₦airaland Forum

Wintertime:
Let them disqualify Obi and see the impact

YeyeGbami:
Make una send the donations to me , i go deliver.

GloriousGbola:
the irony is that APC and PDP can also play this game.

and it goes back to what has been said about LP and structure. all this skirting.testing of the law is because LP does not have the war chest to prosecute a nationwide election, inspite of all the crowds and all the youths who claim to be ready to vote for LP.

an election requires money and logistics.

Penguin2:
If I were to speak to any of Peter Obi handlers directly, I’d advise them not to grandstand on anything right now.

APC and PDP boys are looking for any little excuse they can get to rush to court and get Peter Obi disqualified.

They must thread very very carefully.

BurialGround:
WHT is your evidence that against Obi.

When APC and buhari was busy collecting foreign donations you didn't see it.

Obinoscopy:
So what's currently trending in the political sphere is the diaporan funding for Peter Obi and it being against the electoral act (section 85, subsection a and b).

Prior to now, it has never been an issue as Nigerian politicians source their funds majorly from other means. Some through illegal diversion of State funds while others through funding from the oligarchs and super wealthy who have vested interests in the government. The money politicians get from Nigerians in the diapora has been very meagre. Perhaps that explains why it never trended in the past. But with the emergence of Peter Obi, the story has changed as it would seem the Diasporans are ready to bankroll the Peter Obi campaign immensely.

Now the issue is that the electoral act is against funding political parties from abroad. So what that means is that the Labor Party are not meant to collect any money from anyone abroad. Any money collected will be forfeited and the party fined. Now what is the Labor Party's plan in regards ensuring they don't break this law.

I just watched the interview Prof Pat Utomi granted to Seun of Channels TV and I was surprised at Prof's response to this law. He was literally calling that law bluff. Based on his response, it would seem the plan of the Labor Party is to go ahead and collect monies from abroad and use it to fund their campaigns. That is very dangerous.

I must state it here that I share Prof Utomi's sentiment in regards to the funding as a way Nigerians can take back their country. I also agree that the law is a clog in the wheel of Ngerians in the diaspora who want to take back their country from the rich corrupt politicians. But I don't think it's wise to call the law bluff. This is because the law has constitutional backing. Section 225 (3) (a) and (b) of the constitution was very clear about funding from abroad. Going against the constitution is wrong as the courts will never support you.

So my advice to the Labor Party is that they assemble their legal team to study the law and seek for ways to raise funds without contravening the law. Perhaps one way, would be for an NGO or body that has no financial ties with the Labor Party be the one to champion the collection and disbursement of these Diaporan funds.

Now let's even look at the law and the purpose/intent of it. I think the reason behind the law is noble.....to prevent foreign influence on our country. A sovereign country can only remain sovereign if they are not influenced by any foreign country. I 100% agree with that. But I think that law was coined wrongly. Nigerians in diapora are not "foreigners". They are Nigerians. So even though they are abroad, they should be able to be contribute towards the growth of their country in every way possible. The law should be tweeked to prevent donations from foreigners/foreign countries and not prevent donations from Nigerian in diaspora.

Will the Labor Party call the law bluff? Will the constitution be amended? Will the Labor Party look for other ways to raise funds? Let's see how events unfold.

GloriousGbola:
so if nigerians based in Saudi Arabia, Dubai or iran suddenly contributed millions of dollars to APC or PDP, you would not see the issue? you would not say it was a plot to islamize nigeria?

if nigerians in China suddenly started pumping money into the election - you would not see it as a plot by China to influence the election?

how do you know those contributors are not proxies for foreign governments?

all Peter obi is doing is setting a very dangerous precedent. and rest assured, foreign governments are watching

i am sure you are following trumps scandal where he may have been trying to give away nuclear secrets to the Saudis

Obinoscopy:
So what's currently trending in the political sphere is the diasporan funding for Peter Obi and it being against the electoral act (section 85, subsection a and b).

Prior to now, it has never been an issue as Nigerian politicians source their funds majorly from other means. Some through illegal diversion of State funds while others through funding from the oligarchs and super wealthy who have vested interests in the government. The money politicians get from Nigerians in the diapora has been very meagre. Perhaps that explains why it never trended in the past. But with the emergence of Peter Obi, the story has changed as it would seem the Diasporans are ready to bankroll the Peter Obi campaign immensely.

Now the issue is that the electoral act is against funding political parties from abroad. So what that means is that the Labor Party are not meant to collect any money from anyone abroad. Any money collected will be forfeited and the party fined. Now what is the Labor Party's plan in regards ensuring they don't break this law.

I just watched the interview Prof Pat Utomi granted to Seun of Channels TV and I was surprised at Prof's response to this law. He was literally calling that law bluff. Based on his response, it would seem the plan of the Labor Party is to go ahead and collect monies from abroad and use it to fund their campaigns. That is very dangerous.

I must state it here that I share Prof Utomi's sentiment in regards to the funding as a way Nigerians can take back their country. I also agree that the law is a clog in the wheel of Nigerians in the diaspora who want to take back their country from the rich corrupt politicians. But I don't think it's wise to call the law bluff. This is because the law has constitutional backing. Section 225 (3) (a) and (b) of the constitution was very clear about funding from abroad. Going against the constitution is wrong as the courts will never support you.

So my advice to the Labor Party is that they assemble their legal team to study the law and seek for ways to raise funds without contravening the law. Perhaps one way, would be for an NGO or body that has no financial ties with the Labor Party be the one to champion the collection and disbursement of these Diasporan funds.

Now let's even look at the law and the purpose/intent of it. I think the reason behind the law is noble.....to prevent foreign influence on our country. A sovereign country can only remain sovereign if they are not influenced by any foreign country. I 100% agree with that. But I think that law was coined wrongly. Nigerians in diapora are not "foreigners". They are Nigerians. So even though they are abroad, they should be able to be contribute towards the growth of their country in every way possible. The law should be tweeked to prevent donations from foreigners/foreign countries and not prevent donations from Nigerian in diaspora.

Will the Labor Party call the law bluff? Will the constitution be amended? Will the Labor Party look for other ways to raise funds? Let's see how events unfold.

Obinoscopy:
I 100% agree with you but I think individual contributions within Nigeria should also be capped as money laundering can also take place within Nigeria.

AdolfHitlerxXx:


Loved Obinoscopys piece on Tinubu... was an impartial take.

Let's read this one..

Modified: balanced and unbiased.

I personally feel Obi wants to cash out on the gullible zombidients.

That's why someone who wants to be a President and Law Enforcer will blatantly want to break the law to line his pockets .

Ole, Barawo banza. Thief!

beelon1020:
The law is the king of the land... you break it.. you face it’s wrath...

Dsalvo:
@OP.

This is the thing with you Igbos. Always reactionary and always about what you want alone and specifically when you want it

Is it today some of us have been calling for change in the laws to allow diasporan Nigerians have a legal and electoral say in Nigerian politics?


I forget you lot were too busy calling Nigeria a "Zoo" and disturbing us with Biafra and IPOB idiocy to care back then when the rest of us were speaking up for the big picture.

Today Obi is running you start a stupid thread to discuss how a long standing situation many had complained of, yet you were never interested in, now affects Obi adversely.

This is why I call you Igbos a "food is ready" people. You are not interested in agitating for what is best for everyone consistently and always.

You will only get involved in any agitation to chase your own myopic and selfish interest at that specific point in time.

Those who fought for the best humanity enjoy today, be it democracy or abolition of slavery, are never like you cynical, myopic and opportunist Igbos.

If you can, show me even one great initiative/fight for democracy, peaceful union, progressive ideal or nationally benevolent initiative Igbos have ever championed.

You lot have nothing to offer per inspired, benevolent, selfless and visionary leadership of a diverse society and people.

It is just not in your nature and Nigerians know this. I expect that to reflect, beyond the social media noise, in a thoroughly disappointing showing for Obi at the polls.

Bookmark this thread.

Obinoscopy:
So what's currently trending in the political sphere is the diasporan funding for Peter Obi and it being against the electoral act (section 85, subsection a and b).

Prior to now, it has never been an issue as Nigerian politicians source their funds majorly from other means. Some through illegal diversion of State funds while others through funding from the oligarchs and super wealthy who have vested interests in the government. The money politicians get from Nigerians in the diapora has been very meagre. Perhaps that explains why it never trended in the past. But with the emergence of Peter Obi, the story has changed as it would seem the Diasporans are ready to bankroll the Peter Obi campaign immensely.

Now the issue is that the electoral act is against funding political parties from abroad. So what that means is that the Labor Party are not meant to collect any money from anyone abroad. Any money collected will be forfeited and the party fined. Now what is the Labor Party's plan in regards ensuring they don't break this law.

I just watched the interview Prof Pat Utomi granted to Seun of Channels TV and I was surprised at Prof's response to this law. He was literally calling that law bluff. Based on his response, it would seem the plan of the Labor Party is to go ahead and collect monies from abroad and use it to fund their campaigns. That is very dangerous.

I must state it here that I share Prof Utomi's sentiment in regards to the funding as a way Nigerians can take back their country. I also agree that the law is a clog in the wheel of Nigerians in the diaspora who want to take back their country from the rich corrupt politicians. But I don't think it's wise to call the law bluff. This is because the law has constitutional backing. Section 225 (3) (a) and (b) of the constitution was very clear about funding from abroad. Going against the constitution is wrong as the courts will never support you.

So my advice to the Labor Party is that they assemble their legal team to study the law and seek for ways to raise funds without contravening the law. Perhaps one way, would be for an NGO or body that has no financial ties with the Labor Party be the one to champion the collection and disbursement of these Diasporan funds.

Now let's even look at the law and the purpose/intent of it. I think the reason behind the law is noble.....to prevent foreign influence on our country. A sovereign country can only remain sovereign if they are not influenced by any foreign country. I 100% agree with that. But I think that law was coined wrongly. Nigerians in diapora are not "foreigners". They are Nigerians. So even though they are abroad, they should be able to be contribute towards the growth of their country in every way possible. The law should be tweeked to prevent donations from foreigners/foreign countries and not prevent donations from Nigerian in diaspora.

Will the Labor Party call the law bluff? Will the constitution be amended? Will the Labor Party look for other ways to raise funds? Let's see how events unfold.

ImperialYoruba:
How do you know if a $1million remittance is by a Nigerian or a foreigner?

Alfred Smith, a non-Nigerian can send $500,000 contribution posing as Bola Alabi. How do you authenticate?

jerk:
Jerk's father is as senseless as him
senseless

Dsalvo:
What will be the impact? Your IPOB seccession messiah did not end up in custody even as you lot shouted "touch Kanu and Nigeria burns"?
So far it is only the SE burning.

So too will your IPOB political Messiah, i.e Obi, be dealt with if he tries to be cute circumventing laws other candidates are complying with and happy to obey.

You people are always too lawless and desperate. No one is going to change laws and legality, currently in place, for Obi and his loser Labour Party.

In any case, why can't you Obidient donate? Even Nnewi businessmen alone should be able to dash Obi ten trillion Naira na. Chicken change Obi Cubana alone can donate. Lol.

Obinoscopy:
That same Alfred Smith can send the money to a proxy (whose real is Bola Alabi) in Nigeria who will then pay into the Political Party’s account, how do you authenticate? Let us not go there. Every political party is supposed to send their financial records for auditing. Anomalies and or laundering can be detected if INEC does their due diligence during auditing.

Dsalvo:
What will be the impact? Your IPOB seccession messiah did not end up in custody even as you lot shouted "touch Kanu and Nigeria burns"?
So far it is only the SE burning.

So too will your IPOB political Messiah, i.e Obi, be dealt with if he tries to be cute circumventing laws other candidates are complying with and happy to obey.

You people are always too lawless and desperate. No one is going to change laws and legality, currently in place, for Obi and his loser Labour Party.

In any case, why can't you Obidient donate? Even Nnewi businessmen alone should be able to dash Obi ten trillion Naira na. Chicken change Obi Cubana alone can donate. Lol. The joke is on you. At least you know cubana, who knows you?

Penguin2:
If I were to speak to any of Peter Obi handlers directly, I’d advise them not to grandstand on anything right now.

APC and PDP boys are looking for any little excuse they can get to rush to court and get Peter Obi disqualified.

They must thread very very carefully.

missionmex:
author=Dsalvo post=116364415]@OP.

This is the thing with you Igbos. Always reactionary and always about what you want alone and specifically when you want it

Is it today some of us have been calling for change in the laws to allow diasporan Nigerians have a legal and electoral say in Nigerian politics?


I forget you lot were too busy calling Nigeria a "Zoo" and disturbing us with Biafra and IPOB idiocy to care back then when the rest of us were speaking up for the big picture.

Today Obi is running you start a stupid thread to discuss how a long standing situation many had complained of, yet you were never interested in, now affects Obi adversely.

This is why I call you Igbos a "food is ready" people. You are not interested in agitating for what is best for everyone consistently and always.

You will only get involved in any agitation to chase your own myopic and selfish interest at that specific point in time.

Those who fought for the best humanity enjoy today, be it democracy or abolition of slavery, are never like you cynical, myopic and opportunist Igbos.

If you can, show me even one great initiative/fight for democracy, peaceful union, progressive ideal or nationally benevolent initiative Igbos have ever championed.

You lot have nothing to offer per inspired, benevolent, selfless and visionary leadership of a diverse society and people.

It is just not in your nature and Nigerians know this. I expect that to reflect, beyond the social media noise, in a thoroughly disappointing showing for Obi at the polls.

Bookmark this thread.

kristisking:
And someone will be there shouting Obi/Datti here and there. Please what makes this duo better than the rest of the politicians. Were they not part of the people that put this country in this mess? They have tasted power under PDP, APC, APGA. Did they do any magic? I need to know? Why all this noise here and there.

Obinoscopy:
So what's currently trending in the political sphere is the diasporan funding for Peter Obi and it being against the electoral act (section 85, subsection a and b).

Prior to now, it has never been an issue as Nigerian politicians source their funds majorly from other means. Some through illegal diversion of State funds while others through funding from the oligarchs and super wealthy who have vested interests in the government. The money politicians get from Nigerians in the diapora has been very meagre. Perhaps that explains why it never trended in the past. But with the emergence of Peter Obi, the story has changed as it would seem the Diasporans are ready to bankroll the Peter Obi campaign immensely.

Now the issue is that the electoral act is against funding political parties from abroad. So what that means is that the Labor Party are not meant to collect any money from anyone abroad. Any money collected will be forfeited and the party fined. Now what is the Labor Party's plan in regards ensuring they don't break this law.

I just watched the interview Prof Pat Utomi granted to Seun of Channels TV and I was surprised at Prof's response to this law. He was literally calling that law bluff. Based on his response, it would seem the plan of the Labor Party is to go ahead and collect monies from abroad and use it to fund their campaigns. That is very dangerous.

I must state it here that I share Prof Utomi's sentiment in regards to the funding as a way Nigerians can take back their country. I also agree that the law is a clog in the wheel of Nigerians in the diaspora who want to take back their country from the rich corrupt politicians. But I don't think it's wise to call the law bluff. This is because the law has constitutional backing. Section 225 (3) (a) and (b) of the constitution was very clear about funding from abroad. Going against the constitution is wrong as the courts will never support you.

So my advice to the Labor Party is that they assemble their legal team to study the law and seek for ways to raise funds without contravening the law. Perhaps one way, would be for an NGO or body that has no financial ties with the Labor Party be the one to champion the collection and disbursement of these Diasporan funds.

Now let's even look at the law and the purpose/intent of it. I think the reason behind the law is noble.....to prevent foreign influence on our country. A sovereign country can only remain sovereign if they are not influenced by any foreign country. I 100% agree with that. But I think that law was coined wrongly. Nigerians in diapora are not "foreigners". They are Nigerians. So even though they are abroad, they should be able to be contribute towards the growth of their country in every way possible. The law should be tweeked to prevent donations from foreigners/foreign countries and not prevent donations from Nigerian in diaspora.

Will the Labor Party call the law bluff? Will the constitution be amended? Will the Labor Party look for other ways to raise funds? Let's see how events unfold.