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Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by IjeBos(m): 7:38pm On Oct 03, 2022
If anyone wants to garner a better understanding of why Putin hates Zelensky and Ukriane, watch Zelensky's sitcom, "Servant of the People". I watched it at the beginning of the war to get a feel of Ukrainian culture. I was amazed at how Western looking the show was. Some of the jokes were western inspired. There was US history and a lot of digs at Russia. Putin had to be upset Ukraine was gravitating to the West.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Travesty: 7:39pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:
lol, don't deflect, I thought it was going to be a blitzkrieg military operation within few days in favour of Russia, but the war is still raging seven months after with Ukraine doing the counteroffensive now

Russia isn't a world power, it is just a regional power and it is gradually losing that status.

I'm also surprised here, some nigerians that often complain about western imperialism and colonialism are now supporting this madman and his invasion
If You Know How Many Sanctions Have Been Levied On Russia And How Many Billion Dollars Have Been Invested to Support Ukraine. Then You'll Know That Even America Would Have Been Struggling Till Now.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by godofuck231: 7:39pm On Oct 03, 2022
Vl3ly:
Russia is fighting NATO and EU and also Ukraine
which makes it the most powerful country in earth, bad as it is
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Neoteny7: 7:43pm On Oct 03, 2022
DeepSight:


The US did not "almost singlehandedly" win the war in the West and it did not "almost single handedly" arm Russia. Britain, perhaps, but not Russia. It helped Russia, but only to a fraction of Russia's total output. Russia bore the heaviest brunt of taking down Nazi Germany especially in terms of losses of men and materials by far. Needless to say, it was the Red Army that took Berlin.

Then you need to read about the Lend-Lease program wherein the US armed the soviets, almost 18 million tons of equipment, 95% of it from the US, since from 1941, before Pearl Harbor.

Also, the only reason the soviets took Berlin was because of a mysterious halt order from Supreme HQ Allied Command, to which Churchill was bitter to the end of his grave. Not just Churchill, but most of the allies and some US generals.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Ujm1: 7:44pm On Oct 03, 2022
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Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by wirinet(m): 7:44pm On Oct 03, 2022
bassdow:




Mind you, Russia is bigger than 3 Continents combined hence could attack more countries than others could.

False. Which 3 continents is Russia bigger than? Maybe Australia and Antarctica. Because North America alone is bigger than Russia. Even South America is bigger than Russia. Africa is way bigger than Russia.

Abi your Google don carry virus?
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by bassdow: 7:49pm On Oct 03, 2022
LogicnReason:
How you go pass through this life without common sense na? Look at the bolded I made from your post, they show how shallow you are. You accuse western media of fake news, but you believe Russian media when they told you they retreated from land which they acquired with the blood of their soldiers. Did you ask yourself why they retreated from it? Its because Ukraine was trashing them, this is common sense, not fake news. When Russia say they annexed those regions, it is mere words and not strength of battle. That is why the next day after the annexation speech lyman was taken from them. Nato works in an organised system and in time through due process Ukraine will definitely be accepted because if they don't Russia will continue to 'steal' Ukrainian lands. US used nuclear bomb in the past, so is that why Russia wants to repeat it? Is that a good argument you are making? If Ghana enter Nigeria and say they want to nuke us because USA did in the past to another country will you say that is good thing. Now tell, why do you hate Zelensky but love Putin? Because Zelensky is defending his country? Guy you nor well. I pity your lifetime on this earth

Actually, they retreated, not because they wanted to but because there was a change of tactics.

Right now, even the WEST have been weakened. You know that game called X & O we play in primary school and you're given 2 or 3 way - meaning no escape. That's what Russia has done to the WEST currently. Either option they try to take, they would get hurt.

For me, none of my business. before now, I knoew nothng of russia but seeing a country survive and stand strong despite being fought by over 30-strong countries, made me look into them.

And I'm not one who takes what I'm given verbatim without looking further

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Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Shaev7(m): 7:50pm On Oct 03, 2022
paafin:


War is war..

America couldn't defeat Japan in the WW11, so they used nuclear weapons against them..

Ukraine should feel what it means going up against a world power!
Omo, war is war oooo
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by PaNnamdi: 7:50pm On Oct 03, 2022
paafin:


War is war..

America couldn't defeat Japan in the WW11, so they used nuclear weapons against them..

Ukraine should feel what it means going up against a world power!
What if the west smuggled some nuclear weapons to Ukraine?
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Awesometouch1: 7:51pm On Oct 03, 2022
paafin:


War is war..

America couldn't defeat Japan in the WW11, so they used nuclear weapons against them..

Ukraine should feel what it means going up against a world power!
America defeated Japan before the use of nuclear weapon.
The American Japanese war was fought all over Asia and Japan was beaten all the way back to their borders.
Japan was so badly beaten they could no longer fight back but refused to formerly surrender. The nuclear Bombs forced them to surrender.
What we have in Ukraine is a totally different thing.
Anyway, Russia can't go nuclear without the US knowing it.
There are measures to still ensure their defeat even if they use tactical nuclear weapons.
Russia knows better than try the nuclear option. It's not just gonna work.
Their only option is to win conventionally but that couldn't happen.

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Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Neoteny7: 7:52pm On Oct 03, 2022
Reference:


Good attempt but not entirely true.
The truth about the nuclear strike on Japan was two fold.

One. As you said the fear of casualties, but not civilian casualties as in Dresden where German citizens died in mass (the US didn't care about Japanese civilians by then). But the fear of combat casualties in the event of a ground invasion estimated by General George Marshal to be a million including 250,000 soldiers killed based on projections from the bloody campaigns on the nearby islands of Iwo Jima and Okinawa, casualty figures which the American public could not accept.

So they needed a surgical strike with such great shock and awe that the Japanese will loose every will to continue fighting. So they targeted two things. The largest industrial port city complex and army headquarters within B52 range to decimate the Japanese war production and command and control, and then the largest populated city, Kokura (largest outside Tokyo, for they also wanted to avoid the imperial palace, harming the emperor and other cultural sites and sensibilities that will have galvanised the people to continue fighting) to break the will of the government.

Secondly, they also wanted to show the Soviet Union that they had the means to take on any adversary should the war have continued beyond 1945. For Stalin had cut short the neutrality pact he signed with the Japanese in 1941 (to have expired in 1946) and seeing how Japan and the US were bogged down in horrendous attrition attacked the northern flanks of the Japanese empire.

The US did not want what had happened in Europe where the Soviets beat the allies to Berlin to happen again in the East and pushed for a quick surrender of the Japanese to its forces rather than have the Soviets invade and seize imperial Japan.

So the first (and only use so far) of nuclear power in war had more to do with geo-politics as with military strategy as is playing out in Eastern Ukraine today.

I quite agree with this, but the casualties estimation also factored in civilian collateral damage, even if on paper, because the US was thinking of holding the Nazis accountable for their atrocities for the sake of moral relativism, in order to appear as the victors not just in blood. Nuremberg would've been more hypocritical if the US had also invaded Japan or dropped incendiary explosives and killed millions of Japs.

And yes the second reason is largely valid, but the US at that point was not much concerned with Stalin because they thought the end of fascism in Germany and Italy would spell the demise of Stalin and like-minded tyrants through popular uprising. Besides, with most of Europe and the Soviet union in ruins and economies shattered, the US was feeling a bit on top of the world.

It was the post-war ideological differences and the partition of conquered Germany that made Stalin a matter of great geopolitical concern to the US and its allies.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by bassdow: 7:52pm On Oct 03, 2022
IjeBos:
If anyone wants to garner a better understanding of why Putin hates Zelensky and Ukriane, watch Zelensky's sitcom, "Servant of the People". I watched it at the beginning of the war to get a feel of Ukrainian culture. I was amazed at how Western looking the show was. Some of the jokes were western inspired. There was US history and a lot of digs at Russia. Putin had to be upset Ukraine was gravitating to the West.

Western culture is one of the numerous issues some countires including Russia has with the WEST.

But that in no way is cause of this war.

This war / fight started because the WEST (controlled by USA) went against an agreement, and choose to try siting their outPost near Russian border
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Father4all: 7:52pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.
who appoint you as American spokesman?

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Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by INDUSTRIALFAN(m): 7:53pm On Oct 03, 2022
temitope27:
no worry,ur wife won't be touched grin na just small thing Russia go give them
ahn ahn grin
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Father4all: 7:55pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:
lol, don't deflect, I thought it was going to be a blitzkrieg military operation within few days in favour of Russia, but the war is still raging seven months after with Ukraine doing the counteroffensive now

Russia isn't a world power, it is just a regional power and it is gradually losing that status.

I'm also surprised here, some nigerians that often complain about western imperialism and colonialism are now supporting this madman and his invasion
not a world power abi? Yet, America could not confront them directly except with PROXY clap for yourself
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Fira09(m): 7:56pm On Oct 03, 2022
Mission ************.

Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Father4all: 7:57pm On Oct 03, 2022
Felyyaks:


Nuclear war isn't what the Earth needs to experience again.
Nuking a Nation doesn't prove power but inhumanity
this one still dey believe America propaganda. Rubbish
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by GENES11S: 7:57pm On Oct 03, 2022
Vl3ly:
Russia is fighting NATO and EU and also Ukraine

Shey na Dem say dem wan fight....make them they fight na. Soon more countries go follow support Ukraine.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by bassdow: 7:58pm On Oct 03, 2022
Awesometouch1:

America defeated Japan before the use of nuclear weapon.
The American Japanese war was fought all over Asia and Japan was beaten all the way back to their borders.
Japan was so badly beaten they could no longer fight back but refused to formerly surrender. The nuclear Bombs forced them to surrender.
What we have in Ukraine is a totally different thing.
Anyway, Russia can't go nuclear without the US knowing it.
There are measures to still ensure their defeat even if they use tactical nuclear weapons.
Russia knows better than try the nuclear option. It's not just gonna work.
Their only option is to win conventionally but that couldn't happen.

Russia has got no interest in using Nuclear weapon on Ukraine. I suspect what they're doing now is making the West understand they are serious.

Moreover both Ukraine and the WEST dare not touch those 4-regions that's been annexed to Russia because that would be a war on Russia.

Reason why even the WEST now is tired. Most times, I feel really stupid being involved in certain conversations.

The WEST is, and have continued to be very scared of Russia - they have their reasons despite trying to make others think otherwise
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Osariemen12: 8:00pm On Oct 03, 2022
Masterito:
Lol, how has Russia helped Nigeria or Africa? Bleep Putin!







Never. Putin is the surest man on earth.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by bassdow: 8:01pm On Oct 03, 2022
IMAliyu2:

Nope
Russia are a burden to China now, The Chinese leadership are not war hungry, they will not risk the future of their country's development for Putin's ego.
They may just use that opportunity to severe ties with Russia.


You really think this war is on Putin alone. Kai
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by riczy(m): 8:03pm On Oct 03, 2022
Toktee:
Russia that's about to be kicked out of Kharson after a massive defeat in Lyman.. You should say Ukrain should temper justice.



Where is GODSON
Russia (Putin) d man with balls said he wud do anything within his power to protect his Nation, I saw this coming!
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by GENES11S: 8:04pm On Oct 03, 2022
maasoap:


I don't think USA and NATO will retaliate if Russia nukes Ukraine, don't be deceived. Unless they are ready for multiple nukes dropping like rain everywhere.

USA will not attack Russia with nukes unprovoked. They are too smart to do that.

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Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by DeepSight(m): 8:04pm On Oct 03, 2022
Neoteny7:


Then you need to read about the Lend-Lease program wherein the US armed the soviets, almost 18 million tons of equipment, 95% of it from the US, since from 1941, before Pearl Harbor.

Also, the only reason the soviets took Berlin was because of a mysterious halt order from Supreme HQ Allied Command, to which Churchill was bitter to the end of his grave. Not just Churchill, but most of the allies and some US generals.

I have already dealt with this with another poster who made similar assumptions. See below -

DeepSight:


No one says they didnt help, but to quantify that help as constituting most of Russia's resources is plain wrong.
We can start with small statistics.

Tanks - Russia had over 108, 000 tanks produced in WW2.
The US gave them a total of 15, 000 tanks.

Most? Think again bro.

DeepSight:
Aircraft - Russia used over 170, 000 aircraft in WW2.
The US sent them about 15, 000.

Most?
Think again.

DeepSight:
Money
Total Russian Military Expenditure - $192 Billion
Total spent by the US on Russia - $11 Billion.

Most?
Think again.

As for your mysterious halt order, its up to you to decipher it. Even among different Red Army divisions there was competition to be the first to reach Berlin. All parties understood the importance and significance.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by IjeBos(m): 8:08pm On Oct 03, 2022
bassdow:


Western culture is one of the numerous issues some countires including Russia has with the WEST.

But that in no way is cause of this war.

This war / fight started because the WEST (controlled by USA) went against an agreement, and choose to try siting their outPost near Russian border
What outpost? I think Putin felt that the USSR breakup was a mistake and his goal was to build it back. Ukraine gained independence in 1991 and since then has been gravitating toward the West. He wanted to shut down that Western influence and try to build back a larger/more powerful/important Russia. He overestimated.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Nobody: 8:08pm On Oct 03, 2022
maasoap:


USA still had to use recently discovered nuclear bomb only because Japan was proving to be stubborn even after Germany had surrendered.
Don't you think for the fact that USA ENTERED the war late should have given them advantage to subdue Japan without resorting to the use of nuclear weapons? Weakass USA

The USA didn't use Nuclear weapons; they send atomic weapons during August 1945! The intransigence of Japan gave them the opportunity to TEST the atomic weapons! They tested it on Hiroshima and Nagasaki only! Learn new knowledge, bros.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by bassdow: 8:10pm On Oct 03, 2022
Backpedal:


Just saying

If the rest of the world was arming the Taliban to the teeth and training them when they were at war with the USA; how do you think the US forces would have fated down there ?

That's something Russia should have tried to stop at the source BUT I guess they weren't as aggressive as USA. and that shows that USA are the evil here.

but then again, issue in Ukraine differs from the talibans.

Russia might not even nuke Ukraine but USA hence reason they've been constantly warning the WEST to limit their involvement.

Why you think for several months now, NATO have refused to accept Ukraine's application form to join NATO ?
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Johnboom: 8:10pm On Oct 03, 2022
okoroemeka:
which world war 3?Russia that can't defeat Ukraine,the Russian people better stop Mr Putin before pride and ego destroys their nation,even isreal will give Russia serious headache talkmore of nato countries
Is this the Professor of Vegetables? Thank you Sir for your assistance.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Kingozymandias(m): 8:11pm On Oct 03, 2022
paafin:


War is war..

America couldn't defeat Japan in the WW11, so they used nuclear weapons against them..

Ukraine should feel what it means going up against a world power!

All these children that won't go and graduate from a university keep embarrassing themselves online
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by bassdow: 8:12pm On Oct 03, 2022
Gudridance:
Sum1 should murder PUTIN already

The fight is more than him.

And I fear, there are several more deadly people waiting to replace Putin should such happen.

Moreover who wants to murder him ?

Those who love him, or what and even then, you think it's gonna be easy getting access to him.

It's much easier overthrowing a USA government than a Russian/South Korean government especially following their level of secrecy to say the least.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by IjeBos(m): 8:14pm On Oct 03, 2022
bassdow:


Russia has got no interest in using Nuclear weapon on Ukraine. I suspect what they're doing now is making the West understand they are serious.

Moreover both Ukraine and the WEST dare not touch those 4-regions that's been annexed to Russia because that would be a war on Russia.

Reason why even the WEST now is tired. Most times, I feel really stupid being involved in certain conversations.

The WEST is, and have continued to be very scared of Russia - they have their reasons despite trying to make others think otherwise

You mean those regions, one of which Ukraine took back yesterday. You should probably get your news from better sources.

Ukraine retakes a key city Putin claimed to have annexed. Here's why it matters.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-retakes-lyman-russia-retreat-putin-annexation-rcna50357
"Ukraine said it had retaken full control of a key eastern city on Sunday, handing the Kremlin another stinging setback just days after Russian President Vladimir Putin proclaimed that the area would belong to his country forever."

Russia’s Fast Retreat: A Day After Putin Announces Annexation, Troops Forced Out Of Lyman
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/10/01/russias-fast-retreat-a-day-after-putin-announces-annexation-troops-forced-out-of-lyman/?sh=5d03e2eb5629
"TOPLINE Russia said Saturday it was retreating from the eastern Ukrainian city of Lyman, a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin decreed the city would be brought under Russian control through a widely condemned annexation in an embarrassingly quick concession from the Kremlin."

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Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by GENES11S: 8:14pm On Oct 03, 2022
Putin don't listen to all this gari munching Nigerian supporters oo. They destroy their country and japa to better ones oo.


Make them no push Russia go comith suicide oo. As if turning Russia into North Korea is not enough.
5 misiles targeting your major oil networks and you are setback for decades. Put ego aside and embrace peace.

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