bassdow:



You really think this war is on Putin alone. Kai

If you have an objection, or a differing opinion, you know you are free to make it.
I might possibly learn something I didn't know.

You don't change anyone's mind by dancing around a point, while never really making any.

IjeBos:


Lol.. The US is not afraid of Russia in terms on Military strength. But, the US does understand there are no winners in a NUCLEAR war, it's just how badly will you lose.

You know what You know.

I know what I know.

You are Right/Wrong in your own way.

I am Right/Wrong in my own way.

End of DisCussion

bassdow:


You know what You know.

I know what I know.

You are Right/Wrong in your own way.

I am Right/Wrong in my own way.

End of DisCussion

And I'm saying what you think you know is wrong. End of Discussion.

Kingozymandias:


All these children that won't go and graduate from a university keep embarrassing themselves online

No be their fault na. ASUU and FG no gree them complete their education.

bassdow:


Russia has got no interest in using Nuclear weapon on Ukraine. I suspect what they're doing now is making the West understand they are serious.

Moreover both Ukraine and the WEST dare not touch those 4-regions that's been annexed to Russia because that would be a war on Russia.

Reason why even the WEST now is tired. Most times, I feel really stupid being involved in certain conversations.

The WEST is, and have continued to be very scared of Russia - they have their reasons despite trying to make others think otherwise

Any nuclear power has every reason to be concerned about any other nuclear powered country especially a crazy one like Russia.

Even you will be scared if given a stick to kill an aggressive rat or cat in a room. Not that the cat can win but you know it'll hurt you before getting killed

I don't know if scare is the right word for it but Russia is the one that should be morbidly scared because their own fate in a nuclear exchange is a complete annihilation. However, they'll hurt the West badly too. It'll be quite devastating.
Even the US knows they can't stop all Russian Nuclear attacks from reaching them.
They may stop almost all but not all. Them too go collect before they are able to neutralize Russia.

God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

Quit spewing crap. The US is the cause of all this rubbish and they're now currently stoking problems between China and Taiwan. The US is the biggest threat to world peace

ken6488:

Shut up you mean NATO

Ukraine was defeated since march

What Russia is fighting now is NATO

Yes,Russia is fighting with NATO truly.
NATO nations are systematically testing the efficacy of some of their weapons in this war.

IjeBos:


You mean those regions, one of which Ukraine took back yesterday. You should probably get your news from better sources.

Ukraine retakes a key city Putin claimed to have annexed. Here's why it matters.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-retakes-lyman-russia-retreat-putin-annexation-rcna50357
"Ukraine said it had retaken full control of a key eastern city on Sunday, handing the Kremlin another stinging setback just days after Russian President Vladimir Putin proclaimed that the area would belong to his country forever."

Russia’s Fast Retreat: A Day After Putin Announces Annexation, Troops Forced Out Of Lyman
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/10/01/russias-fast-retreat-a-day-after-putin-announces-annexation-troops-forced-out-of-lyman/?sh=5d03e2eb5629
"TOPLINE Russia said Saturday it was retreating from the eastern Ukrainian city of Lyman, a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin decreed the city would be brought under Russian control through a widely condemned annexation in an embarrassingly quick concession from the Kremlin."

Once again, I just have no strength please.

You are Right
I am Right
We both are Right
End of Discussion abeg. Food is too costly for me to waste mine arguing senselessly

God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

Maybe they don't have good delivery systems but they are the ones currently carrying everyone and everything to the ISS including US astronauts. In fact their Soyuz records are the most reliable as accepted by Western experts. In fact America's current space engine program is based on Russian RD-180 rocket. Maybe I am missing something or maybe I do research rather than rely on CNN. I wonder

God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

so in your mind Russia is actually fighting only Ukraine right? USA alone has released over 12 billion usd worth of ammunition ,equipment and fund to Ukraine, should I also remind you that almost all EU and NATO countries have contributed weapons , ammunition ,tactical support, personnel and huge Funding to Ukraine in this same war with Russia! in short Russia is up alone against the entire EU and NATO countries including the USA! yet Russia ant defeated yet, if they didn't interfere, Russia would have won Ukraine since. nevertheless, the entire European continent are also feeling the heat of the war in terms of their record breaking astronomical inflation imagine powerful Germany recording the highest inflation rate ever since WW2, same goes for uk breaking their highest ever recorded inflation since 1983, high cost of gas which is even inadequate. seems they are the biggest loser in this war, Russia aint losing.

Felyyaks:
Putin must be stopped, unfortunately this nut is to hard for the US to crack

He will be the 1st to perish.

Felyyaks:
Putin must be stopped, unfortunately this nut is to hard for the US to crack

The man has been demystified... Here is a nation ,on paper, said to have over half a million combat ready troops being beaten blue black by a country without a proper army ....an army that CIA only started raising after 2014 invasion

Layman just got back into the hands of Ukrainian. A key town in donest region that Russia declared as part of her territory

Princedapace:


Make una dey decieve una selves. Russia is fighting NATO here bro. The USA and her allies provide weapons and intelligence to Ukrain. In war, Intelligence plays the greater part. Russia stood her ground with all NATO intelligence gathering and heavy sanctions.

When America went to war in Afginistan, she went with her allies o. She didnt go there alone and there were no sanctions againt America, yet, America lost the war.
Here, Russia is fighting without an allies, does her intelligence gathering alone, fighting against another country that gets intelligence gathering from NATO and USA, weapons plus heavy sanctions. Russia has tried. No country can sustain that.
That is why none of NATO countries can fight Russia alone. They have to and must be a team to fight Russia.

This is why it amuses me when I see nairalanders foolishly spewing crap about this conflict. For Russia to fight for as long as they already have means they're incredibly powerful. The US and all the NATO countries are providing aid to Ukraine but they're still having their asses handed to them by the Russians

bassdow:


Once again, I just have no strength please.

You are Right
I am Right
We both are Right
End of Discussion abeg. Food is too costly for me to waste mine arguing senselessly

We are not both right. Facts aren't malleable. Russia tried to annex land they didn't fully control in a sham election as part of some propaganda/PR move. Part of that land they just retreated from. And you're on here regurgitating that propaganda. Admit you were wrong and enjoy your dinner.

MansoryMX:


How? Because last time I checked! Russia was a member of NATO and Ukraine wasn’t. Russia’s bully character made NATO expelled them! So how is NATO pushing them to war? A sovereignty nation was invaded by Russia! Please explain to me how NATO is the cause sir

Russia was never a member of NATO. They applied to join but were rejected. The sole purpose of NATO is to counter Russia and this shows how powerful Russia is.
People are making it seem like this war is between Ukraine and Russia but the truth is that it's Russia against Ukraine + all NATO countries

OceanRed:
so in your mind Russia is actually fighting only Ukraine right? USA alone has released over 12 billion usd worth of ammunition ,equipment and fund to Ukraine, should I also remind you that almost all EU and NATO countries have contributed weapons , ammunition ,tactical support, personnel and huge Funding to Ukraine in this same war with Russia! in short Russia is up alone against the entire EU and NATO countries including the USA! yet Russia ant defeated yet, if they didn't interfere, Russia would have won Ukraine since. nevertheless, the entire European continent are also feeling the heat of the war in terms of their record breaking astronomical inflation imagine powerful Germany recording the highest inflation rate ever since WW2, same goes for uk breaking their highest ever recorded inflation since 1983, high cost of gas which is even inadequate. seems they are the biggest loser in this war, Russia aint losing.

Russia has help from the places she made friends ..Iran, Syria , chenchen and other nations bold enough to come forward ...but for Iranian hardware , Russia would have taken more heats than the present


As for economic challenge, it is good for Europe to diverse ...Herman seized three refineries from Russia control in Germany buying crude from across the word ...some country has reported enough gas for the winter without buying from Russia


It is good for them ...good for Isreal an others

Graceunlimitedd:
Ukraine went against Which world power?
isn't Russia the aggressor here?
if you don't know anything learn to keep your mouth shut

Check the genesis of this war, you'll know that Ukraine (and in extension, NATO) are at fault here.
War isn't black and white, there are lots of grey areas

bassdow:


You really have a lot to learn about.

Moreover if the WEST (including USA) were that strong, they would have used their strength long ago. Seem you really don't know how many failed attempts have been made to invade Russia.

Current crisis in Ukraine is another strategy by the WEST to be closer to Russia.

Mind you, Russia is bigger than 3 Continents combined hence could attack more countries than others could.

The leverage Russia has in terms of land mass alone, USA and the WEST need many outposts to have such advantage hence their reason for trying to expand into Ukraine.

Russia's demand is very simple - we know what you people are after, do what you want but don't come anywhere closer to us and that includes any countries sharing borders with us.

And USA is not even very far from Russia. So on many fronts, Russia has got advantages. Then again, NATO is made up of over 30-countries hence in terms of money, they would surpass Russia but then again, the secrecy in Russia is just like that in North korea hence even the west that's scared of Russia following the little they know about them, have no idea of their actual strengths.

Even recently, they reminded Ukraine never to fire weapons into Russia, and have continued to be selective in what weapons they send to Ukraine because they know that should Ukraine use their weapons to attack Russia, it means war between Russia and the WEST, and the WEST, despite their perceived strength, don't want such.

my fear, which I suspect even USA must have suspected is, PUTIN might not even be the toughest in Russia.

meaning should Putin drop dead today, they would many more deadly humans to take over from him.

The USA made Russia, and China what they became today.

You don't render one useless by starving them. You render one useless by seeing you provide almost all their needs.

Russia, China, etc have learnt to be self reliant hence why the plethorea of Sanctions on them never worked.

in fact the level of Sanctions leveled on Russia, to the extent that the WEST ran out of Sanctions (after sanctioning even their Dogs, cats, etc), I doubt any other country would have survived but see what's happening. To a large extend, the Sanctions seems to negatively affect those giving the sanctions rather than those being given.

Imagine if Nigeria is to be given just 10% of such sanctions, I wonder if we would survive. or if almost the entire developed world decides to fight us, if we would last a day.

There goes the ifs. Nothing concrete, just assumptions. If Russia defense systems was that strong, why didn’t they stop the hell fire that landed in Syria airport . That was just a tip of iceberg. We triple dare them to try anything.

PaNnamdi:

What if the west smuggled some nuclear weapons to Ukraine?

I still doubt Russia has any plan to use Nuclear weapon at all.

But if they do, it might be on USA. Why you think Russia warns the WEST, and not Ukraine ?

See eh, Some of us have people both in Russia and Ukraine, + don't just rely on what media outlets throw at us.

Both Russia and the WESt have their pockets of lies. it's left for you to filter through them.

It's like writing a document telling we Nigerians that you surveyed a Land in Oshodi, Lagos and the grass there is Green. it doesn't matter what your document says, those there physically, or have/know people there or knows the terrain would easily decipher the actual truth.

Reason when Lying Mohammed speaks his usual truth, I need not think much to be bothered.

ZombieSlayer1:

Russia was never a member of NATO. They applied to join but were rejected. The sole purpose of NATO is to counter Russia and this shows how powerful Russia is.
People are making it seem like this war is between Ukraine and Russia but the truth is that it's Russia against Ukraine + all NATO countries

I'm in the US, outside of a handful of volunteers, no US troops have been deployed to Ukraine. I think it's the same for ALL NATO countries. And there is a very specific reason for that. If a NATO country is attacked, there is a MUTUAL DEFENSE AGREEMENT.
Meaning all NATO countries would have to fight back. The US doesn't want a wider war so has stayed out so not to trigger mutual defense agreement. And that is why even Russia has been very careful not to even accidently strike inside a NATO country.

etrange:
Every small thing, Nuclear. The fact that they have these bombs and the materials to make them is the only reason Russia can afford to hold the world hostage. Putin would rather nuke the entire planet that go down alone. He's taking some parts of another country and some people here are supporting him on the basis of thier hatred for the West. Most Nigerians can't separate concerns or get rid thier herd mentality.

Herd mentality is actually what you and many other nairalanders suffer from. You refused to do your own research but rather choose to feed on what MSM shoves down your throat. Do you think Putin woke up one day and decided to invade his neighbor? Common sense didn't tell you there must be a reason for it?
You people need to learn to read. NATO is using Ukraine to get at Russia and the foolish Zellensky is allowing his country be used as the war zone. Right now, Russia has already taken the parts of Ukraine they want to take and nothing will happen.
Think about it; Russia is fighting alone against Ukraine + All of the NATO countries, no other country is powerful enough to do this. Even the US you guys are hailing is afraid of Russia, if it were any other smaller country I'm sure you know the US would've invaded

ogascomax:


Some of you guys are kids on this matter. If Russia uses any tactical nukes nothing will happen. Period.

Leave these people, they know nothing. All the US and the rest of the world will do is condemn and threaten but they wont do anything else

maasoap:


I don't think USA and NATO will retaliate if Russia nukes Ukraine, don't be deceived. Unless they are ready for multiple nukes dropping like rain everywhere.

Hmm, Russia has 6000 nukesz USA alone has 5700. Apart from NATO. Do you think Russia can win?

bassdow:


I still doubt Russia has any plan to use Nuclear weapon at all.

But if they do, it might be on USA. Why you think Russia warns the WEST, and not Ukraine ?

See eh, Some of us have people both in Russia and Ukraine, + don't just rely on what media outlets throw at us.

Both Russia and the WESt have their pockets of lies. it's left for you to filter through them.

It's like writing a document telling we Nigerians that you surveyed a Land in Oshodi, Lagos and the grass there is Green. it doesn't matter what your document says, those there physically, or have/know people there or knows the terrain would easily decipher the actual truth.

Reason when Lying Mohammed speaks his usual truth, I need not think much to be bothered.

What are you going on about. You seem to not understand how Mutual Assured Destruction works. The minute Russia launces a Nuclear Weapon at the US, the whole US Nuclear arsenal will be in the air as well of that of UK and France. Parts of the US and ALL of Russia will be wiped out. Again, Putin only launces that weapon if he decides he wants to destroy his country and commit Russian genocide. And given a lot of his generals have children and Family in the West and in Russia, I doubt he's not assassinated before then.

Am even confused if I should still invest for my life

God1000:

It could have been a Blitzkrieg without the dumping of ammunitions into Ukraine. You also have to realize that there were so many constraints to the SMO. With the escalation made by Russia, let's wait and see their response to Ukrainian counteroffensives. If you think the gains made by Ukraine following their recent offensive operations will be permanent, you're in for a shocker.

IjeBos:


I'm in the US, outside of a handful of volunteers, no US troops have been deployed to Ukraine. I think it's the same for ALL NATO countries. And there is a very specific reason for that. If a NATO country is attacked, there is a MUTUAL DEFENSE AGREEMENT.
Meaning all NATO countries would have to fight back. The US doesn't want a wider war so has stayed out so not to trigger mutual defense agreement. And that is why even Russia has been very careful not to even accidently strike inside a NATO country.

No NATO troop will be deployed in Russia because it'll rapidly lead to an escalation of this conflict. The US is more than happy to have the war confined to Ukraine, they know Russia isn't bluffing about using nuclear weapons if needed. In the end, Ukraine will be the biggest loser and Zellensky the biggest fool for letting his country be used as staging ground for a battle of giants

Goodnigga:
Hmm, Russia has 6000 nukesz USA alone has 5700. Apart from NATO. Do you think Russia can win?

Given everything we have seen regarding Russian Military readiness in this Ukraine war, I would be hard pressed to believe they have 6000 fully functional nukes. In fact it's not hard to believe in trying to fire some off, they probably don't nuke themselves.

ogascomax:
The Westerner media and propaganda, lies, fake news, misinformation etc are 5&6. Lyman was abandoned by Russian troops while they say Ukraine have re-captured it. They said Russian is losing the war and Russia have annexed 4 States. Now NATO have rejected Ukraine Friday bid to join them, USA, UN, European Unions have said that they will not accept the annexation and that is the worst they can do nothing else. Putin have told them that the USA is the only nation that have twice use nuclear weapons and that they have set the PRECEDENCE for the usage. Note this if Putin use nuclear weapon on Ukraine nothing will still happened. That comedian in Ukraine called president should get sense and stop listening to those that want to destroy his nation. Russia is not the enemy but USA, NATO and the West are the true enemies of Ukraine.

They are not states but regions and beside Russia does not control the four regions they annex

God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in the world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

You should rather be ashamed of yourself for typing rubbish...Clueless person forming woke...Do you know the things that goes underground and all that's leading to this particular war?..You just see things on the surface based on what the American and British media wants you to see and know...The devil you know is better than the angel you don't..

There's more to these things than we can understand...Get it clear, in this world of ours there must be war, there was wars in the past, there will be war and there will be more wars even in future as it is written in the holy bible.

So don't kill yourself forming defender of the universe.

Ukraine bite the hand that fed em, America dey put hand for wetin no concern them based on their own interest...Na Russia and him Smalley (Ukraine) get issue but Na Russia all of una dey face..

He be like when younger one do elder one strong thing,then the elder one decide to show am wetin e use pass am..

Nuclear weapons wey javelin go bomb?

Felyyaks:
Putin must be stopped, unfortunately this nut is to hard for the US to crack

nobody can stop putin