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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by timagentms: 2:21pm On Jul 26, 2022
Pls apart from Fiverr and Upwork, what are the other sites to visit in getting remote job
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Presido44: 2:24pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:
There are many non-tech remote jobs like customer care reps, sales executives, product managers/owners, software testers etc.

Pay is by experience level. $1k-$1.5k for beginners, $2k-$3.5k for mid and $5k+ for experienced roles depending on your field. Bear in mind that you have an 80% chance of being shortchanged if you have a Nigerian supervisor who will slash your pay and give you like 50% or less of these figures.

Hopefully, people like you don’t cross my path. I’d just waste you with three shots.


I supervise some African devs and I slash their salaries by more than 60% sometimes and divert it for myself. $500 is already big salary in Nigeria so any of them that complains gets kicked out at the next appraisal and replaced ASAP with someone who's willing to accept even less.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 2:26pm On Jul 26, 2022
timagentms:
Pls apart from Fiverr and Upwork, what are the other sites to visit in getting remote job

I have seen someone say Reddit.
I know someone that got from LinkedIn.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by timagentms: 2:30pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


I have seen someone say Reddit.
I know someone that got from LinkedIn.

Ok. Thank
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by engray: 2:31pm On Jul 26, 2022
Yes.. there are.
Asides from my current good job here in Naija.
A client I once taught his first and second child Mathematics home lesson about 4 years ago when they were in Naija called me from USA to teach his third child remotely just thrice per week. I get $200 per month from that. I know it's just a token of about 120k converted to Naira, but to me, it's just a free money.
Whatever you're doing currently, just put in your best of effort. There will come a point in your life where they'll speak for you when least expected.
N.B. I have my good job here in Naija which is also remote.
#I pray God opens door for everyone looking for a job here.#

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by VeryWickedMan: 2:33pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:
Thanks for all your responses so far. It would guide many Nairalanders.



You haven't thanked me for my contribution yet. angry
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by VeryWickedMan: 2:33pm On Jul 26, 2022
lexy2014:


So any reason why you are shortchanging people and slashing their pay?

Because I'm wicked

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 2:34pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:


You haven't thanked me for my contribution yet. angry

I am afraid your contribution was a wicked one. Stop doing that to your staff. cheesy

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by VeryWickedMan: 2:36pm On Jul 26, 2022
Jamesz12:
Please how can I reach you?



chiedozie198100:


how can I get the job?
Macdon245295:
. Please can I work for you

Nigerians love wickedness cheesy grin

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by AndroidAI(m): 2:37pm On Jul 26, 2022
jesmond3945:
you mean hand to mouth lol. That's what freelancing is.

In the freelance world, there are well paid freelancers, medium paid freelancers, low paid freelancers, and under paid freelancers.

Well paid freelancers barely make up 10%. Others live from hand to mouth due to numerous factors.

I happened to be a well paid freelancer, because I asked for what I'm worth, after being paid peanuts for years.

Now I make 7 figures monthly and if someone had told me I'll be earning this amount of money, I wouldn't have believed it.

Remote work isn't an easy path though. It's lonely and mentally tasking too. If it was easy, everyone will be successful. I

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by VeryWickedMan: 2:37pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


I am afraid your contribution was a wicked one. Stop doing that to your staff. cheesy

I need money.
Besides, they earn above many of their local peers.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by AgentGoat: 2:37pm On Jul 26, 2022
chatinent:
I go use pidgin. No vex.

True true, time go reach when administrative work go disappear unto say AI go take over. The takeover is already in place.

Tech is the future.

And e dey easy to learn now because na the basics. Soon, it will be expensive because of the demands.

But what I think?
It will always look difficult if we keep calling it technology. Technology is actually that skill everyone has. My dummy thoughts tho.

Did a voice over as an amateur for an Indian couple and they were wanting more. And I am like..with this my yeye voice? Hehe.

Tried virtual assistance..with a faster speed rate of delivering 10k words in a day. Employer asked how I did it. I no tell am. That's my secret...pay me.

Opened a website for a man running a candy shop in 20minutes, designed and functional. Dude was all surprised. First guy charged him $4000 for 3 weeks. I charged $2k for few minutes. You can guess the rest. No bi say I sabi pass the first person, no. But I only learn things with AI these days...it just makes works easier.

For instance, there's a tool to do everything you do in an office for a week in minutes. What's really the need visiting? You snap the paper, it converts to Word. It computes..provides options for charts and many more. Then why do humans suffer?

So I used to draw when I was lil. Like I draw well. But later, I found one tool where you put the original picture and it paints it like hand drawn. What I do, I freelanced with it. You can hardly tell... My secret? Simple tool! Faster delivery!


Everybody has a skill. Try doing the lil graphic design you know...it's money.

Even if na only pidgin you sabi translate to, visit sites and offer to translate their webpages to Nigerian pidgin. They may not pay you at first...yeah, work as an intern. They will add you to translation team. Na CV bi that for next paying jobs.

I'm proud to say I am a contributor and developer at Google. Oya ask me what I did. Na just to do survey and review. Offered to translate too. grin No bi say I kuma do anything self. But that batch that year, I was enlisted as a contributor. But you needed to see how I boosted with “Developer at Google” during my Fiverr days.

Same with Wikipedia. I helped edited some profile. My name enter team from Nigeria that year. grin It was in my freelance CV, trust me.

I'm sorry but I like money... genuine money tho.

Just do it write and yes, boost about it in your CV.

Everyone has a skill.

I know of a dude online who says he has no skill..but he sends potatoes as love notes to emotionally depressed folks. Dude is a freaking millionaire.


I believe every skill is technical. You just need to know to apply it to meet the audience.


So many ways to make money..but it requires consistency.


Did I forget? I think the analogue age hasn't really passed so far we remain a developing country.

So cashing out it easy until tomorrow.

I no dey too webinar again...pay me N100k make I put skill into you. Trust me, e no go affect your normal jobs.


Which of the information security spealty can you teach someone.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Iretii0511(m): 2:39pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


Make I bend if I transition.

I no go even make am. So no need. cheesy

You will excel in tech self. You are one hell of a smart person and tech is not as difficult as you assume.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by donbrowser(m): 2:40pm On Jul 26, 2022
jesmond3945:
up work? I thought you are talking of better remote, the one tensa and airlay are doing. Freelancing is good but I don't rate it. You cannot even make a living from it.

That's what you think right?
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by VeryWickedMan: 2:42pm On Jul 26, 2022
folake4u:



Chai. It will be fun watching you struggle with computers. I would laugh ehn. grin grin

At least you dey make money from am despite your computer-challenge. tongue


I can teach her

I will hold her hands from behind and guide her. I will make sure my hands graze her boobs then mutter an apology and continue the lecture. She will learn fast.

Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Iretii0511(m): 2:43pm On Jul 26, 2022
folake4u:


You and your phobia for computers though. grin

But yeah, the main Tech (programming et al) isn't easy. I tried learning how to code, I knew it wasn't for me. I kuku get Thin patience.


Lol. Perhaps you didn’t get the right roadmap, motivation and mentoring. It’s funny when smart people like you guys try to exaggerate the difficulty of tech.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by cococandy(f): 2:43pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


Thanks for this. Now I understand the question “Are you licensed to work in USA?” cheesy
yes they don’t play with the licensing ish. If you work one day over your license expiration, you would go to jail (at least in healthcare they do enforce that). Even though they know very well that you’re qualified and have been previously licensed. Just make sure your license is always current

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Raalsalghul: 2:49pm On Jul 26, 2022
DrLevi:

The damage would be done by then. An entire generation of tech bros and every other profession would suffer for it.

Unlike medicine and law, petroleum etc.. There were gates to the amount of people that those courses accepted. Tech is a free for all

Its sad seeing people with near zero interest in anything tech spend months and years of their lives in it just to because its the next big thing

Blame it on the hype and the few established professionals that boast of their bogus salaries meanwhile there are multitudes still unable to get their foot in.

There also needs to be a highlight on tech roles that don't involve programming.

The word "Tech" these days has become synonymous with learning programing.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by poiZon: 3:18pm On Jul 26, 2022
tensazangetsu20:
There's a lot. You could be a Salesforce admin. You could do marketing automation with tools like Salesforce marketing cloud or pardot. Their certifications are very highly valued. An entry level job in those fields will pay you more than even some senior devs in Nigeria sef and there's so much demand out there's it's so crazy. Research on tech platforms and no code tools there's always an administrative side to it which absolutely no programmer wants to use and touch and get good at those administrative tasks. Get insanely good and extremely dangerous and watch your fortunes change.
Please shed more light on this..
Thanks
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by chatinent: 3:24pm On Jul 26, 2022
AgentGoat:



Which of the information security spealty can you teach someone.

Anyone the person can pay.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 3:26pm On Jul 26, 2022
Raalsalghul:


Blame it on the hype and the few established professionals that boast of their bogus salaries meanwhile there are multitudes still unable to get their foot in.

There also needs to be a highlight on tech roles that don't involve programming.

The word "Tech" these days has become synonymous with learning programing.

Do you know these roles please?

Iretii0511:


You will excel in tech self. You are one hell of a smart person and tech is not as difficult as you assume.

Me ke? Say person sabi type English no mean say e get sense o. It may not be no difficult, but interest plays a key role. The interest is not there to start sef.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by airsaylongcome: 3:30pm On Jul 26, 2022
DrLevi:
WHAT IS OUT THERE FOR NON-TECH PEOPLE?
Striaght answer:
virtual assistant,
writing
voice over,
tech helpdesk,
translation,
3d art,
Animation,
music/beats.


I'm sure I'm missing a lot here which you can find if you visit the home page of any freelance site.

but the fact is all these have always been there. In fact only tech roles just recently opened up since covid and suddenly everyone seems to act like there haven't been people offering services outside programming for years as freelancers right from their homes to foreigners since forever
tech is the trend now and everyone want to be a developers. I blame twitter tech bros, na them cause this thing

The fact is, even the tech roles are not even there. Forget the hype on twitter, you'll understand when you get enough experience to apply for a job. Its hard to get, very hard.


WHAT IS A GOOD REMOTE PAY PER MONTH?
Collect whatever you see. With the exchange rate, you'd still leave a good life. There's no "good" salary and you should remove that thought from your mind. You should try to do good work and build trust, professionalism and reputation instead. You can charge whatever you want when you have years to experience to back your skill.

I can not applaud you enough. You see that tech support role you mentioned, loads of non-techies can use that as their entry route.

About starting pay, tech support for entry-level competence working for a US company should be about $15/hr. $8-$10 for Europe.

Another key point, anyone looking to get remote should get their Domiciliary accounts sorted ahead. Even if na $0 dey the account, get it sorted ahead. And if possible, open in USD, EUR and GBP simultaneously

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by lexy2014: 3:31pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:


Because I'm wicked

Why are u wicked?
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by airsaylongcome: 3:32pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


Do you know these roles please?



Me ke? Say person sabi type English no mean say e get sense o. It may not be no difficult, but interest plays a key role. The interest is not there to start sef.

Poco, I don’t know you personally. But if your real life is anything similar to your NL persona, trust me you will excel if you take time to hunt US remote roles. Those US companies thrive on brutally honest employees. Are you brutal? YES. Are you honest? YES.

Example “non-tech” tech roles include Project Management. Take a look at SCRUM. Many core tech folks don’t thrive there. It’s non-techies with people skills that get into those.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by airsaylongcome: 3:39pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


Make I bend if I transition.

I no go even make am. So no need. cheesy

Poco, I tell you for free that you will excel in tech. It’s not as difficult as people outside tech think it is. There are many sides to “tech” that are not tech. I work for a business that pays unbelievable amounts to educationists (highly experienced teachers for example). For sample figures, a remote role is available for to be an educational Program Director for $640k per annum. Many techies will never get that role because they don’t have people skills

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 3:47pm On Jul 26, 2022
airsaylongcome:


Poco, I don’t know you personally. But if your real life is anything similar to your NL persona, trust me you will excel if you take time to hunt US remote roles. Those US companies thrive on brutally honest employees. Are you brutal? YES. Are you honest? YES.

Example “non-tech” tech roles include Project Management. Take a look at SCRUM. Many core tech folks don’t thrive there. It’s non-techies with people skills that get into those.

I know project management. I have also heard of Scrum Master. They are the ones that act as links between the client and the “dev team”. A lot of headache from what I read. cheesy

Thanks for the compliment… Where do I do this hunting?
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jul 26, 2022
airsaylongcome:


I can not applaud you enough. You see that tech support role you mentioned, loads of non-techies can use that as their entry route.

About starting pay, tech support for entry-level competence working for a US company should be about $15/hr. $8-$10 for Europe.

Another key point, anyone looking to get remote should get their Domiciliary accounts sorted ahead. Even if na $0 dey the account, get it sorted ahead. And if possible, open in USD, EUR and GBP simultaneously
I think the problem is that there are no laid down entry piplelines into those fields unlike programming where YouTube, Udemy course yapa and seniors are available to help answer question when asked

Most people have not idea how to get started

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Nobody: 4:01pm On Jul 26, 2022
Raalsalghul:


Blame it on the hype and the few established professionals that boast of their bogus salaries meanwhile there are multitudes still unable to get their foot in.

There also needs to be a highlight on tech roles that don't involve programming.

The word "Tech" these days has become synonymous with learning programing.
True, them tech bros just make a ton of noise and funny enough all they do is reused opensource packages and libraries and flaunt $$$$ on twitter feed while the real developers are those who maintain the packages for free and even offer support.

Also I have to blame it on the anywhere-belle-face mentality of the average Nigerian. A large number of them can't think for them, research free stuff on the internet and make a choice that favours their natural skillset.
You see them talking about DSA when they haven't even been able to write a proper for-loop in any programming language. Always about the money before even acquiring the skills that would be paid for.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Ppp1p: 4:13pm On Jul 26, 2022
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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by airsaylongcome: 4:22pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


I know project management. I have also heard of Scrum Master. They are the ones that act as links between the client and the “dev team”. A lot of headache from what I read. cheesy

Thanks for the compliment… Where do I do this hunting?

Start with crossover dot come (purposely spelt incorrectly to get the spam bot off my tail). I know there’s a $60k/annum Scrum Master opening. But there are always openings there so you’d need to periodically check. There’s also we work remotely dot come (all one word) that I also keep my eyes on.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by airsaylongcome: 4:26pm On Jul 26, 2022
DrLevi:

True, them tech bros just make a ton of noise and funny enough all they do is reused opensource packages and libraries and flaunt $$$$ on twitter feed while the real developers are those who maintain the packages for free and even offer support.

Also I have to blame it on the anywhere-belle-face mentality of the average Nigerian. A large number of them can't think for them, research free stuff on the internet and make a choice that favours their natural skillset.
You see them talking about DSA when they haven't even been able to write a proper for-loop in any programming language. Always about the money before even acquiring the skills that would be paid for.

You have a problem with those? They have been huge life savers for me o! My main employer, 90% of the service we provide is based on OSS. 99% if I add our monitoring tool and fax solution. OSS is actually great and reduces one’s time to market. The most important thing is to have people competent using the OSS and can provide support. We are presently migrating our ERP to an OSS one and the cost savings is huge. My greatest strength is my somewhat deep knowledge of a variety of OSS solutions.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by LienwaltAbel(m): 4:26pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


Sounds line a plan. I love UI/UX design because it appeals to the part of me that loves beautifying places.
grin how many years do you plan on wasting?

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