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Can God Still Forgive Satan? by mysticwarrior(op): 9:53am On Oct 01, 2022
If the devil decide to ask God for forgiveness today, will the merciful God forgive him?
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Pastsoul: 11:03am On Oct 01, 2022
Like you want to rewrite history
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:09pm On Oct 01, 2022
mysticwarrior:
If the devil decide to ask God for forgiveness today, will the merciful God forgive him?
Forgiveness is only for imperfect beings because in most cases they don't know what they're doing {Luke 23:34} but in the case of perfect beings there is no forgiveness because they deliberately sin against God! Matthew 12:31-32
So Satan is awaiting destruction because he sinned against whom he perfectly knew unlike you and i that knows almost nothing about God Satan knew God face to face in heaven before challenging his sovereignty! undecided
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Kobojunkie: 2:45pm On Oct 01, 2022
mysticwarrior:
If the devil decide to ask God for forgiveness today, will the merciful God forgive him?
Salvation is a personal walk, is it not? So why not focus on securing God's forgiveness instead? undecided
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:48pm On Oct 01, 2022
mysticwarrior:
If the devil decide to ask God for forgiveness today, will the merciful God forgive him?
There is so much madness in the land.

You no see Revelation?
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:50pm On Oct 01, 2022
Pastsoul:
Like you want to rewrite history
Actually Future! He is planning to wish that God would forgive Satan so that God too can forgive him since he and Satan are the same fat for the fire.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Pastsoul: 3:03pm On Oct 01, 2022
Pride!! you know the lord would have destroy him but yet allow him to fulfill his desire (God create then allow you to decide)
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Pastsoul: 3:03pm On Oct 01, 2022
Pride!! you know the lord would have destroy him but yet allow him to fulfill his desire (God create then allow you to decide)[/quote]
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by mysticwarrior(op): 5:03pm On Oct 01, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Actually Future! He is planning to wish that God would forgive Satan so that God too can forgive him since he and Satan are the same fat for the fire.
cha, see as you just dey talk like who them take koboko take flog shege comot from him head, how did you escape from a psychiatric evaluation center?
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by mysticwarrior(op): 5:06pm On Oct 01, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Forgiveness is only for imperfect beings because in most cases they don't know what they're doing {Luke 23:34} but in the case of perfect beings there is no forgiveness because they deliberately sin against God! Matthew 12:31-32
So Satan is awaiting destruction because he sinned against whom he perfectly knew unlike you and i that knows almost nothing about God Satan knew God face to face in heaven before challenging his sovereignty! undecided
you have deep understanding on spirituality and am quite impressed and satisfied by your explanation.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Fortune109(m): 5:36pm On Oct 01, 2022
Hmm!

There have always been Episodes of existence…in the existence before the present one we are in, Satan was a Saint…according to Islamic Scholars, he Iived amongst the sinful jinns of his kind…God later destroyed that existence and decided to save Satan by taking him to live among the Angels in heaven…He then made him into another Character in our present Episode by making him get jealous of Adam…

Hell and Paradise is the end of this present Episode, God may decide to start a new Episode of Existence after a long time of which he might have forgiven even the devil and make him become another Character entirely in the new season…



No condition is permanent!
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58pm On Oct 01, 2022
mysticwarrior:
you have deep understanding on spirituality and am quite impressed and satisfied by your explanation.
God bless you and may you have PEACE!
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:01pm On Oct 02, 2022
mysticwarrior:
cha, see as you just dey talk like who them take koboko take flog shege comot from him head, how did you escape from a psychiatric evaluation center?
grin because I don pull your shorts down make efribody see say you no clean yansh? grin
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by soontodie: 4:54pm On Oct 02, 2022
I think God encompasses both good and evil.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Kobojunkie: 5:27pm On Oct 02, 2022
soontodie:
I think God encompasses both good and evil.
God created all that is good and evil... He is the ONLY creator that there is. So the mere thought that evil requires forgiveness is absurd in itself and indicates the one asking has yet to adequately process the Truth of who God in fact is. grin
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by soontodie: 5:53pm On Oct 02, 2022
Kobojunkie:
God created all that is good and evil... He is the ONLY creator that there is. So the mere thought that evil requires forgiveness is absurd in itself and indicates the one asking has yet to adequately process the Truth of who God in fact is. grin
Agree as long as Ur God is not the Bible God or Quran
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Kobojunkie: 5:58pm On Oct 02, 2022
soontodie:
Agree as long as Ur God is not the Bible God or Quran
I am speaking about that written in scripture. God, the Father, is creator of All things - All meaning including that which is evil, and yes, Satan as well. The myth that somehow Satan changed from a good angel to a bad one is not of scripture mind you. undecided
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Maynman: 7:42pm On Oct 02, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I am speaking about that written in scripture. God, the Father, is creator of All things - All meaning including that which is evil, and yes, Satan as well. The myth that somehow Satan changed from a good angel to a bad one is not of scripture mind you. undecided
Scripture simply means writings.
And you are talking about jewish scriptures where the Israelite god is written about.

Just shouting “scripture” like an illiterate., it seems one has to be intentionally dumb to be basing their life on random books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Maynman: 7:44pm On Oct 02, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I am speaking about that written in scripture. God, the Father, is creator of All things - All meaning including that which is evil, and yes, Satan as well. The myth that somehow Satan changed from a good angel to a bad one is not of scripture mind you. undecided
Which of the Gods are you talking about? abrahamaic god?

Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by NNTR: 8:31pm On Oct 02, 2022
mysticwarrior:
If the devil decide to ask God for forgiveness today, will the merciful God forgive him?
Here's to fun hypothetical question getting a fun hypothetical answer

If, fun hypothetically speaking, the devil decide to ask God for forgiveness today, will the merciful God forgive him? Fun hypothetically answering. Yes, the merciful God will for the fun of it, forgive him

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by mysticwarrior(op): 10:16pm On Oct 02, 2022
NNTR:
Here's to fun hypothetical question getting a fun hypothetical answer

If, fun hypothetically speaking, the devil decide to ask God for forgiveness today, will the merciful God forgive him? Fun hypothetically answering. Yes, the merciful God will for the fun of it, forgive him

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
According to the explanation of someone here, when those who are created perfect like angles sin against God, there is no forgiveness and am convinced by that clarification.

During the time of Noah when the sons of heaven came down to mate with motal females, they try to return back to heaven when the great flood was ravaging the earth, but the gate of heaven was shut against them.

Reasonable evidence suggests that those sons of heavens made an attempt to return back to heaven, with the intention of begging for forgiveness but they were not given a second chance.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by hopefulLandlord: 10:27pm On Oct 02, 2022
mysticwarrior:
According to the explanation of someone here, when those who are created perfect like angles sin against God, there is no forgiveness and am convinced by that clarification.

During the time of Noah when the sons of heaven came down to mate with motal females, they try to return back to heaven when the great flood was ravaging the earth, but the gate of heaven was shut against them.

Reasonable evidence suggests that those sons of heavens made an attempt to return back to heaven, with the intention of begging for forgiveness but they were not given a second chance.
How can something or someone created "perfect" become imperfect?
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by sonmvayina(m): 10:43pm On Oct 02, 2022
God is responsible for both creation and destruction.
Satan simply means adversary. Nothing more.
Only humans have adversary, God does not...

Satan works for God. He has no will outside the will of God.. He does only what God tells him to do...
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by sonmvayina(m): 10:46pm On Oct 02, 2022
In Babylonian religion Satan would be Enlil. He is the god of the air or wind. IE he is the orisha of the air/wind. His symbol is a bull.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Kobojunkie: 11:00pm On Oct 02, 2022
mysticwarrior:
1. According to the explanation of someone here, when those who are created perfect like angles sin against God, there is no forgiveness and am convinced by that clarification.

2. During the time of Noah when the sons of heaven came down to mate with motal females, they try to return back to heaven when the great flood was ravaging the earth, but the gate of heaven was shut against them.

3. Reasonable evidence suggests that those sons of heavens made an attempt to return back to heaven, with the intention of begging for forgiveness but they were not given a second chance.
1. Where in scripture is it written that these so-called perfect beings can and do sin against God? undecided

2. Where is it written that these "sons of heaven" tried to return back to Heaven during the flood but the gate was shut against them? undecided

3. Where is this reasonable evidence to be found abeg? undecided


I am genuinely curious here because I haven't read much of this you claim in scripture to date. undecided
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Maynman: 11:04pm On Oct 02, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Where in scripture is it written that these so-called perfect beings can and do sin against God? undecided

2. Where is it written that these "sons of heaven" tried to return back to Heaven during the flood but the gate was shut against them? undecided

3. Where is this reasonable evidence to be found abeg? undecided


I am genuinely curious here because I haven't read much of this you claim in scripture to date. undecided
Illiterate, what language was this jewish scripture written in?
Who wrote this jewish scripture? What century? Heard of canon?

Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by mysticwarrior(op): 11:45pm On Oct 02, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Where in scripture is it written that these so-called perfect beings can and do sin against God? undecided

2. Where is it written that these "sons of heaven" tried to return back to Heaven during the flood but the gate was shut against them? undecided

3. Where is this reasonable evidence to be found abeg? undecided


I am genuinely curious here because I haven't read much of this you claim in scripture to date. undecided
chai, this man dey find reasonable evidence, Reasonable Evidence dey for inside Mogadishu grin lol. It means evidence that a reasonable person would find sufficient to determine whether one conclusion is more likely than another.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Kobojunkie: 11:51pm On Oct 02, 2022
mysticwarrior:
chai, this man dey find reasonable evidence, Reasonable Evidence dey for inside Mogadishu grin lol. It means evidence that a reasonable person would find sufficient to determine whether one conclusion is more likely than another.
Ok, so, Mr. Reasonable person, please provide reasonable answers to each of my questions abeg! undecided

1. Where in scripture is it written that these so-called perfect beings can and do sin against God? undecided

2. Where is it written that these "sons of heaven" tried to return back to Heaven during the flood but the gate was shut against them? undecided

3. Where is this reasonable evidence to be found abeg? undecided


I am genuinely curious here because I haven't read much of this you claim in scripture to date. undecided
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Maynman: 11:57pm On Oct 02, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Ok, so, Mr. Reasonable person, please provide reasonable answers to each of my questions abeg! undecided

1. Where in scripture is it written that these so-called perfect beings can and do sin against God? undecided

2. Where is it written that these "sons of heaven" tried to return back to Heaven during the flood but the gate was shut against them? undecided

3. Where is this reasonable evidence to be found abeg? undecided


I am genuinely curious here because I haven't read much of this you claim in scripture to date. undecided
Mrs miss illiterate, Scripture simply means writings.
And you are talking about jewish scriptures where the Israelite god is written about.

it seems one has to be intentionally dumb to be basing their life on random books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by mysticwarrior(op): 12:01am On Oct 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Ok, so, Mr. Reasonable person, please provide reasonable answers to each of my questions abeg! undecided

1. Where in scripture is it written that these so-called perfect beings can and do sin against God? undecided

2. Where is it written that these "sons of heaven" tried to return back to Heaven during the flood but the gate was shut against them? undecided

3. Where is this reasonable evidence to be found abeg? undecided


I am genuinely curious here because I haven't read much of this you claim in scripture to date. undecided
“And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day—” ‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:6‬

And I say again go down to Mogadishu and you will find "REASONABLE EVIDENCE" there.
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Kobojunkie: 12:07am On Oct 03, 2022
mysticwarrior:
1. “And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day—” ‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:6‬

2. And I say again go down to Mogadishu and you will find "REASONABLE EVIDENCE" there.
1. But where is it written that by not staying in their position of authority, choosing to leave their proper dwelling - they sinned against God? undecided

Recall that even Jesus Christ also left His position of authority in Heaven, leaving His proper dwelling, came to earth in order to deliver God's message to mankind? undecided

Are we simply to conclude that the angels in the one case sinned against God but Jesus Christ didn't? undecided

2. Let's not deviate here shall we... Also, consider my other questions to you as I would love to get answers to those as well. undecided
Re: Can God Still Forgive Satan? by Maynman: 12:10am On Oct 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. But where is it written that by not staying in their position of authority, choosing to leave their proper dwelling - they sinned against God? undecided

Recall that even Jesus Christ also left His position of authority in Heaven, leaving His proper dwelling, came to earth in order to deliver God's message to mankind? undecided

Are we simply to conclude that the angels in the one case sinned against God but Jesus Christ didn't? undecided

2. Let's not deviate here shall we... Also, consider my other questions to you as I would love to get answers to those as well. undecided
Miss illiterate, Scripture simply means writings.
And you are talking about jewish scriptures where the Israelite god is written about.

it seems one has to be intentionally dumb to be basing their life on random books written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

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