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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:09pm On Sep 08, 2022
basilico:


How did Americans react when Russians brought their missiles to Cuba? If you neighbor is a burglar do you want him renting next to you?
You speak as if I support the antagonisation of Russia, which I don't. Ukraine however, is a sovereign nation that elected a president which Russia did not like and deposed and installed their own person in Ukraine who then got voted out for a person whom the people wanted. If they then choose then to join NATO, that is their sovereign democratic right and choice which Russia has not legal right to oppose.

If the burglar is my neighbour, they must already rent or own property near to mine, so I'd be shutting the gate after the horse has bolted if I'm objecting after they become my neighbour. That said, if the landlord who owns the neighbouring property wants to rent it to my neighbour who is a burglar, I have no right opposing either of them. I can of course rent the house myself, paying more than my neighbour who is a burglar wants to rent it for to keep my neighbour who is a burglar out, but god help me if my neighbour who is a burglar offers much more because they are competent at their burglary profession or if the landlord of the neighbouring house is a member of the same gang as my neighbour who is a burglar, though you need to wonder what I be doing living in my property and renting the neighbouring property too.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:14pm On Sep 08, 2022
obixcel:
Wow!! She aged gracefully indeed

---an all time interesting story about the Her Majesty, The Queen---


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw9g1Q74t4s
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:34pm On Sep 08, 2022
saxywale2:
Steve Bannon is in custody. He is charged in NY with two counts of money laundering, three counts of conspiracy & one count of scheming to defraud.


--Steven Bannon on his prep walk to jail---


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1d6RXhc54s

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:37am On Sep 09, 2022
budaatum:


Basilico! Written agreements are rewritten, so why would you expect an unwritten agreement to be cast in stone unless you are naive?

Because there is no official agreement between Beijing and Washington about Taiwan.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale2: 1:43am On Sep 09, 2022
Establishment Republican vs MAGA Republican

Donald Trump reportedly threatened to sue Fox News Thursday after the network aired a “advertisement” about him from the Lincoln Project.

Ps: DOJ has appealed special master ruling


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0vPIo9eyY

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:53am On Sep 09, 2022
budaatum:

You speak as if I support the antagonisation of Russia, which I don't. Ukraine however, is a sovereign nation that elected a president which Russia did not like and deposed and installed their own person in Ukraine who then got voted out for a person whom the people wanted. If they then choose then to join NATO, that is their sovereign democratic right and choice which Russia has not legal right to oppose.

If the burglar is my neighbour, they must already rent or own property near to mine, so I'd be shutting the gate after the horse has bolted if I'm objecting after they become my neighbour. That said, if the landlord who owns the neighbouring property wants to rent it to my neighbour who is a burglar, I have no right opposing either of them. I can of course rent the house myself, paying more than my neighbour who is a burglar wants to rent it for to keep my neighbour who is a burglar out, but god help me if my neighbour who is a burglar offers much more because they are competent at their burglary profession or if the landlord of the neighbouring house is a member of the same gang as my neighbour who is a burglar, though you need to wonder what I be doing living in my property and renting the neighbouring property too.

US did not want a Russian base in Cuba nearly bringing the world to the brink of a nuclear war then
Whats so important to them setting up base in Ukraine.

When you have time watch this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:54am On Sep 09, 2022
basilico:


Because there is no official agreement between Beijing and Washington about Taiwan.

Which is why any agreement between Beijing and Washington can easily be ripped up if the need arises.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:57am On Sep 09, 2022
saxywale2:
Establishment Republican vs MAGA Republican

Donald Trump reportedly threatened to sue Fox News Thursday after the network aired a “advertisement” about him from the Lincoln Project.

Ps: DOJ has appealed special master ruling


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0vPIo9eyY

Dump should sue Lincoln Project for libel if he believes they slandered him grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:35am On Sep 09, 2022
basilico:


US did not want a Russian base in Cuba nearly bringing the world to the brink of a nuclear war then
Whats so important to them setting up base in Ukraine.

When you have time watch this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE

So, Russia needs Ukraine to be it's puppet and buffer from Europe. And Russia does not want gas rich Ukraine to compete with it. Unfortunately for Russia, Ukraine is not playing ball, so Russia invades.

Can you see why Ukraine might want to fight back and why NATO might want to help them?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:59am On Sep 09, 2022
Since you seem to trust this source, perhaps you'd trust them on how sanctions are affecting Russia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLyUeKa2jzY

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 12:22pm On Sep 09, 2022
basilico:




provide links. Especially the back channel to Russia. why would a president elect create back channels
I have checked those are loans to be repaid at the end.
As for patents is there any other person who took a shorter time than Ivanka to obtain them. How long should it take to get a Chinese patent?

You expect me to waste my time on you. When I give you links with reports, you'll say it's planted lol

You've seen the reports and you already know. So get lost

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 12:25pm On Sep 09, 2022
saxywale2:
Establishment Republican vs MAGA Republican

Donald Trump reportedly threatened to sue Fox News Thursday after the network aired a “advertisement” about him from the Lincoln Project.

Ps: DOJ has appealed special master ruling


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0vPIo9eyY

Who made them "establishment" people and what does that even mean? If it means Sane people with clear minds then I'm cool with it but labeling people who are regaining their sense and a mixture of sensible people establishment is disingenuous.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 12:29pm On Sep 09, 2022
budaatum:

You speak as if I support the antagonisation of Russia, which I don't. Ukraine however, is a sovereign nation that elected a president which Russia did not like and deposed and installed their own person in Ukraine who then got voted out for a person whom the people wanted. If they then choose then to join NATO, that is their sovereign democratic right and choice which Russia has not legal right to oppose.

If the burglar is my neighbour, they must already rent or own property near to mine, so I'd be shutting the gate after the horse has bolted if I'm objecting after they become my neighbour. That said, if the landlord who owns the neighbouring property wants to rent it to my neighbour who is a burglar, I have no right opposing either of them. I can of course rent the house myself, paying more than my neighbour who is a burglar wants to rent it for to keep my neighbour who is a burglar out, but god help me if my neighbour who is a burglar offers much more because they are competent at their burglary profession or if the landlord of the neighbouring house is a member of the same gang as my neighbour who is a burglar, though you need to wonder what I be doing living in my property and renting the neighbouring property too.

I still don't understand why someone in his right thinking mind will argue against this. I've said time and time again these maga cultists will do all they can to justify the hate in their heart. It is pure hate and nothing else. Do well to know the foundation of all their obfuscation and misinformations.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:34pm On Sep 09, 2022
budaatum:


Which is why any agreement between Beijing and Washington can easily be ripped up if the need arises.

The unwritten agreement is that US will protect Taiwan if China decides to invade. Nowhere is it written but it is understood


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaRnlsyhD7M

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:44pm On Sep 09, 2022
Obrigardo:


You expect me to waste my time on you. When I give you links with reports, you'll say it's planted lol

You've seen the reports and you already know. So get lost

Links from politico, thehill, cnn, nyt, wapo are just hot air and full of lies. So do many opinion polls and factcheckers like factcheck, snopes or reuters.
I go through them knowing they are full of lies
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:21pm On Sep 09, 2022
Obrigardo:


I still don't understand why someone in his right thinking mind will argue against this. I've said time and time again these maga cultists will do all they can to justify the hate in their heart. It is pure hate and nothing else. Do well to know the foundation of all their obfuscation and misinformations.

The foundation of Basilico's obfuscation and misinformations is his dislike of America and democracy, and the desire for a dictator who imposes his will even if he's fleecing magas undercover.

I think they refused him visa and he's been bitter ever since.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:40pm On Sep 09, 2022
basilico:


The unwritten agreement is that US will protect Taiwan if China decides to invade. Nowhere is it written but it is understood

https://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=YaRnlsyhD7M

You keep digging deeper in the pit of stupidity.

Have you not heard that the oyinbo who made pencil made eraser? It stems from agreements Europeans signed with African chiefs to steal their African land. Some of those land acquisition agreements were blank pieces of paper that were filled in after the chiefs had thumprinted. The oyinbo just had to make them understand. Most Africans learn this simple pencil eraser relationship so the mistake is not repeated and we find ourselves back in chains.

Basilico, written agreements can be rewritten, so what makes you think an unwritten agreement is binding because it is "understood"?

And that's apart from the lack of written detail that you claim is "understood".

Forgive me. I have wasted enough time on you today and will be taking the advise below.

Obrigardo:

You expect me to waste my time on you. When I give you links with reports, you'll say it's planted lol

You've seen the reports and you already know. So get lost

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 1:41pm On Sep 09, 2022
budaatum:


The foundation of Basilico's obfuscation and misinformations is his dislike of America and democracy, and the desire for a dictator who imposes his will even if he's fleecing magas undercover.

I think they refused him visa and his been bitter ever since.


The west and you Buda and your fellow Cronnies here are more like a dictator. you tend to want to silence dissenting words.

Accusing the west of provocation does not mean hate for the west.

As I said, if they are not willing to send their soldiers to fight and die, They should not be provocating. I will also tell Basilico that Russia does not have the right to dictate to any nation. If they want to Dictate, they will have to fight for it which they are doing. Ukraine too has to fight for the freedom to join Nato which they are doing.

But the West should not put fuel to the Situation by enticing Ukraine to Join them if they are not going to pick up weapons and actually help Ukraine Join them.

The proxy wars they are fighting is not enough

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:45pm On Sep 09, 2022
budaatum:
Since you seem to trust this source, perhaps you'd trust them on how sanctions are affecting Russia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLyUeKa2jzY

Whether sanctions are affecting are affecting Russia is not cause to celebrate. Ukraine cities have been reduced to rubble, many have fled and many have died. Ukrainians. Russians too have had their casualties But the news coming out is usually from biased western sources.

The effect of the war has been to precipitate a food and energy crisis. Instead of working out a solution the West is sending arms and money to Ukraine which for all intents and purposes is prolonging the war. Ukraine cannot win the war against Russia, they can shoot down some tanks, planes and drones but their cities are being laid to waste. Russia I saw somewhere respond with 10 times artillery barrages for every single one fired at them.

The West is telling its citizens to conserve energy, in Moldova a website to aid in ordering firewood for winter use already caused the resignation of a Minister there.
Whats the point of prolonging the war if people have to turn to firewood. Germany which shut down nuclear plants has two on standby now.
These leaders are punishing their own citizens In the guise of Putin is a monster ( he is not a good guy- KGB) . Food prices have shot up all over the world, energy prices have also shot up .
A resolution should be worked out, the more the war is prolonged the more the EU citizens suffer.

To top it up the rouble to the dollar moved from 127 in Feb to 61 by today.
Europe is paying expensive gas from China which Putin is selling to at a discount. I saw somewhere that in August he had revenues of 90B as compared to 60B last year and thats for a lower quantity because the prices have shot up.

Citizens will protest. I do hope CNN showed this smiley smiley


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGq7A8t69ls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzOvwlAkbvU
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:03pm On Sep 09, 2022
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:39pm On Sep 09, 2022
benalvino3:


The west and you Buda and your fellow Cronnies here are more like a dictator. you tend to want to silence dissenting words.

Accusing the west of provocation does not mean hate for the west.

As I said, if they are not willing to send their soldiers to fight and die, They should not be provocating. I will also tell Basilico that Russia does not have the right to dictate to any nation. If they want to Dictate, they will have to fight for it which they are doing. Ukraine too has to fight for the freedom to join Nato which they are doing.

But the West should not put fuel to the Situation by enticing Ukraine to Join them if they are not going to pick up weapons and actually help Ukraine Join them.

The proxy wars they are fighting is not enough

Buda gets me wrong most of the time. I do not hate america. I hate the left who are working day and night to transform it to their ( marxist?) utopia.
If China became the sole superpower the whole world would go up in flames. The Chinese are after dominance which they had thousands of years ago.
I have said here that I prefer America as the sole superpower. America has been a force of good on many occasions , helping developing nations in matters health, nutrition, peace . They have also started wars which were not necesssary.
My grouse with America today is the leftists in charge who are transforming America into a police state, overthrowing social norms, anti Xtian . Who think they are smarter than the rest of the world combined.
In the Ukraine case why do they need it to join NATO?
In the video I posted, joining NATO is one of the reasons Putin the bully invaded. The hidden reason is that he does not want Ukraine to replace Russia as the dominant energy supplier to Europe. Again the Ukrainians have been killing pro Russia separatists in the Eastern Ukraine so that was another excuse for him to invade and protect the mostly Russian speaking Eastern Ukrainians.
So the invasion is two fold. Get their oil and prevent them from undercutting Russia. Ukraine has been charging Russia billions for the pipeline through their territory forcing Russia to build several pipelines bypassing Ukraine.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:45pm On Sep 09, 2022
budaatum:


You keep digging deeper in the pit of stupidity.

Have you not heard that the oyinbo who made pencil made eraser? It stems from agreements Europeans signed with African chiefs to steal their African land. Some of those land acquisition agreements were blank pieces of paper that were filled in after the chiefs had thumprinted. The oyinbo just had to make them understand. Most Africans learn this simple pencil eraser relationship so the mistake is not repeated and we find ourselves back in chains.

Basilico, written agreements can be rewritten, so what makes you think an unwritten agreement is binding because it is "understood"?

And that's apart from the lack of written detail that you claim is "understood".

Forgive me. I have wasted enough time on you today and will be taking the advise below.


I said Russia did not expect NATO to expand eastwards which they did. There was an unwritten agreement which was flouted. You want a written agreement.
I also showed that US has committed to defend Taiwan , showed Biden confirming that Yet there is no written agreement.
Have a good day. If I took you seriously I would be wasting hours on the internet looking for stuff to convince a closed mind. Orange man bad is where your reasoning stops.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:43pm On Sep 09, 2022
basilico:


Buda gets me wrong most of the time. I do not hate america. I hate the left who are working day and night to transform it to their ( marxist?) utopia.
If China became the sole superpower the whole world would go up in flames. The Chinese are after dominance which they had thousands of years ago.
I have said here that I prefer America as the sole superpower. America has been a force of good on many occasions , helping developing nations in matters health, nutrition, peace . They have also started wars which were not necesssary.
My grouse with America today is the leftists in charge who are transforming America into a police state, overthrowing social norms, anti Xtian . Who think they are smarter than the rest of the world combined.
In the Ukraine case why do they need it to join NATO?
In the video I posted, joining NATO is one of the reasons Putin the bully invaded. The hidden reason is that he does not want Ukraine to replace Russia as the dominant energy supplier to Europe. Again the Ukrainians have been killing pro Russia separatists in the Eastern Ukraine so that was another excuse for him to invade and protect the mostly Russian speaking Eastern Ukrainians.
So the invasion is two fold. Get their oil and prevent them from undercutting Russia. Ukraine has been charging Russia billions for the pipeline through their territory forcing Russia to build several pipelines bypassing Ukraine.


Nato is provocating we know, Ukraine should have played their game carefully. they have to fight for their will now. Nato is not taking arms with them as usual.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:14pm On Sep 09, 2022
benalvino3:



Nato is provocating we know, Ukraine should have played their game carefully. they have to fight for their will now. Nato is not taking arms with them as usual.

Why is that comedian letting his country to be bombed to stone age and thousands killed? Is it the corruption from aid money proffered. He is up against an enemy he can never defeat if all pretence of war crimes are dropped of which the Ukraine forces are also guilty of in the Eastern separatist regions.

The west is propping him up creating a global energy and food crisis. In the process the whole world is suffering because these guys in the western hemisphere are arming that comedian.
Downing a plane here and shooting a few tanks then gloating about it is not winning a war,

The sanctions imposed on the Russians are hurting the EU such that they are looking for firewood to warm themselves in the next 3 months. Yet these Western nations are still sending arms and money while their own citizens are finding life difficult.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 10:11pm On Sep 09, 2022
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:18pm On Sep 09, 2022
basilico:


Buda gets me wrong most of the time. I do not hate america. I hate the left who are working day and night to transform it to their ( marxist?) utopia.
If China became the sole superpower the whole world would go up in flames. The Chinese are after dominance which they had thousands of years ago.

Where did China have dominance a thousand years ago, bas?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:52pm On Sep 09, 2022
---Trump needs better legal team---

Judge dismisses Trump lawsuit against Clinton, DNC, officials involved in Russia probe

A federal judge dismissed former President Trump’s lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and a number of other high-profile figures involved in creating the narrative that he and his 2016 presidential campaign were colluding with Russia.
This week, U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks threw out the lawsuit, saying that "most of" Trump’s claims were "unsupported by any legal authority" and said the lawsuit lacks "substance.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-dismisses-trump-lawsuit-against-clinton-dnc-officials-involved-in-russia-probe

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:24am On Sep 10, 2022
budaatum:


Where did China have dominance a thousand years ago, bas?

Known for its artistic, inventive and cultural innovations, the Tang dynasty is considered a ‘golden age’ of Chinese history. Spanning from 618-906 AD, the dynasty saw a flourishing of poetry and painting, the creation of famed tricoloured glazed pottery and woodblock prints and the advent of pioneering inventions, such as gunpowder , which ultimately changed the world.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:26am On Sep 10, 2022
feedthenation:
---Trump needs better legal team---

Judge dismisses Trump lawsuit against Clinton, DNC, officials involved in Russia probe

A federal judge dismissed former President Trump’s lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and a number of other high-profile figures involved in creating the narrative that he and his 2016 presidential campaign were colluding with Russia.
This week, U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks threw out the lawsuit, saying that "most of" Trump’s claims were "unsupported by any legal authority" and said the lawsuit lacks "substance.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-dismisses-trump-lawsuit-against-clinton-dnc-officials-involved-in-russia-probe

No judge appointed by Clinton or Obama or FBJ ever gives Trump a favorable ruling.
Banana republic.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:54am On Sep 10, 2022
basilico:


Known for its artistic, inventive and cultural innovations, the Tang dynasty is considered a ‘golden age’ of Chinese history. Spanning from 618-906 AD, the dynasty saw a flourishing of poetry and painting, the creation of famed tricoloured glazed pottery and woodblock prints and the advent of pioneering inventions, such as gunpowder , which ultimately changed the world.

Basilico! What in the above implies China's dominance?

Whom did China dominate?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:58am On Sep 10, 2022
basilico:


No judge appointed by Clinton or Obama or FBJ ever gives Trump a favorable ruling.
Banana republic.

Judges appointed by dump don't give him a favourable ruling neither.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:01am On Sep 10, 2022
basilico:


Buda gets me wrong most of the time.

You get you wrong all of the time. See as you are claiming "artistic, inventive and cultural innovations" is dominance.

Is Beyonce, Clint Eastwood and the Apollo program dominance too, basilico?

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