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Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by TopeQs: 3:56am On Jul 13, 2022 |
BlackManta: Omoh, you sabi review movie abeg... Phase 4 truly isn't the best, looked like marvel got to a high point and started declining... Wanda vision was nice, but their theater releases have been competition to be more shitty than the last, from black widow to MoM... None of them is exceptional. I hope black panther 2 and Ant-Man 3 is better, I love those. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by BlackManta(m): 5:20am On Jul 13, 2022 |
[quote author=JackBizzle post=114679381] As for Wanda in Wandavision. You can see that Wanda is already mad. Someone that possessed a whole town and would have let the people die in an illusion, if not for outside interference. And how did WandaVision end Did you watch the show from beginning to end Wanda's madness in WandaVision did not get to the level of killing dozens of innocent people. WandaVision is about Wanda going through the five stages of grief and she's tried to bury that grief and hide it instead of accepting it and dealing with it like a normal person should. Wanda in WandaVision is far more relatable than the nonsense they fed us in MoM. Go back and watch the finale of WandaVision. She let go of vision and her kids in that finale and moved on. Fast forward to MoM and MCU ridiculously undid everything they achieved with Wanda in WandaVision. She started pursuing her kids, same kids that she already let go in WandaVision finale, kids that belong to another woman.....How does this make sense to you What is the point of WandaVision.... MoM criminally undermined that show to the point that you start to wonder why they made that show in the first place Wanda's character journey wasted just like that. How is it character assassination when Wanda is already mad before the dark hold? The dark hold corrupts. It corrupted a version of Doctor strange. The Darkhold excuse makes this movie much worse. Darkhold corrupts...bla bla bla I didn't see Darkhold corrupt anybody in this movie. They only told us that to make up for the lazy writing. How exactly does the Darkhold corrupt They didn't show us. They fed us exposition and you expect me to swallow the hook, line and sinker. Does the book have a mind of its own Does it control the reader or vice versa Does the book fill your head with evil thoughts Does the book tell you what to do Did the book control Wanda to kill dozens of people or did she do that willingly Does the Darkhold influence its reader to use it, or can the reader use it for his own needs willingly When you say Darkhold corrupts...these are the questions you must answer and you answer them and make things clear by showing it in your movie not dumping it inside exposition. Based on what I saw in the movie, Darkhold is just a normal magic book with immense power. The damn thing does not have a mind of its own and it will not tell you how to use it or what to use it for or who to kill. Wanda in this movie is just a twisted and monstrous fvck. Hold her responsible for her actions and stop blaming the book. Blaming Darkhold is like blaming alcohol for all the accidents that happen on the road instead holding drunk drivers accountable. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 6:13am On Jul 13, 2022 |
BlackManta:Man watched Wanda go on a murderous spree. Saw a universe that collapsed due to its Dr Strange using the Darkhold but wants a PowerPoint presentation on the Darkhold's corruption. If the Darkhold wasn't a factor to Wanda's villainy, why did she destroy it at the end of the movie? Why didn't she leave it for a good person to make proper use of it? Why was Wong bothered that Strange used it and why did Wanda call Strange a hypocrite for using the Darkhold? 4 Likes |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by JackBizzle: 7:44am On Jul 13, 2022 |
BlackManta: It seems that you didn't even read what I wrote and just went on your rant against Wanda. Wanda let go of her kids because she was forced to. Secondly, the kids were not real in Wandavision or her universe. Doctor strange MOM is a different movie. Wanda realised that she could get real kids from another universe. Furthermore, death is better than being brain dead for the rest of your life. Someone that can leave you brainwashed and bewitched for the rest of your life can kill you. Did you not consider that? Wanda killing people is character progression and not character assassination. Her madness progressed just like how a disease left untreated progresses. The dark hold made things even worse. BlackManta: The kids in Wandavision were not real. In Dr Strange MOM, they were real. They were real in another universe. BlackManta: Character progression. You also seem to forget that Dr Strange is a movie on its own. Madness left untreated gets worse. BlackManta: The dark hold already corrupted a Dr Strange in another universe. The book literally has a mind of its own. It gives the minds eye- the third eye. BlackManta:You are grasping at straws here. 4 Likes |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by JackBizzle: 7:45am On Jul 13, 2022 |
TopeQs: Spiderman no way home nko? |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by JackBizzle: 8:06am On Jul 13, 2022 |
SOZINN: 1. Dr Strange MOM graphics is better than that of Shang Chi. MOM's graphics are far above average. The visuals were the selling point of the movie. Let's not tell lies here. 2. Dr Strange MOM is a better paced movie. The characters needed little introduction as they have the benefit of past marvel movies to build them up. Doctor strange was a consistent comedy horror with action throughout. 3. Wanda was more of a threat (as compared to Wenwu). She had already killed a version of doctor strange in another universe in the beginning. Wanda was capable of destruction. She had the means and purpose for it. 4. Lies. People didn't know what to expect from Shang Chi. What percentage of people even read the boring comic? It just came out good. 5. Wanda could kill in any universe while dream walking. She even killed a version of doctor strange without stress. 6. I didn't say that Shang Chi has more plot holes. I said that the central 0lot of Shang Chi is a plot hole. The movie itself is a plot hole. Why would shang Chi's mother leave the medallions with her small children. The medallions that are keys to holding the gate that is keeping the deadliest evil in place. Also why did wen we wait till the children became adults to take the medallions? Or even the spirits wait to whisper to Wenwu? 3 Likes |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by phr0nesis(m): 8:21am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Everyone has been ranting about Marvel phase four being average or subpar; and I can't really recall any phase being excellent. You all are just judging it based on the standards kept by Infinity War and Endgame. Phase One Iron man - Good Incredible Hulk - Average Iron Man 2 - Average Thor - Average Captain America - Average Avengers - Excellent Phase Two Iron Man 2 - Average Thor 2 - Average Captain America 2 - Good Guardians of the Galaxy - Average Avengers 2 - Average Ant Man - Average Phase Three Captain America 3 - Average Doctor Strange - Average Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - Average Spiderman Homecoming - Average Thor 3 - Average Black Panther - Good Avengers 3 - Excellent Ant Man 2 - Average Captain Marvel - Average Avengers 4 - Good Spiderman 2 - Average |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Karleb(m): 8:27am On Jul 13, 2022 |
phr0nesis: What are you rating?. 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by JackBizzle: 8:34am On Jul 13, 2022 |
phr0nesis: While I agree with your overall sentiment, my nigga, did you just call Avengers 2 "average"? The hubris of some people sha. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Karleb(m): 8:37am On Jul 13, 2022 |
JackBizzle: The guy rating is shitty. 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by phr0nesis(m): 8:41am On Jul 13, 2022 |
JackBizzle:I don't expect everyone to agree with all my ratings. I'm suppose to even give you a pack of your favorite drink for disagreeing with just one |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by mirinder: 9:49am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Can you imagine Dr Strange and Wong enters the santom sanctorum in New York from the Kamar taj in asia using their sling ring. Just like that. They don't need to book any flight ticket. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 10:00am On Jul 13, 2022 |
DieRich5: Lmao.... This meme is GOATED. Prepping to STEAL It. 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by BlackManta(m): 11:16am On Jul 13, 2022 |
[quote author=JackBizzle post=114683198] It seems that you didn't even read what I wrote and just went on your rant against Wanda. Lies from the pit of hell She wasn't forced to let go of her kids and vision. She did so willingly. She beat those sword guys and Agatha. There was no one left to stop her and yet she did the right thing. She wasn't forced to let go. Unless you want to classify Monica Rambeu's persuasive talk as 'forcing'. The kids in Wandavision were not real. In Dr Strange MOM, they were real. They were real in another universe. Those kids belong to another woman, to another Wanda. Therefore they are not her real kids....simple and short. Character progression. Explain how the Darkhold has a mind of its own. A book commanded Wanda to get up and start killing people, right? Because that is not what the movie showed us. Darkhold corrupts is just lazy writing.....You must show exactly how it does that. It's not by dumping exposition. Fvcking show it if you want to me to believe it. Darkhold excuse is just you trying to absolve Wanda of any responsibility. Get your tongue out of Wanda's ass. 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by BlackManta(m): 11:38am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Kaycee7: HOW EXACTLY DOES THE DARKHOLD CORRUPT? Seriously, how? There's no reason for it to do that. It serves no purpose for the book specifically. There are other examples of items corrupting wielders but those work because they serve a purpose. The One Ring has Sauron's power tied to it. It makes sense that he would make it so that anyone who had the ring would be tempted by its power and wouldn't want to destroy it thus Sauron can still survive if he "dies". Some of Voldemort's horcruxes have this function. The necklace makes the wielder more unstable thus affecting their decision making which could make it easier for Voldy to retrieve it when he finds out it's missing. The diary allows him to possess the wielder and manipulate them into his bidding at least to some extent. Ignoring the horrible execution in Harry Potter, the concept is still understandable. In both these cases, the corrupting artifacts are borderline indestructible with very few things being able to destroy them. Obviously there are things that corrupt people in fiction for no particular reason. Like the Goblin Serum or the Lizard Serum in Spider-Man and TASM respectively. But these make sense. They are dangerous chemicals that were injected into the creator out of desperation and injecting shit that seriously alters your biology can definitely do shit to your brain. It's not a living thing like the Venom Symbiote which in some versions, is either a feral bloodthirsty animal (Ultimate Comics), an evil angry and hateful monster (90s TAS, 2017, Spectacular Spider-Man),or somewhere in somewhere in between (SM3). None of this applies to the Darkhold. It's not trying to bring back its creator or keep him from dying. It's not a thing that coincidentally corrupts you. It's not an actual living thing. The creator placed that effect on the Darkhold intentionally for no reason at all only for the sake of the plot. Honestly, the movie's not actually clear on what it does to the user. Seemed more like a general temptation thing to me and in fact the movie just says "it takes a heavy toll". Wanda seems to have actively and intentionally sought to use the book and there's absolutely no clear indication she got drawn to it by any corrupting force. Side Note: Darkhold excuse completely exempts Agatha from any wrongdoing even from the writers' pov |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 12:31pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
BlackManta:The user gradually loses their humanity the more they use it, till they eventually don't even care about the costs anymore. Earth-616 Strange used it only once and got a third eye. What do the Strange that destroyed his universe and Wanda have in common? They were both consumed with grief. And once they got their hands on the Darkhold, they both ended up wreaking destruction on massive scales. The lore does a good enough job establishing the Darkhold as a force of evil. You're just basically asking to be spoonfed the workings of a plot device in chunky bits with a sippy cup, at this point. 5 Likes |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by jikins(m): 1:22pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
BlackManta: You are just grasping at straws. In the movie Wanda ask Strange if he knew the darkhold. He said yes it's the book of the damned and it corrupts everything and everyone that it touches. And you are here saying the movie wasn't clear on what it does to the user SMH. Book that was transcribed from the dark magic of the first demon Chthon. Yet it baffles you as to how it can corrupt it's wielder. Even the series Agents of shield don't know if it's still cannon with MCU, but the darkhold was there in one of its season and it corrupted those who wielded it there too. 4 Likes |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by BankyGee(m): 1:41pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Your favorite actors and their childhood pictures 1 Like
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Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 1:42pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Kaycee7:his analogy on alcohol still holds water even more with your explanation... Cos as you said, she did destroy it...so it definitely wasn't controlling her...at best she was tempted and not controlled Also how exactly did she affect all the universes at once by destroying the book across all universes...? |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 1:47pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
BlackManta:it's clearly poor writing ... That's why it's a "popcorn movie" It's viewers are expected to enjoy without thinking about it... Nothing makes sense... nothing is explained to make sense 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 1:48pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
BankyGee:lmao 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 1:48pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Baddestguyp:Corrupted, not controlled. Don't remember either me or anyone else saying the Darkhold was controlling her. At least, not directly. His analogy on alcohol makes zero sense because the Darkhold is not something to even be used moderately. You can't use the Darkhold responsibly. If Earth-616 had continued to use the Darkhold, he would have ended up wreaking untold havoc eventually. Rephrase your question please. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 1:48pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Kaycee7:how was Wanda able to destroy all versions of the Darkhold...even those that exist in all the different universes |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 1:50pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Baddestguyp:If you want to watch MCU movies as popcorn flicks, that's completely OK. But deliberately being obtuse on well-established plot points just to claim the movies don't make sense is not a good look. There's literally no difference between you and someone who claims AoT isn't a good story because "it's just a cartoon". 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 1:51pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Baddestguyp:Same way she was able to send demons after America Chavez across different universes. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 2:13pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Kaycee7:this is no explanation... Destroying a book in 100s of universes all at once? |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 2:15pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Kaycee7:I'm actually talking about that particular movie and the belief of the writers... They assumed people won't care if anything makes sense or not and just do what they want... But because I care if it makes sense that's why I was listing issues with the movie Of course you had to bring AOT cos you know my special feeling for the show |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 2:19pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Baddestguyp:She can summon creatures in different universes. Why is destroying a book in different universes such a big deal? This is desperate levels of nitpicking |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Katcall: 2:21pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Kaycee7:On wikipedia, it says american chavez posesses superhuman speed and durability. But in MoM, i saw an helpless and hapless chavez who could barely run aside porting from one universe to the other under extreme duress. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 2:21pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Kaycee7:saying she can destroy a book in different universes all at once is basically saying she can instantly kill a person across all universes at once |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Baddestguyp(m): 2:22pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Katcall:well she did beat up Wanda far more than Dr Strange did |
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