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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Obrigardo:
Your total understanding from that point was and is pure trash, doesn't make any sense even with the many paragraphs you could muster.
None of the agencies involved in the docs ever proved Criminal trump went through declassification process.
The Former criminal president didn't declassify by speaking into thing air like abracadabra and the docs were declassified.

I won't be surprised that's what you think Criminal trump did, he just said i declassify all, and the docs became declassified grin grin
Media and DOJ looking for contradictory testimony. Those two bodies are the real criminals.
Trump did indeed tweet on Oct. 6, 2020: “I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!”

As can be seen the issue of nuclear codes is just rubbish. The main documents declassified are Hilary Clinton email investigation and the botched Russia gate investigation by Democrats. In my opinion those are the documents that the DOJ wants to bury and they took them forcefully from Trump, went around his friends searching their homes.
All to protect Hillary and the subsequent treasonous act of removing Trump from power. Clinton paid for a fake document that was used to spy on the Trump campaign. Obama knew about the whole plot too.
This is what DOJ/FBI does not want the ordinary person to know. As for you Obrigardo even if evidence that supports Trump was chewed and digested for you, you would never change your stance. DId trump eat your goat?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8813315/Trump-says-fully-authorized-total-declassification-documents.html
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:39am On Sep 20, 2022
Dementia Joe for the second time stated that the US forces would defend Taiwan should it be invaded by of course China. He said this is in an interview , But the WhiteHouse later corrected this position to a point of ambiguity.
Talk about dementia.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:43am On Sep 20, 2022
Glad my children never had to go through this. Notice that these are all liberals and full of lies.
The left lies like there is no tomorrow.

Joe Biden lying about Republicans while its his thugs who burn American flags, loot stores , burn buildings and commit all sorts of crimes yet he accuses the Republicans of formenting violence,.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1571926721146032129

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:07am On Sep 20, 2022
basilico:
Media and DOJ looking for contradictory testimony. Those two bodies are the real criminals.
Trump did indeed tweet on Oct. 6, 2020: “I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!”

As can be seen the issue of nuclear codes is just rubbish. The main documents declassified are Hilary Clinton email investigation and the botched Russia gate investigation by Democrats. In my opinion those are the documents that the DOJ wants to bury and they took them forcefully from Trump, went around his friends searching their homes.
All to protect Hillary and the subsequent treasonous act of removing Trump from power. Clinton paid for a fake document that was used to spy on the Trump campaign. Obama knew about the whole plot too.
This is what DOJ/FBI does not want the ordinary person to know. As for you Obrigardo even if evidence that supports Trump was chewed and digested for you, you would never change your stance. DId trump eat your goat?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8813315/Trump-says-fully-authorized-total-declassification-documents.html
---because Trump can declassify documents doesn't give him the authority to keep them as his personal items---they still have to go through process of due diligence---

if you are employed, try to keep your company's documents when you leave, i guarantee you will be charged for theft and gross misconduct---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:43am On Sep 20, 2022
basilico:
My understanding of this.
Do me a favour. Say "what I, Basilico, have been made to believe from the kraken I consumed is...".

Because, you clearly have not got the ability to understand that a process must be followed to declassify and your dump never followed it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:45am On Sep 20, 2022
feedthenation:
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if you are employed, try to keep your company's documents when you leave, i guarantee you will be charged for theft and gross misconduct---
It's basilico. His defence will be, "I declassified the documents before I left with them because I have the power to do so".
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:03am On Sep 20, 2022
budaatum:
Do me a favour. Say "what I, Basilico, have been made to believe from the kraken I consumed is...".

Because, you clearly have not got the ability to understand that a process must be followed to declassify and your dump never followed it.
Since you know the process why don't you tell us?

The president can declassify any documents. That's a fact.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:04am On Sep 20, 2022
budaatum:
It's basilico. His defence will be, "I declassified the documents before I left with them because I have the power to do so".
He sure has the power to do that. But you control the lie you consume or the ones you use on yourself.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:09am On Sep 20, 2022
benalvino3:
Since you know the process why don't you tell us?

The president can declassify any documents. That's a fact.
As in, tell you again after you've been told numerous times in this very thread or can Google and find out for yourself?

No ben, I shall not tell you. You being told is the reason you are the way you are - they tell you kraken and you call it fact.

If you open your own eyes and do your own research you'd know what the facts actually are.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:14am On Sep 20, 2022
budaatum:
As in, tell you again after you've been told numerous times in this very thread or can Google and find out for yourself?

No ben, I shall not tell you. You being told is the reason you are the way you are - they tell you kraken and you call it fact.

If you open your own eyes and do your own research you'd know what the facts actually are.
Basilico has Googled and find out and you said he does not know the procedure, so tell us na. Since you know or you use a special. Kind of Google.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:16am On Sep 20, 2022
benalvino3:
Basilico has Googled ....
You make me laugh.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:18am On Sep 20, 2022
budaatum:
Do me a favour. Say "what I, Basilico, have been made to believe from the kraken I consumed is...".

Because, you clearly have not got the ability to understand that a process must be followed to declassify and your dump never followed it.
What process did he not follow? He would not have had those records unless the IC gave him the copies. They have the original documents of everything that could be secret needing declass.
How did you want him to do it?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:20am On Sep 20, 2022
budaatum:
You make me laugh.
There is a reason why the media was shouting nuclear secrets, because that's where there is caveat on the presidents executive privileges to declassify.

But they speculate and lie just like during the Russia collusion that the FBI funded to entrap trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:37am On Sep 20, 2022
basilico:
Media and DOJ looking for contradictory testimony. Those two bodies are the real criminals.
Trump did indeed tweet on Oct. 6, 2020: “I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!”

As can be seen the issue of nuclear codes is just rubbish. The main documents declassified are Hilary Clinton email investigation and the botched Russia gate investigation by Democrats. In my opinion those are the documents that the DOJ wants to bury and they took them forcefully from Trump, went around his friends searching their homes.
All to protect Hillary and the subsequent treasonous act of removing Trump from power. Clinton paid for a fake document that was used to spy on the Trump campaign. Obama knew about the whole plot too.
This is what DOJ/FBI does not want the ordinary person to know. As for you Obrigardo even if evidence that supports Trump was chewed and digested for you, you would never change your stance. DId trump eat your goat?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8813315/Trump-says-fully-authorized-total-declassification-documents.html
Even worse, a tweet grin
And from the twitter that he doesn't have anymore
But that by the way side, you are really shameless
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:40am On Sep 20, 2022
benalvino3:
There is a reason why the media was shouting nuclear secrets, because that's where there is caveat on the presidents executive privileges to declassify.
Chai, i've never read an ignorantly stupid post in my life.
Only an idiot who doesn't know how America works can say something as hideous as this.

Let me type it in bold, NO US PRESIDENTS CAN DECLASSIFY NUCLEAR SECRETS.
Don't you know when the president declassifies government information it gets to the public domain,
You can now easily access it on your 4chan

Only an idiot who doesnt' know how America works thinks Nuclear secrets can be declassified.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:45am On Sep 20, 2022
Today is the Special Master's ruling on the Classified Docs review. Criminal trump must tell the judge why the criminal will hold the government to ransom by not explaining how he declassified them to the SAME GOVERNMENT. Game on!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:55am On Sep 20, 2022
Obrigardo:
Chai, i've never read an ignorantly stupid post in my life.
Only an idiot who doesn't know how America works can say something as hideous as this.

Let me type it in bold, NO US PRESIDENTS CAN DECLASSIFY NUCLEAR SECRETS.
Don't you know when the president declassifies government information it gets to the public domain,
You can now easily access it on your 4chan

Only an idiot who doesnt' know how America works thinks Nuclear secrets can be declassified.
I feel like an idiot every time I feel the need to respond to him.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:56am On Sep 20, 2022
feedthenation:
---because Trump can declassify documents doesn't give him the authority to keep them as his personal items---they still have to go through process of due diligence---

if you are employed, try to keep your company's documents when you leave, i guarantee you will be charged for theft and gross misconduct---
His passports , comms with his attorneys and medical records were seized by the FBI .
Maybe you can show us where its illegal for a President to keep his Presidential and personal records. In any case FBI had been there , looked at the documents and adviced him to add another lock to the secure storage,. They obtained the search warrant on a Friday claiming it was very urgent Then waited till Monday to go ransack the whole building with the Trump lawyer kept outside of the premises. They even asked for CCTV to be switched off. How sure we they did not plant anything?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:58am On Sep 20, 2022
Obrigardo:
Chai, i've never read an ignorantly stupid post in my life.
Only an idiot who doesn't know how America works can say something as hideous as this.

Let me type it in bold, NO US PRESIDENTS CAN DECLASSIFY NUCLEAR SECRETS.
Don't you know when the president declassifies government information it gets to the public domain,
You can now easily access it on your 4chan

Only an idiot who doesnt' know how America works thinks Nuclear secrets can be declassified.
go to school, and learn a basic understanding of English or comprehension before you respond to me.

your display of foolishness is outstanding.

so tell me? what is it that I said that you are refuting? Because you seem to state precisely what I was saying. there is a caveat in declassifying nuclear secrets, which is why the Media have been shouting Nuclear Secrets and foreign intelligence and spies.

I will throw a party if you go a day without being a junk head.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
budaatum:
I feel like an idiot every time I feel the need to respond to him.
because you are an idiot and you are displaying it again.

if you get sense you would know he is not countering anything I am saying.

I commend you for having the feeling that you are an idiot. that's the first step of your brain trying to function

Buda cannot comprehend a simple thing. he relies on Obrigardo a confirmed madman for explanation grin
There is a reason why the media was shouting nuclear secrets because that's where there is caveat on the president's executive privileges to declassify.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 12:12pm On Sep 20, 2022
budaatum:
I feel like an idiot every time I feel the need to respond to him.
Exactly! They feel incensed when they are pointed out for their disgusting hypocrisy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:13pm On Sep 20, 2022
budaatum:
I feel like an idiot every time I feel the need to respond to him.
TDS. I dont adore Trump . I sympathise with people like you who take propaganda at face value, ingest it until the propaganda flows in their blood.
Has Trump ever done anything positive according to you ? I doubt so dont try to force some of us to follow your shallow thinking which ends at Orange man bad. Some of us can see through the games the left is playing, but you cannot see for their target is the ultimate pinnacle of your hatred.
Such a pathetic life to lead , hating and trying to convince others to hate. Then acting like you know anything . When it comes to Economy Ben floors like you like a kindergarten kid.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 12:14pm On Sep 20, 2022
benalvino3:
because you are and idiot and you are displaying it again.

if you get sense you would know he is not countering anything I am saying.

I commend you for having the feeling that you are an idiot. that's the first step of your brain trying to function

Buda cannot comprehend simple thing. he relies on Obrigardo a confirmed mad man for explanation grin
Pleeeeeeeease get lost.
You were trying to give Criminal trump a wiggle room there. How can an ex president having nuclear secret documents of the US and another nation with him after his service sound well to you? But your hate is on how the press is covering it? Don't you see you have a deep moral flaw and hate issue?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:20pm On Sep 20, 2022
Obrigardo:
Pleeeeeeeease get lost.
You were trying to give Criminal trump a wiggle room there. How can an ex president having nuclear secret documents of the US and another nation with him after his service sound well to you? But your hate is on how the press is covering it? Don't you see you have a deep moral falw and hate issue?
You think Trump had nuclear weapon secrets to sell to the Russians or the Chinese. Absurd.
Why they did not collect them in June when they went through the documents earlier should not be a mystery,
Don Lemon is pushing his lies to you , that you swallow as the gospel truth, too bad he has been 'promoted' from prime time to morning show when people are going to work.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:25pm On Sep 20, 2022
Obrigardo:
Pleeeeeeeease get lost.
You were trying to give Criminal trump a wiggle room there. How can an ex president having nuclear secret documents of the US and another nation with him after his service sound well to you? But your hate is on how the press is covering it? Don't you see you have a deep moral flaw and hate issue?
Mumu, there is no nuclear secrets. You cannot corroborate that so is the media lying to you. You still following the Russia collusion?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
basilico:
You think Trump had nuclear weapon secrets to sell to the Russians or the Chinese. Absurd.
Why they did not collect them in June when they went through the documents earlier should not be a mystery,
Don Lemon is pushing his lies to you , that you swallow as the gospel truth, too bad he has been 'promoted' from prime time to morning show when people are going to work.
As I said, the media is pushing out those Nuclear weapons narative because that is where the presidential privilege to declassify is restricted. they don't have any Evidence of that, they don't have any evidence of CIA operatives or spies as part of the documents. those were being pushed to make people feel there is criminal conduct on Trump's side and to make it look like the FBI is onto something serious.

They used these same fake tactics with Russia collusion. But the Idiot whose brain has started letting him know he is an idiot will rely on Obrigardo to brainwash him grin idiot Indeed
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:40pm On Sep 20, 2022
benalvino3:
As I said, the media is pushing out those Nuclear weapons because that is where the presidential privilege to declassify is restricted. they don't have any Evidence of that, they don't have any evidence of CIA operatives or spies as part of the documents. those were being pushed to make people feel there is criminal conduct on Trump's side and to make it look like the FBI is onto something serious.

They used these same fake tactics with Russia collusion. But the Idiot whose brain has started letting him know he is an idiot will rely on Obrigardo to brainwash him grin idiot Indeed
Instead of worrying about the border, crime or China. The DOJ leaked to the media about the nuclear , the judge blocked them from accessing the documents until the Special Master is done , because she knows its a cordinated witchunt . They lie outright and the media amplifies the fake stories. Brainwashing Obrigardo $ Co.
To make it worse the Judge ordered the review to be complete long after the mid terms. DOJ wanted it over by Oct 17. I mean its all political games being played here by the most advanced banana republic in the world.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:52pm On Sep 20, 2022
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Banchotmods: 1:19pm On Sep 20, 2022
benalvino3:
because you are an idiot and you are displaying it again.

if you get sense you would know he is not countering anything I am saying.

I commend you for having the feeling that you are an idiot. that's the first step of your brain trying to function

Buda cannot comprehend a simple thing. he relies on Obrigardo a confirmed madman for explanation grin
oh ma ah gawd lawd. why ya isa do that nigga this ah way grin

budaatum ya is eaten alive ye kikikikiki
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 1:59pm On Sep 20, 2022
CoolUsername:
So what exactly were the riots for?



Cool, so why won't you condemn violence from BLM and Antifa as I did with the Jan 6 rioters? Why are we arguing in circles here?



Ok, since violence isn't justified. I'm sure as reasonable people we can agree the violence from BLM and Antifa wasn't justified either. I'm sure we can come together to condemn the Jan 6 rioters and the BLM/Antifa rioters, right?


Right?
False equivalence. BLM and Antifa was a protest that turned violent to protest the perceived injustice against blacks expecially after George Floyd was murdered. It had no political undertone as it was not organised by any politician

Jan 6 was organised to stop violently the certification of election results and distrupt the transfer of power to a new government. The goal of the organisers and rioters was to harm the Vice President, the speaker and other legislators who wants to certify the election results. It was in effect a coup to stop the transfer of power. In other countries the organisers and participants would be executed for treason.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by CoolUsername: 3:19pm On Sep 20, 2022
wirinet:
False equivalence. BLM and Antifa was a protest that turned violent to protest the perceived injustice against blacks expecially after George Floyd was murdered. It had no political undertone as it was not organised by any politician

Jan 6 was organised to stop violently the certification of election results and distrupt the transfer of power to a new government. The goal of the organisers and rioters was to harm the Vice President, the speaker and other legislators who wants to certify the election results. It was in effect a coup to stop the transfer of power. In other countries the organisers and participants would be executed for treason.
Wrong.

The planned event was to protest at the Capitol. Some extremists among the protesters broke in and damaged stuff. There was no grand conspiracy. It was a protest that got out of hand. I condemn the violence but it wasn't organised with violence as the end goal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:16pm On Sep 20, 2022
CoolUsername:
Wrong.

The planned event was to protest at the Capitol. Some extremists among the protesters broke in and damaged stuff. There was no grand conspiracy. It was a protest that got out of hand. I condemn the violence but it wasn't organised with violence as the end goal.
Wrong.

The event was a well planned and coordinated coup, designed to stop the certification of election results by Congress.

This was Steve Bannon a day before the January 6 riots.
https://youtube.com/shorts/t7rSZl0u2n4?feature=share


On the day of the protests itself Trump and his close aids cajoled to crowd to enter the Capitol. The speech by Trump and his aids was nothing less that a declaration of war.
https://youtube.com/shorts/QJ3V7pTKRbc?feature=share

Below was Trump's tweet on December 18, three weeks before the January 6 riots. Obviously they anticipated well in advance that it was going to be violent.

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