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kkins25:
Nope. Afterall, The jews never knew. Hence Jesus comment on the law of adultery when he said, "he who looks at a woman and lists over her...."
If you knew God's standard, the path to heaven would be a vast and obvious road.. *winks*.

The path to Heaven was made obvious by Jesus Christ, the one who is God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God over 2000 years ago.

It is about 100 commandments wide - and those who love Him are those who obey His commandments - the standard that is Heaven.

Kobojunkie:
Again, the issue of whether the book is credible or nor is all yours and not mine.

You already made your position clear. You don't believe the book is credible

tctrills:
You already made your position clear. You don't believe the book is credible

It was never an issue for me to begin with.

Kobojunkie:
It was never an issue for me to begin with.

It was always an issue when you quote from a book that you claim has falsehood.

tctrills:
It was always an issue when you quote from a book that you claim has falsehood.

I don't claim it has falsehoods, I know, expect, and accept that it does, this from its very beginning.

Kobojunkie:
I don't claim it has falsehoods, I know, expect, and accept that it does, this from its very beginning.

At least, I know you better. Our future debates would be more interesting

tctrills:
At least, I know you better. Our future debates would be more interesting

LOL ...

I point out an error in scripture pretty much each time we debate, and you loose your hinges almost every time. This isn't about me but about you... thought you would have realized that by now.

tctrills:
At least, I know you better. Our future debates would be more interesting

it isn't me you should know better. Instead, go back through the issues I pointed out in scripture so you realize that scripture is not this Holy inerrant fantasy you have been holding onto.

Credibility and all that Jargon make no sense when you are told that Only the Word of God is Truth, everlasting.

Kobojunkie:
LOL ...

I point out an error in scripture pretty much each time we debate, and you loose your hinges almost every time. This isn't about me but about you... thought you would have realized that by now.

This is the first time i noticed it. And I lost nothing, I only found it hypocritical

tctrills:
This is the first time i noticed it. And I lost nothing, I only found it hypocritical

The first time you noticed indeed. LOL.....

Go back and review the errors that I pointed out to you. And then decide whether you will give up on God because of them of not.

Kobojunkie:
it isn't me you should know better. Instead, go back through the issues I pointed out in scripture so you realize that scripture is not this Holy inerrant fantasy you have been holding onto.

my point is you have no way of telling what is right or wrong. Infact the entire scripture could be wrong for all you know. To say John is right and Matthew is wrong makes you a terrible judge. You were not born when those records were written

Kobojunkie:
The first time you noticed indeed. LOL.....

Go back and review the errors that I pointed out to you. And then decide whether you will give up on God because of them of not.

Give up on God because of your hypocrisy. It's not worth it na

tctrills:
my point is you have no way of telling what is right or wrong. Infact the entire scripture could be wrong for all you know. To say John is right and Matthew is wrong makes you a terrible judge. You were not born when those records were written

I don't exist in the confused state that you do about these things so stop pretending your confusion is mine.

I didn't say John is right. Instead I said God and Jesus Christ are Truth meaning John's account which conforms to that said by God and Jesus is more correct.

Go back through the errors I clearly pointed out exist in scripture and let us know if you will blindly continue to follow them or abandon God entirely cause the book contains errors.

Kobojunkie:
I don't exist in the confused state that you do about these things so stop pretending your confusion is mine.

I didn't say John is right. Instead I said God and Jesus Christ are Truth meaning John's account which conforms to that said by God and Jesus is more correct.

Go back through the errors I clearly pointed out exist in scripture and let us know if you will blindly continue to follow them or abandon God entirely cause the book contains errors.

You did not point out any error. You claimed Matthew and the rest were wrong but John right. But you have no evidence. Even Jesus teaches that in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses would every truth be established. 3 books saying the same thing are not wrong.

tctrills:
Give up on God because of your hypocrisy. It's not worth it na

My hypocrisy?

You do know that there is no way the accounts of all of the gospel writers can be considered without error in this? I mean it is obvious that there are mistakes in the reporting of the events. Are you going to play the path of ignorance in this like you probably have to with so many of the other errors in scripture?

Kobojunkie:
My hypocrisy?

You do know that there is no way the accounts of all of the gospel writers can be considered without error in this? I mean it is obvious that there are mistakes in the reporting of the events. Are you going to play the path of ignorance in this like you probably have to with so many of the other errors in scripture?

My point is, if there are mistakes like you claim you would need to provide another source of Christian revelation. That is the only way using the bible to resolve belief issues can be relevant

tctrills:
You did not point out any error. You claimed Matthew and the rest were wrong but John right. But you have no evidence. Even Jesus teaches that in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses would every truth be established. 3 books saying the same thing are not wrong.

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

tctrills:
My point is, if there are mistakes like you claim you would need to provide another source of Christian revelation. That is the only way using the bible to resolve belief issues can be relevant

According to whose law or rule? Yours or God's?

Here are simple questions for you to consider
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1. It is sin against God to not eat Passover on Passover day. Matthew, Mark, and Luke's accounts have Jesus Christ eating Passover on a day that God had not chosen for it meaning Jesus Christ, God's Passover Lamb, sinned against God. Is this what you would have us believe instead?

2. Jesus Christ said He would be arrested on Passover, but Matthew, Mark, and Luke's accounts all have it that He was arrested the day after the day He prophesied it would happen, so did Jesus Christ lie?

3. Jesus Christ said He would be in the grave for 3 days, but the accounts by Matthew, Mark, and Luke, as a result of what seems an error, have Him in the grave for just 2 days, so did Jesus Christ lie?

Kobojunkie:
According to whose law or rule? Yours or God's?

Here are simple questions for you to consider
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1. It is sin against God to not eat Passover on Passover day. Matthew, Mark, and Luke's accounts have Jesus Christ eating Passover on a day that God had not chosen for it meaning Jesus Christ, God's Passover Lamb, sinned against God. Is this what you would have us believe instead?

2. Jesus Christ said He would be arrested on Passover, but Matthew, Mark, and Luke's accounts all have it that He was arrested the day after the day He prophesied it would happen, so did Jesus Christ lie?

3. Jesus Christ said He would be in the grave for 3 days, but the accounts by Matthew, Mark, and Luke, as a result of what seems an error, have Him in the grave for just 2 days, so did Jesus Christ lie?

You can't know what is a sin to God by reading the bible, what if that passage is wrong?

tctrills:
You can't know what is a sin to God by reading the bible, what if that passage is wrong?

How did Abraham know what was a sin to God without reading your bible which came out thousands of years after his death?

How did Moses learn what was a sin against God, while He spent 40 years in the deserts, even before God commanded Him to begin writing down His Law?
Here are simple questions for you to consider
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1. It is sin against God to not eat Passover on Passover day. Matthew, Mark, and Luke's accounts have Jesus Christ eating Passover on a day that God had not chosen for it meaning Jesus Christ, God's Passover Lamb, sinned against God. Is this what you would have us believe instead?

2. Jesus Christ said He would be arrested on Passover, but Matthew, Mark, and Luke's accounts all have it that He was arrested the day after the day He prophesied it would happen, so did Jesus Christ lie?

3. Jesus Christ said He would be in the grave for 3 days, but the accounts by Matthew, Mark, and Luke, as a result of what seems an error, have Him in the grave for just 2 days, so did Jesus Christ lie?

Kobojunkie:

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Jesus never said the law occurs when there is no specified truth. In fact he said the opposite. From the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses would All Truth be established.
Note emphasis on all truth.

Kobojunkie:
How did Abraham know what was a sin to God without reading your bible which came out thousands of years after his death?

How did Moses learn what was a sin against God, while He spent 40 years in the deserts, even before God commanded Him to begin writing down His Law?

It the bible could be wrong, then it's possible that Abraham and Moses never existed.

tctrills:
Jesus never said the law occurs when there is no specified truth. In fact he said the opposite. From the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses would All Truth be established.
Note emphasis on all truth.

That law is meant to be used in establishing truth in a situation, is it not? If Truth already exists in a situation, would there be any need to establish a truth about that same situation?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
That law is meant to be used in establishing truth in a situation, is it not? If Truth already exists in a situation, would there be any need to establish a truth about that same situation?

Please read the verse, it says all truth no conditions given

tctrills:
It the bible could be wrong, then it's possible that Abraham and Moses never existed.

Well, then if God also doesn't exist, what are you here arguing about?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

tctrills:
Please read the verse, it says all truth no conditions given

What verse?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
Well, then if God also doesn't exist, what are you here arguing about?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

---

The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

You believe God doesn't exist? God existed before the bible or do you doubt that. What if Moses was wrong in Leviticus?

Kobojunkie:
What verse?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

---

The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

what if both accounts are wrong or you never thought of that?

tctrills:
You believe God doesn't exist? God existed before the bible or do you doubt that. What if Moses was wrong in Leviticus?

Recall what I said of the Word of God being everlastingly guaranteed to be Truth? Well... yeah.. back to the topic

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

---

The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

tctrills:
what if both accounts are wrong or you never thought of that?

Both accounts of what are wrong?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

---

The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
Both accounts of what are wrong?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

---

The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

The Passover meal

Kobojunkie:
Recall what I said of the Word of God being everlastingly guaranteed to be Truth? Well... yeah.. back to the topic

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

You did the bible is not the word of God