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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:06pm On Sep 07, 2022
wirinet:
Tax fraud or tax avoidance just like Trump?


Transporting hookers for his personal needs or for pimping? Explain further with links and criminal statutes. Trump was also famed for patronising hookers.



Evidence. EVIDENCE EVIDENCE . Jared Krushner and Ivanka Trump also had extensive dealings in China and the Middle East.
They don't have a defense for it. That's why they are trying their best to project their failings onto others so as to create their alternate reality.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:08pm On Sep 07, 2022
Seems I'm making a change

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by CoolUsername: 8:25pm On Sep 07, 2022
basilico:
California went heavily into green , Now they are begging people to conserve power as renewables are fluctuating

Propose to ban sale of gas powered engines 2035.
The climate crisis just like the COVID-19 crates tyrants making orders right left and center.
It more or less looks like saddism to me. Nothing stops them from ordering smart thermostats that can be remotely managed if people flout their advice
Wait, so if everyone 'pre-cools' before 4pm won't they just be straining the grid at that time?

Furthermore, isn't it just flat out inefficient? The greater temperature differential between the inside of the home and outside environment, the more the heat transfer. The house would heat up pretty quickly.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by CoolUsername: 8:27pm On Sep 07, 2022
wirinet:
Till today, the MAGA crowd have failed to quote the actual crime Hunter Biden committed. What statutes of the US criminal code are they him accusing of breaking? Sitting on a board of a foreign company is not against US laws. Being a drug addict is not a criminal offence. Patronising prostitutes is also not a crime and definite having an affair with your dead brothers wife is certainly not a crime. What exactly do they want FBI to investigate?
They tried to blackmail Ukraine to investigate Biden (for a crime they did not even specify) Zelensky refused, as he was not interested in getting involved with US politics. They are now blackmailing the FBI to investigate his laptop. A laptop allegedly stolen from his repairer.

These MAGAs are something else. They behave like mindless demons.
What about crack possession
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:28pm On Sep 07, 2022
This is so lovely, top tier.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:36pm On Sep 07, 2022
CoolUsername:
Wait, so if everyone 'pre-cools' before 4pm won't they just be straining the grid at that time?

Furthermore, isn't it just flat out inefficient? The greater temperature differential between the inside of the home and outside environment, the more the heat transfer. The house would heat up pretty quickly.
The left has been shutting down gas powered stations and investing a lot in green energy. To save planet earth from this climate "crisis"
The left feels good about that

Today they have switched on emergency generators to cope with the load.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:42pm On Sep 07, 2022
wirinet:
Tax fraud or tax avoidance just like Trump?


Transporting hookers for his personal needs or for pimping? Explain further with links and criminal statutes. Trump was also famed for patronising hookers.



Evidence. EVIDENCE EVIDENCE . Jared Krushner and Ivanka Trump also had extensive dealings in China and the Middle East.
Jared Kushner.provide evidence he was peddling influence on behalf of foreigners.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:53pm On Sep 07, 2022
basilico:
Jared Kushner.provide evidence he was peddling influence on behalf of foreigners.
Are you this honest? huh Exactly what Kushner did with the $2bn Saudi loan and Mnuchin $1bn Saudi grant. Kushner that opened a back chanel communication with Russia. Kushner paid off his 666 building loan due to strong arming Qatar. When kushner held Qatar to the throat, it was clear. Then in no time he's covered up his loans.

What about ivanka who had patents for election machines that were made in China. Care to find out?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
CoolUsername:
Wait, so if everyone 'pre-cools' before 4pm won't they just be straining the grid at that time?

Furthermore, isn't it just flat out inefficient? The greater temperature differential between the inside of the home and outside environment, the more the heat transfer. The house would heat up pretty quickly.
You fell for basilico's mischievous post. The tweet Basilico screenshot did not mention anything about green but trust Basilico to throw that in his post to advance his own agenda of climate crisis.

Alot of places of employment start closing at 4pm, and some as early as 3pm if the employee is on a flex time schedule. There's usually more demand for electricity at the start of peak hours i.e. people returning from work to turn on electric range, turn on AC, turn on laundry, turn on dishwashers charge their devices e.t.c..

In California and many other US states, the peak demand period is generally defined as the hours between 4pm to 9pm. By 6.30 to 7pm, sunset starts and the house remains cool for the rest of the night till maybe 11am the next day. So, it's not a bad idea to cool the house just before peak since the house would retain the coolness after sunset.

Green or no green power, It's common in developed countries for power companies to advice customers to use appliances that draw lots of power outside peak hours. Some power companies also charge higher tariff during peak hours to mitigate stress on electrical networks. So it's a win-win for both customer and company if heavy demand can be moved outside the leak hours. Customer saves money, while power company spends less money on maintenance.

Here is Tesla advising it's customer in Texas about the same peak/off peak usage in the attached screenshot. I wonder if Texas is mostly running on green energy too like California as mentioned by our man Basilico.

https://energyupgradeca.org/flex-alert?utm_source=aw&utm_medium=paid-search&utm_campaign=2022-fa-al&utm_term=gm-en-all-ca&utm_content=fa-outage

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 9:13pm On Sep 07, 2022
Obrigardo:
Seems I'm making a change
Nice.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:20pm On Sep 07, 2022
CoolUsername:
What about crack possession
Is crack possession a criminal offense? What is termed a felony is drug possession for the purpose of sale, transportation or distribution and not for personal use.
Besides was crack ever found in Hunter Biden's possession? You expect the FBI to prosecute Joe Biden for his purposely stolen laptop showing a photo (or was it a video) showing him under the influence of drug in his personal space?

You guys even expect the FBI to investigate and prosecute Hunter Biden for sleeping with a hooker in his own bedroom or hotel.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 9:28pm On Sep 07, 2022
Obrigardo:
This is so lovely, top tier.
---Trump is so jealous of Obama not to allow this to happen during his administration---beautiful portrait worthy of 44 and Michelle---

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:35pm On Sep 07, 2022
saxywale2:
Nice.
Gracias kiss
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:35pm On Sep 07, 2022
basilico:
Jared Kushner.provide evidence he was peddling influence on behalf of foreigners.
Here

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:37pm On Sep 07, 2022
We still haven't heard from any Republican, the right wing chamber has been eerily silent.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:37pm On Sep 07, 2022
wirinet:
Is crack possession a criminal offense? What is termed a felony is drug possession for the purpose of sale, transportation or distribution and not for personal use.
Besides was crack ever found in Hunter Biden's possession? You expect the FBI to prosecute Joe Biden for his purposely stolen laptop showing a photo (or was it a video) showing him under the influence of drug in his personal space?

You guys even expect the FBI to investigate and prosecute Hunter Biden for sleeping with a hooker in his own bedroom or hotel.
You are so ignorant and closed minded. Joe Biden passed law on crack possession. 5 years, and confiscate your property


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KV7MlUaCNI
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:40pm On Sep 07, 2022
wirinet:
Here
We read our minds
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:44pm On Sep 07, 2022
wirinet:
Here
She already had business there.Why would China not fast track knowing Trump was about to come hard on them.
And you need to provide evidence for this claim about the patent being fast tracked

Influence peddling. Hunter was getting to introduce Chinese moguls to big people in govt, in return for deals. That's foreign lobbying.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 9:50pm On Sep 07, 2022
---Lies---Politics---and Democracy---a PBS documentary about peaceful transfer of power in U.S. politics---


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zuWZCvdIvw
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:01pm On Sep 07, 2022
basilico:
You are so ignorant and closed minded. Joe Biden passed law on crack possession. 5 years, and confiscate your property


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KV7MlUaCNI
I will tolerate your obsession with Hunter Biden today.

First of all the law on drugs always applies to possession with intent to sell, transport and distribute and not to possession for use or consumption. Users are considered addicts by law and not criminals.

Secondly, in the video you posted, there is no evidence that Hunter Biden was smoking crack, cocaine or any of the other hard drugs. There was no way to ascertain the exact drug he was taking.

Thirdly, even if the FBI decicides foolishly to prosecute Hunter Biden, where is the physical evidence to present to a jury? A video from unknown source, location and time would not pass in a law court without any physical evidence.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:08pm On Sep 07, 2022
wirinet:
I will tolerate your obsession with Hunter Biden today.

First of all the law on drugs always applies to possession with intent to sell, transport and distribute and not to possession for use or consumption. Users are considered addicts by law and not criminals.

Secondly, in the video you posted, there is no evidence that Hunter Biden was smoking crack, cocaine or any of the other hard drugs. There was no way to ascertain the exact drug he was taking.

Thirdly, even if the FBI decicides foolishly to prosecute Hunter Biden, where is the physical evidence to present to a jury? A video from unknown source, location and time would not pass in a law court without any physical evidence.
So fixated on whitewashing the bidens. The FB doesnot indict serious democrats of late.
My problem is Joe , the FBI refuse to investigate Jim for potential crimes or kompromat
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
basilico:
So fixated on whitewashing the bidens. The FB doesnot indict serious democrats of late.
My problem is Joe , the FBI refuse to investigate Jim for potential crimes or kompromat
What's your problem with Joe? You accuse the FBI of not investigating Jim, Hunter and all other Bidens, but you are yet to specify Joe's crimes. The FBI can't be wasting time investigating personal and moral sins of citizens. They have to present their evidence and convince a jury of 12 people. If they cannot proof a crime beyond all reasonable doubt, it will be a waste of investigative and judicial time to bring flimsy evidence before a jury. That's why after two years of investigation by Republican led Senate and the FBI, the FBI was not confident enough to take Hilary Clinton before a judge and jury.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
wirinet:
What's your problem with Joe? You accuse the FBI of not investigating Jim, Hunter and all other Bidens, but you are yet to specify Joe's crimes. The FBI can't be wasting time investigating personal and moral sins of citizens. They have to present their evidence and convince a jury of 12 people. If they cannot proof a crime beyond all reasonable doubt, it will be a waste of investigative and judicial time to bring flimsy evidence before a jury. That's why after two years of investigation by Republican led Senate and the FBI, the FBI was not confident enough to take Hilary Clinton before a judge and jury.
MSM has really pulled a number on you. Just another statistic of those who believe CNN
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Obrigardo:
Are you this honest? huh Exactly what Kushner did with the $2bn Saudi loan and Mnuchin $1bn Saudi grant. Kushner that opened a back chanel communication with Russia. Kushner paid off his 666 building loan due to strong arming Qatar. When kushner held Qatar to the throat, it was clear. Then in no time he's covered up his loans.

What about ivanka who had patents for election machines that were made in China. Care to find out?
provide links. Especially the back channel to Russia. why would a president elect create back channels
I have checked those are loans to be repaid at the end.
As for patents is there any other person who took a shorter time than Ivanka to obtain them. How long should it take to get a Chinese patent?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 8:26am On Sep 08, 2022
feedthenation:
---clearly [b]Trump is going to put these perfect nuclear documents in his library---perfectly innocent---wonder why 'they' are picking on him---[/b]

---The former head of the CIA said the nuclear documents (include info about other countries nuke) found at Trump’s resort are so secretive they are kept in a safe inside the SCIF---not just in the SCIF---in a safe inside the SCIF---
@Bolded That's the problem with you Trump haters. You always think you know what Trump is going to do the next minute, in the end you presume or assume he's committed a crime without any evidence to show for. Wasn't that how y'all assumed he colluded with Russia in the first place and started a probe over nothing only to discover that Dems and Hillary were the ones who were actually in collusion with Russia.
Trump is going to do this, Trump is going to do that grin grin You just know what he's going to do with "nuclear documents" whatever term the Mainstream Media calls it, that's were you feed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:06am On Sep 08, 2022
obixcel:
@Bolded That's the problem with you Trump haters. You always think you know what Trump is going to do the next minute, in the end you presume or assume he's committed a crime without any evidence to show for. Wasn't that how y'all assumed he colluded with Russia in the first place and started a probe over nothing only to discover that Dems and Hillary were the ones who were actually in collusion with Russia.
Trump is going to do this, Trump is going to do that grin grin You just know what he's going to do with "nuclear documents" whatever term the Mainstream Media calls it, that's were you feed
The media and big tech is all out to soil Trumps name. Pelosi sham commision is one sided . DOJ has gone after most close advisors... Michael Cohen, Bannon, Giuliani, Navarro, Flynn, Literally most people in his close circles. I keep wondering why they are so intent on keeping him from running again in 2024. why does he pose such a threat to them that they have to manufacture lies. Notice how they all use the same keywords. Big Lie, baseless, etc
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:34am On Sep 08, 2022
budaatum:
Russia selling them stuff, yes. But Russia buying shells and renting armies from tyrants who are struggling to buy what they need? That's struggling.

Russia will be buying food from starving NK soon and it would indicate sanctions not working, to you.
They are no struggling to buy what they need even if you are being told that.

Russia have never entered the market to buy western made weapons. If they want materials for weapons, they can use proxies to buy it evading sanctions. Iran use same method to sell oil.

Besides, Russia is still heavily capable as they don't use their best tech and weapons on wars like this.

China as well think it is in their best interest for Russia to be a formidable force and continues to be because a friend indeed is a friend in need.

With China around, sanction will hardly stick these days and you have nations who tries to stay in the middle like India. They are benefit from the sanctions. They still buy Russian oil for a good deal now.

While EU buys indirectly for higher cost.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 10:51am On Sep 08, 2022
basilico:
The media and big tech is all out to soil Trumps name. Pelosi sham commision is one sided . DOJ has gone after most close advisors... Michael Cohen, Bannon, Giuliani, Navarro, Flynn, Literally most people in his close circles. I keep wondering why they are so intent on keeping him from running again in 2024. why does he pose such a threat to them that they have to manufacture lies. Notice how they all use the same keywords. Big Lie, baseless, etc
Nothing scares Democrats and the far left than seeing Trump return to the White House. It's every Dem's nightmare - what literally keeps them up at night grin grin That is why they weaponized the DOJ to go after Trump. The end game is just to create a cloud of uncertainty over Trump and live it hanging long enough over his head so that the American people will view or judge him as unelectable. The DOJ & FBI have been compromised from top to bottom.

One thing I know is that after they've all tried and done their worst against Trump, he will be vindicated in the end. I predict that before 2024 their last ditch attempt to stop Trump from running will be to assassinate him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:04am On Sep 08, 2022
obixcel:
Nothing scares Democrats and the far left than seeing Trump return to the White House. It's every Dem's nightmare - what literally keeps them up at night grin grin That is why they weaponized the DOJ to go after Trump. The end game is just to create a cloud of uncertainty over Trump and live it hanging long enough over his head so that the American people will view or judge him as unelectable. The DOJ & FBI have been compromised from top to bottom.

One thing I know is that after they've all tried and done their worst against Trump, he will be vindicated in the end. I predict that before 2024 their last ditch attempt to stop Trump from running will be to assassinate him.
The question is Why are they so afraid of Trump? Because he wont start wars or wot?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m):
basilico:
The question is Why are they so afraid of Trump? Because he wont start wars or wot?
Trump has never and will never start or give the war machines any war they'd love to get into. He promised "Peace through Strength", strengthened the military like never before. But he only used the American military strength as a deterrence to American enemies. When you add to the fact that even Putin couldn't read Trump cos of his unpredictable nature. Trump was able to keep America from needless war - the very first to do so despite Democrats' fear mongering that Trump would go to war. The opposite was the case.

The reason why they are afraid of Trump is the same reason they were afraid of him running for Office in 2016. That hasn't changed. It's because Trump is not like them - the typical Establishment Politicians (whether it's Dems. Or Republicans), Trump was never going to allow himself to be controlled by them to do their bidding, and he's not a globalist. Before Trump came Whether a politician is a Democrat or Republican (E.g Clinton, Bush, Obama) there has always been an Established Order of doing things in Washington, whether it relates to War, the Economy, International trading, dealings with Russia and China, Foreign Policy etc. This Established Pattern or Status quo of operation has impoverished middle class Americans, only the elites have been beneficiaries. Trump came and changed all of that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:17pm On Sep 08, 2022
obixcel:
Trump has never and will never start or give the war machines any war they'd love to get into. He promised "Peace through Strength", strengthened the military like never before. But he only used the American military strength as a deterrence to American enemies. When you add to the fact that even Putin couldn't read Trump cos of his unpredictable nature. Trump was able to keep America from needless war - the very first to do so despite Democrats' fear mongering that Trump would go to war. The opposite was the case.

The reason why they are afraid of Trump is the same reason they were afraid of him running for Office in 2016. That hasn't changed. It's because Trump is not like them - the typical Establishment Politicians (whether it's Dems. Or Republicans), Trump would refuse to be controlled by them, and he's not a globalist.
Exactly. Looks like there is a lot of corruption in DC. All that money going to Ukraine to fuel a war. Is it really all going there or some of it is being kicked back?

Of late democrats say any blatant lie and they know half the country willl believe once they cordinate with the media, For instance Joe Biden says he knew nothing about his sons deals , yet there is a photo of him with the business partners. Some here believe that lie because media gives it a total blackout.
On the first day a journalist claimed that Trump had removed a bust of Churchill from the oval office which was a total lie. Media ran away with that lie, they never retracted after the lie was debunked.
From day one Trump has been attacked relentlessly by democrats, media and Big Tech,
Adam Schiff claimed so many times that the evidence of the Russia hoax was overwhelming
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 12:37pm On Sep 08, 2022
basilico:
Exactly. Looks like there is a lot of corruption in DC. All that money going to Ukraine to fuel a war. Is it really all going there or some of it is being kicked back?

Of late democrats say any blatant lie and they know half the country willl believe once they cordinate with the media, For instance Joe Biden says he knew nothing about his sons deals , yet there is a photo of him with the business partners. Some here believe that lie because media gives it a total blackout.
On the first day a journalist claimed that Trump had removed a bust of Churchill from the oval office which was a total lie. Media ran away with that lie, they never retracted after the lie was debunked.
From day one Trump has been attacked relentlessly by democrats, media and Big Tech,
Adam Schiff claimed so many times that the evidence of the Russia hoax was overwhelming
What haven't we seen for the past 4-6 yrs. They claim Trump was racist, they said he was a "foreign agent" in the White house - a Putin asset, they claimed He was an illegitimate President and stole the election via Collusion with Russia (Putin) etc I can go on and on - we all know the story.

The issue with the Russia-Ukraine War is that the Establishment Republicans and Democrats are milking it while they can, churning out Billions of Dollars and sending them to Ukraine. Of course they get huge kick backs, cash backs, call it whatever. They are enriching themselves while virtue signalling like they are doing some righteous thing or being on the right side of history in their support for Ukraine. The whole thing is deception.
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