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Jashub:
Oga, the energy crisis in Europe just told us that Russia is capable of handling the ludicrous sanctions being placed. Further more, the demand for Russian crude is always there on the international market ...and countries in Asia are now willing to play ball with Russia to meet up with the gaps the Europeans left , so how can you say that they cannot afford to pay for military hardware and sustain their economy when in fact the Ruble keeps appreciating like garri soaked in water ? And please dont say you buy that bullishit report of the US that says "Russia is buying supplies for North Korea"

I made some references to some resources on the web for you. Try and read them. More so I read and watch balanced news...CNN, BBC and Al Jazeera. They all supported the position I made. Or can we say Al Jazeera is biased too?. You are talking about demand for Russia oil. It requires a lot of logistics and those countries are only willing to buy at discounted prices. Moreso, EU is flirting with the idea of not insuring Russia oil to non-eu destination. Remember that 90% of insurer of maritime transport is from EU, if the EU members agree on this eventually, it will be a disaster for the Russia federation again.

Massive stockpiles of weapons left by the feeling Russians. Believe Russia propaganda at your own peril. Their technology is fluke which includes their air defenses even shooting down their own SU35 jets.

Jashub:
Oga, there was an agreement between the US and Russia . And that agreement was for NATO not to expand into eastern Europe. Watch the video and learn something ;

https://fb.watch/ftCaKOtBmc/

Even Gorbachev who was the then president of the Soviet Union said there was NO agreement.

Read this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/amp/

Sixfiguresmart:
Jesus done told you that he came to fulFILL it. Something that is fulfilled is done with. If you promised last week to pay me a million naira this week. And, you gave it to me this morning, have you FULFILLED your promise?

should I keep demanding the cash that you have already paid? That will look stupid right? In other words, if you had told me mid last week that you ran into some debt and you will be unable to meet your earlier promise, you have destroyed your promise

So, Jesus confirmed that IT IS FINISHED before he died. So, he has completely FULFILLED the law.

Dragging Jesus into that law again will look utterly stupid, isn't it? YES! Why so? Because he has FULFILLED the law.

If the law says pay your income tax and you paid it, you have fulfilled that part of the law. If the IRS comes arresting you for the law that you have fulfilled, you will fight back. You have a right to sue them. Why? Because you have fulfilled the law. So, Jesus does have a right to sue you now. Why? cos you are accusing him and forcing him to complied with what he has already fulfilled.

But, in a case where allah is penalized, I beg to ask why human penalized allah. And who gave them such power to exert more influence over the allah akbar to the point of penalizing him. Do you have any clue regarding this?

My argument would centre on the biblical contexts, nothing less,you just keep on twisting, i pray nemesis shouldn't catch you because, you could be my brother in faith in the nearest future.
My questions remains exclusively biblical.

Meanwhile, before the next very questions, i would want to call your attention to the way Muslims pray in the bibles.

And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the Lord with their faces to the ground. (Nehemiah 8:6)

And he (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed..." (Matthew 26:39)

"And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship..." (Joshua 5:14)

"And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces…" (Numbers 20:6)

"And Abraham fell on his face..." (Genesis 17:3)

"…and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God." (Revelation 7:11)

"…then they bowed their heads and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground." (Nehemiah 8:6)

"…Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces." (1 Chronicles 21:16)

And in the book of Kings we find Prophet Elijah casting himself upon the earth in the position of kneeling before touching the forehead to the ground.

"…and he cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees." (1 Kings 18:42)

Now Questions.

Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?

(a) Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)

(b) Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.

Who was the father of Uzziah?

(a) Joram (Matthew 1:

(b) Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

Who as the father of Jechoniah?

(a) Josiah (Matthew 1:11)

(b) Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)

How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?

(a) Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)

(b) But a careful count of the generations.

Nehemiah 8:6
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground.

MT:
I made some references to some resources on the web for you. Try and read them. More so I read and watch balanced news...CNN, BBC and Al Jazeera. They all supported the position I made. Or can we say Al Jazeera is biased too?. You are talking about demand for Russia oil. It requires a lot of logistics and those countries are only willing to buy at discounted prices. Moreso, EU is flirting with the idea of not insuring Russia oil to non-eu destination. Remember that 90% of insurer of maritime transport is from EU, if the EU members agree on this eventually, it will be a disaster for the Russia federation again.

Oga, Aljazeera and CNN are still part of the corrupt mainstream media that enjoys filtering news to the detriment of the populace . So let us follow the facts that are currently on ground without us subscribing to emotions and propaganda reports .

Fact number 1:

There is an energy crisis in Europe and America (fact)...and Russia is the cause of that crisis .

Fact number 2:

The sanctions we thought would crumble the Ruble and make Russians die of hunger has only turned out to be the opposite. The Russian Ruble is rising ...and that is because Russia demanded that all services including crude be bought in Rubles .(fact)

Fact number 3:

Asian countries like India, Pakistan , Vietnam and co are willing to buy Russian crude on Russian terms and conditions . This move will toss all influences the EU's maritime has on Russian supply to Asia (fact)

As it stands , the EU is not in a position to make demands on Russia

Jashub:
Oga, there was an agreement between the US and Russia . And that agreement was for NATO not to expand into eastern Europe. Watch the video and learn something ;

https://fb.watch/ftCaKOtBmc/

I don't care about any videos I want to see a signed and legally binding agreement between NATO and Russia.

Talks and rumours are not legally binding.

MT:
Even Gorbachev who was the then president of the Soviet Union said there was NO agreement.

Read this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/amp/

Oga dont let me mock you . Please read the report you sent me ...

Theunbothered:
I don't care about any videos I want to see a signed and legally binding agreement between NATO and Russia.

Talks and rumours are not legally binding.

But the exit of Russia from Cuba was not legal and binding abi? Go and ask Zelensky for the agreement and see what he will say ... anyways, the bombs will continue flying on Ukraine for as long as possible

Despite Western sanctions, Russia seems to have won the energy market. But some say Moscow will soon run out of cash.
Russia's economy was predicted to collapse after Western countries imposed unprecedented sanctions on Moscow over the war in Ukraine. But last week, the Russian statistics bureau Rosstat said gross domestic product (GDP) in the first six months of the year had fallen by just 0.4%.

Capital investment is up, the ruble has rebounded and inflation — which soared when the war began — has started to subside, according to official data. This week, a top Russian government official predicted that GDP for the whole year would be just 3% lower and not contract by a third. So what is going on?

As expected, oil and gas revenues, particularly from the European Union, are continuing to shore up the country's finances, despite the likes of Germany and Italy cutting their reliance on Russian energy. The state-owned energy giant Gazprom just announced a record first-half profit of 2.5 trillion rubles ($41.36 billion, €41.41 billion), sparking a 30% rise in its share price.

"Even if the Russian economy is performing worse than six months ago, it's not enough to stop [Russian President Vladimir] Putin from financing the war," Maxim Mironov, a professor of finance at the IE Business School in Madrid, told DW.

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There's no doubt that Western sanctions have started to bite. Last month, a study by Yale University found that imports to Russia have collapsed and manufacturers are struggling to obtain components, including semiconductors and other high-tech parts.

Russia's position as a commodities exporter has been irreversibly eroded, the report said, as Moscow has been forced to sell more of its oil and gas to Asia at a steep discount.


Nearly a thousand Western firms have pulled out or curtailed their business activities, causing disruption and layoffs
Economic collapse in 'two years'
One of the report's co-authors, management professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, recently told Britain's Times Radio that Russia's economy could only "survive with tremendous hardships for two years or so," as long as the West remains firm on sanctions. Other trade experts think a full economic collapse will take much longer.

"In the long run, Russia will be no more than a gas station for China...but I don't buy this argument that the economy will collapse in two years," Rolf J. Langhammer, a German trade expert and former vice president of the Kiel Insitute for the World Economy (IfW-Kiel), told DW. He said Russia had spent several years building its war chest and noted how international finance experts think the country is well prepared for any economic decoupling from the West.

"The International Monetary Fund (IMF) wrote last year that Russia had hoarded cash since the 2014 conflict in eastern Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea and was prepared for a war of attrition."

Langhammer noted how Germany had paid €20 billion ($19.97 billion) to Russia for energy imports in the first half of 2022 — a 50% rise from the same period last year. "Even if volumes fall, with soaring
Putin burning through reserves
The Yale researchers noted how Russia was drawing down the $600 billion in foreign currency reserves that have acted as a cushion for Putin in the first months of the war. They said $80 billion has already been utilized, while another half of the reserves has been frozen by the West.

Alexander Mihailov, associate professor in economics at the UK's University of Reading, believes that Putin will only run short of cash for the war when the West can fully cut its reliance on Russian energy, which he said would likely take another 2-3 years.

If Putin's options become limited, Russia may effectively start printing money to meet skyrocketing military costs, which Mihailov said would be "madness" as it would "lead to huge ruble depreciation, hyperinflation and social unrest."

ocelot2006:
The Russians usually refer to Russia as Mother Russia. What's the big deal there?

The big deal is a Nigerian referring to Russia as Mother Russia. It makes no sense.

BnQoyyim:
My argument would centre on the biblical contexts, nothing less, keep on twisting, i pray nemesis shouldn't catch you because, you could be my brother in faith in the nearest futu

God forbid. What I saw in Saudi Arabia alone makes me puke. I am no stranger to Islam. Your biggest clap back is the divinity of Jesus, and the discrepancies in the Bible. Nothing more makes doctrinal sense

Sir, with all due respect, you and I know that wat is written in the quran is evidence of the inconsistencies of Islam. I know that you have expended your ability to defend the quran. Your deflection to the Bible is a weakling's effort to rescue his drowning soul.

Allah asserts that he is one of those 360 gods in the temple of Hubal. You deny him. That means utter disrespect.

PoliteActivist:
Have you ever considered one fundamental question:

Who was there durring creation and writing down every detail of what God said to Himself while creating - down to wether he used We or I??!!

who was there? Is that your fundamental question? Okay. Jesus was.

Who captured every detail in writing? Moses did. Revealed to him by God who also gave him the commandments.

Regarding if he used We or I, the Bible said God SAID. The one who initiated the conversation is identified solely as God. All through the course of the Bible he continues to be identified the same way.

Regarding who he spoke to, the Bible confirms that he spoke to his son because he is AT HIS RIGHT AND SIDE. Again, the Bible affirms that Jesus was his principal worker. Yet again, the Bible continues to insist that everything was created THROUGH Jesus. Once more, the Bible consistent emphasises that he would not do a thing until he REVEALS it to Jesus.

Simply because he has affection for his BELOVED son Jesus.

So, here is Your fundamental question. Now, welcome to Christianity, bro.

That is why the quran needs the Tafseer because even the Muslims began a subtle mental revolution at the time because the quran is inconsistent. The caliphate had to arrange the lies and cover ups to douse the emanating conflict. Even Aisha, that little girl could sense it in Mohammed asking him why allah is so much in a hurry to grant Mohammed's requests only.

RepoMan007:
Stop sounding clueless and weak. Finland shares border with Russia just like Ukraine and all excuses used to justify Ukraine invasion can happen with Finland also. How about that?

Can't you state your point or counter my argument without resorting to insults like some damn kid?

GENES11S:
Russia cannot defeat them. Modern warfare is no longer about military weapons. It is now about alies. It's about economy independence.

The more alies you have, the more powerful you become. The more independent your economy, the more powerful you become.
My anger with Russia is that they don't seem to know this.

Countries like Ukraine, Finland, Poland, Belarus, etc. are supposed to be their closest allies.
They should not be bullied in any way neither should you try to forcefully control them. That's just like sowing a seed of distrust...which will be reap in the far future by the next generations.

But Russia never learn...they still depends on weaponry approach (old-school). It doesn't work anymore.


As for Africa, mehn... Africa mata don tire me. The mata big no be small.

Russia has already won by surviving an unprecedented sanctions regime imposed on her by collective west.
As for allies, Russia has plenty plenty powerful allies. It’s because Russia is a very big country stretching from Europe to Asia, thats why u think Ukraine Finland Sweden are Russia’s neighbor They are actually European countries while Russia is an Asian country. Russia’s neighbors are China, India, Iran, Afghanistan. Cos Russia share border with dem all and are very close to Russia economically. Check up BRICS, u will see Russia has very powerful friends too

Jashub:
The Russians made it clear that they would hit only military targets that were strategic threats to their own country . They never made mention of hitting civilians like Zelensky keeps crying about on social media ...and that includes football stadiums

Na you and Putin sitdon discuss am?

RepoMan007:
Stop sounding clueless and weak. Finland shares border with Russia just like Ukraine and all excuses used to justify Ukraine invasion can happen with Finland also. How about that?

And please do tell if Finland shares the same history and heritage like Ukraine. Are they also Slavs like either Ukraine or Russia? Was Finland part of the Soviet Union or the Red Pact? The Finns have ALWAYS been Western leaning....scratch that....Finland is a Nordic country (just like Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and Iceland) and a core part of the west. The fact that they and Sweden have joined NATO comes as absolutely no surprise to Russia at all. And the Russians considering invading Finland or any other NATO country ain't happening anytime soon.

sanpipita:
We keep hearing this since February, I wonder when people will understand war isn't easy, Russia will run thin on long run, America and its allies are arming Ukraine massively, HIMARS are causing serious problems for Russia.

The FACT that the Russians, despite facing the collective wrath of NATO alliance of over 20 states plus other western leaning states led by the USA via their Ukrainian proxy, and with ONLY 200,000 men (LPR and DPR militia included in that number) in theatre, yet were able to take a considerable portion of Ukrainian territory while inflicting massive damage on the Ukrainians despite the continuous flow of funds, weapons, training, ammo, and intelligence for the Ukrainians is frankly a testament to the Russian Armed Forces. So imagine if Putin orders full mobilization.

Anyway I still say that the coming days will definitely be interesting.

Space booked

Sixfiguresmart:
There are more bro. Russian need to come and see this.

surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

By who?

Did you notice that allah is a polytheistic god "we"?

Surah 56 vs 57 It is We Who created you. Will you not then believe ˹in resurrection˺?
Surah 56 vs 57 We have created you, then why would you not confirm it? (why do Muslims find it hard to confirm it for them?)

Surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:61 Had We so wished, nothing could have hindered Us from replacing you by others like yourselves, or transforming you into beings you know nothing about.

surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:60 It is We Who ordained death upon you and We are not to be frustrated.

surah 56:72 Did you make its tree grow or was it We Who made it grow?

Since the creator of man is WE, and he described himself as CreatorS in the noble quran, is it now safe to refer to Allah as THEY? Recall that he asked Muslims to CONFIRM IT. Do you confirm it?

surah 56:59 Do you create a child out of it, or are We its creator[b]s[/b]?

So, "they", Allah, the creatorS, create children out of emitted sperm.

allah even makes a wish. surah 56:61 Had We so wished,

Dem go tell you say na English interpret am like dat. Why do you respond to this?

Gospel2Day:
Germany and Japan were destroyed beyond the devastation in Ukraine.
Both countries are currently both economic and military powerhouses.
Ukraine will get out of and over the current destruction by Russia.
The error of Ukraine is that they did not prepare for war. If they have been firing long range artillery munitions far into Russian territory, the war would have ended since. Russia and Russians would not have been at ease and peace.

yall just talking
all these happend years ago
yes they will definatly recover with good governance
its not going to happen too soon

Well, I am not the guy to fool because I am ten steps ahead of their game. I speak and read Arabic so it gives me an advantage. I have the quran both in Arabic and in English. So, I am the guy who tells them that they are being deceived. When they go to verify, rather than returning to thank me, they ghost me. later to to return with a new skin of defense and argument. But, I know the Dawah game. It is a game of sophistry in Islam. They employ all tricks of deceit. As a matter of fact a Muslim can even denounce his faith publicly and it is allowed in Islam. It is called Taqiya. I went to an Islamic institute. I wanted to ignore and just be cool but what I see disturbed me.

So, for me I deeply understand the islamic game that they play and I bring it real. This is why many of them rather avoid me than confront me like they do other Christians on nairaland.

I am bringing the heat one by one to them. Their dawah game is to bamboozled you with facts. my goal is not to demonize the religion but to make these black brothers see the truth for themselves and be able to make an objective and conscientious decision based on facts not lies that they have been told.

Read my history here, you can clearly see that I easily take down their lies one by one. Just a brother trying to help with the knowledge that I have cos these brothers are suicide arsenals for Arabs. They are being used by top guns to commit terrorism.

Kaysalas:
Dem go tell you say na English interpret am like dat. Why do you respond to this?

ZombieSlayer1:
Ukraine had one of the best armies in Europe, but they've been decimated. It's funny considering that the entire NATO countries have been supplying Ukraine with training, logistics, intelligence and weapons but the Ukrainians are still having their asses handed to them by Russia

Bro don’t mind responding to such persons!! They have consciously conceded lies to the point that they believe and live it!!.. They ignore the hands of 31 nato countries against a single enemy and shout Ukraine this and Ukraine that!!! Russia would wipe them off gradually!!..

Umunze1stSon:
Your comment, funny but truth.

I heard they buried Ejike yesterday and plenty plenty youths mourned him.

Snitch24:
yall just talking
all these happend years ago
yes they will definatly recover with good governance
its not going to happen too soon

Leave them to worry about that.
It is not our business.
We have enough on our hands in Nigeria to worry about.
Happy Sunday.
Shalom.

Over how many months, almighty Russia is yet to overthrow Ukraine.

Shame.

Osariemen12:
Quote a place I made such statement or keep mute.

Ba turanshi?

Corridon:
I heard they buried Ejike yesterday and plenty plenty youths mourned him.

I don't know him. I am not based at home.

Sixfiguresmart:
Bola, kindly read your sentence again and tell me if you could score yourself above 3 on a 10 point score sheet.

Do you call all those verse in the quran jargons?

Is this what the quran means to you, jargons?

I never said those quran verses you wrote is Jason's rather how you interpret the meanings and your ideology however the reason why I said you need a proper translator to understand quran verse.lastly I am muslim till my last breath..peace

Sixfiguresmart:
who was there? Is that your fundamental question? Okay. Jesus was.

Who captured every detail in writing? Moses did. Revealed to him by God who also gave him the commandments.

Regarding if he used We or I, the Bible said God SAID. The one who initiated the conversation is identified solely as God. All through the course of the Bible he continues to be identified the same way.

Regarding who he spoke to, the Bible confirms that he spoke to his son because he is AT HIS RIGHT AND SIDE. Again, the Bible affirms that Jesus was his principal worker. Yet again, the Bible continues to insist that everything was created THROUGH Jesus. Once more, the Bible consistent emphasises that he would not do a thing until he REVEALS it to Jesus.

Simply because he has affection for his BELOVED son Jesus.

So, here is Your fundamental question. Now, welcome to Christianity, bro.

That is why the quran needs the Tafseer because even the Muslims began a subtle mental revolution at the time because the quran is inconsistent. The caliphate had to arrange the lies and cover ups to douse the emanating conflict. Even Aisha, that little girl could sense it in Mohammed asking him why allah is so much in a hurry to grant Mohammed's requests only.

God GAVE Moses the commandments. No where is it suggested that God gave Moses how He created the universe. Also see the screenshot below.

Furthermore, here is your question again below. Nothing you have said so far has answered that question. The Bible never refers to God as they, nor does any one else. God is always referred to as singular.
Here's your question again:
Since the creator of man is WE... is it now safe to refer to God as THEY?

I didn't explain anything, Sir. I simply posted the verses directly from the quran. what respect tops that?

I respect what you choose to be. I am not here to convert anyone. I am here on a public forum, to share what I know. If you are affected by it, present your alternative argument. All you have done so far is condemn mine.

omobolarinwa1:
I never said those quran verses you wrote is Jason's rather how you interpret the meanings and your ideology however the reason why I said you need a proper translator to understand quran verse.lastly I am muslim till my last breath..peace

Jashub:
Oga, Aljazeera and CNN are still part of the corrupt mainstream media that enjoys filtering news to the detriment of the populace . So let us follow the facts that are currently on ground without us subscribing to emotions and propaganda reports .

Fact number 1:

There is an energy crisis in Europe and America (fact)...and Russia is the cause of that crisis .

Fact number 2:

The sanctions we thought would crumble the Ruble and make Russians die of hunger has only turned out to be the opposite. The Russian Ruble is rising ...and that is because Russia demanded that all services including crude be bought in Rubles .(fact)

Fact number 3:

Asian countries like India, Pakistan , Vietnam and co are willing to buy Russian crude on Russian terms and conditions . This move will toss all influences the EU's maritime has on Russian supply to Asia (fact)

As it stands , the EU is not in a position to make demands on Russia

Your Fact 1. You are very correct. That is no brainer since EU has over relied on Russia for gas. It will take some times before they are independent.

Your Fact 2: You are wrong. Ruble is NOT rising solely because Russia demands payment for its oil in Ruble. Russian Government is ARTIFICIALLY propping up the rubles using various interventionist means. It is NOT sustainable in the long term. You can read this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/2167447/how-russia-defended-the-ruble-from-ukraine-war-sanctions/amp/
Infact, due to the fact that Russia can not get enough buyers for its gas, Russia is now flaring off $10 Million worth of gas daily.

Your Fact 3: This is not totally correct. These countries you mentioned want to buy discounted oil from Russia. They cannot pay the same price EU is paying. Moreso, it requires complex logistics to transport to these countries with attendant associated cost. All these mean inflow to Russia will be drastically reduced. And like I said, 90% of maritime insurance is done by EU, if the EU member states agree to withdraw insurance for non-EU countries, that will be a major hit to Russia.

PS: May I advise that you cannot condemn all news channels because they are not saying what you hope for. We cannot take your opinion as the source of the truth. Your opinion is not tenable in any court of law. Condemning Al jazeera, BBC and CNN is not a way to go. What will you rather allow us to watch?