TenQ:

There is nothing special with you quoting scriptures and intact, you didn't quote any scripture. You quoted scripture references!

Give your own practical advice based on the scriptures QED!

You are the one thinking quoting scriptures is some special act to begin with. I am simply pointing out what Jesus Christ Himself taught as regards the subject of discussion. And how much more practical can that not get?

Kobojunkie:
You are the one thinking quoting scriptures is some special act to begin with. I am simply pointing out what Jesus Christ Himself taught as regards the subject of discussion. And how much more practical can that not get?

State what Jesus taught or forever hold your mouth and words to yourself.
Something is certainly wrong with your personality. How dare you attack someone helping another flock of Christ without you lifting up a finger to help!

TenQ:

So that in knowing more of Christ and His words, she can apply her hearts to wisdom.
You said no! It'sans doctrine!!

Oh, so reading your Bible is now knowing more of Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ said that to know Him one has to use the understanding one has of Him, not read more of scripture though. You can read all of that book like your pastors and mogs claim they do yearly and still never know Him of His Truth.

TenQ:

State what Jesus taught or forever hold your mouth and words to yourself.
Something is certainly wrong with your personality. How dare you attack someone helping another flock of Christ without you lifting up a finger to help!

Most every reference I have posted so far has been from the Gospel teachings or Jesus Christ yet you rejected every one of them for reasons known to you.

Are you certain my personality is the problem here cause you seem to think by attacking me yet never in fact considering any of what I infact stated, you are made right in this..

Kobojunkie:
Oh, so reading your Bible is now knowing more of Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ said that to know Him one has to use the understanding one has of Him, not read more of scripture though. You can read all of that book like your pastors and mogs claim they do yearly and still never know Him of His Truth.

It isn't!
Listening to you will help one know Christ better!

Give a word of help to the sister rather than being a stumbling block to salvation of others

TenQ:

It isn't! Listening to you will help one know Christ better!

Give a word of help to the sister rather than being a stumbling block to salvation of others

Again, if what Jesus Christ teaches irks you, then I suggest you take it up with Him.

Kobojunkie:
Most every reference I have posted so far has been from the Gospel teachings or Jesus Christ yet you rejected every one of them for reasons known to you.

You could as well have giving her a link to read online bible.

Something is certainly wrong with your personality. You'll be a caustic and difficult person to live with.

I don't want you to derail the OP's thread!

TenQ:
You could as well have giving her a link to read online bible.

Something is certainly wrong with your personality. You'll be a caustic and difficult person to live with.

I don't want you to derail the OP's thread!

Read the bible to what end? Again, Jesus Christ warned people against being like the pharisees who search the scriptures for eternal life but never find it because they don't understand and know God. You cannot know Jesus Christ by reading your Bible. Jesus Christ told you this. So why do you keep prescribing that?

Jen96:
My story is a long one but I will be brief. So I discovered I had a marine spirit recently. Prior to that, I only knew I had spirit husband, who slept with me everytime. It got to a point my private part will even be paining me, but I never paid attention to my dreams.

Recently, I noticed that anytime I slept prior to my deliverance a snake was always crawling on me. I started fasting and praying cos nothing was working for me, they blocked everywhere till I answer their call. That's when I saw it clearly that I was part human, part snake in d spirit. Their calling became stronger everyday... But I went for deliverance n I saw myself vomiting in my dream n spirit husband hasn't come, neither has the snake. And I haven't felt them calling me .

My question is who has successfully done deliverance from marine n how are u sustaining your deliverance? I will also want to know how you knew you ere marine. Mine came from my foundation.
Please @enthronedbyGod1 help me

Did you try the ECK way of resolving this? A short for it is, learn how to sing HU (pronounced "Hue) from the Eckankar Website via this link https://www.eckankar.org/experience/hu-the-sound-of-soul/

The HU may not eliminate it overnight and it may do so. Just know that divine spirit gave you the best for the current moment. This can come in many ways.


Cheers.

mysticwarrior:
I used to hear about people having marine wife and husband's and laugh about it.

There was a time I was experiencing, delay, set back, and near success syndrome in my life. I went to a church and the pastor said I have a spiritual wife, immediately he said that I got angry and left his presence immediately, in my mind I was like "what nonsense".

There was a restaurant I used to patronised them and I once saved the owners daughter from being hit by a car, and since then she became very greatful. she called me one day and told me that there is a woman following me, and that if am about to enter a church she would wait for me outside and after I leave the church she would start following me again.

I was mystified and asked her to explain, and she said its a spiritual wife from marine kingdom, she told me to observe things surrounding my life, and go for deliverance, I went home that day confused.

I started looked at my life deeply, taking note of every happenings in my dreams and in the physical, I noticed that if I woke up In the middle of the night to go ease myself I would be perceiving a very strong female perfume, this is between 12 am and 33am in the night.

As a young man i fancy male jewelries like necklaces and bracelets and i have lots of them, but noticed some unenxpainable disapearance of these jewelries, especally my neclaces and bracletes, even my atm cards. I would see a woman coming to me in my dreams and when that happens all the good things am expecting would be shattered.

I followed a friend to another church and again the pastor told me I have a spiritual wife, and I was convinced after the third confirmation.

I went for a strong deliverance, and after the deliverance I was no longer percieving the perfumes, no more woman coming to me in my dreams, things started working well for me, to my surprise I saw two of my necklaces, three bracelets and my ATM card at the corner of my bed three days after the deliverance.

I heard that spiritual spouses would often take away things like necklaces, rings, bracelets, and beads from the one they are tormenting, and they would return those items back after the deliverance.

This is my personal experience please if you don't believe things like this happens don't quote me.

pls how dd u get delivered n how r u maintaining it?

TenQ:

You could as well have giving her a link to read online bible.

Something is certainly wrong with your personality. You'll be a caustic and difficult person to live with.

I don't want you to derail the OP's thread!

���� I ddnt even bother.

LilMissFavvy:
Idols are god's which our fore father's submitted and pledged allegiance to, am I correct? Idols are of different types. Those who appeased them in those days worshiped them as idols. Some worship marine, appease it, that's their family idol.

What's wrong with that?

Kobojunkie:
From what exactly?

The only deliverance Jesus Christ spoke to folks of is the abandoning of Old ways to begin following of the New way and that happens before one becomes born-again. Your deliverance rituals in your churches are nothing but pagan rituals which have nothing to do with Jesus Christ this since no one who already belongs to Jesus Christ can be shackled to begin with by evil spirits.

are you a christain...if you are not comfortable with others advice. kindly profer your own solution.

ojaysam25:
are you a christain...

Are you instead trying to insist that Jesus Christ's teachings regarding all these things aren't good enough?,

Kobojunkie:
Are you instead trying to insist that Jesus Christ's teachings regarding all these things aren't good enough?,

what is jesus teaching on this. perharps i dont know. can you help us out.

ojaysam25:

what is jesus teaching on this. perharps i dont know. can you help us out.

I stated it clearly in the post you responded to.

Kobojunkie:
I stated it clearly in the post you responded to.

ok. what of the deliveranc jesus wrought on the madman of gadara. are you saying praying and studying the words are not jesus teachings.

ojaysam25:

ok. what of the deliveranc jesus wrought on the madman of gadara. are you saying praying and studying the words are not jesus teachings.

The madman was not a believer. Op claims to be a believer in Jesus Christ and even claims to have been delivered.

Jesus Christ never said it is by praying and reading your Bible that you are delivered. He instead taught it is by trusting Him that that takes place for those who believe in Him. Even where it concerns faith, the only way to acquire that is through continuous submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - there is no other way.

Kobojunkie:
The madman was not a believer. Op claims to be a believer in Jesus Christ and even claims to have been delivered.

Jesus Christ never said it is by praying and reading your Bible that you are delivered. He instead taught it is by trusting Him that that takes place for those who believe in Him. Even where it concerns faith, the only way to acquire that is through continuous submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - there is no other way.

ok. is it wrong for her to pray as a believer.

Kobojunkie:
The madman was not a believer. Op claims to be a believer in Jesus Christ and even claims to have been delivered.

Jesus Christ never said it is by praying and reading your Bible that you are delivered. He instead taught it is by trusting Him that that takes place for those who believe in Him. Even where it concerns faith, the only way to acquire that is through continuous submission to and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - there is no other way.

how could she know the teaching and commandment of jesus christ.

ojaysam25:

ok. is it wrong for her to pray as a believer.

It isn't wrong IF done in accordance to the commandments of Jesus Christ.

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Here is a summary of sorts of some of the New Covenant teachings and commandments given by Jesus Christ where Prayer is concerned

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■ Ask, Seek and Knock, in order to receive, find and have the door opened to you[b]Matthew 7 vs 7[/b]
■ Pray continuously. I.e. don't stop asking, seeking, knocking until you have received, found, and had the door opened to you Matthew 21 vs 22 & Luke 18 vs 1- 8
■ Avoid vain repetitions because God knows what you want even before you ask Him Matthew 6 vs 7 - 8
■ Always pray in secret and in hiding Matthew 6 vs 6
■ Pray the Lord's prayer-Matthew 6 vs 9- 13
■ Forgive everyone who has hurt or offended you before you pray so your father in Heaven will forgive you your sins- Matthew 11 vs 25 & Matthew 6 vs 12
■ Always approach God in Humility-
Luke 18 vs 9 - 4
■ Believe that you have received what you ask for and it shall be done for you
Matthew 21 vs 22 & Mark 11 vs 24
■ Ask the Father in the name of Jesus Christ
John 15 vs 16
■ If you abide in Him and He, Jesus, abides in you, then He, Jesus Christ, will do whatever you ask in His name John 14 vs 13-14 & john 15 vs 7
■ Pray for your enemies - Matthew 5 vs 44 & Luke 6 vs 27- 28
■ Ask God for the Holy Spirit -
Luke 11 vs 13 & Matthew 7 vs 11

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As Jesus Christ said, those who love Him are, not those who go around mouthing off what they do, but instead, take who submit to and obey His teachings- John 14 vs 23 - 26.

ojaysam25:

how could she know the teaching and commandment of jesus christ.

Do you yourself who have probably read that your Bible so many times before now know the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ to begin with?

It isn't by reading the book that you know these things. It is by using the understanding you already have first, that God said more understanding will be given you.

Kobojunkie:
It isn't wrong IF done in accordance to the commandments of Jesus Christ.

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Here is a summary of sorts of some of the New Covenant teachings and commandments given by Jesus Christ where Prayer is concerned

---

■ Ask, Seek and Knock, in order to receive, find and have the door opened to you[b]Matthew 7 vs 7[/b]
■ Pray continuously. I.e. don't stop asking, seeking, knocking until you have received, found, and had the door opened to you Matthew 21 vs 22 & Luke 18 vs 1- 8
■ Avoid vain repetitions because God knows what you want even before you ask Him Matthew 6 vs 7 - 8
■ Always pray in secret and in hiding Matthew 6 vs 6
■ Pray the Lord's prayer-Matthew 6 vs 9- 13
■ Forgive everyone who has hurt or offended you before you pray so your father in Heaven will forgive you your sins- Matthew 11 vs 25 & Matthew 6 vs 12
■ Always approach God in Humility-
Luke 18 vs 9 - 4
■ Believe that you have received what you ask for and it shall be done for you
Matthew 21 vs 22 & Mark 11 vs 24
■ Ask the Father in the name of Jesus Christ
John 15 vs 16
■ If you abide in Him and He, Jesus, abides in you, then He, Jesus Christ, will do whatever you ask in His name John 14 vs 13-14 & john 15 vs 7
■ Pray for your enemies - Matthew 5 vs 44 & Luke 6 vs 27- 28
■ Ask God for the Holy Spirit -
Luke 11 vs 13 & Matthew 7 vs 11

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As Jesus Christ said, those who love Him are, not those who go around mouthing off what they do, but instead, take who submit to and obey His teachings- John 14 vs 23 - 26.

good. am glad to see you quoted the scripture. which means you must have made concious effort to study it. but why attack those that equally implore her to study GOd words so she could know the commandment of jesus like you rightly said.

Kobojunkie:
Do you yourself who have probably read that your Bible so many times before now know the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ to begin with?

It isn't by reading the book that you know these things. It is by using the understanding you already have first, that God said more understanding will be given you.

how could one get that understanding you talk about

ojaysam25:

good. am glad to see you quoted the scripture. which means you must have made concious effort to study it. but why attack those that equally implore her to study GOd words so she could know the commandment of jesus like you rightly said.

The knowledge of what is above did not come by reading my Bible.... instead it came by obedience.

Your pastors and mogs read that book, some several times a year but they all refuse to obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ stated above, why? Because, again, these things don't come about by your studying of your bibles but instead by doing that which God tells you to do.

ojaysam25:

how could one get that understanding you talk about

Again, as Jesus Christ taught... understanding comes from obedience not from reading your Bible.

Kobojunkie:
The knowledge of what is above did not come by reading my Bible.... instead it came by obedience.

Your pastors and mogs read that book, some several times a year but they all refuse to obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ stated above, why? Because, again, these things don't come about by your studying of your bibles but instead by doing that which God tells you to do.

how did you know those bible verse you quoted.

Kobojunkie:
Again, as Jesus Christ taught... understanding comes from obedience not from reading your Bible.

obedience to what.

ojaysam25:

how did you know those bible verse you quoted.

I know them now because I first obeyed God and He then taught me and gave me understanding of them..

ojaysam25:

obedience to what.

According to God, one must first abandon the old ways and begin following the new way in order to become of Him. The Old way is of all the bad things I used to do. Obedience, not prayer, or your reading of your Bible, is the key in the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
According to God, one must first abandon the old ways and begin following the new way in order to become of Him. The Old way is of all the bad things I used to do. Obedience, not prayer, or your reading of your Bible, is the key in the Kingdom of God.

i see what you are up to. satan your master must be ashamed of you. your deception skill is still in the kindergathen stage. go and learn more, i dout if you will ever make it as a student of the devil. go and check into the psychaitric hospital you recommended for the sister. you are not ok. i wouldt derail this thread further.

ojaysam25:

i see what you are up to. satan your master must be ashamed of you. your deception skill is still in the kindergathen stage. go and learn more, i dout if you will ever make it as a student of the devil. go and check into the psychaitric hospital you recommended for the sister. you are not ok. i wouldt derail this thread further.

So what you are saying is that Jesus Christ, the one who teaches that Obedience is the key in the Kingdom of God, the one who taught that in order to gain understanding of the Kingdom of God, you first have to obey, is in fact of Satan?