tctrills:
You did the bible is not the word of God

Nowhere in all of scripture, including extrabiblical writings, is it ever suggested that your Bible is the word of God. That lie was fed to you by false teachers and false prophets.

Instead, what is written in Scripture is instead that Jesus Christ is the very Word out of God's own mouth which you are meant to live by. Do you know what it means to live by the Word out of God's Mouth? It means it should be the basis for Truth in your life - Axioms all other Truths should be founded upon in your life.

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
Nowhere in all of scripture, including extrabiblical writings, is it ever suggested that your Bible is the word of God. That lie was fed to you by false teachers and false prophets.

Instead, what is written in Scripture is instead that Jesus Christ is the very Word out of God's own mouth which you are meant to live by. Do you know what it means to live by the Word out of God's Mouth? It means it should be the basis for Truth in your life - Axioms all other Truths should be founded upon in your life.

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

So what if the verses you are qouting are not the word of God?

tctrills:
The Passover meal

I don't follow! You are asking me what if God's Law is wrong on Passover - Exodus 12 and Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 - and Jesus Christ also is wrong about being arrested on Passover day?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

tctrills:
So what if the verses you are qouting are not the word of God?

Which verses are you referring to?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
I don't follow! You are asking me what if God's Law is wrong on Passover - Exodus 12 and Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 - and Jesus Christ also is wrong about being arrested on Passover day?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

No, I am asking what if it wasn't God's law in the first place?

Kobojunkie:
Which verses are you referring to?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

All the verses above.

Kobojunkie:
Which verses are you referring to?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Do you believe the Quran to be the word of God? Mohammed says it's God's word dictated to him by an angel.

tctrills:
No, I am asking what if it wasn't God's law in the first place?

Recall I said God meant for us to live by every Word out of the Mouth of God?

1. The Lord said to Moses,
2 “Tell the Israelites: You will announce the Lord’s chosen festivals as holy meetings. These are my special festivals.
3 “Work for six days, but the seventh day, the Sabbath, will be a special day of rest, a holy meeting. You must not do any work. It is a day of rest to honor the Lord in all your homes.
4 “These are the Lord’s chosen festivals. You will announce the holy meetings at the times chosen for them.
5 The Lord’s Passover is on the 14th day of the first month[a] just before dark.
6 “The Lord’s Festival of Unleavened Bread is on the 15th day of the same month. You will eat unleavened bread for seven days.
7 On the first day of this festival, you will have a special meeting. You must not do any work on that day.
8 For seven days, you will bring sacrifices offered as gifts to the Lord. Then there will be another special meeting on the seventh day. You must not do any work on that day.” - Leviticus 23 vs 1 - 8

See where it is written as the Word out of God's mouth in verse 1 above?

1. After Jesus finished saying all these things, he said to his followers,
2. “You know that the day after tomorrow is Passover. On that day the Son of Man will be handed over to his enemies to be killed on a cross.” - Matthew 26 vs 1 - 2

See where it is clearly indicated as Words from God's mouth?

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=114771387] Recall I said God meant for us to live by every Word out of the Mouth of God?
You are quoting the bible. What if that was false

See where it is written as the Word out of God's mouth in verse 1 above?
So if show you some script and tell it was out of God's mouth you would believe it.
See where it is clearly indicated as Words from God's mouth? : The Quran is clearly indicated as the word of God.

tctrills:
Do you believe the Quran to be the word of God? Mohammed says it's God's word dictated to him by an angel.

I previously studied the Quran for a time in order to figure God out but I also couldn't make heads or tails of anything, just like the bible as well as other religious texts. It wasn't until I decided to, as I previously explained, ask God to show Himself to me and answer me, that He then led me to where I am today, and to also realize that the God of the Bible and Allah of the Quran arent the same entities at all. .

Kobojunkie:
Recall I said God meant for us to live by every Word out of the Mouth of God?
See where it is written as the Word out of God's mouth in verse 1 above?
See where it is clearly indicated as Words from God's mouth?

You can't tell what was from the mouth of God.
Just because the writer claims it was from the mouth does not make it so. How to you know when a script is from the mouth of God?

Kobojunkie:
I previously studied the Quran for a time in order to figure God out but I also couldn't make heads or tails of anything, just like the bible as well as other religious texts. It wasn't until I decided to, as I previously explained, ask God to show Himself to me and answer me, that He then led me to where I am today, and to also realize that the God of the Bible and Allah of the Quran arent the same entities at all. .

But billions of people make head or tail from the Quran. So do we now say that only text you approve of are the word of God?

tctrills:
1. You are quoting the bible. What if that was false
So if show you some script and tell it was out of God's mouth you would believe it.
2. The Quran is clearly indicated as the word of God.

1. Recall what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 5 vs 15 -17? I don't have to worry since it is indicated as God's Word.

2. Indicated by whom?

Kobojunkie:
I previously studied the Quran for a time in order to figure God out but I also couldn't make heads or tails of anything, just like the bible as well as other religious texts. It wasn't until I decided to, as I previously explained, ask God to show Himself to me and answer me, that He then led me to where I am today, and to also realize that the God of the Bible and Allah of the Quran arent the same entities at all. .

Just so you know, Mohammed said that every single word in the Quran came from the God. Not one word was his.

Kobojunkie:
1. Recall what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 5 vs 15 -17? I don't have to worry since it is indicated as God's Word.

2. Indicated by whom?

You can't be sure if it was Jesus that said those words or someone else.

Kobojunkie:
1. Recall what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 5 vs 15 -17? I don't have to worry since it is indicated as God's Word.

2. Indicated by whom?

The Quran is also indicated as the word of God. If your argument is that you believe anything indicated as the word of God then get ready. I could be indicating some text to be the word of God and I hope you remain consistent and believe them

tctrills:
But billions of people make head or tail from the Quran. So do we now say that only text you approve of are the word of God?

As I explained, the God of Abraham is not the same as Allah. Allah works for those who Allah works for. The God that answered my requests instead led me to where I am today, and continues to reveal His Truth daily the way He does.

tctrills:
The Quran is also indicated as the word of God.

By whom?

tctrills:

You can't be sure if it was Jesus that said those words or someone else.

I don't need to worry about such things

tctrills:
Just so you know, Mohammed said that every single word in the Quran came from the God. Not one word was his.

And the name of Mohammed's deity is Allah, a different God from the one I worship. So?

Kobojunkie:
I don't need to worry about such things

We are not talking about what worries you here. You said you believe anything indicated to be the word of God. So let me send you so scripts and indicate them to be the word of God.

Kobojunkie:
And the name of Mohammed's deity is Allah, a different God from the one I worship. So?

Allah is Arabic. Even in translations of the bible in Arabic, God is Allah.

Kobojunkie:
By whom?

who indicated that the bible contains the word of God?

tctrills:
We are not talking about what worries you here. You said you believe anything indicated to be the word of God. So let me send you so scripts and indicate them to be the word of God.

LOL.... you do understand that your scripts cannot violate God's standard or else they would be meaningless?

tctrills:
who indicated that the bible contains the word of God?

The God that showed up to answer me when I called for answers. He led me to where I am today, remember?

Kobojunkie:
LOL.... you do understand that your scripts cannot violate God's standard or else they would be meaningless?

What is God's standard? Do you mean the one found in the Quran?

Kobojunkie:
The God that showed up to answer me when I called for answers. He led me to where I am today, remember?

The believers of the Quran can make this very same statement like you. It means nothing in our argument

tctrills:

Allah is Arabic. Even in translations of the bible in Arabic, God is Allah.

I understand that it is a title but regardless they are not the same entities, well, unless you think the God described in your Bible and much of Scripture is a cosmic case of dissociative identity disorder that is.

tctrills:
The believers of the Quran can make this very same statement like you. It means nothing in our argument

Sure they can, but I don't worship their deity though. Even a Babalawo can make similar claims of his experiences with ifa but that doesn't mean anything since we don't serve the same deity.

Kobojunkie:
I understand that it is a title but regardless they are not the same entities, well, unless you think the God described in your Bible and much of Scripture is a cosmic case of dissociative identity disorder that is.

That's another topic, but then prove to me that they are different.
Remember the bible is wrong a lot of times so the God described in the bible may not be what you really think.

tctrills:
What is God's standard? Do you mean the one found in the Quran?

Why would I be referring to Allah's standard when Allah is not the God I refer to?

tctrills:
That's another topic, but then prove to me that they are different.
Remember the bible is wrong a lot of times so the God described in the bible may not be what you really think.

It is OK if you want to believe that God is a cosmic DID case... that is your cup of tea, not mine.