₦airaland Forum

Raychee:
1.There is nothing like honesty here because there wasn't any dishonesty in the first place. If they were asked if they had an ivf and deny, that is dishonesty.

2..Someone chooses not to share a private part of their life and people are so entitled to that information.

3. I guess it's everything you do in your life that you share all the details with the public. Tueh! If you want information about any medical procedure, go to the hospital and stop feeling entitled to information about people's lives.

1. So you first need to be asked if you used IVF before you reveal that IVF is how you obtained your baby. Interesting!

2. IVF is private but the barreness of the couple before the supposed miracle isn't private and the fact that the couple remains barren even after the procedure is private too?

3.

Jovialjune1:
Mind the business that pays you.

That happens to be exactly what I am doing and you should too.

Kobojunkie:
That happens to be exactly what I am doing and you should too.

Oh but you don't mind your business, you are always up on people's faces with your unnecessary counter arguments just to prove a baseless point.

Jovialjune1:
Oh but you don't mind your business, you are always up on people's faces with your unnecessary counter arguments just to prove a baseless point.

If you don't have anything tangible to add to the topic, I suggest you pack it in and move on at this point. Nairaland is not a place to preach the nonsense you are attempting to there.

Kobojunkie:
1. No be oyinbo dem bring iVF come Nigeria? No be their testimonials convince our women say IVF na option?
2. The scientists came knocking at your doors without evidence and testimonials from those who have already tried and tested IVF as proof that it works?

3. You can always continue to run from me like you always do. I don't bite though.

See this one run from you say wetin happen

Just cos I choose to hype you small in that other thread, e don enter your head abi? You think you're the only one that can argue just for the fun of it?

Kobo sho ara e.

Kobojunkie:
If you don't have anything tangible to add to the topic, I suggest you pack it in and move on at this point. Nairaland is not a place to preach the nonsense you are attempting to there.

So in your mind you have contributed tangibly abi? Lmao

Madam minister of information, do you own nairaland? Abi what makes you think you can shoo someone away from a thread or the forum?

I have preached what I want to preach even if it's B.S to you, so it's either you accept it, or move the fvck on by not quoting me again.

Kobojunkie:
while they continue to lie?

If we can't be honest as a society, what are we?

Hello kobojunkie. How's the week been?

FriendsAndFans:
Hello kobojunkie. How's the week been?

Awesome!

Kobojunkie:
Awesome!

I see your posts in the religion section checked your profile and saw 2007. That's huge

FriendsAndFans:
I see your posts in the religion section checked your profile and saw 2007. That's huge

I took a long hiatus between 2012 and 2020, so I haven't been on Nairaland straight through all that time.

Tamilore11:
U re too stupid. And u are a full grown adult o? For ur mind, u re talking with sense. Dat means many celebs in America dat even prefer surrogacy should see theirselves as being dishonest. Who cares Is it not their flesh n blood Wat is dishonest dat she carried her own child for 9 months? How does she owe any of you this dumb brains any explanations?? Ppl dat give birth tru CS, did they tell the world?? Even the ones that give birth tru vagina, is it not still doctors dat helped them? Did they praise the doctors during testimony? Why dem no born for house? As I said earlier, ur thinking is extremely very low. I wonder the empty brains u will pass to ur kids .

I still don't know how my harmless post warranted such an idiotic response of yours.

I suggest you see a psychiatrist because you are obviously not mentally okay.

If anything at all, people with IVF babies have more to thank God for.
There are so many risks associated with IVF pregnancies.
Then add to it the additional risks, as seen in every usual pregnancy.
Who else should be most grateful for that child than the parents? And if they believe in God, marvellous for them.
There's only so much Drs can do.
IVF success rate is only about 50% when talking of live births, and the rate goes lower as the incubator/mother gets older.
Some get pregnant but it's an ectopic instead(that can terminate their lives).
Some lose the IVF pregnancies so many times that they just give up on life.
While pregnancy is a process of bringing forth new life, you're also opening yourself up for possible death too.
Only those couples know what their eyes saw before they finally had that live baby/babies.
And you say they shouldn't find succour in their faith and thank God?
Una no well o.
Even the fertility specialists doing the procedure pray that the fertlized eggs should take

Tamilore11:
Read the post. He sed those who got pregnant tru IVF are weaklings and still barren.just imagine. He sed they should hide in shame. So wat are u supporting?

You have to understand some people's mindset, especially those who have nothing to celebrate in their lives.
When they see people who are wealthy, have a good family and seem to have everything but no child, it makes them feel better in their own lives.
At least, they have children even though they have nothing else to contribute to the world.
That's the only way they can feel better than that rich, nice family with everything but no child.
Now that rich family has found a way to procreate and pass on their successful genes.
They are not only rich & happy but their lives have now been further enriched with the blessings of children (maybe even twins or triplets that many covet)
How will this poor man now feel he's better than that family that seems to have everything?

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Tonero5200:
So many trends of women and men delivering twin's, quadruplets after so many years of barrenness and impotency don't freak me. Instead it's makes me angry to the core.. because they are still barren and weakling men. Since they did ivf why not hide it within themselves, instead they come out online on facebook, nairaland to disturb the public thanking God just to feel among, I don't know if they forget that sperm and egg were mixed together and put in a freezer for some time.. before it was fixed back into the body.

Abomination.

Here is were it's gets annoying.........

instead of giving the professional doctors accolades.

They will hide everything... do like say they didn't do nothing..(spend millions)

Then proceed in Calling the name of the Lord in vain... when we all know say nor be him do am...



The question I keep wondering are these people not ashamed of themselves? Why come online to disgrace yourself the more, knowing that you didn't give birth the natural way.


This has become a numb that need to be stopped in nigeria, infact once I see a post about a woman been barren for 20 years all of a sudden give birth to twins....it's either it's staged or that is an artificial offspring.. So hide yourself in peace codedly
I don't care.


Another annoying thing Is they are always greedy... they always go for twins or quadruplets at once.
Black man mentality, and still they use it disturb people online.

Seun
Lalasticlala

God be glorified cause some take that process and still fail.

OP,even if one of the rights you are entitled to is to open your mouth and spit trash, I equally feel you should fight for the right to be educated because you need it most!!!!! Very important!!!

Iceyy:
Nawa o
People are really angry and frustrated in this country

Big time ooo, and he is not even chanelling the anger to the right people but to people who found a means to get what they needed for a long period of time which in no way has affected him.

eyinjuege:
If anything at all, people with IVF babies have more to thank God for.
There are so many risks associated with IVF pregnancies.
Then add to it the additional risks, as seen in every usual pregnancy.
Who else should be most grateful for that child than the parents? And if they believe in God, marvellous for them.
There's only so much Drs can do.
IVF success rate is only about 50% when talking of live births, and the rate goes lower as the incubator/mother gets older.
Some get pregnant but it's an ectopic instead(that can terminate their lives).
Some lose the IVF pregnancies so many times that they just give up on life.
While pregnancy is a process of bringing forth new life, you're also opening yourself up for possible death too.
Only those couples know what their eyes saw before they finally had that live baby/babies.
And you say they shouldn't find succour in their faith and thank God?
Una no well o.
Even the fertility specialists doing the procedure pray that the fertlized eggs should take

I don’t understand how a lot of people are angry on this thread.

The guy didn't say they shouldn't thank God but he is saying they should at least mention that they did IVF and maybe credit their doctor.


When people undergo CS, they tell us how God made it successful but when it's IVF, they keep mum.

Haba, this is fraud now. Besides, there are a lot of people in their position who would think God answered their prayers without IVF.

Those people would be praying without working (IVF), which is dead according to the Bible.

Karleb:
I don’t understand how a lot of people are angry on this thread.

The guy didn't say they shouldn't thank God but he is saying they should at least mention that they did IVF and maybe credit their doctor.


When people undergo CS, they tell us how God made it successful but when it's IVF, they keep mum.

Haba, this is fraud now. Besides, there are a lot of people in their position who would think God answered their prayers without IVF.

Those people would be praying without working (IVF), which is dead according to the Bible.

The sensible thing for anyone struggling to get pregnant is to see a Dr, and you will eventually be directed to Fertility services.
Fertility services are not a secret service. It's not hidden anywhere.
Information about this is available everywhere.
Infact sexual health clinics are more hidden than Fertility clinics.
I don't owe you my medical history. Nobody owes anybody that
Same way I don't owe you the public the source of my income or how much I made in a legitimate deal.
These are really personal information most people do not simply wish to share

Jovialjune1:
How is it your business if they do not want to be vulnerable or truthful? And how exactly is it BS if they choose not to tell people every little details?

God gave them twins, not IVF

God gave them their source of income, not the vagina (be like say your vagina na source of income for you )

God cured their HIV

God cured cancer

**Whoever anyone chooses to praise for their miracles and testimonies shouldn't be your headache and concern, if you cannot rejoice with them cos it hurts you so much, mind the business that pays you, very simple.

If God can do all of this, ambulances will be driving people to churches and not hospitals.

Nonsense!

1Sharon:
If God can do all of this, ambulances will be driving people to churches and not hospitals.

Nonsense!

God can do all that, even God says "work and pray" so if you think ambulances don't have their usefulness and doesn't go along with believing in God, that's your business, people that believe in God isn't your life's problem

Nonsense.

Jovialjune1:
God can do all that, ever God says "work and pray" so if you think ambulances don't have their usefulness and doesn't go along with believing in God, that's your business, people that believe in God isn't your life's problem

Nonsense.

And it also says ask and you shall receive with faith as small as a mustard seed.

But in reality what do you get?

You're saying what you're programmed to say, but deep down you know God cannot.

As I said before hospitals will not exist, if God.can do all of that.

The bible is a lie and God doesn't exist or doesn't care.

The ppl who claim to be cured from cancer, HIV and SS are all liars.

Let us see an amputee being cured then we can talk.

1Sharon:
And it also says ask and you shall receive with faith as small as a mustard seed.

But in reality is this the case?

You're saying what you're programmed to say, but deep down you know God cannot.

As I said before hospitals will not exist, if God.can do all of that.

The bible is a lie and God doesn't exist or doesn't care.

It will be good for you atheists to know that your opinion on religion or Christianity does not count or matter, our belief is not your business or problem, face your life the way it pleases you, nobody cares, we don't care.

Jovialjune1:
It will be good for you atheists to know that your opinion on religion or Christianity does not count or matter, our belief is not your business or problem, face your life the way it pleases you, nobody cares, we don't care.

Yet you came for me, I didn't come for you.

If you didn't care, why didn't you jump past.my comment?

Your God got told and now you're crying

1Sharon:
Yet you came for me, I didn't come for you.

If you didn't care, why didn't you jump past.my comment?

Your God got told and now you're crying

Crying where? Lmao can you see my face through your phone

All this deflection won't change the fact that what we believe in, isn't your life's problem, so therefore, face the business that pays you.

Jovialjune1:
Crying where? Lmao can you see my face through your phone

All this deflection won't change the fact that what we believe in, isn't your life's problem, so therefore, face the business that pays you.

Deflection? You've got some audacity.

Coming from someone that created a strawman out of all my points.


Answer me, God heals Hiv, cancer, SS, syphilis, madness but he won't heal amputees why is that?

Acidosis to the world
Been a while big brother
May peace be upon all these small kids on Nairaland.
Nairaland is becoming more watery

Acidosis:
So when you try to conceive naturally for 6 months and you fail to get a positive result, do you turn around to thank your husband's sperm on social media when you eventually conceive after 8 months of trying?

If it is compulsory to appreciate someone, make sure you also thank the doctors that prescribed Zinc and the other supplements that helped your fertility process. Make sure you also appreciate the fruit seller on social media. Abi you did not take fruit and zinc??

1Sharon:
Deflection? You've got some audacity.

Coming from someone that created a strawman out of all my points.


Answer me, God heals Hiv, cancer, SS, syphilis, madness but he won't heal amputees why is that?

Audacity? You've got guts to say that to me

But keep ranting, when you're done you will face your life's problem las las.

Jovialjune1:
Audacity? You've got guts to say that to me

But keep ranting, when you're done you will face your life's problem las las.

Eya, you don tire ni?

People opt for IVf because prayer doesn't work. They prayed for a.child and nothing happened.

ireneidiva:
I hope both of you know that IVF fails? Most people did a lot before the baby came. So what is wrong in giving glory to God if yours worked?

Both of who? I only explained what he implied oh.

Teachers should pay alot of attention to reading Comprehension in the early stages of children's education, so that unnecessary misconstrue of opinions will be curbed.

Many Nigerians are truly frustrated. See how people are getting mad at how someone else's should to live their lives.

OP, because you life is miserable, you detest seeing people happy. Tufikwa!

Freelane33:
Acidosis to the world
Been a while big brother
May peace be upon all these small kids on Nairaland.
Nairaland is becoming more watery

I greet you, my brother