₦airaland Forum

Jagabanofafrica:
Obi and his IPOB fanbase are comical. Do they think they will benefit electorally by discrediting BAT?

This election is a desperate 'cold war' between North and South. Stakes are very high because 'born to rule' Northerners who always demand power, so as to be able to control every Nigerian money - making parastatal and process, are at their most desperate , in the history of Nigeria, to ensure power remains in the North.

This is because they are petrified Buhari has done so much damage that any powerful Southerner, like Tinubu, will be demanded by the entire Nigeria to 'change it' for them and 'equalize'. There is real anger and bad blood in the heart of Southern Leaders over the perception Buhari has deliberately put the South in jeopardy to favour the North.

This is even why Atiku and Tambuwal combined desperately and jettisoned the need for fairness by finally destroying the North to South equitable power shift. Such is the desperation of some Northern leaders to hold on to power that they are willing to go into uncharted troubled water that may destroy the unity of Nigeria finally and completely.

Nigeria is now in a silent feudal war between North and South.

Even Kwankwaso has confessed that the 'mood' of the North is to retain power. What he failed to add is that it is the mood of Northern leaders and elite, whose existence depends on political power and patronage, he is referring to.

All in all, this is not Obi's level. It is not Amaechi's level or even Osinbajo's level. Those guys are not battle-ready leaders, like proven war generals, with a dedicated troop of leaders behind them who are ready to go to war with them.

Tinubu is the only Southerner who can battle the North so that Nigeria is reshaped in an image that benefits all to include even the Northerners ready to vote their historical and callous oppressors in the form of Kwankwaso and Atiku.

Obi is a little boy in a big man's game. He is going nowhere because there are levels and this is not his level nor his time. After Buhari, Nigeria will not survive the wrong choice of President for even 6 months.

Those talking about Obi are fantasists. Even in much better times in the past, Obi would never last as a President if he arrives with no legislators as he plans to do with Labour Party.


In today's troubled Nigeria, with so much good versus evil battle going on underground for the soul of our nation, Obi is just a clown in a joke of a political Party.

The North, if Atiku cannot win, would love Obi to win so they can impeach him within 3 months using the legislative majority we know they will always carry.

It is Tinubu, who is the most powerful southerner alive and a man who does not fear them, they are worried about and wish to keep out of Aso Rock by any means possible. Their continuous control of every sector of Nigeria desperately depends on keeping BAT awy from the Presidency.

If Obi had been in Tinubu's shoes, battling for the APC ticket against Northern 'born to rule' political fascism, he would have fled Nigeria to hide in Alaska.

The only good thing about Obi is that he will damage PDP's traditional strength in the SS and SE to the benefit of Tinubu and APC. Anyone thinking Obi has a chance does not understand the real desperate battle going on that cannot be spoken about openly by any of the candidates even though Kwankwaso has inadvertently clued on sharp Nigerians with his Northern "mood" talk.

On the contrary, Tinubu is more pro North just as ATIKU is more liberal and pro South. Tinubu that has been begging the North for VP slot since 2007. Shetima already said that he will be in charge of security (commander in chief of the armed forces) while Tinubu will be in charge of the economy. If you know, you know

Dsalvo:
Get real. Which state works as progressively as Lagos does or is as socio-economically successful as the State is to the extent it became 5th biggest economy in Africa under Tinubu and Fashola's leadership?

I don't know the sort of curse afflicting Nigerians whereby we cannot even admit factual truth because of hate, prejudice and bias.

Lagos is not the fifth biggest economy in Africa.


People also ask
What are the top 5 strongest economies in Africa?
The 2022 estimates are as follows:
1 | NIGERIA – (GDP: $510.58 Billion) ...
2 | EGYPT (GDP: $435.62 Billion) ...
3 | SOUTH AFRICA (GDP: $426.16 Billion) ...
4 | ALGERIA (GDP: $193.60 Billion) ...
5 | MOROCCO (GDP: $133.06 Billion) ...
6 | ANGOLA (GDP: $124.86 Billion) ...
7 | KENYA (GDP: $114.68 Billion


Please what's the GDP of Lagos? Liars

Dsalvo:
It can never be the automatic turn of a region who take a 'food is ready' approach to political power when you always show a disdain for assisting to cook the political meal that delivers power. You only want to eat after others put the effort in to cook the meal. You want the biggest portions as well.

You demonized and rejected the APC at birth yet you wanted to insult and blackmail the Party into 'dashing' you her ticket at the detriment of the deserving Yorubas.

You then failed, over 22 years, to make yourselves serious and dominant players in the PDP because you can never put in time and effort consistently over time. You people are always about instant gains.

Should the serious, strategically calculative and politically powerful Yorubas now join you to throw the slot of the South away pandering to the joke challenge of Obi he chose to prosecute in the joke Labour Party?

In fact Obi's conduct is indicative of everything wrong with Igbos. You demand things and wish to blackmail everyone but you are always found wanting when others are laying foundation block and ensuring the house has the requisite structural strength it needs to serve us all as shelter.

What you Igbos should have done, assuming you people are even into progress for Nigeria, and also assuming you are a patently reasonable and progressive people, is to negotiate with and partner with the SW that already has the capacity and political strength to mount a winning Presidential challenge.

My take is that you Igbo are a vainglorious and unreasonable people who only want the Presidency for the sake of it alone, and to dominate/control others, as you Igbos have historically remained obsessed with gaining without any interest in paying the political dues and partaking in the bridge-building that may make you dominant political players.

A big example is how the whole Biafra noise is dead completely today because Obi is now running. What bigger argument for the insincerity of the average Igbo than that?

If sincere about Biafra then why has Obi's Presidential challenge made you abandon it?

If previously serious about the Presidency why not put in real effort, beyond lip service alone and a sense of entitlement, into grooming a fit and united challenge for it?

The reason an average igbo is either a trader or a criminal dealing in drugs, fraud, etc. Always impatient for results - they want results without commensurate efforts. I also think they lack the capacity to properly plan, clearly see the end goal, and remain steadfast. This makes them look politically immature and therefore unfit to lead the nation. The igbos need to enroll for training on national politics in a complex country like Nigeria. Winning an election and managing a country like ours requires some level of sophistry which no politician from the igbos race has at the moment.

Nigerianization:
Lagos is not the fifth biggest economy in Africa.


People also ask
What are the top 5 strongest economies in Africa?
The 2022 estimates are as follows:
1 | NIGERIA – (GDP: $510.58 Billion) ...
2 | EGYPT (GDP: $435.62 Billion) ...
3 | SOUTH AFRICA (GDP: $426.16 Billion) ...
4 | ALGERIA (GDP: $193.60 Billion) ...
5 | MOROCCO (GDP: $133.06 Billion) ...
6 | ANGOLA (GDP: $124.86 Billion) ...
7 | KENYA (GDP: $114.68 Billion


Please what's the GDP of Lagos? Liars

You haven't made any point until you state the GDP of Lagos. The GDP of Nigeria is $510.58 Billion - what do you think is the contribution of Lagos?

Ggod bless you op

Nigerianization:
On the contrary, Tinubu is more pro North just as ATIKU is more liberal and pro South. Tinubu that has been begging the North for VP slot since 2007. Shetima already said that he will be in charge of security (commander in chief of the armed forces) while Tinubu will be in charge of the economy. If you know, you know

Tinubu is not "pro North" and I am always baffled at how you Nigerians can make patently incorrect statements just to support the stance you have taken.


Tinubu is a political leader aspiring to be President of Nigeria. To argue he is pro North you must show , from his leadership belief and political leaning, how he is pro North.

While virtually all Northern leaders, including Buhari, believe in spending government money derived from oil, Tinubu is a big fan of an economy diversified aggressively away from one source of income alone.

Tinubu believes in decentralization of power most Northerners will never contemplate that let alone support it. The North loves bureaucracy and bloated governance whereas Tinubu favors efficient, compact and 'streamlined' models of political and administrative leadership.

I could go on all day but point is that I really hate the dishonest way the average Nigerian is always happy to give a dog they hate a bad name to hang it.

Aside Tinubu's awareness he must compulsorily work with Northern politicians in 'one Nigeria' how exactly is he pro North? Or is that what you conclude makes him "pro North"? Perhaps because he worked for Buhari in 2015 against GEJ then that is pro North to you ba?

Conversely, how is Atiku more liberal and Pro South than Tinubu? Because he married a woman from virtually every State of Nigeria? What progressive political thinking does Atiku share with the South? What liberal policy has Atiku ever pursued for the North or even his native Adamawa?

I really don't get you people. You just take a side and then just craft arguments, however ludicrous or patently flawed , to back your corner. SMH.

OsunOriginal:
You haven't made any point until you state the GDP of Lagos. The GDP of Nigeria is $510.58 Billion - what do you think is the contribution of Lagos?

The lie was that Lagos is the fifth largest economy in Africa. I just gave you number one to seven. People should stop being ignorant. How can the economy of Lagos be bigger than countries like South Africa and Egypt?

Just because you want to hype Tinubu. For your information, Lagos is the biggest economy in Nigeria, nobody is disputing that. So make una lie with sense.

Dsalvo:
Tinubu is not "pro North" and I am always baffled at how you Nigerians can make patently incorrect statements just to support the stance you have taken.


Tinubu is a political leader aspiring to be President of Nigeria. To argue he is pro North you must show , from his leadership belief and political leaning, how he is pro North.

While virtually all Northern leaders, including Buhari, believe in spending government money derived from oil, Tinubu is a big fan of an economy diversified aggressively away from one source of income alone.

Tinubu believes in decentralization of power most Northerners will never contemplate that let alone support it. The North loves bureaucracy and bloated governance whereas Tinubu favors efficient, compact and 'streamlined' models of political and administrative leadership.

I could go on all day but point is that I really hate the dishonest way the average Nigerian is always happy to give a dog they hate a bad name to hang it.

Aside Tinubu's awareness he must compulsorily work with Northern politicians in 'one Nigeria' how exactly is he pro North? Or is that what you conclude makes him "pro North"? Perhaps because he worked for Buhari in 2015 against GEJ then that is pro North to you ba?

Conversely, how is Atiku more liberal and Pro South than Tinubu? Because he married a woman from virtually every State of Nigeria? What progressive political thinking does Atiku share with the South? What liberal policy has Atiku ever pursued for the North or even his native Adamawa?

I really don't get you people. You just take a side and then just craft arguments, however ludicrous or patently flawed , to back your corner. SMH.

We first need to ask if he understands the meaning of "pro-North". Most of these guys are not that learned. To an average igbo man, anyone who is not calling northerners cows, terrorists, etc is pro-North. They are so daft

Kagd10:
Will you keep your hole quiet?

First ,it was actually the Northern turn at the time Jonathan was there. Secondly, if Jonathan actually did well in his first term in 2011, no one would even have a problem with him. Meanwhile, Tinubu supported Jonathan in 2011.

In 2011, Tinubu supported GEJ by fielding Ribadu as ACN flag bearer? How una dey fail commom sense 101??

Nigerianization:
The lie was that Lagos is the fifth largest economy in Africa. I just gave you number one to seven. People should stop being ignorant. How can the economy of Lagos be bigger than countries like South Africa and Egypt?

Just because you want to hype Tinubu. For your information, Lagos is the biggest economy in Nigeria, nobody is disputing that. So make una lie with sense.

How can you intelligently controvert that without providing the correct Lagos GDP? You guys are not learned and I can see that in your candidate too. If you want to go into an argument. go from a position of knowledge.

They don't know oooh.. Tell them let them hear.

Dsalvo:
Tinubu is not "pro North" and I am always baffled at how you Nigerians can make patently incorrect statements just to support the stance you have taken.


Tinubu is a political leader aspiring to be President of Nigeria. To argue he is pro North you must show , from his leadership belief and political leaning, how he is pro North.

While virtually all Northern leaders, including Buhari, believe in spending government money derived from oil, Tinubu is a big fan of an economy diversified aggressively away from one source of income alone.

Tinubu believes in decentralization of power most Northerners will never contemplate that let alone support it. The North loves bureaucracy and bloated governance whereas Tinubu favors efficient, compact and 'streamlined' models of political and administrative leadership.

I could go on all day but point is that I really hate the dishonest way the average Nigerian is always happy to give a dog they hate a bad name to hang it.

Aside Tinubu's awareness he must compulsorily work with Northern politicians in 'one Nigeria' how exactly is he pro North? Or is that what you conclude makes him "pro North"? Perhaps because he worked for Buhari in 2015 against GEJ then that is pro North to you ba?

Conversely, how is Atiku more liberal and Pro South than Tinubu? Because he married a woman from virtually every State of Nigeria? What progressive political thinking does Atiku share with the South? What liberal policy has Atiku ever pursued for the North or even his native Adamawa?

I really don't get you people. You just take a side and then just craft arguments, however ludicrous or patently flawed , to back your corner. SMH.

Tinubu was always forced to speak whenever there are issues with his Yoruba nation. When the kidnapping in the south west was rampant and the Fulani was variously fingered in the plot, Tinubu downplayed the situation by and ridiculously asked, where are the cows?

What he would have done was just to condole with the people and appeal for calm instead of trivializing the whole incident.

Tinubu was one of the last political leaders to make his position known on the creation of amotekun. So much for a Yoruba leader.

He sure would work with everybody - North and South. However, he has not been known to stick out his neck for his people. Remember that he worked to install Tambuwal as Speaker against a south west candidate.

On a final note, I admire Tinubu. I cannot hate a man I love. Not supporting him is a different kettle of fish.

OsunOriginal:
How can you intelligently controvert that without providing the correct Lagos GDP? You guys are not learned and I can see that in your candidate too. If you want to go into an argument. go from a position of knowledge.

The GDP of Lagos is about 108 billion USD. About 20 percent of Nigeria's total GDP. Like I said, Lagos is the largest in Nigeria, not Africa

OsunOriginal:
The reason an average igbo is either a trader or a criminal dealing in drugs, fraud, etc. Always impatient for results - they want results without commensurate efforts. I also think they lack the capacity to properly plan, clearly see the end goal, and remain steadfast. This makes them look politically immature and therefore unfit to lead the nation. The igbos need to enroll for training on national politics in a complex country like Nigeria. Winning an election and managing a country like ours requires some level of sophistry which no politician from the igbos race has at the moment.

Eloquent and apt. 100% correct.

Dsalvo:
Eloquent and apt. 100% correct.

Oho.

Go and drink snipper

OsunOriginal:
We first need to ask if he understands the meaning of "pro-North". Most of these guys are not that learned. To an average igbo man, anyone who is not calling northerners cows, terrorists, etc is pro-North. They are so daft

You just displayed your stupidity Big time. Go back and read my response to the quote then come back let's talk. Your low level of education is evident otherwise you should know better than commiting the fallacy of hasty generalization

OsunOriginal:
We first need to ask if he understands the meaning of "pro-North". Most of these guys are not that learned. To an average igbo man, anyone who is not calling northerners cows, terrorists, etc is pro-North. They are so daft

Indeed. It has been shocking reading the posts of Igbos over time here. Distinctly unintelligent drivel from a people always touting intellectual superiority it is obvious they do not possess.

They think being "pro South" is fighting Northerners to a standstill always, as if they are not a part of Nigeria, to then seek their electoral support for their IPOB candidate in 2023.

Of course, and conversely, being "Pro-North" is what Tinubu displays by keeping cordial relationship with his Northern peers who are legitimate stakeholders in the political direction of Nigeria.

That Tinubu is not at daggers drawn with the North 24/7 means he is pro-North.
They really are daft and it does not take a Rocket scientist to tell us why Igbos are awful at politics.

Dsalvo:
Indeed. It has been shocking reading the posts of Igbos over time here. Distinctly unintelligent drivel from a people always touting intellectual superiority it is obvious they do not possess.

They think being "pro South" is fighting Northerners to a standstill aways, as if they are not a part of Nigeria, to then seek their electoral support for their IPOB candidate in 2023.

Of course, and conversely, being "Pro-North" is what Tinubu displays by keeping cordial relationship with his Northern peers who are legitimate stakeholders in the political direction of Nigeria.

That Tinubu is not at daggers drawn with the North 24/7 means he is pro-North.
They really are daft and it does not take a Rocket scientist to tell us why Igbos are awful at politics.

Is that why you are shouting naked ?

Opintiwa:
Oho.

Go and drink snipper

My good friend, how are you this fine afternoon? Is "Snipper" a brand of fine Cognac or Whisky?

Tell me where I can buy it so I can send it you to enjoy your with your girlfriend or boyfriend.

Dsalvo:
My good friend, how are you this fine afternoon? Is "Snipper" a brand of fine Cognac or Whisky?

Tell me where I can buy it so I can send it you to enjoy your with your girlfriend or boyfriend.

Yorubanza are synonymous to suicide, why not make your people proud .

Opintiwa:
Yorubanza are synonymous to suicide, why not make your people proud .

I am offering you a free bottle of drink and you are talking of suicide. Why not send your address so I can send you this "Snipper" drink asap? I can even get a courier to deliver it to you this evening.

Dsalvo:
I am offering you a free bottle of drink and you are talking of suicide. Why not send your address so I can send you this "Snipper" drink asap? I can even get a courier to deliver it to you this evening.

Movement

Movement
Jah.

Obi movement

Jah

BigIyanga:
In 2011, Tinubu supported GEJ by fielding Ribadu as ACN flag bearer? How una dey fail commom sense 101??

Yes. Tinubu supported Jonathan in 2011. Tinubu has always flagged someone in his ACN party. Did you expect him to leave the ticket of his ACN party empty? Na ment?

Dsalvo:
It can never be the automatic turn of a region who take a 'food is ready' approach to political power when you always show a disdain for assisting to cook the political meal that delivers power. You only want to eat after others put the effort in to cook the meal. You want the biggest portions as well.

You demonized and rejected the APC at birth yet you wanted to insult and blackmail the Party into 'dashing' you her ticket at the detriment of the deserving Yorubas.

You then failed, over 22 years, to make yourselves serious and dominant players in the PDP because you can never put in time and effort consistently over time. You people are always about instant gains.

Should the serious, strategically calculative and politically powerful Yorubas now join you to throw the slot of the South away pandering to the joke challenge of Obi he chose to prosecute in the joke Labour Party?

In fact Obi's conduct is indicative of everything wrong with Igbos. You demand things and wish to blackmail everyone but you are always found wanting when others are laying foundation block and ensuring the house has the requisite structural strength it needs to serve us all as shelter.

What you Igbos should have done, assuming you people are even into progress for Nigeria, and also assuming you are a patently reasonable and progressive people, is to negotiate with and partner with the SW that already has the capacity and political strength to mount a winning Presidential challenge.

My take is that you Igbo are a vainglorious and unreasonable people who only want the Presidency for the sake of it alone, and to dominate/control others, as you Igbos have historically remained obsessed with gaining without any interest in paying the political dues and partaking in the bridge-building that may make you dominant political players.

A big example is how the whole Biafra noise is dead completely today because Obi is now running. What bigger argument for the insincerity of the average Igbo than that?

If sincere about Biafra then why has Obi's Presidential challenge made you abandon it?

If previously serious about the Presidency why not put in real effort, beyond lip service alone and a sense of entitlement, intocompetent

a fit and united challenge for it?

We need a man with good records.
We need a man who is an competent

Not a baba who is very old and sick again.

What exactly is tifnubu coming to do, he endorsed buhari and we are still feeling the heat. Youth are leaving en masse for other countries.

We need a man that can restore hope back to the youth.



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fiizznation:
The way you talked about tinubu's power is funny. Your Tinubu won't win anything without the support of the North.
Take away the support of Northern APC governors from him, and your darling tinubu won't even win his southwest region. And this is fact.

Iwanted to write something along this line, it was northern APC governors led by El-Rufai that delivered for Tinubu during the primaries.

In trying to whip up regional sentiments, they are trying to rubbish the efforts of everyone, creating a 'we-them' mentality for others to tow.


When others do same, they are regional and ethnic champions, but when SWners do so, it's in defence of our democracy, for our greater good.

Clowns.

silibaba:
if you agree is the turn of the south then why not agree is the turn of the southeast as well?

Obasanjo/atiku. - southwest and north
Yaradua/Jonathan - North and southsouth
Jonathan/sambo. South south and north
Buhari/osibanjo - north and southwest

Looking at the above and if you can be sincere, which region should produce the next president?

But we are not after that now. We need the man with a good thinking cap.

Peter the rock is the man.


We saw and still seeing how Tinubu converted Lagos to his personal atm machine.

They removed Abode from office coz he refused to play to the gallery (to be remitting N500million monthly into ancestor personal account)

Funsho William that would have brought sanity to Lagos was assassinated.


We don't need old people that should playing with their grandchildren in Aso rock).

This election is not about tribe, religion, connection, structure, brother, sister. It is about leadership, competence, transparency and much more.

Obi, where you at?

Oga all your stories is for another day. Presidency is not what you can Micro zone . Do you know what Tinubu undergone before he could get Apc Ticket? You are here talking as if presidency is giving like the post of ministers. One thing I know sure is that the presidency is between Tinubu and Atiku and hich you all know that obi presidency noise you are making up and down is just to reduce the block votes Tinubu can get from the south and you give Atiku chance to win then we know Yorubas are not making noise like you poeple that just stop marginalization,Fulanis Hijads, Ahusas are enslave south and all other noises .Yorubas are endurance than you poeple making noise up and down .your eye will open you will still go back to your Biafra noise after 2023 election .at least you can never be satisfy with the position of spare Tire VP in pdp.

SmellyNyash:

What a joke
E go soon clear for una eyes
Obi is the incoming President

lol we shall see when borno votes alone cancel your tiny SE

Bravetunde:
Sorry thievy is not even a Southerner but he claims to be a Westerner but the truth is he is from Benin republic.
Yorubas Muslimns has said severally they are not Southerners,that's what they told ss/se when betrayingg gej and we reminded them that we are all Southerners.
Theify can go to hell,ss/se no send his bastardd father that he doesn't know.

Not everyone is a bastardd, like your uncle.

Anything can be Nigeria president but Tinubu.

adekolaelect:
Oga all your stories is for another day. Presidency is not what you can Micro zone . Do you know what Tinubu undergone before he could get Apc Ticket? You are here talking as if presidency is giving like the post of ministers. One thing I know sure is that the presidency is between Tinubu and Atiku and hich you all know that obi presidency noise you are making up and down is just to reduce the block votes Tinubu can get from the south and you give Atiku chance to win then we know Yorubas are not making noise like you poeple that just stop marginalization,Fulanis Hijads, Ahusas are enslave south and all other noises .Yorubas are endurance than you poeple making noise up and down .your eye will open you will still go back to your Biafra noise after 2023 election .at least you can never be satisfy with the position of spare Tire VP in pdp.

Obj was picked from prison to president.obj also went to pick a lecture (yaradua). No stress. Now the youth are picking peter obi as their next president. Is a crime for the youth to fight for what is theirs?

Good market they sell himself. No time for long talk.

Kagd10:
Yes. Tinubu supported Jonathan in 2011. Tinubu has always flagged someone in his ACN party. Did you expect him to leave the ticket of his ACN party empty? Na ment?

You keep believing your own lies… but we were not born in 2011. He formed his own and candidate.. but in 2003, his party AD, fielded no candidate because OBJ was on the ballot ?