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cornelboy:
You didn't answer the question na.

The 12 disciples and the early church were the first true worshipers Jesus testified. They did worship God in spirit and truth, they preached the gospel to other places as Jesus commissioned them untill the Catholic took over the church by force.
The true worshipers were killed and pure doctrines of the church were distorted.

Now the JWs are here and are taking pure worship back as it were in the early church.
They are the true worshipers we have today.

If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God.

OgaNightmare:
Lest I forget, I saw a video of a brother giving a talk and then he read Romans:10:8&9
"The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming:
That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Immediately the brother was dragged from the platform
The video is on YouTube, I later heard he was disfellowshiped later.( There's a follow up video of his interview I think I will check it out to get the full story)

OgaNightmare:
What evidence do you have to make such a bogus claim?
So you mean that throughout the centuries there has been no true worshiper?
That True Worshipers were only members of Russell's I.B.S.A movement with JW being one of the breakaway groups?
Remember Jesus parable about the weed and the wheat. The Weed will overpower the wheat but both will grow together until the harvest time.
That is when Christ comes and then we know who is who
Concerning the Bible portion I qouted, I think the article on JW.org gave a satisfactory explanation
Concerning this your statement:
"If it's not the JWs then Christianity, religion, Bible are scams. Everyone should stop believing in God."
*First and foremost the Bible you are holding contains a collection of books which was decided by the council of the Church fathers (the ones you called counterfeit Christian) to be part of Scripture.
*The name your bearing "JEHOVAH" was invented by a Catholic monk Raymond is Martini.
*The master text for the NWT is based on the works of Christendom scholars Wescott and Hort.
*The doctrine of 1914, 607, Invisible presence came from an Adventist evangelist Nelson Barbour.
And a whole lot of other things, what I'm trying to say is that we are indebted to each other.
WT organization can't claim absolute truth and knowledge when they are clearly benefitng from the hard work of others (who they term as Christendom).
No man is an ISLAND, a lot of teachings by the WTs were already believe by other people at some point in history.

achorladey:
Dem no dey practice or follow wetin dem dey teach. Extract from one of their publications........


The mountain that the woman referred to was Mount Gerizim, located about 30 miles (50 km) north of Jerusalem. There the Samaritans once had a temple where they celebrated festivals such as the Passover. However, instead of focusing on this controversial difference between them, Jesus said to the woman: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.” (John 4:21) What an astounding comment, especially coming from a Jew! Why would the worship at God’s temple in Jerusalem cease?


The Jewish temple was a tangible structure at a specific geographic location. But spirit and truth are not material, nor are they limited to any physical place. Thus, Jesus was explaining that true Christian worship would not be centered in or dependent on any material structure or physical location, whether Mount Gerizim, the temple in Jerusalem, or any other sacred place.

When Jesus mentioned worshipping with spirit, he was not speaking of a particularly spirited, animated, or enthusiastic form of worship. Rather, he was talking about being guided by God’s holy spirit, which among other things guides our understanding of the Scriptures. (1 Corinthians 2:9-12) And the truth Jesus referred to is an accurate knowledge of Bible teachings. Therefore, rather than being rendered at any special place, our worship will be acceptable to God if it conforms to what the Bible teaches and is guided by the holy spirit.


See their article Should Christians Worship at Shrines?

Yet they released a letter of recent to all their congregations complaining that some have decided to continue and remain on ZOOM meetings at home instead of going to the kingdom halls stating they are not doing more to worship Jehovah in person at and inside the kingdom halls.




Kingdom halls na special and sacred place of worship for them that's why they dedicate it to Jehovah despite stating in the article metioned above that God don't need such places. If indeed kingdom halls are not sacred, dedicated or special places for worship. Let them open them up for other public events or gatherings or use it as polling booths for elections

Janosky:
Achorladey can not cover his SUPERGLUE TO MYOPIA .
For him mind, Isaiah 6:8, Psalm 89:5-7 & John 9:4 is "RECENT"

Courz:
Oh yes. His argument against the formation of the Governing body was very correct in fact that is the only truth Fred Franz ever came up with. And Yes, anyone who makes such an argument will be disfellowshipped immediately.

achorladey:
No get sense peddling peddler cannot cover the double face of his religious organization. He wants to divert my post into his his usual organisation discussion that had been repeatedly made ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE . Show us in my post that those references does not show the DOUBLE FACE of you and your organisation


Now he said I am peddling MUMU . He wants to apply his profession to me. I no want am. Mumu peddling peddler

Courz:
The JWs in this thread are skipping this your post and are pretending they didn't see Watchtower disgrace them from your screenshot. Very funny thing to watch. Just show JWs where Watchtower went against their argument, they will go mute. Like that Janonsense fellow denying their Freemason brethren IBSA.

Janosky:
GIBBERISH for the dustbin.

Janosky:
Isaiah 6:8, Psalm 89:5-7 & John 9:4 is Sifia pains to for atheists, 3 deities worshippers and apostates.

achorladey:
You can see him hiding behind poor understanding of the Scriptures, super glue to myopia and asking irrelevant questions based on his archaic ideas to be mocked

achorladey:
You can see him hiding behind poor understanding of the Scriptures, super glue to myopia and asking irrelevant questions based on his archaic ideas to be mocked

Courz:
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.....

I shock when this dullard was busy denying IBSA. Not knowing Watchtower will disgrace him.

Janosky:
Achorladey done divert attention because Isaiah 6:8 & Psalm 89:5-7 , Jehovah God DESTROY Achorladey myopia.

Oga, enjoy your delusion and console yourself.

Even the leadership of Freemasonry are not swayed by your DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.

Courz:
Are you angry that your Former Freemason god the Former President of Watchtower kicked against the formation of governing body in a convention talk? Eya! Pele! It sucks to be a JW when your leaders contradict themselves. I understand.

achorladey:
See their mode of operation..........


They will first DENY or go into DENIAL ,.......... then go ahead and say that you are LYING............go further to abuse and insults........... then recant and accept or admit what you say is the TRUTH............. sometimes hide behind IMPERFECTIONS or RESERVATIONS to save their face.


Within a very short time they will repeat the process again

Janosky:
Inside your DELUDED head,shey?

achorladey:
Hide behind your IBERIBEISM, delusion and consolation peddling to save your face and that of your religious organization.

The post you responded to is not about leadership of Freemasonry

Courz:
Rinse and repeat like clockwork. Robotic. Watchtower robot! A very exhausting way to communicate with a person.

Courz:
Are you angry that your Former Freemason god the Former President of Watchtower kicked against the formation of governing body in a convention talk? Eya! Pele! It sucks to be a JW when your leaders contradict themselves. I understand.

achorladey:
You can see the post of the no get sense peddling peddler so far. Filled with repetition of scriptures that I have repeatedly shown to him does not support whatever he is propagating


They will keep recycling it continuously hoping and looking for who will fall for it.

Janosky:

Your own Bible Psalm 89:5-7 & Isaiah 6:8 shut down & exposed your myopia,nau you jump to another GIBBERISH to save face.

Oga,go & convince the leadership of Freemasonry with your GIBBERISH.

achorladey:
You can see the post of the no get sense peddling peddler so far. Filled with repetition of scriptures that I have repeatedly shown to him does not support whatever he is propagating


They will keep recycling it continuously hoping and looking for who will fall for it.

Janosky:
COURZ INFINITE DELUSION & IBERIBEISM is incurable.

Janosky:
Psalm 89:5-7 & Isaiah 6:8 na Sifia pains for atheists and 3 deities worshippers.
Dem wan console demselves.

achorladey:
Gibberish peddling peddler my post is not about Freemasonry leadership. The post you responded to had nothing to do with it. Save your face by hiding behind myopia or poor understanding of the Scriptures


You go run now......


Psalm 89:5-7

The heavens praise your marvels, O Jehovah, Yes, your faithfulness in the congregation of the holy ones 6 For who in the skies can compare to Jehovah?
Who among the sons of God is like Jehovah? 7 God is held in awe in the council of holy ones; He is grand and awe-inspiring to all who are around him.


Word for word show me "Jehovah’s organization" in that account?

Isaiah 6:8


Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”

Word for word show me "Jehovah’s organization" in that account?

Courz:
Are you serious? They dragged him away from the platform simply because he read a bible verse that Watchtower never quotes?
Isn't this proof that Watchtower is demonic? What is wrong with that bible verse? Wow! What is the title of the video?

Janosky:
Does the Hebrew words for "Congregation" or "Council" have meaning or synonyms ?
The screenshots PROVEN Achorladey SUPER GLUED TO MYOPIA.

Achorladey done divert attention because Isaiah 6:8 & Psalm 89:5-7 , Jehovah God DESTROY Achorladey myopia.

OgaNightmare:
Identifying with any man-made organization does not guarantee us salvation, that's the big mistake people make thinking that just being a member of a church is enough.
True Christians are identified not by wearing a crucifix or identifying with any denomination claiming to be the one and only
Christians are identified by their adherence to all of Christ's commandment and abstinence from anything that will prevent them from inheriting the kingdom.
Proclaiming a false goodnews (majority of the so-called Christian churches are guilty of this)
has grievous consequences. So we must be very careful of what we feed people with and make them believe.

Janosky:
All this one na empty tantrums.
It doesn't change anything about Isaiah 6:8 , Psalm 89:5-7 ,Acts 15:14-17, John 9:4 & Isaiah 43:10(ASV)
Jehovah is the Supreme C.E.O.
You are either working for Jehovah and His Organization, Isaiah 6:8, or you are not.

OgaNightmare:
E be like sey Janosky worse pass our intelligence officer oooo