tribe of the Reprobates. Among his companions will be citizens from all Nations and not Jews alone
Verse 4. In that Servant lifetime, different people will submit/accept him as a Messenger of God. Was Jesus accepted in his lifetime by Jews/Israel?
Verse 5. Talked about different Nations in the ancients came to that Messenger. How many Nation did Jesus send emissary to? How many Kings did he spoke with? The only two leaders he ever spoke to were Pilate and Herod and it was at his supposed Trial.

Open your eyes and stop lying to yourself about what is clearly written in human language for anyone who honestly seeks knowledge to digest.

Who is his? What servant? The entire chapter is about the city of Jerusalem in Israel, not an individual, and describes the events to take place when the Lord will gather sons and daughters from all Nations and tribes of the world back to her. Animals to be used as burnt offerings wil be sourced from places as far as kedar, etc.

Verse 10, 11, and 12 speak of his gates, walls and even the Lord’s sanctuary within the city. It isn't even until you get to Verse 16 that God Himself declares that He is the Redeemer/Messiah/Saviour,the Mighty one of Jacob who reigns over Israel.

Open your eyes and mind so you can honestly approach what is written without what is ignorance.

Lukuluku69:
Like Jesus that nailed on the Cross, wail on........

His death on the cross has significance.

What is the significance of Muhammad dying in agony from the poison that torn his aorta which confirmed the words of the Quran that he was fabricating things!

advocatejare:
His death on the cross has significance.

What is the significance of Muhammad dying in agony from the poison that torn his aorta which confirmed the words of the Quran that he was fabricating things!

His "Death" brought wailings on the Cross and after the Cross.

And you are still wailing. So, wail on......

Kobojunkie:
Open your eyes and stop lying to yourself about what is clearly written in human language for anyone who honestly seeks knowledge to digest.

Who is his? What servant? The entire chapter is about the city of Jerusalem in Israel, not an individual, and describes the events to take place when the Lord will gather sons and daughters from all Nations and tribes of the world back to her. Animals to be used as burnt offerings wil be sourced from places as far as kedar, etc.

Verse 10, 11, and 12 speak of his gates, walls and even the Lord’s sanctuary within the city. It isn't even until you get to Verse 16 that God Himself declares that He is the Redeemer/Messiah/Saviour,the Mighty one of Jacob who reigns over Israel.

Open your eyes and mind so you can honestly approach what is written without what is ignorance.

Lol. Talking about Israel but kept mentioning Ishmaelites names?

Continue ooo

Lukuluku69:
His "Death" brought wailings on the Cross and after the Cross.

And you are still wailing. So, wail on......

Wetin dem ask you, wetin una dey talk

advocatejare:
His death on the cross has significance.

What is the significance of Muhammad dying in agony from the poison that torn his aorta which confirmed the words of the Quran that he was fabricating things!

ANTIlSLAM:
Wetin dem ask you, wetin una dey talk

Wehreydinho, the death of any man, anyone has no spiritual implications on my salvation.

John The Baptist head was chopped, the Bible records that Zacharias was killed by the Jews and it is reported that the Jews are Prophets Klliers, does chopping John The Baptist head reduce him as God's Prophet?

But you guys are bereft of reasoning, Deaf, dumb and blind.

Lukuluku69:
Lol. Talking about Israel but kept mentioning Ishmaelites names?

Continue ooo

The chapter is quite clear on reason for the mentions though.

So why do you refuse that which Isaiah plainly explained all so you can cling to those delusion you hold to instead? Is Isaiah not a prophet whose message is not to be considered credible as well? .

Kobojunkie:
The chapter is quite clear on reason for the mentions though.

So why do you refuse that which Isaiah plainly explained all so you can cling to those delusion you hold to instead? Is Isaiah not a prophet whose message is not to be considered credible as well? .

Oga, why would Isaiah, a prophet of Israel, talking to Israelites be mentioning Ishmaelites name? Why?

Read Isaiah 60 again as well as 42 and some other Chapters in the whole of Isaiah, he was mentioning Ishmaelites names, mentioning Arabia, mentioning Tema, Kedar, Midian, Nebaioth etc.

Oga Kobojunkie, trouble your head and leave the dross you have been fed with and ask why would he be doing that?

Or the Jewish Messiah is going to come from Arabia ni?

Trouble your head. Use your head as they say.

Kobojunkie:
The chapter is quite clear on reason for the mentions though.

So why do you refuse that which Isaiah plainly explained all so you can cling to those delusion you hold to instead? Is Isaiah not a prophet whose message is not to be considered credible as well? .

It is like warning your kids in your compound but kept mentioning your neighbor's kids names? What are you trying to do or pass across?

Lukuluku69:
1. Oga, why would Isaiah, a prophet of Israel, talking to Israelites be mentioning Ishmaelites name? Why?

2. Read Isaiah 60 again as well as 42 and some other Chapters in the whole of Isaiah, he was mentioning Ishmaelites names, mentioning Arabia, mentioning Tema, Kedar, Midian, Nebaioth etc.

3. Oga Kobojunkie, trouble your head and leave the dross you have been fed with and ask why would he be doing that?

4. Or the Jewish Messiah is going to come from Arabia ni? Trouble your head. Use your head as they say.

1. Isaiah did not mention the ishmaelites in Isaiah 60. Instead he wrote of Herds of animals being transported from as far as kedar and Nebaioth back to Jerusalem in order to meet the demand for offerings for God's altar.

2. In chapter 42, the writing calls for a song to be sung to God by all in the world including those in the deserts and cities and villages of kedar.

3. I am afraid I am not fed the one who has been fed one lies here since all I continue to do is process what is written as it is written while you make attempts at injecting your delusion in between the lines.

4. God, the Lord, is the one who is also the "Jewish" Messiah you keep prattling on about. He tells you this in both Isaiah 42 and Isaiah 60. Open your eyes.

Lukuluku69:
It is like warning your kids in your compound but kept mentioning your neighbor's kids names? What are you trying to do or pass across?

It's nothing like that at all. Instead you keep seeking ways to add more to what is written because of mere mention of words you find easy to associate with Ishmaelites, conveniently ignoring the fact that the land of Canaan is itself in the Arab world, same as the other places mentioned exist in.

Kobojunkie:
It's nothing like that at all. Instead you keep seeing to add more to what is written because of mere mention of words you find easy to associate with Ishmaelites, conveniently ignoring the fact that the land of Canaan is itself in the Arab world, some place the other mentioned places exist in.

Ok.

Kobojunkie:
1. Isaiah did not mention the ishmaelites in Isaiah 60. Instead he wrote of Herds of animals being transported from as far as kedar and Nebaioth back to Jerusalem in order to meet the demand for offerings for God's altar.

2. In chapter 42, the writing calls for a song to be sung to God by all in the world including those in the deserts and cities and villages of kedar.

3. I am afraid I am not fed the one who has been fed one lies here since all I continue to do is process what is written as it is written while you make attempts at injecting your delusion in between the lines.

4. God, the Lord, is the one who is also the "Jewish" Messiah you keep prattling on about. He tells you this in both Isaiah 42 and Isaiah 60. Open your eyes.

Oga, you have been fed with lies. Centuries old lies. The begining of Isaiah made mention of a SERVANT AND MESSENGER. I guess your Lord and God is also his own servant and Messenger. It is ok. Believe your own delusion and let me believe mine.

Lukuluku69:
Oga, you have been fed with lies. Centuries old lies. The begining of Isaiah made mention of a SERVANT AND MESSENGER. I guess your Lord and God is also his own servant and Messenger. It is ok. Believe your own delusion and let me believe mine.

The Messiah is the Saviour of Israel, and the one to reign over israel as well, is He not -Isaiah 60 vs 16 - 22 ?

Open your eyes so you can carefully understand what Isaiah has infact written from the lies you hold to.

Kobojunkie:
The Messiah is the Saviour of Israel, and the one to reign over israel as well, is He not -Isaiah 60 vs 16 - 22 ?

Open your eyes so you can carefully understand what Isaiah has infact written from the lies you hold to.

Save Israel from what exactly?

1. Sin?

2. Occupation of the Land by Coloniser?

Save them from what exactly?

Oga, when I have time, I will do a detail of what Isaiah is talking about. From Chapter 1 to the last Chapter.

I am just curious. Why would Isaiah: A prophet of Israel kept mentioning Ishmaelites names in his Oracle to Israel. If you say it was their dwellings, does that mean the Jewish Messiah will rule Arabia or rule from Arabia ni? Midian, Kedar, Tema, Nebiaoth, Arabia etc. Why would he be doing that?

Lukuluku69:
▪︎.Save Israel from what exactly?
1. Sin?
2. Occupation of the Land by Coloniser? Save them from what exactly?

▪︎Oga, when I have time, I will do a detail of what Isaiah is talking about. From Chapter 1 to the last Chapter.

I am just curious. Why would Isaiah: A prophet of Israel kept mentioning Ishmaelites names in his Oracle to Israel. If you say it was their dwellings, does that mean the Jewish Messiah will rule Arabia or rule from Arabia ni? Midian, Kedar, Tema, Nebiaoth, Arabia etc. Why would he be doing that?

▪︎ You don't even know yet you are here blindly arguing that your candidate is the Messiah/Savior? .....

ROFLMAO

▪︎ From verse 1 on, Isaiah's message never changed so, try to be honest to yourself here. Rather than inject your delusion into what is written. Let the text read itself to you.

Lukuluku69:
His "Death" brought wailings on the Cross and after the Cross.

And that is how you will wail in hellfire for eternity if you continue serving the best of the deceivers, Allah the Al-Makireena that promised to throw all of you in hellfire and if you continue following the poisoned, false prophet that had his aorta torn because of atenuje and ended up dying in excruciating pain and shouting that death has agonies.

The false prophet that didn’t know where he would spend his afterlife as stated in surah 46:9

Kobojunkie:
▪︎ You don't even know yet you are here blindly arguing that your candidate is the Messiah/Savior? .....

ROFLMAO

▪︎ From verse 1 on, Isaiah's message never changed so, try to be honest to yourself here. Rather than inject your delusion into what is written. Let the text read itself to you.

We all read "our" delusions into simple Text of the scripture. I raised some question which in your blindness or should I say a deliberate attempt to hide your delusion.

Let me ask them again

1. What is the Messiah saving Israel from?

Is it SIN or LIBERATION from Colonisers who are majorly Pagans?

I also ask, why would Isaiah kept mentioning Ishmael's sons names? Why? And their dwellings? Why?

Oga, use your brain, it is free of charge nah.

Isaiah 42 clearly states " MY SERVANT AND MESSENGER. and I asked a simple question, that Jewish Messiah that you have been waiting for, is he also going to be a a Servant and Messenger to God. And taking it further, is Jesus no longer God's son and he is now His SERVANT?

advocatejare:
And that is how you will wail in hellfire for eternity if you continue serving the best of the deceivers, Allah the Al-Makireena that promised to throw all of you in hellfire and if you continue following the poisoned, false prophet that had his aorta torn because of atenuje and ended up dying in excruciating pain and shouting that death has agonies.

The false prophet that didn’t know where he would spend his afterlife as stated in surah 46:9

Nah. Your Jesus went to hellfire for Three Days to prepare a place for you. Did you forget that part of the Bible ni?

He said he will deny most of you before his Dad, you remember?

He said you will wail (which you have been doing) and gnash your teeth at the Judgement seat of his Dad, do I have to remind you of that?

Wail on Dumbo...,. You have done that all your life

Lukuluku69:
Nah. Your Jesus went to hellfire for Three Days to prepare a place for you. Did you forget that part of the Bible ni?

Show me that part in the Bible

I will show you where Muhammad said he didn’t know how he will end

Quran 46:9
Tell them: “I am not the first of the Messengers; and I do not know what shall be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner”


Sahih al-Bukhari 3929
Narrated 'Um Al-`Ala:
An Ansari woman who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet (ﷺ) that the Ansar drew lots concerning the dwelling of the Emigrants. `Uthman bin Maz'un was decided to dwell with them (i.e. Um Al-`Ala's family), `Uthman fell ill and I nursed him till he died, and we covered him with his clothes. Then the Prophet (ﷺ) came to us and I (addressing the dead body) said, "O Abu As-Sa'ib, may Allah's Mercy be on you! I bear witness that Allah has honored you." On that the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "How do you know that Allah has honored him?" I replied, "I do not know. May my father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! But who else is worthy of it (if not `Uthman)?" He said, "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me," By Allah, I will never assert the piety of anyone after him. That made me sad, and when I slept I saw in a dream a flowing stream for `Uthman bin Maz'un. I went to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and told him of it. He remarked, "That symbolizes his (good) deeds."

He said he will deny most of you before his Dad, you remember?

He will deny those who don’t do the will of God

He said you will wail (which you have been doing) and gnash your teeth at the Judgement seat of his Dad, do I have to remind you of that?

Wail on Dumbo...,. You have done that all your life

That’s the fate of those of you who reject him and follow the Arabian false prophet and Quarysh idol, Allah

Lukuluku69:
1. We all read "our" delusions into simple Text of the scripture. I raised some question which in your blindness or should I say a deliberate attempt to hide your delusion.

2. Let me ask them again
1. What is the Messiah saving Israel from?
Is it SIN or LIBERATION from Colonisers who are majorly Pagans?

3. I also ask, why would Isaiah kept mentioning Ishmael's sons names? Why? And their dwellings? Why? Oga, use your brain, it is free of charge nah.

4. Isaiah 42 clearly states " MY SERVANT AND MESSENGER. and I asked a simple question, that Jewish Messiah that you have been waiting for, is he also going to be a a Servant and Messenger to God. And taking it further, is Jesus no longer God's son and he is now His SERVANT?

1. That is actually not true. Not everyone does that. Instead it is those whose assumptions of what is written does not directly line up that are instead mostly guilty of that.

2. These questions have long been thoroughly answered by God in Scripture so if you do not know then I suggest you double up and read Scripture this time with your eyes open.

3. See my previous comments where I have throughout answered these questions by highlighting Isaiahz message in regards to the mentions.

4. Isaiah 60 vs 16 - 22 answers you best.

advocatejare:
Show me that part in the Bible

I will show you where Muhammad said he didn’t know how he will end

Quran 46:9
Tell them: “I am not the first of the Messengers; and I do not know what shall be done with me or with you. I follow only what is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner”


Sahih al-Bukhari 3929
Narrated 'Um Al-`Ala:
An Ansari woman who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet (ﷺ) that the Ansar drew lots concerning the dwelling of the Emigrants. `Uthman bin Maz'un was decided to dwell with them (i.e. Um Al-`Ala's family), `Uthman fell ill and I nursed him till he died, and we covered him with his clothes. Then the Prophet (ﷺ) came to us and I (addressing the dead body) said, "O Abu As-Sa'ib, may Allah's Mercy be on you! I bear witness that Allah has honored you." On that the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "How do you know that Allah has honored him?" I replied, "I do not know. May my father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! But who else is worthy of it (if not `Uthman)?" He said, "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me," By Allah, I will never assert the piety of anyone after him. That made me sad, and when I slept I saw in a dream a flowing stream for `Uthman bin Maz'un. I went to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and told him of it. He remarked, "That symbolizes his (good) deeds."


He will deny those who don’t do the will of God


That’s the fate of those of you who reject him and follow the Arabian false prophet and Quarysh idol, Allah

Dumbo, go read up. When you find where your Jesus went to Hellfire, mention me again by quoting the relevant verses.

Kobojunkie:
1. That is actually not true. Not everyone does that. Instead it is those whose assumptions of what is written does not directly line up that are instead mostly guilty of that.

2. These questions have long been thoroughly answered by God in Scripture so if you do not know then I suggest you double up and read Scripture this time with your eyes open.

3. See my previous comments where I have throughout answered these questions by highlighting Isaiahz message in regards to the mentions.

4. Isaiah 60 vs 16 - 22 answers you best.

The rigmarole continues. Please post Isaiah 60 Vs 16-22.

Please do and put your commentary beneath it.

Kobojunkie:
1. That is actually not true. Not everyone does that. Instead it is those whose assumptions of what is written does not directly line up that are instead mostly guilty of that.

2. These questions have long been thoroughly answered by God in Scripture so if you do not know then I suggest you double up and read Scripture this time with your eyes open.

3. See my previous comments where I have throughout answered these questions by highlighting Isaiahz message in regards to the mentions.

4. Isaiah 60 vs 16 - 22 answers you best.

The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.
-- Isaiah 60:14-17
Verse 14. "The sons of them that afflicted thee" represents the conversion of the sons of those who opposed the Arabian Prophet mission. They all came to him and accept him. They all bowed down at his feet: simply means they came to him and beg his forgiveness and he accepted them all.

Verse 15. This needs a bit of elaboration. You see before Prophet Muhammad time in Arabia, the Arabian are generally regard has brutes, sub-humans. No Nation deemed them worthy to colonize. Their Land is but a barren wasteland. So, the Super Powers then overlooked them. The Persians, Romans, Greeks passed them by. But when Islam was preached among these brutes, they became Light bearers in spiritual, educational etc matter. The Arabs supplanted the Persians, Romans and many other ancients powers.

Verse 16. Within a few years after Islam was preached many surrounding Lands Rulers came into the fold and regularly send gifts to the Prophet as well as to the City of Mecca.

Verse 17. From bass, to gold, from iron to silver simply means from a dross people God will bring out excellent beings. And this was exactly the condition of the Arabs before and after Islam.