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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:22pm On Sep 28, 2022
I can’t wait for alhassan to make his debut for the super eagles mk all this long talk about how he is good end for ones cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 1:22pm On Sep 28, 2022
Alex self na decent at best, who's occasionally good(He's been quite good so far in the EPL) grin. I mean how many years you suppose to play with somebody to know say na basket?
charlesemeka85:
yes that’s true. Maybe Alex never knew uzoho is this bad now cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:23pm On Sep 28, 2022
Odunayaw:
You should take your own advice.

I ask questions to stir you out of the roforofo you have created in your mind over Nwakali

At one time in the match yesterday we had 3 midfielders on the pitch! That shows we ought not to have started with 2

And I don't need you to agree with me on anything. Your opinion can't do shyte neither can mine so get off that aggressive stance when Nwakali is mentioned

Sho ti ye e?
please when in the match did we hv 3 midfielders?

Roforofo because I state the obvious always when ever nwakali’s issue rises up here

I stand on my stance about him until he proves me wrong and I will be the first to admit my wrong assessment on him when it happens
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:26pm On Sep 28, 2022
And he did what he could.

Had Onyeka taken a few more steps, instead of Ball watching and moved into his Actual Primary defensive zone as the CDM, he might have gotten the block that no one else could have achieved.

3 touches leading to the goal was enough time to see Onyeka take up position in his primary zone yesterday.

His tactical sense of positioning and anticipation is underpar. That is the whole point.

codemaniacs:
Iwobi was the one who should have prevented the second goal because iwobi was the closest to the ball...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:26pm On Sep 28, 2022
benji93:
Alex self na decent at best, who's occasionally good(He's been quite good so far in the EPL) grin. I mean how many years you suppose to play with somebody to know say na basket?
baba let’s not mince words, Alex is above decent currently. Bobo Dey ball hoooha!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 1:28pm On Sep 28, 2022
NWAKALI IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE SUPER EAGLES... WE ARE NOT BRAZIL FRANCE OR SPAIN....PERIOD
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 1:28pm On Sep 28, 2022
Na why i add bracket now. cheesy. He's been quite impressive. But you know say water dey always find him level. So make we wait till we half way through the season.
charlesemeka85:
baba let’s not mince words, Alex is above decent currently. Bobo Dey ball hoooha!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:29pm On Sep 28, 2022
cheesy
komekn:
Segundo division cannot afford any of them, well certainly not Ponferradina FC which is essentially bankrupt.

Just Tega alone his weekly wages is over the entire Ponferradina squads weekly wage budget .

Finally they would not descend so low when they can go to English league one and two and still get more money.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:30pm On Sep 28, 2022
elyte89:
NWAKALI IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE SUPER EAGLES... WE ARE NOT BRAZIL FRANCE OR SPAIN....PERIOD
neither are we niger,Benin,eswatini or Djibouti cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 1:30pm On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
You are twisting your excuses.

If you haven't watched Alhassan even ONCE for a whole 90mins of a game. Then you have nothing to say on him. Do you know how much you miss innot seeing 20mins of a game?


Watching all our players 90mins each weekend isn't feasible. One can only select which to watch for 90mins and then view others in several mins.

On certain day offs of mine when they fall on weekends, I do have such luxury to watch as many games as I can involving our lads all with 90mins interest. For some that clashes... like having 3 playing at the same time, I have my laptop, my phone and my TV to share things.

And then for some I also make game checks of 30mins or so.

So it depends on the individual.

You haven't watched Alhassan for a full 90mins 3 times... so you are bound to miss certain points in the game that could actually matter most than what you saw.
No Mister, you can't use your laptop, TV and phones to switch on different matches at-a-go. It's a deception and you are not different from who watched only one.

As for Alhassan, I watched the full match against Brugge and other times but just few minutes especially when my preferred match are on halftime break.

Saying about what I could miss in 20 or 30 minutes because I didn't watch a full match rather funny. If a player can only perform for every 20 minutes when I switched off, then he's not good enough. He's just another Fred Macheda.

Like I said earlier, I have watched him enough so stop trying to shut me up because I have not given him my 3 hours - as you claimed to be doing every weekend because that's a lie on its own but...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by fabyom: 1:32pm On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Damn it! How many more of this do I have to put up with this lunch break? Haba!!

And Onyeka wasn't expected to be near the guy taking the shot. Don't misquote me. I clearly explained the scenario.

And what was he defending with the ball already cleared??

All I said is he should have moved more centrally and upwards into his CDM zone at the top of the box. He had the time to do that but didn't even with the ball already cleared and headed outwards of the box towards another Algerian player who then rolled it into Atal's path who took 2 touches for that strike.

That is about 3 touches from Uzoho to Atal before he even struck.


He caused a penalty. Is limited in possession. Shows positional indiscipline for the CDM role leaving gaps in his primary defending zones. And only made a few meters of ball carries which you exaggerate as moving the ball from defence to offense.

Onyeka a gem? With all these limitations and errors yesterday? Really?
Who would have done better? Onyeka was exceptional yesterday. He was the only DM against 3 outstanding CM yet limit them to no shot at goal in the first half. The mere fact that he was in that position to mark the Algerian for that penalty shows the quality of his positioning. That should have been Sanusi's duty. He was all over the place running and winning balls. Paserio should have helped him by bringing on Onyedika earlier. Uzoho punched the ball out from a corner kick, it was the duty of the forwards to press the Algerians while the midfielders add more body to the defense. Where were Iheanacho, Simon and other attackers? You expect Onyeka to press while the attackers do what? Defend? You are just being sentimental.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 1:32pm On Sep 28, 2022
elyte89:
NWAKALI IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE SUPER EAGLES... WE ARE NOT BRAZIL FRANCE OR SPAIN....PERIOD
Yes, he's good enough.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:32pm On Sep 28, 2022
charlesemeka85:
please when in the match did we hv 3 midfielders?
Let me correct myself

At one time in the match we should have had 3 midfielders on the pitch. That shows we ought not to have had 2
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by codemaniacs: 1:32pm On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
And he did what he could.

Had Onyeka taken a few more steps, instead of Ball watching and moved into his Actual Primary defensive zone as the CDM, he might have gotten the block that no one else could have achieved.

3 touches leading to the goal was enough time to see Onyeka take up position in his primary zone yesterday.

His tactical sense of positioning and anticipation is underpar. That is the whole point.
Iwobi was ball watching. Iwobi didn't do anything. What you fail to realize is that Onyeka is a CM not a DM.

S.E played without a DM yesterday and a DM would have also been in the box so it's players outside the box like Iwobi that could have prevented the second goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 1:33pm On Sep 28, 2022
This is not good Sir. Money is not everything. cheesy
komekn:
Segundo division cannot afford any of them, well certainly not Ponferradina FC which is essentially bankrupt.

Just Tega alone his weekly wages is over the entire Ponferradina squads weekly wage budget .

Finally they would not descend so low when they can go to English league one and two and still get more money.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:33pm On Sep 28, 2022
Well whatever Forest is playing right now has them already battling relegation.
komekn:
My comments are not specific to you but in general to what is often said here.

Nottingham play what you call " dour" football not exactly sure what you mean. But I presume you mean unattractive football.

Well Burnley did that for almost a decade and had a good run in the EPL.

Fulham played on the deck sweet football in the EPL a few seasons ago but got relegated.

Teams will rather play ugly and win than on the deck sweet football and Lose.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:33pm On Sep 28, 2022
benji93:
This is not good Sir. Money is not everything. cheesy
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:34pm On Sep 28, 2022
chrisooblog:
Well whatever Forest is playing right now has them already battling relegation.
season still fresh

Arsenal Dey top now no means says dem go win am
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 1:34pm On Sep 28, 2022
I know you are excited about Onyeka, but calm down SIr.
fabyom:
Who would have done better? Onyeka was exceptional yesterday. He was the only DM against 3 outstanding CM yet limit them to no shot at goal in the first half. The mere fact that he was in that position to mark the Algerian for that penalty shows the quality of his positioning. That should have been Sanusi's duty. He was all over the place running and winning balls. Paserio should have helped him by bringing on Onyedika earlier. Uzoho punched the ball out from a corner kick, it was the duty of the forwards to press the Algerians while the midfielders add more body to the defense. Where were Iheanacho, Simon and other attackers? You expect Onyeka to press while the attackers do what? Defend? You are just being sentimental.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:35pm On Sep 28, 2022
charlesemeka85:
please when in the match did we hv 3 midfielders?

Roforofo because I state the obvious always when ever nwakali’s issue rises up here

I stand on my stance about him until he proves me wrong and I will be the first to admit my wrong assessment on him when it happens
You're stating the obvious as you see fit and I'm stating the obvious as I see fit

SE has no business having a lean midfield and ignoring a player having a good season all in the name of Segundo league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 1:37pm On Sep 28, 2022
benji93:
I dare say you have to Sir. Do you not know it's one of the requirements for anyone to be called a good analyst?
How many of our players have you watched 90×3 this season?

I'm waiting...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by fabyom: 1:38pm On Sep 28, 2022
Onyeka wins the ball, passes to Iwobi, Iwobi finds Iheanacho, Iheanacho has Simon, Lookman and Moffi running into space ahead of him but decides to shot instead. Iheanacho should be the one taking all the criticism.
Onyeka has Cement his place in the team. Facts!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by joelsteron: 1:38pm On Sep 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
He tried because to most fans, na the man wey dey run around, dey Mark and dey put body in duels na him dey do past everybody. grin

But if you critically analyse the gaps and holes he leaves when he makes his movements sometimes and how positionally indisciplined he proved himself to be yesterday, you will realise that no be by gra gra. Football is more about intelligence than Gra gra.

When it comes to the Art of Positional Discipline in the CDM role, Ndidi definitely trumps Onyeka hands down.
I may analytically criticize Ndidi's underpar Ball-playing and limited passing range but he offers better than Onyeka defensively and is more positionally disciplined in the DM role compared to Onyeka.
Apt
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:39pm On Sep 28, 2022
Odunayaw:
You're stating the obvious as you see fit and I'm stating the obvious as I see fit

SE has no business having a lean midfield and ignoring a player having a good season all in the name of Segundo league
nooo we hv decent enough midfielders in top flight european football

No need to drop the quality of the team by calling up a Spanish 2nd tier player, if say na English championship it would’ve been considerable enough

Imagine boasting of 4 midfielders in the epl(aribo,ndidi,iwobi and Onyeka), 2 in Belgian top fight(onyedika and alhassan), 1in ligue one(bonke) and we abandon one of these to go down the lower rugs of Spanish football to invite one

Na cheating na cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:41pm On Sep 28, 2022
fabyom:
Onyeka wins the ball, passes to Iwobi, Iwobi finds Iheanacho, Iheanacho has Simon, Lookman and Moffi running into space ahead of him but decides to shot instead. Iheanacho should be the one taking all the criticism.
Onyeka has Cement his place in the team. Facts!
Onyeka na machine. Many fail to understand that he isn’t even a natural dm but b2b player

The weakest link in the team last night was iheanacho
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:42pm On Sep 28, 2022
cheesy
Utonwanne:
How many of our players have you watched 90×3 this season?

I'm waiting...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:42pm On Sep 28, 2022
I have done it before mister. Have you ever heard of the word, "Multi-tasking"? Don't use your own limits or brainpower level to measure with another. We are all built different. wink

Also, what is common ground for all at least is that you can easily watch one game starting at 12noon or 11.30am (Dutch leagues or others) and move to another starting at 2pm. All 90mins games not clashing and we have a lot of that every weekend on Naija players. They don't all clash all the time especially concerning players we really want to watch.


And listen... I insist that you watch the entire 90mins of a game on any of our lads 3 times if indeed you are going to have an authoritative say on them, if at all.

I cannot invest my time watching these lads as detailed as I do only to come argue with you, who don't watch them or don't watch enough and you still wanna come rub minds with me. The difference is I see everything and will analyse holistically while you will only analyse in parts and via nolstagia from previous seasons that may not hold true in the here and now.


And I am not lying. I even dedicate more than 3 hours on certain day offs to watch our lads. I can go 12noon - 9pm on a Saturday if that is my day off just watching and keeping tabs on our Nigerian footballers scheduled within that time frame.

It happens except I have other project engagements even on my day offs.

Why that is hard to believe for you is very funny. A few of us take time to really observe, Utonwanne. You should also do same if you must truly have anything soundly authoritative to say on these lads.

Utonwanne:
No Mister, you can't use your laptop, TV and phones to switch on different matches at-a-go. It's a deception and you are not different from who watched only one.

As for Alhassan, I watched the full match against Brugge and other times but just few minutes especially when my preferred match are on halftime break.

Saying about what I could miss in 20 or 30 minutes because I didn't watch a full match rather funny. If a player can only perform for every 20 minutes when I switched off, then he's not good enough. He's just another Fred Macheda.

Like I said earlier, I have watched him enough so stop trying to shut me up because I have not given him my 3 hours - as you claimed to be doing every weekend because that's a lie on its own but...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:46pm On Sep 28, 2022
Utonwanne:
No Mister, you can't use your laptop, TV and phones to switch on different matches at-a-go. It's a deception and you are not different from who watched only one.

As for Alhassan, I watched the full match against Brugge and other times but just few minutes especially when my preferred match are on halftime break.

Saying about what I could miss in 20 or 30 minutes because I didn't watch a full match rather funny. If a player can only perform for every 20 minutes when I switched off, then he's not good enough. He's just another Fred Macheda.

Like I said earlier, I have watched him enough so stop trying to shut me up because I have not given him my 3 hours - as you claimed to be doing every weekend because that's a lie on its own but...
but bro from your assessment do alhassan deserve the hype he gets here based on what you hv seen in his game the few times u ve had the opportunity to watch Antwerp’s match this season?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 1:46pm On Sep 28, 2022
Calm down and read. You are not following Sir. Ask @Charlesemeka. grin. Must i always add emojis?
Utonwanne:
How many of our players have you watched 90×3 this season?

I'm waiting...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:48pm On Sep 28, 2022
My brother there's a saying that from the morning you will know how the day will turn out but make we dey watch sha

charlesemeka85:
season still fresh

Arsenal Dey top now no means says dem go win am
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:48pm On Sep 28, 2022
Mister. I have analysed Onyeka as a Pressing CM on this thread. I know exactly the kind of midfielder he is.

So stop making stale excuses for him.

Now, in the context of yesterday's game, he was the CDM. He was the one primarily tasked with defensive duties. He was the one meant to protect the defence. Did he do a good job of that? Not really.

He did have his defensive moments and won couple of duels, marking and tracking opponents but times and times again, he also left gaps in the middle, showing poor positioning and also didnt cover himself in glory as regards his passing range.

And again, shots like that sometimes get past the first Man trying to block and ends up at the block of the 2nd or 3rd man in the path of the ball.

Had Onyeka been present in his defensive Zone, we would/might not be talking Iwobi close to the ball. Iwobi did what he could.

All he had to do was take up his position centrally in his DM zone and act as a barrier in anticipation of a strike. But no... baba was ball watching.

Onyeka had a generally underpar yesterday. Don't sugar-coat it further abeg.

codemaniacs:
Iwobi was ball watching. Iwobi didn't do anything. What you fail to realize is that Onyeka is a CM not a DM.

S.E played without a DM yesterday and a DM would have also been in the box so it's players outside the box like Iwobi that could have prevented the second goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:49pm On Sep 28, 2022
chrisooblog:
My brother there's a saying that from the morning you will know how the day will turn out but make we dey watch sha
I knw but that saying doesn’t apply in certain aspect of life

Arsenal no go win epl this season while Forrest may not be relegated cheesy
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