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Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by GEEBITE: 11:41am On Sep 23, 2022
Dont be quick to applaud him..The job role is Chief Medical Director and it requires both medical and managerial experiences with qualifications. It is not limited to hospital administration alone but involves policy formulation, control measures, research and development. How can somebody without medical background be a proper fit for this role. It is also a national hospital not like those medical tourisms ones in Dubai and India.
The guy claimed in the past he has only briefly lived in Dubai ,I wonder where he has got the notion he is spouting there as being the global best practice.
Period007:

Normally you are a very intelligent fellow buh your only shortcomings is religion and tribalism.
Work on that,and the sky will be your limits
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by lukency(m): 11:45am On Sep 23, 2022
If they like, let them impose yusuf who's not even a medical doctor, who cares? Who NH Help? Our prayers to God is that may we not fall sick to be taking to that facility where you must know officials to get quick access to treatment.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by BABANGBALI: 11:49am On Sep 23, 2022
Very useless government
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by bigtt76(f): 11:51am On Sep 23, 2022
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy very true ...none really but even with political appointees, they are only the voice and face of the ministry and not the technical mind. We should blame the technocrats within the ministries for failures and ofcourse the political appointee for not identifying ineptitude in the technocrats


GardenOfGod:

Can you sincerely point out any Ministry in Nigeria that is effectively working?

All of them are political appointees, and so, they are they for their own personal benefits.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by hairyman(m): 11:54am On Sep 23, 2022
Moh247:
cool



Doctors should not be CMD of an hospital, it's a managerial role... Babangida started this absolute nonsense

Almost all best hospitals in the world have Managers and executive with management skills not Medical skills


hospital administrators, patient care managers, and practice are all qualified professionals


.

It is the primary reason why our healthcare sector is dying. It will continue to deteriorate until that provision is repealed.

It is far more pervasive than the CMD position!

Professional administrators should manage our healthcare system but ofcourse Africans will call it envy and attack on a profession.

It is like making an Auto Engineer the manager of a car manufacturing plant because he knows how to repair cars. And according to them, said mechanic should also administer all tool making subsidiaries because they direct how said tools are used when repairing cars.

It is just terrible.

But I can't tell which is worse between the travesty of management and the fact that occasionally, when they go on strike, they list poor hospital conditions as one of their reasons. The fact they manage the health sector and predictably mess it up entirely then have the audacity to blame it one someone else is just stratospherically ballsy.

Eventually, someone will grow some sense and remove that decree. I don't think that the time is too far.

But the damage it has done so far is horrific. For clarification, in the 60s and 70s, Arab kings come to Nigeria for medical care.
Today Nigerians go to GHANA when they are seriously sick, or fly abroad if they can afford it.

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Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by israelmao(m): 12:07pm On Sep 23, 2022
The last ditch effort for Mr.Lifeless to spread his tentacles everywhere before his finally returns to Daura.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Nobody: 12:09pm On Sep 23, 2022
bigtt76:
A lawyer handling Labour ministry is because labour involves more of arbitration and ensuring the rights of the labour force ....who do you suggest should be minister of labour? A farmer or a labourer? Some one knowledgeable in labour rights and administration works there but that person should also be versed in law. I agree the current minister may have been too overzealous in handling the post but he is still a good fit.

BTW - Ngige is a medical doctor though cheesy


Ngige also has a postgraduate qualification in administration. (not his fan, before you start).
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Nobody: 12:13pm On Sep 23, 2022
hairyman:


It is the primary reason why our healthcare sector is dying. It will continue to deteriorate until that provision is repealed.

It is far more pervasive than the CMD position!

Professional administrators should manage our healthcare system but ofcourse Africans will call it envy and attack on a profession.

It is like making an Auto Engineer the manager of a car manufacturing plant because he knows how to repair cars. And according to them, said mechanic should also administer all tool making subsidiaries because they direct how said tools are used when repairing cars.

It is just terrible.

But I can't tell which is worse between the travesty of management and the fact that occasionally, when they go on strike, they list poor hospital conditions as one of their reasons. The fact they manage the health sector and predictably mess it up entirely then have the audacity to blame it one someone else is just stratospherically ballsy.

Eventually, someone will grow some sense and remove that decree. I don't think that the time is too far.

But the damage it has done so far is horrific. For clarification, in the 60s and 70s, Arab kings come to Nigeria for medical care.
Today Nigerians go to GHANA when they are seriously sick, or fly abroad if they can afford it.



The problem with healthcare in Nigeria is money, and not bad administration.

(Note, I agree hospitals should be run by administrators).

Even if you replace CMD with admin people, it still does not change the fact that we need a budget of over 100 billion dollars to have adequate health care in this country, not the 3-4 billion we spend for this country...and on top of that fees are heavily subsidised...meaning hospitals cannot earn enough of a profit to fix and upgrade things.

We don't have enough money, and what little we have is spent heavily on subsides...including health care. Meanwhile countries with quality healthcare spend heavily...either from massive taxation or high hospital fees.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by LadyExcellency: 12:13pm On Sep 23, 2022
Moh247:
cool



Doctors should not be the CMD of a hospital, it's a managerial role... Babangida started this absolute nonsense

Almost all the best hospitals in the world have Managers and executives with management skills, not Medical skills


hospital administrators, patient care managers, and practice are all qualified professionals
.

This your opinion is what is killing practical Science and Engineering.

Management and Administrator should be distinct to a trade. From the information deduced from the publication, you will see that Mr. Ragi is disqualified not for his medical expertise but for lack of added hands-on administrative skill.

Getting an MBA is not rocket science.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by bigtt76(f): 12:15pm On Sep 23, 2022
cheesy cheesy cheesy not his fan either but good thing he got qualification in administration ..I guess its public administration too which fits in for the role he currently plays albeit incompetently cheesy cheesy


Kasssandra:


Ngige also has a postgraduate qualification in administration. (not his fan, before you start).
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Nobody: 12:23pm On Sep 23, 2022
bigtt76:
cheesy cheesy cheesy not his fan either but good thing he got qualification in administration ..I guess its public administration too which fits in for the role he currently plays albeit incompetently cheesy cheesy



As for the ASUU strike, both government and ASUU are trying to avoid stating the obvious...that fees may have to go up to pay for extra university funding (That has been the issue since 2013, when GEJ told ASUU that he did not have the finances to meet the 2009 agreement).

If Ngige announces a fee increase, the government would be labelled evil. If ASUU supports a fee increase, it loses face.

Either way, I don't see how government is going to find billions to pay off ASUU...or indeed pay off any government union that goes on strike...without either increasing fees, increasing taxes, removing subsides on petrol, or all three together.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by hairyman(m): 12:40pm On Sep 23, 2022
Kasssandra:




The problem with healthcare in Nigeria is money, and not bad administration.

(Note, I agree hospitals should be run by administrators).

Even if you replace CMD with admin people, it still does not change the fact that we need a budget of over 100 billion dollars to have adequate health care in this country, not the 3-4 billion we spend for this country...and on top of that fees are heavily subsidised...meaning hospitals cannot earn enough of a profit to fix and upgrade things.

We don't have enough money, and what little we have is spent heavily on subsides...including health care. Meanwhile countries with quality healthcare spend heavily...either from massive taxation or high hospital fees.

I happen to be a medical equipment dealer.
I can assure you that money is not the problem.

As an example, a public hospital would normally budget between 50million to 100 million for an XRAY room! They routinely make you sign off 10 million for a dental chair that costs one third of that.

I once lost a contract because I quoted the true cost of an equipment (specific reason why I don't do supplies in addition to the fact that you may never get paid) in comparison with another contractor who quoted 5x the cost (based on my quote, there would have been no means of settling the CMD and the board)

During covid, hospitals quoted 700k for hospital bed of 180k.

Money is not the problem with the Nigerian health sector. Concerning availability of resources, corruption is the problem. But in respect of its decay, management is the problem.

P.S Subsidy would entail a good quality healthcare system at a lower cost because someone else, maybe the government bears part of the cost.
It does not imply low quality healthcare.

P.S.S These huge quotes about how much we need are based on inflated figures which are equally based on the high cost of healthcare equipment and care in America and Europe which should not apply here (basically we don't share the same cost of living in the least. Someone receiving a 1 million naira salary here is a big man, while it is less than rent in the US)

A piss poor third world country like Nigeria will request that you supply no Chinese product. Only American and European specs are acceptable per health sector policy.

Having told you about this policy with a serious face, they will meet you later and ask you to find a means of changing the Chinese sticker on the Chinese product so that it can read made in England. Huge kickbacks for everyone involved right.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by bigtt76(f): 12:46pm On Sep 23, 2022
You aptly captured the issues. This are the problems stunting our growth as a nation. Government knows what to do but chose to politicize it to gain favour at the detriment of the people. The Unions and Labour congress too don't help matters ...they all know that option is the best but will want to guilty trip government by saying they are selling national treasures even when they are in bad state ...crazy Are UK universities owned by UK government? The earlier we all see reasons and let go off subsidies, the better for us all.



Kasssandra:


As for the ASUU strike, both government and ASUU are trying to avoid stating the obvious...that fees may have to go up to pay for extra university funding (That has been the issue since 2013, when GEJ told ASUU that he did not have the finances to meet the 2009 agreement).

If Ngige announces a fee increase, the government would be labelled evil. If ASUU supports a fee increase, it loses face.

Either way, I don't see how government is going to find billions to pay off ASUU...or indeed pay off any government union that goes on strike...without either increasing fees, increasing taxes, removing subsides on petrol, or all three together.

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Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Nobody: 12:53pm On Sep 23, 2022
hairyman:


I happen to be a medical equipment dealer.
I can assure you that money is not the problem.

As an example, a public hospital would normally budget between 50million to 100 million for an XRAY room! They routinely make you sign off 10 million for a dental chair that costs one third of that.

I once lost a contract because I quoted the true cost of an equipment (specific reason why I don't do supplies in addition to the fact that you may never get paid) in comparison with another contractor who quoted 5x the cost (based on my quote, there would have been no means of settling the CMD and the board)

During covid, hospitals quoted 700k for hospital bed of 180k.

Money is not the problem with the Nigerian health sector. Concerning availability of resources, corruption is the problem. But in respect of its decay, management is the problem.

P.S Subsidy would entail a good quality healthcare system at a lower cost because someone else, maybe the government bears part of the cost.
It does not imply low quality healthcare.

P.S.S These huge quotes about how much we need are based on inflated figures which are equally based on the high cost of healthcare equipment and care in America and Europe which should not apply here (basically we don't share the same cost of living in the least. Someone receiving a 1 million naira salary here is a big man, while it is less than rent in the US)

A piss poor third world country like Nigeria will request that you supply no Chinese product. Only American and European specs are acceptable per health sector policy.

Having told you about this policy with a serious face, they will meet you later and ask you to find a means of changing the Chinese sticker on the Chinese product so that it can read made in England. Huge kickbacks for everyone involved right.

The corruption you mention is only a small part of the problem...it's bigger than you think.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Indispensable85(m): 12:59pm On Sep 23, 2022
Is the CMD position elective or appointive? Mumu people!
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Tareq1105: 1:02pm On Sep 23, 2022
Allison012:
Make buhari kuku appoint himself as the CMD.

Buhari is unrepentant.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by rumenase(m): 1:04pm On Sep 23, 2022
Racoon:
Two wrongs does not make a right. Many medical doctors and healthcare workers have left and many will still leave this country. For the few remaining, let things be done right. Nigeria have suffered enough.
youre wasting your time explaining for that dry empty coconut head
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by CaptainAyub: 1:12pm On Sep 23, 2022
Moh247:
cool



Doctors should not be CMD of an hospital, it's a managerial role... Babangida started this absolute nonsense

Almost all best hospitals in the world have Managers and executive with management skills not Medical skills


hospital administrators, patient care managers, and practice are all qualified professionals


.
Buhari supporter ,senseless as usual.
In those hospitals abroad where there are hospital administrators(CE) ,there's equally an MD who is even more powerful than the administrator/CE.
Nigeria operates a system where the MD and CE are merged together

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Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Originalwafi: 1:17pm On Sep 23, 2022
Hmm

Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by adioolayi(m): 1:24pm On Sep 23, 2022
“Dr Mahmud Raji does not have any administrative experience. He has never been a head of a department. So he does not qualify to be the CMD of the National hospital."

I like being objective.....is having administrative experience part of the requirements as stated in the advertorials

What we read is....being a consultant for over 10years and being a fellow of some body approved by Nigeria Medical and Dental Council...


If the man meets the requirements as advertised...why will you screen him out because he has never been an HOD... something you didn't put in the advert.....Changing the goal posts at the middle of the match is uncalled for...

If he failed the interview...it's a different story..you can't screen him out on parameters not advertised.


God bless Nigeria
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by aspabay(m): 1:39pm On Sep 23, 2022
Misleading report.

So because he treated Yusuf Buhari, he is not qualified to head the national hospital.

Nigerians and hypocrisy.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by haslaw(m): 2:35pm On Sep 23, 2022
ValCon888:
Nothing about this Buhari's government surprises me anymore. If he likes let him appoint bandit leader as head of the Nigerian army that's his business.

Nigerians will still outlive and outlast him and his family.

Most of YUO Igbos are just too emotional.

So because the man treated Yusuf Buhari it automatically means he is no longer qualified for the job?
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by HRMK: 2:36pm On Sep 23, 2022
that is nigeria for you!!
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Xman12345goat: 2:47pm On Sep 23, 2022
No one from south east
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by OctavianAC(m): 3:37pm On Sep 23, 2022
Is it not this hospital that Aisha Buhari said they don't have paracetamol?
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by Painsoother(m): 3:55pm On Sep 23, 2022
bigtt76:
A lawyer handling Labour ministry is because labour involves more of arbitration and ensuring the rights of the labour force ....who do you suggest should be minister of labour? A farmer or a labourer? Some one knowledgeable in labour rights and administration works there but that person should also be versed in law. I agree the current minister may have been too overzealous in handling the post but he is still a good fit.

BTW - Ngige is a medical doctor though cheesy

He was referring to SAN Kayemo, state labour minister of ass lickers
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by caye(m): 5:06pm On Sep 23, 2022
StrongAlphMale:
This is exactly why Nigeria urgently needs Peter obi so that all these nonsense will stop.

A vote for peter Obi is a vote for better Nigeria. Vote wisely

The greatest mistake an African can make is to ascribe the qualities of the Supreme Deity to humans, in seeking for guidance on the rule of humans.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by AnanseK(m): 6:06pm On Sep 23, 2022
Racoon:
Another nepotic appointment being schemed up by the government and its cabal. The trademark zero tolerance for merit and competence under the Buhari regime
Obasanjo appointed the Dr. Treating him while in prison as the CMD National Hospital Abuja, General Abdussalam appointed his Doctor as Minister of Health as soon as he became head of state. Mrs. Maryam Abacha tried for her Doctor, ended in helping him to build a private hospital. It is all over. Even the Sardauna Appointed his personal physician Dr. Ishaya Audu as the first indigenous Vice Chancellor of A.B.U. Zaria.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by GardenOfGod(m): 7:52pm On Sep 23, 2022
bigtt76:
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy very true ...none really but even with political appointees, they are only the voice and face of the ministry and not the technical mind. We should blame the technocrats within the ministries for failures and ofcourse the political appointee for not identifying ineptitude in the technocrats


Those Ministers are not only the voice of the ministries... They are the head... They report directly to the president. If an organization is not functioning, the blame goes to the leadership of that organization. Those politicians are the reason why we have redundant and ineffective ministries and parastatals.
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by bigtt76(f): 8:02pm On Sep 23, 2022
Ooh cheesy cheesy cheesy


Painsoother:
He was referring to SAN Kayemo, state labour minister of ass lickers
Re: Dr. Mahmud Raji To Be Imposed As CMD Of National Hospital - DAILY NIGERIAN by mankan2k7(m): 8:34pm On Sep 23, 2022
Doctors have no business to head hospitals in saner clime but instead people who are vast in administration are appointed to head hospital affairs. Unfortunately, Ransome Kuti favoured doctors to be appointed as the CMD and since then the health sector has slided into a state of comatose.
The proposed adjustment to federal teaching hospital bill currently in the legislative chambers will put an end to the current impunity perpetrated by CMD and better service delivery for the patients will be achieved.

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