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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:06pm On Sep 02, 2022
Courz:
New Living Translation. You have no idea how much this translation opened my eyes. There are other translations as good as this one. Once you start using these translations, you will understand why you never quite understood certain verses in the JW Bible. You will see their deception.
I'm currently using BSB(Beroean Study Bible) and William Barclay Study Bible
However I like enjoying variety so I use studylight to check varied renderings of Bible text fr different translations.
None of the Translators of NWT knew koine Greek only Fred Franz (He didn't complete his studies) he left college in his first year.
He was self taught in Hebrew.
During the Walter Walsh trial he was place under oath to translate a particular verse, my guy talk sey him no fit grin grin grin
Anyway I'm not mocking them, just saying the facts.
I think if the org has like 5Fred Franz among the GB today most of this their teachings like "Overlapping generation" will have long been discarded
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:12pm On Sep 02, 2022
tctrills:
After reading from Templee333, I have come to believe that JW members need our love and understanding. Their doctrine may not be correct but the believe it with all their soul. Most of them are good people who are trying their best to follow Jesus Christ.
They are my people,"Love is a perfect Bond of union" I stand to gain nothing hating any religion or it's members, I have nothing against them. It's just the leadership denying the basic teachings of the Christian Church and twisting the scriptures (The same thing they accuse Christendom of doing).
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 12:16pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
They are my people,"Love is a perfect Bond of union" I stand to gain nothing hating any religion or it's members, I have nothing against them. It's just the leadership denying the basic teachings of the Christian Church and twisting the scriptures (The same thing they accuse Christendom of doing).
That's so true. I understand why many of them on this thread are provokes and angered. Let us show them some compassion.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:29pm On Sep 02, 2022
I finally came to a conclusion that the GB don't even believe what the teach.
The UN is being identified as the wild beast of Revelation and it is called a disgusting thing that will be destroyed at Armageddon. The churches that join UN as NGO'S were being condemned and liable to Eternal Destruction.
But in 1992 the same WTBTS became a member of the abominable UN. The disgusting thing lipsrsealed kiss cry
*The screenshot is fresh, I just took it a few minutes ago, One is from the UN official website. If you need the link I'll give you immediately.
*The second is from the Elder Manual Shepherd the flock of God with guidelines on how to treat a member of the church who takes a non-neutral stand.
Neutrality is being stressed time and again by the witnesses, but the GB themselves "The guardians of Doctrine (According to Geof.Jackson) did not keep their neutral stand.
So according to the guideline in the STF book the should be disassociated and no longer be called Witnesses of Jehovah.
This is what are Lord Jesus warned about, people who will Lord over the flock at Luke 11:46
And he said, “Woe to you lawyers also! For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers."

Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:35pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I finally came to a conclusion that the GB don't even believe what the teach.
The UN is being identified as the wild beast of Revelation and it is called a disgusting thing that will be destroyed at Armageddon. The churches that join UN as NGO'S were being condemned and liable to Eternal Destruction.
But in 1992 the same WTBTS became a member of the abominable UN. The disgusting thing lipsrsealed kiss cry
*The screenshot is fresh, I just took it a few minutes ago, One is from the UN official website. If you need the link I'll give you immediately.
*The second is from the Elder Manual Shepherd the flock of God with guidelines on how to treat a member of the church who takes a non-neutral stand.
Neutrality is being stressed time and again by the witnesses, but the GB themselves "The guardians of Doctrine (According to Geof.Jackson) did not keep their neutral stand.
So according to the guideline in the STF book the should be disassociated and no longer be called Witnesses of Jehovah.
This is what are Lord Jesus warned about, people who will Lord over the flock at Luke 11:46
And he said, “Woe to you lawyers also! For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers."
If you think the UN is lying, then The Watchtower has every right and power to sue them for libel and slander. And believe me they will come out victorious.
But no action has been taken which should tell you something grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:37pm On Sep 02, 2022
tctrills:
it's well my brother. I understand you.
You're my NEIGHBOUR since we live on this planet together.

But BROTHER? Naaaaaaaaaaa you and i have nothing in common.
Well you can only be my brother if we are either related through blood, business or faith but since we're not related in any way that means you and i are NEIGHBOURS not BROTHERS! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley

tctrills:
That's so true. I understand why many of them on this thread are provokes and angered. Let us show them some compassion.
Provocation comes naturally and it's only perfect humans that never gets provoked {James 3:2} i only target my BROTHERS lost in false religions {Matthew 10:6} our language {Zephaniah 3:9} the only true religion {John 14:6} so at the mention of this they won't be comfortable anywhere they are {John 4:20} until they joining us. John 10:27

It's those on the broad road {Matthew 7:13-14} that feel indifferent towards sacred matters, Jehovah's sheep are always looking forward to being among God's flock! Isaiah 2:3

You can't avoid me when you're commenting on threads having to do with my spiritual family, you even came commenting on my thread so in what way are you avoiding me? smiley
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 12:52pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You're my NEIGHBOUR since we live on this planet together.

But BROTHER? Naaaaaaaaaaa you and i have nothing in common.
Well you can only be my brother if we are either related through blood, business or faith but since we're not related in any way that means you and i are NEIGHBOURS not BROTHERS! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley



Provocation comes naturally and it's only perfect humans that never gets provoked {James 3:2} i only target my BROTHERS lost in false religions {Matthew 10:6} our language {Zephaniah 3:9} the only true religion {John 14:6} so at the mention of this they won't be comfortable anywhere they are {John 4:20} until they joining us. John 10:27

It's those on the broad road {Matthew 7:13-14} that feel indifferent towards sacred matters, Jehovah's sheep are always looking forward to being among God's flock! Isaiah 2:3

You can't avoid me when you're commenting on threads having to do with my spiritual family, you even came commenting on my thread so in what way are you avoiding me? smiley
Again, like I said, I understand your position. May you find peace.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m):
tctrills:
Again, like I said, I understand your position. May you find peace.
There is abundant peace among God's people! John 14:27 wink
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 1:15pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
There is abundance peace among God's people! John 14:27 wink
Good you know bro. I wish you well.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:20pm On Sep 02, 2022
tctrills:
Good you know bro. I wish you well.
Jesus taught us to wish everyone well so even if you don't wish us well we are under compulsion to wish everyone around us well! Matthew 5:44-48
That's why we keep going to their doors to call them so they may benefit from the message of the Good News of God's Kingdom! Matthew 10:11-13 compare to Romans 10:13-15

So my NEIGHBOUR i wish you well! smiley
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 1:22pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus taught us to wish everyone well so even if you don't wish us well we are under compulsion to wish everyone around us well! Matthew 5:44-48
That's why we keep going to their doors to call them so they may benefit from the message of the Good News of God's Kingdom! Matthew 10:11-13 compare to Romans 10:13-15

So my NEIGHBOUR i wish you well! smiley
Nothing do you, like I said, I understand you position better now.
When you understand why people act the way they do, you are kinder to them.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:29pm On Sep 02, 2022
tctrills:
Nothing do you, like I said, I understand you position better now.
When you understand why people act the way they do, you are kinder to them.
KINDNESS is part of the taste found in the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22} so a Christian should be kind to everyone {Matthew 5:45} we only get closer to our kind {Galatians 6:10} as in our family in the house of faith! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 1:33pm On Sep 02, 2022
Courz:
Just check out this testimony from an Ex Bethelite about a meeting they had with the governing body members at Bethel based on the issue of Bethelites having their own separate meetings separate from the rest of the Bethelites. Below are the words of two Governing body members to the whole Bethel family who are now late. So, not only are the bible principles not enough for JWs but they have to serve "Their Mother" a. k. a The Organisation that has over I000 rules and regulations to follow. Jesus says we are not under the Mosaic Law. Based on the screenshot, Watchtower says Mbanu, JWs must be under their law and that Law is the Organisation. People who want to join this Cult, I hope you are taking notes! grin grin
Organization is God aka Jehovah grin grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 1:34pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
KINDNESS is part of the taste found in the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22} so a Christian should be kind to everyone {Matthew 5:45} we only get closer to our kind {Galatians 6:10} as in our family in the house of faith! Matthew 12:46-50 smiley
ok
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Templee333(op): 1:39pm On Sep 02, 2022
Since there is someone here who knows everything,he knows the reason why people leave the JW organization as he had repeatedly said in this forum. Now he has left his "study the bible" thread to come & preach here. I think its time for me to leave the story 4 him to continue bcause he knows my own story more than me. So Mr. Max,take over. Make sure u tell them the truth. Goodbye guys!
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 1:40pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I think Archoladey has put everything in order
He was even using Watchtower Publications to prove the point raised
Which makes me wonder why the so-called apostates know more than Zealots and fanatics like Maximus grin grin grin grin grin
An apostate knows your organization more than you grin grin grin
E choke grin
To avoid them come saying I am putting out misinformation, lies, half truths, maligning the organization. I have to cite or reference their materials. They find it difficult to counter that.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by cornelboy(f): 1:53pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
John:4.23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
You didn't answer the question na.

The 12 disciples and the early church were the first true worshipers Jesus testified. They did worship God in spirit and truth, they preached the gospel to other places as Jesus commissioned them untill the Catholic took over the church by force.
The true worshipers were killed and pure doctrines of the church were distorted.

Now the JWs are here and are taking pure worship back as it were in the early church.
They are the true worshipers we have today.

If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 2:01pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I think Archoladey has put everything in order
He was even using Watchtower Publications to prove the point raised
Which makes me wonder why the so-called apostates know more than Zealots and fanatics like Maximus grin grin grin grin grin
An apostate knows your organization more than you grin grin grin
E choke grin
Morris III says.........

There are many people who believe there is no need for a religious organization. They feel their own personal relationship with God and that is good enough, they say no need to be associated with a specific organisation.

He added.......


However what does God's own inspired word suggest? That he will use an organization or channel through which spiritual food will be dispensed from the Bible.

What did their publication say......


But spirit and truth are not material, nor are they limited to any physical place. Thus, Jesus was explaining that true Christian worship would not be centered in or dependent on any material structure or physical location, whether Mount Gerizim, the temple in Jerusalem, or any other sacred place.

When Jesus mentioned worshipping with spirit, he was not speaking of a particularly spirited, animated, or enthusiastic form of worship. Rather, he was talking about being guided by God’s holy spirit, which among other things guides our understanding of the Scriptures. (1 Corinthians 2:9-12) And the truth Jesus referred to is an accurate knowledge of Bible teachings. Therefore, rather than being rendered at any special place, our worship will be acceptable to God if it conforms to what the Bible teaches and is guided by the holy spirit.


Let's ask Morris where is organization or channel in all of this? No where. The moment he said an organization or channel is needed is the moment he contradicted this part of that publication that states.....

But spirit and truth are not material, nor are they limited to any physical place. Thus, Jesus was explaining that true Christian worship would not be centered in or dependent on any material structure or physical location, whether Mount Gerizim, the temple in Jerusalem, or any other sacred place.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:02pm On Sep 02, 2022
Templee333:
Since there is someone here who knows everything,he knows the reason why people leave the JW organization as he had repeatedly said in this forum. Now he has left his "study the bible" thread to come & preach here. I think its time for me to leave the story 4 him to continue bcause he knows my own story more than me. So Mr. Max,take over. Make sure u tell them the truth. Goodbye guys!
I'm not a storyteller but a messenger of the Good News of God's Kingdom.
If you have been talking about other religions and no one came to refute the lies you're spewing that's because the god in such a religion is DEAD {Psalms 115:4-8} but as we JWs we worship JEHOVAH the living God so we can talk about pure worship if you ask questions not lies claiming you're Mr SUPERSTORY.

If you've been in the organization before others and you have your reservation it's normal but coming here to tell lies is evil! smiley
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:07pm On Sep 02, 2022
cornelboy:
You didn't answer the question na.
The 12 disciples and the early church were the first true worshipers Jesus testified. They did worship God in spirit and truth, they preached the gospel to other places as Jesus commissioned them untill the Catholic took over the church by force.
The true worshipers were killed and pure doctrines of the church were distorted.
Now the JWs are here and are taking pure worship back as it were in the early church.
They are the true worshipers we have today.
If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God.
Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!
What a wonderful write-up! smiley

If Christianity is to be different sects claiming denominations under one umbrella with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, if they're so disunited to the point of raising weapons against their fellow believers in the face of politics and racism, if they can't vouch confidently for the faith as it is found written in the Bible, then God , religion, Christianity is all SCAM!

Kudos my brother, i will show other brothers this comment an interested person typed on social media! smiley
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by cornelboy(f): 2:12pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I'm not a storyteller but a messenger of the Good News of God's Kingdom.
If you have been talking about other religions and no one came to refute the lies you're spewing that's because the god in such a religion is DEAD {Psalms 115:4-8} but as we JWs we worship JEHOVAH the living God so we can talk about pure worship if you ask questions not lies claiming you're Mr SUPERSTORY.
If you've been in the organization before others and you have your reservation it's normal but coming here to tell lies is evil! smiley
His story don finish be that. cheesy cheesy
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:47pm On Sep 02, 2022
cornelboy:
His story don finish be that. cheesy cheesy
He doesn't want JWs to come refute his lies nah:

Templee333:
PREFACE TO THIS STORY
I thank everyone who followed my previous stories thoroughly. I hope u learned a thing or two by reading them. Here I want u all to know BCS wasn't the begining of everything. It was after my effort to find the biblical God in other christian denominations had yielded no result that i started to look elswhere.I want to narate a story that i believe will be an eye opener to a lot of people.I left the JW society at the age of 22. After releasing all my effort into the only organization i believed was the "truth",i came to realize that i've been lied to. If u are a faithful Jw reading this,please kindly get out because it is an apostate thread & it's not good for ur blind faith. But if u are a JW who is trying hard to believe the bulshits u r being fed in the organization,stay here & see how ur already weary faith extinguishes in a short time. Unlike the other stories,i am 100% sure of anything i'l tell u here abt the JWs. This is templee333 apostate network FM, DONT TOUCH THE DIAL...
But he has forgotten that JEHOVAH is not like other gods that are DEAD {Psalms 115:4-7} so those who know JEHOVAH'S servants on the forum will surely make calls:

zoer:
MaxinDhouse will come for you if only he won't derail the topic
TenQ:
My legs crossed.
Waiting for MaxIntheHouse , Janosky
The other gods are dead so their worshipers are as dead as the gods they worship! Psalms 115:8

But as for JEHOVAH this is what He said:

No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah! Isaiah 54:17

Glory be to Jehovah of armies! smiley
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 2:51pm On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
God airpus.

No mind that one wey go dey parrot and boast about things e no understand for nairaland up and down thinking na military intelligence dem dey use understand bible or his religious publicationsgrin grin grin
Achorladey dey yab another man , Jehovah's servant,let's see the evidence of Achorladey poor horrible understanding of the holy scripture PROVEN by his own Bible.
Examine the next post....
achorladey:
In their Bible teach book this is captured......

Remember, too, that you have made a dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work, a cause, other humans, or an organization. Your dedication and baptism are the beginning of a very close friendship with God​—an intimate relationship with him.... Page 183

Baptismal second question comes....... grin


Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?


Double face everywhere
Achorladey,I ask you:
According to your Bible,(Psalm 89:5-7 Isaiah 43:10 (ASV) , John 9:4 & Acts 15:7-17, Does Jehovah God work alone?


Can you work for Dangote & be disloyal to his Company?
Jehovah God is the Supreme C.E.O.- John 9:4 & Psalm 89:5-7.

John 9:4, Jesus Christ says WE,JWs work for His God & Father under the direction from God's Council in heaven,
E get why every language get synonyms.
Is Council an Organization?
Get a Hebrew /Greek language dictionary and give us the synonyms for Council.
Or continue your mumu online.
Anyone who supports Achorladey can join in his mumu & myopia.
. grin

You either get it or continue your mumu on Nairaland.

Achorladey "double face" claim is smokescreen for his myopia of the holy scriptures.



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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 2:58pm On Sep 02, 2022
Janosky:
Achorladey dey yab another man , Jehovah's servant,let's see the evidence of Achorladey poor horrible understanding of the holy scripture PROVEN by his own Bible.
Examine the next post....


Achorladey,I ask you:
According to your Bible,(Psalm 89:5-7 Isaiah 43:10 (ASV) , John 9:4 & Acts 15:7-17, Does Jehovah God work alone?


Can you work for Dangote & be disloyal to his Company.
Jehovah God is the Supreme C.E.O.
John 9:4, Jesus Christ says WE,JWs work for His God & Father under the direction from God's Council in heaven,
E get why every language get synonyms.
Is Council an Organization?
Get a Hebrew /Greek language dictionary and give us the synonyms for Council.
Or continue your mumu online.
Anyone who supports Achorladey can join in his mumu & myopia.
. grin

You either get it or continue your mumu on Nairaland.

Achorladey "double face" claim is smokescreen for his myopia of the holy scriptures



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ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE grin grin grin grin grin grin

Plenty wahala of no get sense peddling peddler. My discussion was not about God working alone. My discussion is not about "Jehovah’s organization" that man made construct of your religious leaders grin grin grin grin

Achorladey "double face" claim is smokescreen for his myopia of the holy scriptures
You cannot cover your religious organisation double face by hiding it behind your mumu peddling or giving me labels or tags or saying I have poor or horrible understanding of the scripture. grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 3:01pm On Sep 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I'm not a storyteller but a messenger of the Good News of God's Kingdom.
If you have been talking about other religions and no one came to refute the lies you're spewing that's because the god in such a religion is DEAD {Psalms 115:4-8} but as we JWs we worship JEHOVAH the living God so we can talk about pure worship if you ask questions not lies claiming you're Mr SUPERSTORY.

If you've been in the organization before others and you have your reservation it's normal but coming here to tell lies is evil! smiley
The OP is a confirmed atheist.
The motley Crew of atheists and anywhere Belle face Crew, does Templee333 believe in the Jesus they profess?
The answer is no !
Templee333 knows that.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 3:26pm On Sep 02, 2022
achorladey:
To avoid them come saying I am putting out misinformation, lies, half truths, maligning the organization. I have to cite or reference their materials. They find it difficult to counter that.
They will just runaway
And good a think the publication was recent
Cus if you qouted an older publication they will shout "old light" grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:40pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I'm currently using BSB(Beroean Study Bible) and William Barclay Study Bible
However I like enjoying variety so I use studylight to check varied renderings of Bible text fr different translations.
None of the Translators of NWT knew koine Greek only Fred Franz (He didn't complete his studies) he left college in his first year.
He was self taught in Hebrew.
During the Walter Walsh trial he was place under oath to translate a particular verse, my guy talk sey him no fit grin grin grin
Anyway I'm not mocking them, just saying the facts.
I think if the org has like 5Fred Franz among the GB today most of this their teachings like "Overlapping generation" will have long been discarded
Actually, Any translation that helps you to understand the Bible is good.

As for Fred Franz, don't mind that fraud JWs were worshipping. He lied that he knew Greek abi Hebrew yet he couldn't translate when asked to. Is that not why Watchtower refused to release the names of the JW Bible translation team? Fred Franz's nickname was The Oracle. The name should tell you what Watchtower was doing. Spiritism. Fred Franz was the one who came up with the prediction of 1975. So, if he was still alive, he would have concocted more outrageous predictions plus doctrines.

Do you know that Fred Franz kicked against the formation of the Governing body during a convention? The JWs in the convention were confused. He said the formation of a Governing body is not Biblical. Because he was President of Watchtower and needed all the power but some Watchtower officials needed power too, there was a tussle. This just shows that the doctrines of JWs depend on the person or people in Leadership. If these Governing body die off, a new leadership will come up with another set of doctrines again. grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 3:41pm On Sep 02, 2022
cornelboy:
You didn't answer the question na.

The 12 disciples and the early church were the first true worshipers Jesus testified. They did worship God in spirit and truth, they preached the gospel to other places as Jesus commissioned them untill the Catholic took over the church by force.
The true worshipers were killed and pure doctrines of the church were distorted.

Now the JWs are here and are taking pure worship back as it were in the early church.
They are the true worshipers we have today.

If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God.
What evidence do you have to make such a bogus claim?
So you mean that throughout the centuries there has been no true worshiper?
That True Worshipers were only members of Russell's I.B.S.A movement with JW being one of the breakaway groups?
Remember Jesus parable about the weed and the wheat. The Weed will overpower the wheat but both will grow together until the harvest time.
That is when Christ comes and then we know who is who
Concerning the Bible portion I qouted, I think the article on JW.org gave a satisfactory explanation
Concerning this your statement:
"If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God."
*First and foremost the Bible you are holding contains a collection of books which was decided by the council of the Church fathers (the ones you called counterfeit Christian) to be part of Scripture.
*The name your bearing "JEHOVAH" was invented by a Catholic monk Raymond is Martini.
*The master text for the NWT is based on the works of Christendom scholars Wescott and Hort.
*The doctrine of 1914, 607, Invisible presence came from an Adventist evangelist Nelson Barbour.
And a whole lot of other things, what I'm trying to say is that we are indebted to each other.
WT organization can't claim absolute truth and knowledge when they are clearly benefitng from the hard work of others (who they term as Christendom).
No man is an ISLAND, a lot of teachings by the WTs were already believe by other people at some point in history.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 3:47pm On Sep 02, 2022
Courz:
Actually, Any translation that helps you to understand the Bible is good.

As for Fred Franz, don't mind that fraud JWs were worshipping. He lied that he knew Greek abi Hebrew yet he couldn't translate when asked to. Is that not why Watchtower refused to release the names of the JW Bible translation team? Fred Franz's nickname was The Oracle. The name should tell you what Watchtower was doing. Spiritism. Fred Franz was the one who came up with the prediction of 1975. So, if he was still alive, he would have concocted more outrageous predictions plus doctrines.

Do you know that Fred Franz kicked against the formation of the Governing body during a convention? The JWs in the convention were confused. He said the formation of a Governing body is not Biblical. Because he was President of Watchtower and needed all the power but some Watchtower officials needed power too, there was a tussle. This just shows that the doctrines of JWs depend on the person or people in Leadership. If these Governing body die off, a new leadership will come up with another set of doctrines again. grin grin
I listen to his talk refuting the GB stuff(it's available on YouTube)
He had a very sound reasoning and argument.
Had it been someone said that today, he'll be disfellowshiped immediately.
New witnesses will even think it's apostate propaganda not knowing it's their former president who gave such a talk grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 3:51pm On Sep 02, 2022
Courz:
Actually, Any translation that helps you to understand the Bible is good.

As for Fred Franz, don't mind that fraud JWs were worshipping. He lied that he knew Greek abi Hebrew yet he couldn't translate when asked to. Is that not why Watchtower refused to release the names of the JW Bible translation team? Fred Franz's nickname was The Oracle. The name should tell you what Watchtower was doing. Spiritism. Fred Franz was the one who came up with the prediction of 1975. So, if he was still alive, he would have concocted more outrageous predictions plus doctrines.

Do you know that Fred Franz kicked against the formation of the Governing body during a convention? The JWs in the convention were confused. He said the formation of a Governing body is not Biblical. Because he was President of Watchtower and needed all the power but some Watchtower officials needed power too, there was a tussle. This just shows that the doctrines of JWs depend on the person or people in Leadership. If these Governing body die off, a new leadership will come up with another set of doctrines again. grin grin
Lest I forget, I saw a video of a brother giving a talk and then he read Romans:10:8&9
"The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming:
That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Immediately the brother was dragged from the platform grin grin grin grin angry
The video is on YouTube, I later heard he was disfellowshiped later.( There's a follow up video of his interview I think I will check it out to get the full story)
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:55pm On Sep 02, 2022
OgaNightmare:
I listen to his talk refuting the GB stuff(it's available on YouTube)
He had a very sound reasoning and argument.
Had it been someone said that today, he'll be disfellowshiped immediately.
New witnesses will even think it's apostate propaganda not knowing it's their former president who gave such a talk grin grin grin
Oh yes. His argument against the formation of the Governing body was very correct in fact that is the only truth Fred Franz ever came up with. And Yes, anyone who makes such an argument will be disfellowshipped immediately.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Janosky:
achorladey:
ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE .
Achorladey can not cover his SUPERGLUE TO MYOPIA .
For him mind, Isaiah 6:8, Psalm 89:5-7 & John 9:4 is "RECENT"


achorladey:
Plenty wahala of no get sense peddling peddler. My discussion was not about God working alone. My discussion is not about "Jehovah’s organization" that man made construct of your religious leaders grin grin grin grin
Isaiah 6:8 & Psalm 89:5-7,is Jehovah's answer to Achorladey myopia.
Oga, receive Sense Or STAY SUPERGLUED to myopia.

Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?”+ And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”+
Whom shall Jehovah send?
Isaiah was sent by Jehovah for His Organization.

Jehovah says :and who will go for us?”

Who will go for Jehovah's Council?
Who will go for Jehovah's Organization,His Holy Council?


Achorladey SUPERGLUED TO MYOPIA.
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achorladey:
You cannot cover your religious organisation double face by hiding it behind your mumu peddling or giving me labels or tags or saying I have poor or horrible understanding of the scripture[/b].
Achorladey can not cover his SUPERGLUE TO MYOPIA
"by hiding it behind his mumu peddling & tags"[/b]
Achorladey go tell you say "Organization" no dey him Bible.
Oga , the word "Christmas" dey your Bible?

Isaiah 6:8, Jehovah says Carry una atheism mumu outta here.. grin grin grin
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