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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:35am On Sep 21, 2022
I would think the judge wants to see those documents because some were used to deceive him into signing a FISA warrant He can also tell whether the classification was meant to cover up the crooked FBI thugs ie Comey, McCabe etc Such that there was really no need to classify the documents. As for the Confidential Human sources being named some of them have been known publicly making it unnecessary to classify a document that has Igor Danchenko telling FBI that all his stories were made up in a bar yet the FBI covers that and presents it to the same judge Dearie. Judges dont like being taken for a ride unless they were in cahoots (likely? ) And this judge is about to retire , He can swing both sides.
If there is a processfor a sitting President to declassify, that has not been made clear.
The DOJ does not want the judge to see the documents instead they want to upload them to a portal or a dashboard.
The DOJ redacted the affidavit they used to raid Trump residence to almost complete irrrelevance.
Maybe there is no document mentioning nuclear at all, or if there its a matter of common knowledge for instance its generally known the number of all nuclear warheads every country has , that would not be a classified document .



feedthenation:
Former President Donald Trump’s battle with the FBI over its search of Mar-a-Lago has moved from South Florida to New York City, where a court-appointed “special master” on Tuesday indicated he has a very simple test for whether he sides with the Department of Justice.

The special master, Raymond J. Dearie, said Tuesday that if Trump’s lawyers don't officially counter whether the documents the former president took are classified, then Dearie will side with the DOJ.

“As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it,” he said.

Dearie, a semi-retired federal judge in Brooklyn who’s playing the role of temporary referee, wants to speed up the process and get federal agents back on track. And while Trump has been alleging on social media that he already declassified the records he swiped from the White House, Dearie is demanding that Trump put up or shut up. The senior judge is asking that Trump’s team assert—in sworn affidavits where lies could mean jail time—whether or not Trump actually declassified them.


---Judge Dearie was appointed by Ronald Reagan---a conservative of conservatives Judges---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:42am On Sep 21, 2022
basilico:
Is there a process to declassify is one thing that has not been made clear.
This level of ignorance is very tiring!

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12183
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:59am On Sep 21, 2022
budaatum:
This level of ignorance is very tiring!

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12183
Ignorance.? We know that Trump had handed declass powers to Bill Barr. Is it Bill Barr who brought those docs to his office. I also know Ric Grennel had declasssified some documents and handed them to Bill Barr

The names of Obama officials behind Michael Flynn's 'unmasking' is just one of several batches of intelligence being declassified by Acting DNI Director Ric Grenell; 'America's Newsroom' co-host Ed Henry reports.


Why did Samantha Powers the US Ambassador to the UN ( she refused to veto a UN resolutin against Israel) make hundreds and hundreds of unmasking requests of names when her job is more diplomatic than Security related?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:15am On Sep 21, 2022
basilico:
Ignorance.? We know that Trump had handed declass powers to Bill Barr. Is it Bill Barr who brought those docs to his office. I also know Ric Grennel....

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 6:01am On Sep 21, 2022
I’ll have to tune in to see what this is about.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 6:03am On Sep 21, 2022
Obrigardo:
Breaking - The Special Master just gave Criminal trump doggy style, Fvcked him real hard grin grin
He was too blinded by arrogance to see this coming.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 7:51am On Sep 21, 2022
1stGenAmerican:
He was too blinded by arrogance to see this coming.
The Criminal trump is just too fond of other criminals, and now he has cultists in the system who are and have made things easy for him.
But surely he will get indicted or taken out, he can never be in power again, who would be so stupid to let him in after all this lol
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 7:54am On Sep 21, 2022
1stGenAmerican:
I’ll have to tune in to see what this is about.
After settlement rejection, I believe a n Indictment is what she's going to announce or more crimes of Criminal trump unearthed or is she going to announce for a different case?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:01am On Sep 21, 2022
basilico:
I would think the judge wants to see those documents because some were used to deceive him into signing a FISA warrant He can also tell whether the classification was meant to cover up the crooked FBI thugs ie Comey, McCabe etc Such that there was really no need to classify the documents. As for the Confidential Human sources being named some of them have been known publicly making it unnecessary to classify a document that has Igor Danchenko telling FBI that all his stories were made up in a bar yet the FBI covers that and presents it to the same judge Dearie. Judges dont like being taken for a ride unless they were in cahoots (likely? ) And this judge is about to retire , He can swing both sides.
If there is a processfor a sitting President to declassify, that has not been made clear.
The DOJ does not want the judge to see the documents instead they want to upload them to a portal or a dashboard.
The DOJ redacted the affidavit they used to raid Trump residence to almost complete irrrelevance.
Maybe there is no document mentioning nuclear at all, or if there its a matter of common knowledge for instance its generally known the number of all nuclear warheads every country has , that would not be a classified document .
After all the nonsense you wrote you are ending it with "MAYBE there is no document or IF yadayadaya" and you see why I keep telling you you know nothing at all.
How many times have you seen me using maybe when it comes to Criminal trump? I tell you what is coming with available facts.
But you just trashy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:02am On Sep 21, 2022
Obrigardo:
After settlement rejection, I believe a n Indictment is what she's going to announce or more crimes of Criminal trump unearthed or is she going to announce for a different case?
I wish I knew. It could be either or all of those but I’m leaning towards more crimes.
Trump’s houseboys and housegirls ignored the fact that the innocent don’t usually proffer settlements.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:05am On Sep 21, 2022
budaatum:
Basilico will go and testify in court for dump. His eyewitness evidence should after all suffice, according to him.
grin grin grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:08am On Sep 21, 2022
1stGenAmerican:
I wish I knew. It could be either or all of those but I’m leaning towards more crimes.
Trump’s houseboys and housegirls ignored the fact that the innocent don’t usually proffer settlements.
Criminal trump always loves to settle. Thats one of his "legal skills" lol that basilico adores and obviously ignores reports about it.
Like the trump University scam, something a cultist like basilico will wish he never knew but he's perfectly ok with it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:14am On Sep 21, 2022
sanpipita:
cheesy reminds me of how he paid for those recounts when he lost.
That's why the RNC is broke right now lol grin
And also Russia is broke, so Criminal trump is using his cultists donations to pay his trusty lawyer lol grin

And don't forget the Saudi cash, the LIV golf, Jared kushners $2bn gift and Mnuchin $1bn gift. So he's banking on blood money.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:17am On Sep 21, 2022
basilico:
I would think the judge wants to see those documents because some were used to deceive him into signing a FISA warrant He can also tell whether the classification was meant to cover up the crooked FBI thugs ie Comey, McCabe etc Such that there was really no need to classify the documents. As for the Confidential Human sources being named some of them have been known publicly making it unnecessary to classify a document that has Igor Danchenko telling FBI that all his stories were made up in a bar yet the FBI covers that and presents it to the same judge Dearie. Judges dont like being taken for a ride unless they were in cahoots (likely? ) And this judge is about to retire , He can swing both sides.
If there is a processfor a sitting President to declassify, that has not been made clear.
The DOJ does not want the judge to see the documents instead they want to upload them to a portal or a dashboard.
The DOJ redacted the affidavit they used to raid Trump residence to almost complete irrrelevance.
Maybe there is no document mentioning nuclear at all, or if there its a matter of common knowledge for instance its generally known the number of all nuclear warheads every country has , that would not be a classified document .
Go and take your meds. A simple matter of proof of declassification, you have started a ramble
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IsSlyFoxxMad: 8:18am On Sep 21, 2022
1stGenAmerican:
I wish I knew. It could be either or all of those but I’m leaning towards more crimes.
Trump’s houseboys and housegirls ignored the fact that the innocent don’t usually proffer settlements.
Why not tell that dummy the truth as the educated lawyer you are? Or is Trump derangement more important? It’s a civil case and there will be no indictment lol.

The Trump deranged AG is probably going to announce another investigative rabbit hole she’s going to send you Trump deranged lunatics down for another few months to keep her political clout going until she announces she is running for governor which exactly what this is all about lol.

You guys will never learn no matter now many times you see this movie.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IsSlyFoxxMad: 8:19am On Sep 21, 2022
Obrigardo:
After settlement rejection, I believe a n Indictment is what she's going to announce or more crimes of Criminal trump unearthed or is she going to announce for a different case?
This Trump deranged dumbass doesn’t even know what a civil case is heheheh. Keep hoping oooo. The walls are closing in. We got him this time cheesy

Gosh Trump derangement is a real disease.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:28am On Sep 21, 2022
IsSlyFoxxMad:
This Trump deranged dumbass doesn’t even know what a civil case is heheheh. Keep hoping oooo. The walls are closing in. We got him this time cheesy

Gosh Trump derangement is a real disease.
I see you are back from the Ashawo forum on nairaland. Sources are saying you are so active in there and begging for money. Lol @gambojimeta grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IsSlyFoxxMad: 8:32am On Sep 21, 2022
Obrigardo:
I see you are back from the Ashawo forum on nairaland. Sources are saying you are so active in there and begging for money. Lol @gambojimeta grin grin
You think I’m like your slutty mother that always begs for extra money after taking hard d!ck?

Show me the screenshot of me begging for money or die before 24 hours. Bastard. Omo ale. Trump obsessed jobless fool.

I was out of town on major business only to come back here and see you still sucking Trumps d!ck. What a pathetic life your living boy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:37am On Sep 21, 2022
IsSlyFoxxMad:
You think I’m like your slutty mother that always begs for extra money after taking hard d!ck?

Show me the screenshot of me begging for money or die before 24 hours. Bastard. Omo ale. Trump obsessed jobless fool.

I was out of town on major business only to come back here and see you still sucking Trumps d!ck. What a pathetic life your living boy.
Stop smoking, it's ruining your brain cells
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IsSlyFoxxMad: 8:38am On Sep 21, 2022
Obrigardo:
Stop smoking, it's ruining your brain cells
I smoke every night to give me the power to give your mother hot doggy. Just the way she likes it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:37am On Sep 21, 2022
Obrigardo:
After all the nonsense you wrote you are ending it with "MAYBE there is no document or IF yadayadaya" and you see why I keep telling you you know nothing at all.
How many times have you seen me using maybe when it comes to Criminal trump? I tell you what is coming with available facts.
But you just trashy.
Were crimes committed by FBI top brass in the Russia hoax? If so there are lot of documents because they was sure Clinton would in . Thats why they classified some of them
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:50am On Sep 21, 2022
IsSlyFoxxMad:
This Trump deranged dumbass doesn’t even know what a civil case is heheheh. Keep hoping oooo. The walls are closing in. We got him this time cheesy

Gosh Trump derangement is a real disease.
They are looking for anything for anything. If you take a loan the lender is supposed to do the valuation.
If you are selling a property, you overvalue it to get the best deal, If you want more money from a loan you overvallue the property , no property has a fixed price. Someone might want a property because its a beach front and will pay any crazy money. You cannot fix market prices in a free society.

I have not heard of anywhere that Trump overstated property value, got a loan and defaulted.,

His Finance guy has been harrassed that he was receiving benefits from the Org until he agreed to a plea deal.

Democrats are satanic and evil. Cheered on by Obrigardo and Budaatum.
Very impervious to reasoning.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by CoolUsername: 11:50am On Sep 21, 2022
Maybe it was a bad idea for the President to paint his political opponents as extremists.

We'll see how this one develops...

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IsSlyFoxxMad: 12:00pm On Sep 21, 2022
basilico:
They are looking for anything for anything. If you take a loan the lender is supposed to do the valuation.
If you are selling a property, you overvalue it to get the best deal, If you want more money from a loan you overvallue the property , no property has a fixed price. Someone might want a property because its a beach front and will pay any crazy money. You cannot fix market prices in a free society.

I have not heard of anywhere that Trump overstated property value, got a loan and defaulted.,

His Finance guy has been harrassed that he was receiving benefits from the Org until he agreed to a plea deal.

Democrats are satanic and evil. Cheered on by Obrigardo and Budaatum.
Very impervious to reasoning.
. It’s honestly a shame what America has turned into. And some fools here are cheering it all because of Trump hate not thinking of the larger consequences of this.

For 7 years running now the justice and intelligence systems of the US have been weaponized against one man for political reasons. Endless investigations that make you ask if he is so guilty why they find it so hard to just indict him and take him to court to properly defend himself? But of course it’s not about that. They don’t want to even give him that chance. It’s all about damaging him politically so he never runs again.

A step as drastic as raiding a former presidents house that should only be taken at the tail end of an investigation after you have already amassed enough evidence to indict him was instead taken to begin an investigation even some hosts on CNN could not believe it.

Investigations should be launched after identifying a crime to look for the culprits. But in Trumps case investigations are always launched with the sole purpose of finding a crime. Any crime what so ever. It’s real third world stuff but I believe the democrats will regret setting this precedent very dearly.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:13pm On Sep 21, 2022
basilico:
Very impervious to reasoning.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:17pm On Sep 21, 2022
CoolUsername:
Maybe it was a bad idea for the President to paint his political opponents as extremists.

We'll see how this one develops...
Sadly this is the lie most of them believe.

People who have showed signs of extremism here are

1: Ibime
2: pride of lincoln
3: saliford

Ibime, the first time he saw what i posted and he disagrees with, he started trying to dig dirt on me from the internet.
another time, he said if My buddy whom i spent time with at Birmingham Knew i was a trump supporter, he would have spat on my face and kick me out.

I told him, I have all sorts of friends... and we all respect each other's political corner. We can argue and discuss it... but that is where it ends.

saliford and Pride of Lincoln literally hoped for gun men to kill men grin

these guys head no correct.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by CoolUsername: 12:33pm On Sep 21, 2022
benalvino3:
Sadly this is the lie most of them believe.

People who have showed signs of extremism here are

1: Ibime
2: pride of lincoln
3: saliford

Ibime, the first time he saw what i posted and he disagrees with, he started trying to dig dirt on me from the internet.
another time, he said if My buddy whom i spent time with at Birmingham Knew i was a trump supporter, he would have spat on my face and kick me out.

I told him, I have all sorts of friends... and we all respect each other's political corner. We can argue and discuss it... but that is where it ends.

saliford and Pride of Lincoln literally hoped for gun men to kill men grin

these guys head no correct.
99% of the "tough guys" you see on the internet are just keyboard warriors. They can't and won't say any of those things to your face.

These people believe Twitter and Reddit are accurate representations of the real world and conclude that your friend would hate you for supporting Trump. I hang with some ultra-progressive people and they know I don't buy into the 'orange man bad' or 'blame whites for all our problems' mentality. However, we still find common ground and communicate like adults.

Just because media and academia have been astroturfed to hell by commies doesn't mean that liberals and conservatives aren't still close to 50-50 split in America. People go on online echo-chambers and think their dumbass ideas are popular.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:38pm On Sep 21, 2022
CoolUsername:
99% of the "tough guys" you see on the internet are just keyboard warriors. They can't and won't say any of those things to your face.

These people believe Twitter and Reddit are accurate representations of the real world and conclude that your friend would hate you for supporting Trump. I hang with some ultra-progressive people and they know I don't buy into the 'orange man bad' or 'blame whites for all our problems' mentality. However, we still find common ground and communicate like adults.

Just because media and academia have been astroturfed to hell by commies doesn't mean that liberals and conservatives aren't still close to 50-50 split in America. People go on online echo-chambers and think their dumbass ideas are popular.
unfortunately, Ibime is not an adult, he is a man-child who run around trying to dig dirt on people he would probably never meet in life because they don't believe orange man bad.

Budaatum is silent about this.
the other day he cited Charlottesville as a reason why trump would cause a war in Nigeria, because someone, a trump supporter Ran over people with his car. he is not saying a word. he believes a Nazi is dead, a MAGA republican is dead.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:40pm On Sep 21, 2022
IsSlyFoxxMad:
. It’s honestly a shame what America has turned into. And some fools here are cheering it all because of Trump hate not thinking of the larger consequences of this.

For 7 years running now the justice and intelligence systems of the US have been weaponized against one man for political reasons. Endless investigations that make you ask if he is so guilty why they find it so hard to just indict him and take him to court to properly defend himself? But of course it’s not about that. They don’t want to even give him that chance. It’s all about damaging him politically so he never runs again.

A step as drastic as raiding a former presidents house that should only be taken at the tail end of an investigation after you have already amassed enough evidence to indict him was instead taken to begin an investigation even some hosts on CNN could not believe it.

Investigations should be launched after identifying a crime to look for the culprits. But in Trumps case investigations are always launched with the sole purpose of finding a crime. Any crime what so ever. It’s real third world stuff but I believe the democrats will regret setting this precedent very dearly.
Trump does not help me but I hate seeing how the left is unhinged . Why do they want him so badly. Investigations all over for anything
I have never really understood the danger he poses to the left. I am sure if it was Jeb Bush He would not be under all that.

Or maybe when these America give out aid Some percentage is shipped back into offshore accounts. When a war is started the MIC throws kickbacks to the legislators on both sides but of the establishment.

A whole media does nothing than make Trump look bad from morning to morning. How he managed to get 75m with all those negative pieces on MSM and Big Tech drowning out his reach is a mystery. I think the Dems stole a lot for Biden and the voters will be more vigilant this time,, scaring them to death.
Some like Obrigardo literally foam at the mouth over Trump,
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:04pm On Sep 21, 2022
benalvino3:
Budaatum is silent about this.
buda is waiting for more information. Glad to see buda's opinion is relevent to you though.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:10pm On Sep 21, 2022
budaatum:
buda is waiting for more information. Glad to see buda's opinion is relevent to you though.
The killer chased the young man. Obviously with the intention of harming him. The young man called his mother to say he was being chased,
This killer ( most likely a Democrat ) of course goes on to claim that the youngman was part of a Domestic Extremists ( read MAGA) in order to get sympathy IMO.
Joe Biden to blame for this ?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:12pm On Sep 21, 2022
basilico:
The killer chased the young man. Obviously with the intention of harming him. The young man called his mother to say he was being chased,
This killer ( most likely a Democrat ) of course goes on to claim that the youngman was part of a Domestic Extremists ( read MAGA) in order to get sympathy IMO.
Joe Biden to blame for this ?
You were there of course, hence your 'eyewitness evidence'. But you are just going to have to wait till I get evidence from more credible people than you.
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