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[quote author=Ken4Christ post=117093107][/quote]

Hell is a place reserved for lost souls immediately after death. Only the soul goes there after death while the body is in the grave.

Acts 2:31 KJV
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
After jesus' death, he (his soul) was in the grave for three days before resurrection
So according to you, Jesus soul was a lost soul?

It can be likened to a cell where criminals are kept awaiting trials. After they are tried and convicted, they move them to a prison.

What happens to the soul in hell after death?

In hell, the demons themselves carry out the torture while fire of very high degree burns them from time to time.

Which verse of the Bible did you get this?
I like your imaginations

But when day of final judgment comes, the souls in hell are released to face final judgment. They will be reunited with their bodies and we look completely whole again as they stand before the court in heaven.

Lol. Which court in heaven? I will like to know the sources your getting your speculations from.

God declared that the souls of those that sin will die but you seem to be saying otherwise.

When the book of life is opened and their names are not found, they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire which is far worse than hell. It is like liquid fire. They will be burning and at the same time be swimming in it to raise up their heads for a little comfort.

Whoa! Super story.

According to you ;
"Yes, Death and Hell are spirit being that accommodated the souls of the dead."

This is crazy. Hell can never be a spirit being. It's just a place for the dead.

Study Rev. 20:13 extensively.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:

The sea also gave up the deads in it.
Are those deads in the sea different from the deads in hell?
Or why are they some deads in the seas and some in hell?
Why didn't all the deads go to hell?

The angels of God and Jesus himself will from time to time have access to see them but they won't be hurt by the fire.

Ọmọ you sabi imagine things o.

The entity known as hell which is a spiritual compartment in the shape of a woman lying on her back at the center of the earth will also be thrown into the Lake of Fire. It is a much bigger fire consuming a smaller one

What's the essence of burning a fire in another fire
Didn't you say hell na spirit being, na fire now

The Bible did not tell us much about Death. But I believe some souls are held there also awaiting judgment. It is like a realm of transition where the dead find themselves before they finally enter hell or heaven.

Cool. So some souls are in hell while some are in the sea and others are in death.
No be one place lost souls dé go again

I hope this answers your questions.

According to you hell is a smaller fire that will be later cast into a bigger lake of fire.
Hell is also a spirit being in form of a woman bla bla bla.
Some souls are in death while the others are in hell.

The confusion is obvious with you.

Let's fear God and accept Jesus into our lives so we can escape this wrath of God.
God has used previous judgment in the Bible for us to learn from.

I fear God and believe his son as the Messiah and I keep his commandments. That doesn't mean I should believe in the existence of hell.
God would never burn people in a literal for any reason.
That's what a cruel and diabolical ruler would do not a God that is LOVE.

The Noah's flood is one of them where only 8 persons survived the 40 days and 40 nights rain.
The destruction of two cities; Sodom and Gomorrah by fire from heaven is another example of God's fierce wrath.

The punishment God gave those people was just literal physical death.
God never sent them to hell fire.

In fact, no where in the old testament did God said he would burn people in hell fire.
He never inspired that to any prophet of old. He didn't warn anybody about any possibility of suffering after death.

Hell fire is not real but an invention of the Roman Catholics.

MaxInDHouse:
You wicked o!
So you want this boy to get brain tumor shey?

Hahahaha

sonmvayina:
If I say the new testament is confusing theology that belongs to the bin...
They will say I have come..
The new testament theology is bull shit, there is nothing divine in it. It has got nothing to do with the creator of heaven and earth whose mercy endures forever...

Lol. You forgot he commanded adulterers among his chosen people Israel to be stoned to death
while Jesus spared and forgave a woman caught in adultery.

I would say the NT is way better than the OT if I were to compare them.

bobestman:
No one can stop anyone recieving judgement. Someone recieving judgement in hell can't come out and go and recieve judgement on the last day again.

Please interpret the below scripture!

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and HELL delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelations 20:13 (holy Bible)

cornelboy:
Lol. You forgot he commanded adulterers among his chosen people Israel to be stoned to death
while Jesus spared and forgave a woman caught in adultery.

I would say the NT is way better than the OT if I were to compare them.

Don't waste your time and data on sonmvayina because he will continue to dodge the truth, his former landlord is one of those faithless Jews and he has brainwashed him so sonmvayina doesn't want to hear anything about Jesus no matter how beneficial but the stupid thing about him is how he often quote Jesus to back his delusion!

MaxInDHouse:
Please interpret the below scripture!

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and HELL delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelations 20:13 (holy Bible)

How did your organisation interpret it? Anyone can interpret that. Why ask for interpretation? What you bolded and the question you are asking don't even correlate. Maybe you have another thing in mind or you don't understand me

Janosky:
Kobojunkie believes in Trinity- the worship of 3 deities.
Acts 3:13 & John 20:17,Did Jehovah's servants worship 3 deities?
I have the proof on this forum to debunk your claim.

lost fraud jw janosky

you love to lie and call the Christians JEHOVAH and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the bible:
"3 deities" whch means 3 gods, you also call them: "the 3 dogheads", and you call the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost

you will have your reward:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

MaxInDHouse:
Well i've quoted what God said about the wages of sin so you can continue ranting!

And quoting is not the problem, but you people's understanding or inability to understand what you read in the Bible.

bobestman:
How did your organisation interpret it? Anyone can interpret that. Why ask for interpretation? What you bolded and the question you are asking don't even correlate. Maybe you have another thing in mind or you don't understand me

It was for someone else not you since you're not even sure whether the book is inspired!

cornelboy:
Acts 2:31 KJV
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
After jesus' death, he (his soul) was in the grave for three days before resurrection
So according to you, Jesus soul was a lost soul?


What happens to the soul in hell after death?


Which verse of the Bible did you get this?
I like your imaginations


Lol. Which court in heaven? I will like to know the sources your getting your speculations from.

God declared that the souls of those that sin will die but you seem to be saying otherwise.


Whoa! Super story.

According to you ;
"Yes, Death and Hell are spirit being that accommodated the souls of the dead."

This is crazy. Hell can never be a spirit being. It's just a place for the dead.

Study Rev. 20:13 extensively.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:

The sea also gave up the deads in it.
Are those deads in the sea different from the deads in hell?
Or why are they some deads in the seas and some in hell?
Why didn't all the deads go to hell?


Ọmọ you sabi imagine things o.


What's the essence of burning a fire in another fire
Didn't you say hell na spirit being, na fire now


Cool. So some souls are in hell while some are in the sea and others are in death.
No be one place lost souls dé go again


According to you hell is a smaller fire that will be later cast into a bigger lake of fire.
Hell is also a spirit being in form of a woman bla bla bla.
Some souls are in death while the others are in hell.

The confusion is obvious with you.


I fear God and believe his son as the Messiah and I keep his commandments. That doesn't mean I should believe in the existence of hell.
God would never burn people in a literal for any reason.
That's what a cruel and diabolical ruler would do not a God that is LOVE.


The punishment God gave those people was just literal physical death.
God never sent them to hell fire.

In fact, no where in the old testament did God said he would burn people in hell fire.
He never inspired that to any prophet of old. He didn't warn anybody about any possibility of suffering after death.

Hell fire is not real but an invention of the Roman Catholics.

You have made up your mind on what to believe. And you have also been brainwashed. All the wrong teachings that have been programmed into your mind is what is affecting you.

Now answer this question, each time the scripture talks about hell, it says that people will be cast or thrown into hell. Do they throw dead bodies into the grave or lower them gently.

While would Jesus use an imaginary place to warn us or make illustrations.

Why did the Bible say those that will be thrown in there will weep and gnash their teeth? In your village, do dead bodies in the grave weep and gnash their teeth?

Why will the Bible say that they will be tormented day and night? Is there torment in the grave?

Why would the Bible talk about the sorrows of hell? Is there sorrow in the grave?

It shall never be well with Rushell that brought these false teachings. He is already experiencing torture and wishing that someone would come and stop his evil organization he started.

I have tried my best to help you but you don't want to be helped.

Enjoy your journey to hell. You will regret your pride and stupidity because even your conscience is a witness that you are not honest. The evidences that refutes your teachings are overwhelming but you just choose to ignore them.

bobestman:
Stop contradicting and and making a mockery yourself.
You said at the final judgement those in hell will be moved to be judged. But your Bible says after a man dies he will judged and sent to hell if he did evil. Why judge him again at the final judgement when he is already recieving judgement in hell? That is not possible. No one can stop anyone recieving judgement. Someone recieving judgement in hell can't come out and go and recieve judgement on the last day again. You ppl read and quote things you don't understand. Souls are in their realms and will wait till the last day for their judgement. They could return. Some are trapped but that is not hell. HEB 9:27 many of use as your main point when talking about hell is talking of the final judgement of all on the last day. The ppl who rewrote the bible are those who wrote it that way for their own reasons. It is not an instant judgement. They are gathered somewhere till the last day. You can call them and make enquiries if you have the power. When Saul saw Samuel, Samuel told him that he will join him their soon. Where? In the spirit realm. Even the Witch called the ppl she saw gods. We are all gods. Good and bad. . They have their realms which is not heaven or hell that is where they stay till they are needed for any assignment and then reborned. This is why the bible say "before I formed you, I knew you...". We first exist somewhere as gods just as the witch told Samuel that she saw gods.
I can go on and on and expose many wrongs in this your write up but you won't agree. That's what you ppl have been programmed to see and how you understood it. It would be hard for you to understand. The Old Testament has the true answers to the doctrines you seek. The New testament are just commentaries. They speak of the Old. Bible writers who are Christians don't like it. They decieved a lot of you and gave you many wrong stories. The teachings of the Messiah and the some things in the book of revelation are the most important things their. Other things their were fabricated by European false scribes. Many of you will come around one day.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels

And this shall be your portion since you refuse to believe the truth of God's word.

Ken4Christ:
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels

And this shall be your portion since you refuse to believe the truth of God's word.

Funny enough FIRE in the Bible symbolises complete destruction or as Jesus himself puts it second death! Revelations 20:14

MaxInDHouse:
Funny enough FIRE in the Bible symbolises complete destruction or as Jesus himself puts it second death! Revelations 20:14

You choose the part you want to believe and close your eyes to the other truths.

The scripture cannot contradict itself.

The beast and the false Prophet are thrown in after Jesus defeats them in Revelation 19:20;

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. THESE BOTH WERE CAST ALIVE INTO A LAKE OF FIRE burning with brimstone.

After 1,000 years of Jesus Reign, Satan is also cast in there. And the scripture says that the beast and the false Prophet are still there;

Revelation 20:10 And the DEVIL THAT DECEIVED THEM WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

You see your lies. The scripture says that the beast and the false Prophet are still there after over 1,000 years because they were thrown in before Jesus Millennium Reign. And Satan was thrown in after the Millennium Reign of Christ.

You see why I say that Jehovah Witness is an anti Christ organization. The Bible says one thing. They say a different thing. And gullible souls like you swallow them hook line and sinker.

Ken4Christ:
You choose the part you want to believe and close your eyes to the other truths.

The scripture cannot contradict itself.

The beast and the false Prophet are thrown in after Jesus defeats them in Revelation 19:20;

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. THESE BOTH WERE CAST ALIVE INTO A LAKE OF FIRE burning with brimstone.

After 1,000 years of Jesus Reign, Satan is also cast in there. And the scripture says that the beast and the false Prophet are still there;

Revelation 20:10 And the DEVIL THAT DECEIVED THEM WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

You see your lies. The scripture says that the beast and the false Prophet are still there after over 1,000 years because they were thrown in before Jesus Millennium Reign. And Satan was thrown in after the Millennium Reign of Christ.

You see why I say that Jehovah Witness is an anti Christ organization. The Bible says one thing. They say a different thing. And gullible souls like you swallow them hook line and sinker.

The lake of fire means SECOND DEATH there is hope for whoever goes to Hell (Grave) and that is resurrection {Job 14:13-15} which all dead servants of God from Abel to John the baptist will get but as for unrepentant evildoers they will not be remembered for resurrection. Psalms 9:17
So unlike the FIRST DEATH that affects both good and bad people their own portion will be in the lake of fire which means SECOND DEATH or DEATH without a hope of resurrection!
That's what it means not that they will continue to be alive somewhere, God never promised the wicked eternal life rather it's a gift for only the righteous! Romans 6:23

cornelboy:
Lol. You forgot he commanded adulterers among his chosen people Israel to be stoned to death
while Jesus spared and forgave a woman caught in adultery.

I would say the NT is way better than the OT if I were to compare them.

Lol..if God commanded them to be stones...

Who has the power to change it?

sonmvayina:
Lol..if God commanded them to be stones...
Who has the power to change it?

So are Jews still stoning people to death today?

sonmvayina:
Lol..if God commanded them to be stones...
Who has the power to change it?

God himself.

cornelboy:
God himself.

The God I worship is perfect and makes no mistake.

He gets it right the first time..

MaxInDHouse:
So are Jews still stoning people to death today?

The truth has to be established first..

So you don't kill an innocent person..

And somebody has to make a complaint..

https://www.jesusneverexisted.com/belief.html

Go through this site and just educate yourself

Mr ken4christ

Ken4Christ:
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels

And this shall be your portion since you refuse to believe the truth of God's word.

That is how a normal brainwashed Churchian behave. When you don't agree with them they start issuing threat and cursing in the name their God. Always trying to fight for your God while you accuse Muslims for doing the same. Normal brainwashed folks. Now if I lay a curse on you, mine will work faster than yours cos my mind is far pure than yours. You are also the Ignorant one here

Your hell is a New Testament creation and it was done by some Catholics folks to intimidate ppl and make them accept the Christian faith. You can only find such in the NT. Nothing of such in the Old as you ppl call it which is the real scripture. Do your research on it. It only exist for brainwashed Churchian. Their is truly a place of punishment but not fire. Research on other religion. Research about afterlife. Don't base all your knowledge on what you read in the NT. In the OT nothing of such. Ppl go to the the land of the dead and you can reach them if you want. Your African Ancestors know better. If you are truly woke and conscious, you will enter those realms and see things for yourself. You guys only see hell cos that is what they have programmed your minds to see. Leave that religion and such won't happen again. Ppl can be trapped and punished but not by fire as they wrote it in the NT.
Their is sothing the solar wizards used to hold and control Christians and those on religion. It is called Mind control or Programming. A lot were programmed conjured into the book and if you believe it, it gets into your mind and they control your mind with it. Once you wake up or see the true light, you see the real thing. Whenever you wake up is your morning.

MaxInDHouse:
It was for someone else not you since you're not even sure whether the book is inspired!

You should have taken your Malaria drugs maybe you would have known who to quote exactly.

sonmvayina:
The God I worship is perfect and makes no mistake.
He gets it right the first time..

Lol. God, Jehovah doesn't make mistakes. Na humans make mistakes.
The God of the Jews himself talk am say im go make another new covenant with his people. And na from that new covenant people like me dé benefit from today.

sonmvayina:
The truth has to be established first..

So you don't kill an innocent person..

And somebody has to make a complaint..

Established where?
Among the same Jews that God gave those laws?

Ọmọ the truth is that the Messiah has come so Jews who stubbornly reject him can now see that such laws has become obsolete never to be uphold again in any modern society where democracy is the order of the day.

So even though you're still doubting Jesus this should help you to know that the old covenant is no longer in force because Jesus the mediator of the New Covenant has come and played his part!

bobestman:
You should have taken your Malaria drugs maybe you would have known who to quote exactly.

Keep crying over your delusion!

MaxInDHouse:
Established where?
Among the same Jews that God gave those laws?

Ọmọ the truth is that the Messiah has come so Jews who stubbornly reject him can now see that such laws has become obsolete never to be uphold again in any modern society where democracy is the order of the day.

So even though you're still doubting Jesus this should help you to know that the old covenant is no longer in force because Jesus the mediator of the New Covenant has come and played his part!

Who made it old?

God Covenant with the Jews is for ever..

God never said the Messiah was coming to change it..

God even told them that anybody who comes to do that is not from him and should be killed..

So did you miss that.?

That is how I know jesus has got nothing to do with god ..

cornelboy:
Lol. God, Jehovah doesn't make mistakes. Na humans make mistakes.
The God of the Jews himself talk am say im go make another new covenant with his people. And na from that new covenant people like me dé benefit from today.

What was the new convenient about

Show me from the old testament..?

Show me where God said he would impregnate a woman to sire the Messiah and usher in the new convenient ??

MaxInDHouse:
Keep crying over your delusion!

Take your drugs bro so you don't quote the wrong person again

sonmvayina:
Who made it old?
God Covenant with the Jews is for ever..
God never said the Messiah was coming to change it..
God even told them that anybody who comes to do that is not from him and should be killed..
So did you miss that.?
That is how I know jesus has got nothing to do with god ..

So how come the laws of your god is no longer in operation nah?

bobestman:
Take your drugs bro so you don't quote the wrong person again

Keep crying over your delusion!

MaxInDHouse:
So how come the laws of your god is no longer in operation nah?

You are the one who is disobeying it..

Not me..

sonmvayina:
You are the one who is disobeying it..
Not me..

This is what you typed:

sonmvayina:
The truth has to be established first..
So you don't kill an innocent person..
And somebody has to make a complaint..

Meaning this law is no longer in force even in the land where it was first established so how do you expect me in Nigeria to keep what the original nation to whom it was given aren't keeping any more?