Goodnigga:
NATO/US are looking for an opportunity to nuke any country that first uses Nuclear weapon, if Russian uses it first, they will be shocked of the response from NATO/US

I don't think USA and NATO will retaliate if Russia nukes Ukraine, don't be deceived. Unless they are ready for multiple nukes dropping like rain everywhere.

God1000:
lol, don't deflect, I thought it was going to be a blitzkrieg military operation within few days in favour of Russia, but the war is still raging seven months after with Ukraine doing the counteroffensive now

Russia isn't a world power, it is just a regional power and it is gradually losing that status.

I'm also surprised here, some nigerians that often complain about western imperialism and colonialism are now supporting this madman and his invasion

Keep FOOLING yourself in delusions and denial.

In reality Ukraine in this scenario is like 20-30 countries against Russia alone.
IS IT EASY FOR ONE COUNTRY TO FIGHT 30 COUNTRIES?

USE YOUR HEAD

IMAliyu2:

Nukes are like being in room filled with petrol, and then you have 2 guys in the room arguing about which one has more matches in their hands.

The number of nukes doesn't matter, all you need one nuke hitting a city for it to be over.

So why are you thinking that NATO will defeat Russia?!

God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

If think Russia is fighting only Ukraine,then I'm sorry to inform you that you've still got a lot way to go as far as international politics is concerned

FireUpNow:
This Vladimir Putin should be assassinated to end all these. Let Russia top military men do the needful

it's not that easy.

Moreover those people mostly are loyal to him.

Plus being a Spy boss himself means he wouldn't fall prey easily.

Also the level of secrecy & departmentalization means even the soldiers don't know who exactly is their superior.

Don't forget, Putin has more Vote of Confidence from his people than your president or even USA president to say the least.

wirinet:


So Russia will win a nuclear war according to you?

Then NATO will win according to you?!

ogascomax:
The Westerner media and propaganda, lies, fake news, misinformation etc are 5&6. Lyman was abandoned by Russian troops while they say Ukraine have re-captured it. They said Russian is losing the war and Russia have annexed 4 States. Now NATO have rejected Ukraine Friday bid to join them, USA, UN, European Unions have said that they will not accept the annexation and that is the worst they can do nothing else. Putin have told them that the USA is the only nation that have twice use nuclear weapons and that they have set the PRECEDENCE for the usage. Note this if Putin use nuclear weapon on Ukraine nothing will still happened. That comedian in Ukraine called president should get sense and stop listening to those that want to destroy his nation. Russia is not the enemy but USA, NATO and the West are the true enemies of Ukraine.

It takes a lot of processes to deploy nuke. US is laser focused on the location of nuke in Russia. US has warned Russia of catastrophic consequence. You can bet the nuclear forces won't make it to their destination when they are genuinely on the move.

This is fake news tho

Deeprooted:



If think Russia is fighting only Ukraine,then I'm sorry to inform you that you've still got a lot way to go as far as international politics is concerned

I wonder why people think so despite being so much obvious.


Russia ought to have changed tactics long ago but they continued treating the fight with Kid's glove.

Mind you, I doubt Russia even used any of their main soldiers, especially knowing the WEST only wants to weaken them

MansoryMX:


They already lost status and respect from countries all over the world including people of their number one Allies, The Chinese!

Lost respect from dumb people anyway. Billions of dollars weapons pouring into Ukraine every week and you still don't understand that USA and NATO are already fighting Russia through Ukraine

IjeBos:


You are going to test my level of enlightenment. You? Lol..

Why not answer the question… don’t be scared

Reference:


Good attempt but not entirely true.
The truth about the nuclear strike on Japan was two fold.

One. As you said the fear of casualties, but not civilian casualties as in Dresden where German citizens died in mass (the US didn't care about Japanese civilians by then). But the fear of combat casualties in the event of a ground invasion estimated by General George Marshal to be a million including 250,000 soldiers killed based on projections from the bloody campaigns on the nearby islands of Iwo Jima and Okinawa, casualty figures which the American public could not accept.

So they needed a surgical strike with such great shock and awe that the Japanese will loose every will to continue fighting. So they targeted two things. The largest industrial port city complex and army headquarters within B52 range to decimate the Japanese war production and command and control, and then the largest populated city, Kokura (largest outside Tokyo, for they also wanted to avoid the imperial palace, harming the emperor and other cultural sites and sensibilities that will have galvanised the people to continue fighting) to break the will of the government.

Secondly, they also wanted to show the Soviet Union that they had the means to take on any adversary should the war have continued beyond 1945. For Stalin had cut short the neutrality pact he signed with the Japanese in 1941 (to have expired in 1946) and seeing how Japan and the US were bogged down in horrendous attrition attacked the northern flanks of the Japanese empire.

The US did not want what had happened in Europe where the Soviets beat the allies to Berlin to happen again in the East and pushed for a quick surrender of the Japanese to its forces rather than have the Soviets invade and seize imperial Japan.

So the first (and only use so far) of nuclear power in war had more to do with geo-politics as with military strategy as is playing out in Eastern Ukraine today.

Very well said!

I've used NL since 2005 with my older moniker and it gladdens me that we still have folks like you on here who stick to geo-political and international history facts.

In addition, the second atomic
bomb was originally meant for the city of Kokura, Japan, but because of very cloudy weather, the USAF air bombers had to drop the bomb on Nagasaki.

It still gives me chills when I think about how Kokura escaped that bombing and firestorm at the last minute, and Nagasaki got kicked in the ass instead.


Cheers.

How you go pass through this life without common sense na? Look at the bolded I made from your post, they show how shallow you are. You accuse western media of fake news, but you believe Russian media when they told you they retreated from land which they acquired with the blood of their soldiers. Did you ask yourself why they retreated from it? Its because Ukraine was trashing them, this is common sense, not fake news. When Russia say they annexed those regions, it is mere words and not strength of battle. That is why the next day after the annexation speech lyman was taken from them. Nato works in an organised system and in time through due process Ukraine will definitely be accepted because if they don't Russia will continue to 'steal' Ukrainian lands. US used nuclear bomb in the past, so is that why Russia wants to repeat it? Is that a good argument you are making? If Ghana enter Nigeria and say they want to nuke us because USA did in the past to another country will you say that is good thing. Now tell, why do you hate Zelensky but love Putin? Because Zelensky is defending his country? Guy you nor well. I pity your lifetime on this earth

ogascomax:
The Westerner media and propaganda, lies, fake news, misinformation etc are 5&6. Lyman was abandoned by Russian troops while they say Ukraine have re-captured it. They said Russian is losing the war and Russia have annexed 4 States. Now NATO have rejected Ukraine Friday bid to join them, USA, UN, European Unions have said that they will not accept the annexation and that is the worst they can do nothing else. Putin have told them that the USA is the only nation that have twice use nuclear weapons and that they have set the PRECEDENCE for the usage. Note this if Putin use nuclear weapon on Ukraine nothing will still happened. That comedian in Ukraine called president should get sense and stop listening to those that want to destroy his nation. Russia is not the enemy but USA, NATO and the West are the true enemies of Ukraine.

God1000:
[b]So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, [/b]the so-called 2nd most powerful military in world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

As in, ehn?! It's a total disgrace.

Corridon:
World war 111 loading.

European war.

It would not go beyond Europe or America.

Okealaaye:



"America couldn't defeat Japan in the (sic) WW11"? Where did you read this in World History? I advise that you go back and read about that phase in the 2nd world war when America intervened. This is because they ENTERED the war late but yet proved that they're the Superpower!

USA still had to use recently discovered nuclear bomb only because Japan was proving to be stubborn even after Germany had surrendered.
Don't you think for the fact that USA ENTERED the war late should have given them advantage to subdue Japan without resorting to the use of nuclear weapons? Weakass USA

Reference:


No one wants to destroy Russia.
What the west wants is a democratic, progressive Russia that respects international law.
They are not interested in the destruction of Russia and all the problems it will cause globally.
This is a country with a laundry list of enemies and is surrounded on all sides by nations and groups just itching to invade, carve it to bits and appropriate its resources.
And you can imagine what will happen to its nuclear resources if it becomes a failed state.
Only terrorists will rejoice, not the west.
They are not interested in fighting Russia and the average Russian is not interested in fighting the West.
They have tasted freedom after the Soviet Union and will never agree to go back to institutional bondage.

That is why I say no Russian General will obey Putin's order to launch any sort of nuclear strike.
That time has passed and the batton ot such terror handed over to more extreme nations and regimes gravitating around the middle-east.
That is where World War III will be fought.... and may involve the Persians.... or modern day Iran.

Same commanders telling putin to use nukes?

ken6488:

Shut up you mean NATO

Ukraine was defeated since march

What Russia is fighting now is NATO

Illiteracy is worst than disease. Check Aljazeera at least it's not Western Media.

tishbite41:


So why are you thinking that NATO will defeat Russia?!

Number of allies, more funding and more advanced military tech (Russia are still unable to defend against the HIMARS the US has supplied to Ukraine), as well as a larger personnel size.
In a non nuclear war NATO is beating Russia no doubt.

In a nuclear war, both sides will just needlessly destroy each other, and make their lands unlivable, there will be no winner, except for maybe Africa for not being involved.

maasoap:


Lost respect from dumb people anyway. Billions of dollars weapons pouring into Ukraine every week and you still don't understand that USA and NATO are already fighting Russia through Ukraine

You are right. It is a pseudo war. The US is more than happy to fund (there are no NATO or US troops on the ground) Ukraine in pushing back on Russia's aggression. But, it is RUSSIA's aggression. They decided to attack a country, kill, torture, rape it's people and plunder it's resources, because they thought they could. At any moment Russia can STOP and go home. On the other hand if Ukraine stops or stops getting help, Ukraine seeks to exist.

Neoteny7:


First of all it was world war 2, not 11.

Second, the US nuked Japan not because it couldn't defeat the japs, but because nukes would cause far fewer casualties than using conventional weapons as was done in Dresden, also because the shock and awe factor would force Japan to an early surrender and thus shorten the war and its casualties, which indeed was what happened. Remember at this point the US almost singlehandedly won the war in the East and West by arming the Soviets and the Allies.

The US did not "almost singlehandedly" win the war in the West and it did not "almost single handedly" arm Russia. Britain, perhaps, but not Russia. It helped Russia, but only to a fraction of Russia's total output. Russia bore the heaviest brunt of taking down Nazi Germany especially in terms of losses of men and materials by far. Needless to say, it was the Red Army that took Berlin.

Ertugrul:


People like you deserve make dem wipe cord for neck, just see rubbish u dy talk... because Russia and china have tested hypersonic does it mean they are now more advanced than USA... u be clown, forming smart dat u get news from independent sources...lol...well Russia disinformation is top notch anyways

So because I have a different view to your narrative, I should be wiped cord… interesting.
Nothing to back your statement up except anger and frustration. You are one of the reasons Nigeria is still backwards.
It’s shows you are a sheep, a zombie and that’s what you truly are. You are created and mearnt to follow I instructions and orders. You can’t think for yourself.
Congrats to you zombie.

OBALOLA55:
ALL THESE RUSSIAN BOTS SEF

Make point. And if you are out of reasonable contribution, just get out. Lame

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But some people did it and they are considered the moral police of the world
My guess was right. M people.

wirinet:

In a nuclear conflagration with NATO, Russia will become a nuclear waste land for centuries. Yes the remaining NATO countries will also suffer devastating consequences, it due to its shear size and spread, many more cities and people on the NATO side will survive. Its the effect on the whole planet of nuclear winter we are not sure of yet.

Russia the largest country in the world

You asked your people to come fight, they ran away. Are they with you in your stupid military operation in Ukraine?

Your neighbour said they had freedom of choice, you said no they did not because they were your neighbour. Are you human?

When your enemies were getting too friendly with your neighbour, isn't it because you were becoming too unfriendly with them?

The evil success in Cremea was so sweet that you always want to destroy and grab lands to show you're powerful. Putin is a devil.

I personally believe mutual respect and friendly negotiation with Ukraine would have given him what he wanted from them rather than making himself a terror to his innocent neighbours.

Buhari is a Putin who doesn't believe others must live happily until he has satisfied his fulani herdsmen terrorists. They covet our land and have been destroying our education, economy, national identity and aspirations. My Yoruba people, let's go back home.

wirinet:

In a nuclear conflagration with NATO, Russia will become a nuclear waste land for centuries. Yes the remaining NATO countries will also suffer devastating consequences, it due to its shear size and spread, many more cities and people on the NATO side will survive.

If there is an all out Nuclear war the whole of Europe will be destroyed, not so Russia because of its spread all the way to China and the Pacific Ocean. The whole of Europe can fit into one corner of Russia. North America may survive by sheer dint of size and separation.

Princedapace:


Who supported Afganistan to defend her self? Or simply becus American called them terrorists? Any ways, Russia is fighting off Nazists in Ukraine and NATO is supporting the Nazists. I am not one of those who swallow everything from western media.

With heavy sanctions on Russia, supply of weapons by NATO and intelligence gathering along with forces on ground to help Nazists, Russia has annexed four regions. She is doing well. Not even USA could withstand what Russia has stood so far.

Let America go to war and gets sanctioned up and down, let me see if she can survive it. I dont blame u as u go about insulting someone.

Everything the west tells u is true.
Did the west also tell u that they carried out coup in Ukraine in 2014 which started this whole problem? Did the west also tell u that they have backed Ukraine to slaughter Russian speaking people in the Dumbas region since 2014 and over 10k Russians have died since then?

Did they also tell you that there were agreements tha
t NATO will not expand east wise but here, NATO led by USA has been lobbying countries bordering Russia to join. Something America will never accept. I can imagine Russian weapons in the border between USA and Mexico.
But hey, u dont care about these points. As long as west is concerned, they are always right.

How I wish most people are this informed

Well anyOne who could believe in religion, could believe in anything

temitope27:
Omo Putin is not joking ooo, thou I support Russia, Putin should please help drop something for England too


Like for RUSSIA, share for Ukraine,nato

And your home in akure will not excape nuclear bomb too

Chai imagine a human wishing evil and death to his fellow human being

Evil wil not depart from such

God bless Nigeria and God bless the USA.

God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

And u think Ukraine is the only con3 fight Russia?

bassdow:


You really have a lot to learn about.

Moreover if the WEST (including USA) were that strong, they would have used their strength long ago. Seem you really don't know how many failed attempts have been made to invade Russia.

Current crisis in Ukraine is another strategy by the WEST to be closer to Russia.

Mind you, Russia is bigger than 3 Continents combined hence could attack more countries than others could.

The leverage Russia has in terms of land mass alone, USA and the WEST need many outposts to have such advantage hence their reason for trying to expand into Ukraine.

Russia's demand is very simple - we know what you people are after, do what you want but don't come anywhere closer to us and that includes any countries sharing borders with us.

And USA is not even very far from Russia. So on many fronts, Russia has got advantages. Then again, NATO is made up of over 30-countries hence in terms of money, they would surpass Russia but then again, the secrecy in Russia is just like that in North korea hence even the west that's scared of Russia following the little they know about them, have no idea of their actual strengths.

Even recently, they reminded Ukraine never to fire weapons into Russia, and have continued to be selective in what weapons they send to Ukraine because they know that should Ukraine use their weapons to attack Russia, it means war between Russia and the WEST, and the WEST, despite their perceived strength, don't want such.

my fear, which I suspect even USA must have suspected is, PUTIN might not even be the toughest in Russia.

meaning should Putin drop dead today, they would many more deadly humans to take over from him.

The USA made Russia, and China what they became today.

You don't render one useless by starving them. You render one useless by seeing you provide almost all their needs.

Russia, China, etc have learnt to be self reliant hence why the plethorea of Sanctions on them never worked.

in fact the level of Sanctions leveled on Russia, to the extent that the WEST ran out of Sanctions (after sanctioning even their Dogs, cats, etc), I doubt any other country would have survived but see what's happening. To a large extend, the Sanctions seems to negatively affect those giving the sanctions rather than those being given.

Imagine if Nigeria is to be given just 10% of such sanctions, I wonder if we would survive. or if almost the entire developed world decides to fight us, if we would last a day.

Wow, lovely and intelligent write up.

Can I meet you…

Go back to history to have an insight of the conflict between USA and Japan with regards WW II. Before Hiroshima and Nagasaki there was Pearl Harbor right on American soil..while Japan fooled the USA towards peace talks, it went behind to bomb the biggest American naval base. War no good my brother, it doesn't matter who's right or wrong..

Nukilia:


Russia should play a game like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Till date they have never nuked any nation.