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Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by haaryobhami: 9:36am On Sep 11, 2022
Krismas:
grin U SAID THE WAR WILL END IN 5DAYS BUT ITS NOW ALMOST ONE YEAR grin This is the unintelligent rant of every Western LICK-SPITTLE like urself grin
Ofcourse it could not have taken more than one week were it not for the totally unbelievable truth dat Europe is ready to sink just to keep Ukraine afloat for a year grin That was not expected
Nevertheless Russia is determined to ensure Europe sink if that’s what it takes to DEMILITARIZE and DENAZIFY Ukraine after liberation of Donbas
Putin asking for sanctions lifted is to save Europe from winter freeze grin Russia can do without the west but it’s d west dat have been going all the way to China to buy Russian gas 3times the price they wud have gotten it from Russia directly had it not been for their stupid, self-inflicted sanctions grin
Why should pootin care about the welfare of the west he hates so much?
The west are already seeking alternative btw and when it materialize Russia will be useles as p in physics to them

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/07/world/europe/eu-russia-putin-gas.html
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by haaryobhami: 9:37am On Sep 11, 2022
Krismas:
grin U don’t know anything! That’s why u say they were in Kharkiv. The place is the most fortified Ukrainian enclave in the entire nation. Russians have been saving Kharkiv for last. How can Russians be told to leave a Ukrainian City? Are u making sense in ur own eyes?
with little something called google u can cure ur ignorance. Saving which Kharkiv for the last ?
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 9:38am On Sep 11, 2022
texazzpete:
How would you even know? lol, you can’t even point out Izyum on the map of Ukraine. All you go with is the usual “rah, rah, Russia will win!” Meanwhile Russian corps are fleeing for their lives and being hunted like rabbits in the Kharkiv countryside.

E say na only Izyum. The Russians were beaten out of multiple settlements including Balakliya, Shevchenkove, Izyum, Krupyansk and positions all along the Oskil. Ukrainian forces are already assaulting Lyman.

There is no point wasting my time to post videos or pictures. You will still not listen, because yours is now a fanatical craze for Russia and it’s completely removed your sense of reasoning.

Western military experts are forecasting an Ukrainian win. Russian milbloggers are in panic and admitting the balance has shifted to Ukraine.

But na only you deluded folks here wey una eye neva clear.
grin grin Do u know how many Telegraph blogs I subscribe to? grin U are only conceited like CNN in ur lies about a frenzy due to Ukrainian gains.
Nairaland has placed a ban on my picture posts! Dats why am not posting. U have no reason not to post pictures if u have any cache of weapons Russia hurriedly left behind. I am not talking about UTube rubbish documentaries dat are obviously lies! As for not knowing Lyzium on the map grin U joking right? To beat a major retreat Russia will have to cross back the Severodonetsk river. Its only Izyum dey have given up. Cos it’s a forested area where Ukrainian military have engaged in hide and seek, coupled with approaching winter, d withdrawal is for positional advantage
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 9:45am On Sep 11, 2022
haaryobhami:
with little something called google u can cure ur ignorance. Saving which Kharkiv for the last ?
grin I told u b4 u are ignorant. Hp u are mistaking Kherkiv for Kherson? First is in the north second in the south. The Russians never really took Kharkiv to begin with. That was were Zelensky visited with much fanfare to celebrate Ukrainian coming to the Russian border nonsense. As though Kharkiv were not a border town in the first instance grin
Prove me wrong if u can
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Sixfiguresmart(m): 9:55am On Sep 11, 2022
I am not a Jehovah's witness, Sir
You are hitting the wrong note. Don't you just get it? hahaha You can take your sermon to them Jehovah's witnesses.

You are the very one who sent me a DM. You just couldn't handle the heat that I am bringing. So, you chose to get to me personally and find a way to track me. hahahaha bro, I do not need anyone's private message. I came here alone and will leave alone. I do not build amity on public forum. whatever you stand to say, do it publicly cos we met publicly and will never go personal. if I have any help, I will do it through a proxy.

I am 6 digit dollar strong and I can afford my security. so, don't even dream of it sir. Everything I do here is fun for me.

regarding the old testament that you posted here, I am not a Jew. the Hebrew scriptures are for the Jews. I am not in the old covenant. I am in the new with Christ. Bring me something new from the new testament and we can deliberate on it. if you have any questions with the analytics in the Hebrew scriptures, ask, the Jews for explanation. Jesus told me that he has fulfilled all in the old testament. he has fulFILLED even the wrongs that you are spotting. He fulFILLED them. The deficiency and the addition, everything was fulfilled and done right there. Thank you Jesus for filling it for me and for the Jews.

allah in return is crying that humans that THEY created from spurting fluid from between allah's spine and ribcage have penalized him.

Imagine that. humans penalaising the allah akbar. surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

will you ever forgive the guys who penalized your allah?
BnQoyyim:
On Monday, July 17, 2019, the Russian Supreme Court rejected an appeal of an earlier ruling sanctioning jehovah’s Witnesses as an extremist group. As a last ditch effort, Russian Jehovah’s Witnesses intend to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. But, as of now, Jehovah’s Witness gatherings and preaching are criminal offenses in Russia. The Russian government also has the legal authority to liquidate any property held by Jehovah’s Witnesses as an organization.

By the way, just summon the courage in choosing either "a" or "b".
I won't expose you to many options as been documented in the bibles.
Here goes another logical questions.

How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?

(a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)

(b) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)

Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:

(a) 29,818 (Ezra)

(b) 31,089 (Nehemiah)

How many singers accompanied the assembly?

(a) Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)

(b) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)

What was the name of King Abijah’s mother?

(a) Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)

(b) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicle 13:2)
meanwhile back to the topic, I still feel Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. They could have somewhat maintained dominance by building walls around Ukraine and not attacking. They could have also held several talks and threaten the country and still achieve what they wanted. sadly, two neutral countries have teamed up with NATO which is what they wanted to prevent initially
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by GENES11S: 10:01am On Sep 11, 2022
Krismas:
grin Who put our house on fire in the first place? It is d west! Am sure u are one of those grieving the death of the queen grin
Something must change about this world order built on greed, lies and hypocrisy
"Let me tell you something you already know.

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows.

It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.

You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.

How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! ".

Now, if you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth.

But you gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody.

Cowards do that and that ain't you. BY Sylvester Stallone, Rocky Balboa.


No offense, stop being-a-Pussy and move on. Just because some people Bleep-us-up doesn't mean we are hopeless. We gat to start believing in ourselves and doing things the right way.

Ps: Hopefully I'm talking to someone who has the ability to reason (no offense).
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 10:02am On Sep 11, 2022
haaryobhami:
Why should pootin care about the welfare of the west he hates so much?
The west are already seeking alternative btw and when it materialize Russia will be useles as p in physics to them

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/07/world/europe/eu-russia-putin-gas.html
grin grin Delusional grin
That link u paste grin That trash is wot u will rather believe? Wot alternative has the west actually? Which stockpiles will not run out? Even Saudi Arabia the largest OPEC exporter of Crude is currently buying Russian oil CHEAPLY grin inorder to sell to Biden 3times the price grin wot a fantastic time to cash out on the west, all thanks to Russia. Do u think the stakeholders wish the profits to cease? grin
Currently the balance of trade between USA and China is 1:3 meaning America needs China three times more than China needs America. Russia can trade with China and other BRICS nations till Jesus come without looking the direction of west ever again! Russia does not need the west. Infact all of Russia’s money from the proceeds of oil sold to d west yrs b4 d Ukraine conflict have all been frozen in western banks in the name of sanctions. The west prefer not to pay for the oil they have enjoyed in d past grin using Ukraine as coverup. Who will miss such a trading partner with zero integrity?
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Sixfiguresmart(m): 10:04am On Sep 11, 2022
ahahahahaha

my bro

the way I ampenalizing you, even allah screaming from a corner for you. surah 56:66 We have been penalized.
Techreliance:
Pls proof those bible verses wrong!
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Sixfiguresmart(m): 10:05am On Sep 11, 2022
hahahhaha I had to laugh again cos of the trauma your head is going through right now. it is too much for one person to bear this alone.

surah 56:66 We have been penalized. You are also getting penalized, aint it?
Techreliance:
When I said u're delusional and dogmatic in manner, do ur elders ever allow u goats open ur bible at all except where they asked u to open.

See this. "A prophet of God getting drunk and committing incest in ur bible"

30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains—for he was afraid to stay in Zoar—where they lived in a cave.

31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man in the land to sleep with us, as is the custom over all the earth. 

32 Come, let us get our father drunk with wine so we can sleep with him and preserve his line.”

33 So that night they got their father drunk with wine, and the firstborn went in and slept with her father; he was not aware when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Look, I slept with my father last night. Let us get him drunk with wine again tonight so you can go in and sleep with him and we can preserve our father’s line.”

35 So again that night they got their father drunk with wine, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him; he was not aware when she lay down or when she got up.

36 Thus both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 

37 The older daughter gave birth to a son and named him Moab.b He is the father of the Moabites of today. 

38 The younger daughter also gave birth to a son, and she named him Ben-ammi.c He is the father of the Ammonites of today.
(Genesis 19)
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 10:12am On Sep 11, 2022
GENES11S:
"Let me tell you something you already know.

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows.

It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.

You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.

How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! ".

Now, if you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth.

But you gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody.

Cowards do that and that ain't you. BY Sylvester Stallone, Rocky Balboa.


No offense, stop being-a-Pussy and move on. Just because some people Bleep-us-up doesn't mean we are hopeless. We gat to start believing in ourselves and doing things the right way.

Ps: Hopefully I'm talking to someone who has the ability to reason (no offense).
grin Everything u said is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth grin But here is the problem. U failing to see that fighting back at the system is wot am courageous doing! The enemy of my enemy is my friend grin I am praying and rooting for Russia to defeat the current western hegemony that is at the root of African poverty and deprivity. So I have been applying ur principle all along grin
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by loswhite(m): 10:12am On Sep 11, 2022
Jashub:
You must be an ignorant fool . Go and read how it all started . Nonsense
Finland and Sweden have joined NATO and Finland shares border with Russia...lol. Why hasn't he striked Finland? Ukraine till date is not a member of NATO and yet you foolishly think it is about NATO. Will Russia give back the territories if today Ukraine declare to be neutral state? You think i don't know how it started with Mr Victor back in 2014? A Nigerian thinks he knows better than Ukrainian that want to align with the west.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by ocelot2006(m): 10:13am On Sep 11, 2022
Frankly, this has been a major blow for the Russians. In the Kherson front they performed remarkably well in blunting the Ukrainian offensive there, but totally dropped the ball by not solidifying their defensive lines in Izyum. Now Luahsnk is exposed. This all boils down to the manpower deficiency the Russian face as they view this whole operation as a Special Military Operation while the Ukrainians view it as all out war. Compared to Ukrainians 700k men, the Russians only have about 180k-200k men, mostly LPR and DNR militias who are few, plus National Guard units, and other Russian forces. So far the lines in the Kharkiv front has somewhat stabilised, but the Ukrainians are heavily motivated and are striking out. Russian reinforcements are equally arriving in theatre too, so the next few days/weeks will be interesting to watch. But the Russians need to get serious and mobilise, at least partially. The RuAF equally needs to get off its a$$.

That said, the Ukrainians win this one. It's a huge win.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by ocelot2006(m): 10:18am On Sep 11, 2022
RepoMan007:
Finland has proceed with NATO membership, what is Putin going to do?
He can only try rubbish because Ukraine failed to build their military strength. Let him go to Finland and invade.
Putin was never bothered about either Sweden and Finland joining NATO and he clearly stated a few months ago. He how reminded both countries that relationship at the border will change.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by ocelot2006(m): 10:20am On Sep 11, 2022
obedience4:
Yet Putin came out last week to say until sanctions are remove no gas..I thought sanctions don't work..
The EU last week agreed to a new gas cap Price .
There was no agreement on the price cap as there is dissention across EU ranks. Basically, the fear of Russian retaliation by totally shutting down gas as Putin threatened.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Jashub: 10:22am On Sep 11, 2022
loswhite:
Finland and Sweden have joined NATO and Finland shares border with Russia...lol. Why hasn't he striked Finland? Ukraine till date is not a member of NATO and yet you foolishly think it is about NATO. Will Russia give back the territories if today Ukraine declare to be neutral state? You think i don't know how it started with Mr Victor back in 2014? A Nigerian thinks he knows better than Ukrainian that want to align with the west.
You are a big mumu ...Russia has no interest in Finland and Sweden, and see the proof in this video

https://fb.watch/ftonDzmVUK/ grin

So if you like, continue selling online propaganda. That is your own prerogative with the your western masters grin
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Xplorepd: 10:26am On Sep 11, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
There are more bro. Russian need to come and see this.

surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

By who?

Did you notice that allah is a polytheistic god "we"?

Surah 56 vs 57 It is We Who created you. Will you not then believe ˹in resurrection˺?
Surah 56 vs 57 We have created you, then why would you not confirm it? (why do Muslims find it hard to confirm it for them?)

Surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:61 Had We so wished, nothing could have hindered Us from replacing you by others like yourselves, or transforming you into beings you know nothing about.

surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:60 It is We Who ordained death upon you and We are not to be frustrated.

surah 56:72 Did you make its tree grow or was it We Who made it grow?

Since the creator of man is WE, and he described himself as CreatorS in the noble quran, is it now safe to refer to Allah as THEY? Recall that he asked Muslims to CONFIRM IT. Do you confirm it?

surah 56:59 Do you create a child out of it, or are We its creator[b]s[/b]?

So, "they", Allah, the creatorS, create children out of emitted sperm.

allah even makes a wish. surah 56:61 Had We so wished,
Sadly dummies like you like to sound intelligent about Islam but you end up making a mockery of your gullible self. Total waste of time trying to explain things to a child of hate. You are insignificant so deal with this, Islam will continue to grow in leaps and bounds because some choose to research the truth and not listen to propagandists like you or those you follow
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 10:27am On Sep 11, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
I am not a Jehovah's witness, Sir
You are hitting the wrong note. Don't you just get it? hahaha You can take your sermon to them Jehovah's witnesses.

You are the very one who sent me a DM. You just couldn't handle the heat that I am bringing. So, you chose to get to me personally and find a way to track me. hahahaha bro, I do not need anyone's private message. I came here alone and will leave alone. I do not build amity on public forum. whatever you stand to say, do it publicly cos we met publicly and will never go personal. if I have any help, I will do it through a proxy.

I am 6 digit dollar strong and I can afford my security. so, don't even dream of it sir. Everything I do here is fun for me.

regarding the old testament that you posted here, I am not a Jew. the Hebrew scriptures are for the Jews. I am not in the old covenant. I am in the new with Christ. Bring me something new from the new testament and we can deliberate on it. if you have any questions with the analytics in the Hebrew scriptures, ask, the Jews for explanation. Jesus told me that he has fulfilled all in the old testament. he has fulFILLED even the wrongs that you are spotting. He fulFILLED them. The deficiency and the addition, everything was fulfilled and done right there. Thank you Jesus for filling it for me and for the Jews.

allah in return is crying that humans that THEY created from spurting fluid from between allah's spine and ribcage have penalized him.

Imagine that. humans penalaising the allah akbar. surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

will you ever forgive the guys who penalized your allah?


meanwhile back to the topic, I still feel Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. They could have somewhat maintained dominance by building walls around Ukraine and not attacking. They could have also held several talks and threaten the country and still achieve what they wanted. sadly, two neutral countries have teamed up with NATO which is what they wanted to prevent initially
grin U wrong about Russia not confronting the Ukrainian question the way they’re doing currently. Russia lost 20m people to nazism and shud not sit by and watch it fester again wit d help of d west, on its borders without challenge. Wot I agree with in ur post is ur sixfiguresmart! How can I be like u wen I grow up?
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Xplorepd: 10:31am On Sep 11, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
I am not a Jehovah's witness, Sir
You are hitting the wrong note. Don't you just get it? hahaha You can take your sermon to them Jehovah's witnesses.

You are the very one who sent me a DM. You just couldn't handle the heat that I am bringing. So, you chose to get to me personally and find a way to track me. hahahaha bro, I do not need anyone's private message. I came here alone and will leave alone. I do not build amity on public forum. whatever you stand to say, do it publicly cos we met publicly and will never go personal. if I have any help, I will do it through a proxy.

I am 6 digit dollar strong and I can afford my security. so, don't even dream of it sir. Everything I do here is fun for me.

regarding the old testament that you posted here, I am not a Jew. the Hebrew scriptures are for the Jews. I am not in the old covenant. I am in the new with Christ. Bring me something new from the new testament and we can deliberate on it. if you have any questions with the analytics in the Hebrew scriptures, ask, the Jews for explanation. Jesus told me that he has fulfilled all in the old testament. he has fulFILLED even the wrongs that you are spotting. He fulFILLED them. The deficiency and the addition, everything was fulfilled and done right there. Thank you Jesus for filling it for me and for the Jews.

allah in return is crying that humans that THEY created from spurting fluid from between allah's spine and ribcage have penalized him.

Imagine that. humans penalaising the allah akbar. surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

will you ever forgive the guys who penalized your allah?


meanwhile back to the topic, I still feel Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. They could have somewhat maintained dominance by building walls around Ukraine and not attacking. They could have also held several talks and threaten the country and still achieve what they wanted. sadly, two neutral countries have teamed up with NATO which is what they wanted to prevent initially
So the old testament is useless but your 10 percent offering comes from it right. Shaking my head... hypocrites everywhere. You guys are the most gullible being ever.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by ocelot2006(m): 10:38am On Sep 11, 2022
3duj:
Russia in 4 days has been pushed out of most of kherkiv oblast, in kherson they are in a mess ,the counteroffensive by Ukraine forces has even entered areas Ukraine hasn't
controlled Since 2014.

Infact Moscow city is virtually on lockdown and people are expecting Russia to begin a nationwide mobilization to save them from a disgraceful defeat.

Even Russian propaganda handles on Twitter and telegram are crying out in fear - but you an arm chair Nigerian military follower- one who can't subscribe for common DStv -is claiming that Russia is winning ?

Are you deft enough that you can realize the Russian military of defence just announced a retreat ?
Your statement on the Kherson front is absolutely untrue. The Russian line there held remarkably well. Keep in mind that it is held by the Russian airborne and Naval Infantry. Frankly if Zelensky had not listened to his Military chief, the outcome there would've likely affected his presidency as the Ukrainian losses were atrociously high for only 2 or so villages.

The Kharkiv/Izyum front is a totally different story. Truth be told the Russians f@#ked up big time. They actually noticed the build up, but their defensive lines where basically very thin with some areas undefended. Now Kupiansk has fallen, and Izyum is almost gone. The Ukrainians truly did their homework and deserve the win. BUUUUUT I won't be too quick to celebrate if I were in their shoes. First, Russian frontline troop reinforcements are in theatre. The Russians equally have a way better logistics line as the Ukrainians are presently stretched with a bulk of their forces now concentrated in a single area/region. Finally, this war has proven that the Russians are quite fast learners and very quick to adapt to realities on ground, case in point the 2nd phase of this war. The lines have stabilised somewhat, so the next few days will be quite interesting to watch.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by ocelot2006(m): 10:41am On Sep 11, 2022
LienwaltAbel:
Someone called Russia Mother Russiagrin after now they will start telling us that we are slaves because we refuse to blame the people who left us over 60years ago. Chai, some people's brains came with missing drivers for key parts.
The Russians usually refer to Russia as Mother Russia. What's the big deal there?
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by sanpipita(m): 10:41am On Sep 11, 2022
Russian minions are the absolute worse, I wonder how people think Russia is infallible, they are already stucked in Ukraine, the more Ukraine resist them they more Russia will be frustrated, I doubt they expected this war to last long, their economy shrinked by 4.1 in Q2 and it will get worse
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by haaryobhami: 10:50am On Sep 11, 2022
Krismas:
grin grin Delusional grin
That link u paste grin That trash is wot u will rather believe? Wot alternative has the west actually? Which stockpiles will not run out? Even Saudi Arabia the largest OPEC exporter of Crude is currently buying Russian oil CHEAPLY grin inorder to sell to Biden 3times the price grin wot a fantastic time to cash out on the west, all thanks to Russia. Do u think the stakeholders wish the profits to cease? grin
Currently the balance of trade between USA and China is 1:3 meaning America needs China three times more than China needs America. Russia can trade with China and other BRICS nations till Jesus come without looking the direction of west ever again! Russia does not need the west. Infact all of Russia’s money from the proceeds of oil sold to d west yrs b4 d Ukraine conflict have all been frozen in western banks in the name of sanctions. The west prefer not to pay for the oil they have enjoyed in d past grin using Ukraine as coverup. Who will miss such a trading partner with zero integrity?
Of course it’s trash since it doesn’t ally with ur sentiment
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by ocelot2006(m): 10:52am On Sep 11, 2022
ponyonm:
So much foolishness and stupidity on this thread. Both sides have been capturing and recapturing certain towns since the beginning of the war. Russia has captured Kherson, mauripol, the whole of luhangst and a sizeable portion of doneskt, with a fraction of nikolaev and kharviv. Ukraine goes on an offensive and pushes Russia out of most of the few parts of kharviv that Russia controls and suddenly, people are shouting about how Ukraine has won the war and how Russia has been defeated... How can some of you guys be that dumb? Russia has been pushed back a great deal from the small part of kharviv that they control and that's not something to be disputed. In Kherson, Ukraine has lost close to 5k soldiers and haven't made a single progress there. Another ignorant folk is saying Ukraine didn't prepare for war. Ukraine that NATO have been training and preparing for war against Russia since 2014?

If you don't know anything about a topic, ask or keep quiet and learn from those that know. The fact that this offensive by the Ukrainians succeeded is due to the fact that Russia has very limited troops in Ukraine. You can't be fighting an army of 700k plus soldiers and mercenaries and coded NATO troops, with roughly 170-200k soldiers and not expect things like this to happen. Losing control of territories to either side, isn't something entirely new in war. The funny part of the Ukrainian advance in kharviv is that it puts them directly under Russian firepower as they could bomb them to smithereens from a stand off position in Russia itself. Despite Ukraine taking control of the city, it's still not to their advantage as they would be directly under heavy Russian firepower.
Exactly. The Ukrainian supply lines are already stretched, and Belgorod is just across the border. As at this morning, it looked like Russia Aerospace force unleashed its Tu95MS bears with large payload of missiles. Again, I'll advise the Ukrainians not to celebrate yet.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by ocelot2006(m): 10:54am On Sep 11, 2022
sanpipita:
Russian minions are the absolute worse, I wonder how people think Russia is infallible, they are already stucked in Ukraine, the more Ukraine resist them they more Russia will be frustrated, I doubt they expected this war to last long, their economy shrinked by 4.1 in Q2 and it will get worse
The Russians are not infallible, but they are definitely not far from stuck. As a matter of fact I dare say the Russians are yet to take the kid gloves off. That said, the next days will be interesting to watch.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 10:54am On Sep 11, 2022
ocelot2006:
Your statement on the Kherson front is absolutely untrue. The Russian line there held remarkably well. Keep in mind that it is held by the Russian airborne and Naval Infantry. Frankly if Zelensky had not listened to his Military chief, the outcome there would've likely affected his presidency as the Ukrainian losses were atrociously high for only 2 or so villages.

The Kharkiv/Izyum front is a totally different story. Truth be told the Russians f@#ked up big time. They actually noticed the build up, but their defensive lines where basically very thin with some areas undefended. Now Kupiansk has fallen, and Izyum is almost gone. The Ukrainians truly did their homework and deserve the win. BUUUUUT I won't be too quick to celebrate if I were in their shoes. First, Russian frontline troop reinforcements are in theatre. The Russians equally have a way better logistics line as the Ukrainians are presently stretched with a bulk of their forces now concentrated in a single area/region. Finally, this war has proven that the Russians are quite fast learners and very quick to adapt to realities on ground, case in point the 2nd phase of this war. The lines have stabilised somewhat, so the next few days will be quite interesting to watch.
grin Well it appears Kharkiv is Russia’s Achilles heels in this war. They have struggled around that area lately.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Wuppdex: 11:02am On Sep 11, 2022
The same innocent people who showed racism towards your women and children during evacuation, blacks are the most stupid species, low self esteem and blind support without personal reflection. We fight and kill each other for the Wars and Gods of other tribes and races. yet no one gives a Bleep about our existence. SLAVE MENTALITY

Emmamay10:
God save the King. Russia Federation will never achieved its demonic mission in Ukraine. The will of innocent people that have been killed in Ukraine will always prevail.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by sanpipita(m): 11:06am On Sep 11, 2022
ocelot2006:
The Russians are not infallible, but they are definitely not far from stuck. As a matter of fact I dare say the Russians are yet to take the kid gloves off. That said, the next days will be interesting to watch.
We keep hearing this since February, I wonder when people will understand war isn't easy, Russia will run thin on long run, America and its allies are arming Ukraine massively, HIMARS are causing serious problems for Russia.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by RepoMan007: 11:12am On Sep 11, 2022
ocelot2006:
Putin was never bothered about either Sweden and Finland joining NATO and he clearly stated a few months ago. He how reminded both countries that relationship at the border will change.
Stop sounding clueless and weak. Finland shares border with Russia just like Ukraine and all excuses used to justify Ukraine invasion can happen with Finland also. How about that?
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 11:24am On Sep 11, 2022
haaryobhami:
Of course it’s trash since it doesn’t ally with ur sentiment
grin I don’t work with sentiment. I wk wit facts
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by BnQoyyim(m): 11:25am On Sep 11, 2022
Sixfiguresmart:
I am not a Jehovah's witness, Sir
You are hitting the wrong note. Don't you just get it? hahaha You can take your sermon to them Jehovah's witnesses.

You are the very one who sent me a DM. You just couldn't handle the heat that I am bringing. So, you chose to get to me personally and find a way to track me. hahahaha bro, I do not need anyone's private message. I came here alone and will leave alone. I do not build amity on public forum. whatever you stand to say, do it publicly cos we met publicly and will never go personal. if I have any help, I will do it through a proxy.

I am 6 digit dollar strong and I can afford my security. so, don't even dream of it sir. Everything I do here is fun for me.

regarding the old testament that you posted here, I am not a Jew. the Hebrew scriptures are for the Jews. I am not in the old covenant. I am in the new with Christ. Bring me something new from the new testament and we can deliberate on it. if you have any questions with the analytics in the Hebrew scriptures, ask, the Jews for explanation. Jesus told me that he has fulfilled all in the old testament. he has fulFILLED even the wrongs that you are spotting. He fulFILLED them. The deficiency and the addition, everything was fulfilled and done right there. Thank you Jesus for filling it for me and for the Jews.

allah in return is crying that humans that THEY created from spurting fluid from between allah's spine and ribcage have penalized him.

Imagine that. humans penalaising the allah akbar. surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

will you ever forgive the guys who penalized your allah?


meanwhile back to the topic, I still feel Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. They could have somewhat maintained dominance by building walls around Ukraine and not attacking. They could have also held several talks and threaten the country and still achieve what they wanted. sadly, two neutral countries have teamed up with NATO which is what they wanted to prevent initially
This is unheard-of, in the same bibles!
jesus said this in Mathew 5:17 that

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil"
So, which will you like to separate from which?

I mailed you, purposely you might want us to let our argument be more realistic and get witnessed than this medium.

More but not much questions, my brother.

Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?

(a) Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)

(b) No (Joshua 15:63)

Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

(a) Jacob (Matthew 1:16)

(b) Hell (Luke 3:23)

Jesus descended from which son of David?

(a) Solomon (Matthew 1:6)

(b) Nathan(Luke3:31)

Who was the father of Shealtiel?

(a) Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)

(b) Neri’ (Luke 3:27)

Just choose any options and let's debate on why.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by Krismas(m): 11:27am On Sep 11, 2022
RepoMan007:
Stop sounding clueless and weak. Finland shares border with Russia just like Ukraine and all excuses used to justify Ukraine invasion can happen with Finland also. How about that?
grin Wrong. Finland does not have indigenous Russian population like Ukraine.
Re: Ukraine: Russia's Military Withdraws, Explains Withdrawal by texazzpete(m): 11:27am On Sep 11, 2022
Krismas:
grin U are the one that know nothing about OPERATION BARBAROSSA grin The Germans did not get more than 300miles into Russia in WW2 and Germany lost all thanks to the imbecility of Hitler and the 1945 winter snow grin
And this is how I know I’m wasting my time with you. You don’t know anything. Imagine claiming the Germans lost due to the “1945 winter snow” meanwhile the key turning points were the battle of Moscow (winter 1941) and Stalingrad (q4 1942 - q1 1943).

The war ended mid 1945, you ignoramus.


Krismas:
How can u compare these to the lackluster performances of Ukraine in dis current war?
Russia has been fighting in Ukraine since late February, it’s 6 months later and they’ve not even been able to take the so-called DNR territory. Their army group from Belarus was defeated outside Kyiv and now they’ve been forced out of incredibly strategic cities they only captured after intense effort earlier in the war. And yet Ukraine is the one that is ‘lackluster’?

Lmao

Your Russia couldn’t even manage to get air superiority over Ukraine!

You really are clueless about these things
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