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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hargbo(m): 1:24pm On Oct 07, 2022
3strikes:
Good Morning all,

This is not a bashing post!!!

I have been advised to seek professional opinions on this.
Please I will need experts and professionals in the house to please advise on best approach on how to tackle this.

Quick summary:
During casting these areas were not well supported and almost gave way. From the look of things, beam seems to be affected.

@hajivince could you please explain the solutions you have proffered so far. I want the professionals in the house to weigh in on this to see if any of these approaches will work.



How can we correct this at this point?

Here is the link to the thread https://www.nairaland.com/7015272/nigerian-house-plan-construction-4-units

do you have a structural design

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hargbo(m): 1:24pm On Oct 07, 2022
Does anyone know the cost of getting demolition permit in Lagos
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jeff68: 1:31pm On Oct 07, 2022
hamtabfawaz:



Hello Sir: ₦10k ~ ₦15K

Thanks, how are you, family and business?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 2:10pm On Oct 07, 2022
When Govt said integrity test will be carried on suspected buildings, How is the integrity test carried out? is it using hammer to strike the pillars? or what.

How is this carried out in simple layman terms

Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 2:16pm On Oct 07, 2022
back2sender:
When Govt said integrity test will be carried on suspected buildings, How is the integrity test carried out? is it using hammer to strike the pillars? or what.

How is this carried out in simple layman terms

Thank you

There is an equipment for that .. that what they normally use when doing renovation and modification work
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 3:05pm On Oct 07, 2022
back2sender:
When Govt said integrity test will be carried on suspected buildings, How is the integrity test carried out? is it using hammer to strike the pillars? or what.

How is this carried out in simple layman terms

Thank you

Yes o... They will use hammer to break the concrete grin

I'm just kidding..

They use a tool (Schmidt hammer) that has a hammer inside it. This hammer is used to strike the concrete and records the time it takes for the vibration waves to be sent back. The time is then converted and used to determine the strength of your concrete.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 3:09pm On Oct 07, 2022
3strikes:
Good Morning all,

This is not a bashing post!!!

I have been advised to seek professional opinions on this.
Please I will need experts and professionals in the house to please advise on best approach on how to tackle this.

Quick summary:
During casting these areas were not well supported and almost gave way. From the look of things, beam seems to be affected.

@hajivince could you please explain the solutions you have proffered so far. I want the professionals in the house to weigh in on this to see if any of these approaches will work.



How can we correct this at this point?

Here is the link to the thread https://www.nairaland.com/7015272/nigerian-house-plan-construction-4-units


Carpentar should have supported it better.

My solution:
-Prop it using steel props.
-isolate the area
-controlled breaking of the beam (avoid excessive vibrations)
- Cast beam again..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 3:27pm On Oct 07, 2022
gbadexy:

The total sqm would determine the cost of the screeding.
As regards the paints, the cost is fair for what you would get for some known brands but I could definitely give you for less.
It doesn't sound like the place is more than a 3 bedroom bungalow... I assume the fence is included in the external paint. In any case, the ratio of the external to the internal is off. Even if satin covers very high and can complete it, the ceilings paint is not sufficient for an upstairs duplex.
If the painter promise to complete the whole job without requesting for extra, it's a good deal..

Good afternoon Sir, please what will be the cost of screeding for 100sqm?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Charisdesigns: 3:34pm On Oct 07, 2022
back2sender:
When Govt said integrity test will be carried on suspected buildings, How is the integrity test carried out? is it using hammer to strike the pillars? or what.

How is this carried out in simple layman terms

Thank you

It other name is Non destructive test (NDT)

Mr kola have explained the process
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Charisdesigns: 3:52pm On Oct 07, 2022
Rapunzel403:
Hello gurus on this educating thread, i want to seize this opportunity to thank you all for the well seasoned information I've gathered from here. We started our kobokobo project 2months ago and below are the pics of how far we have gone. It's a 5 room bungalow with penthouse as the current economy won't permit us own a duplex yet. �.
PS: the height of the foundation is 6coaches of blocks + the beam all round which makes it about 7coaches before German flooring. Please what is the pros and cons of this type of foundation. It's on a dry table and solid ground.
Oga Spyder
Oga Hajj
Oga twinskenny
Oga feigk
All other gurus
Please come Chuck mouth for this matter. Thanks

This kind of floor beam is usually introduced in a sloppy terrain, or where the foundation height needs to be high

The perceived advantage are

1) It connects all the column and make them act monolithically

2) Consider building a tall fence without providing an intermediate beam, it will crumble because of it unsupported height

3) when settlement occurs in the building, the connected beam makes the structure settle in unionism instead of settling differentially

4) with your already 6 foundation block and 10 extra going up, we will have a column height greater than 15ft, hence it (foundation /tie beam) will serve as a column breaker.

5) Also remember that tall foundation will mean more backfilling, hence more load acting on both the internal and external walls, therefore introducing the ground beam will provide more strength to the foundation.

See how we applied it in this project of ours

https://www.nairaland.com/6781323/construction-droyal-apartments-charisdesigns/1

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Coiner: 3:56pm On Oct 07, 2022
Ok.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 3:58pm On Oct 07, 2022
redgem:


Good afternoon Sir, please what will be the cost of screeding for 100sqm?
You may ask hamtabfawaz, bolu86 and the others that do screeding

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rapunzel403: 4:16pm On Oct 07, 2022
Thanks so much for your reply. Of course the backfilling is something we would never forget in a hurry we used about 25 double axel trips of red mud. We never saw it coming.
Charisdesigns:


This kind of floor beam is usually introduced in a sloppy terrain, or where the foundation height needs to be high

The perceived advantage are

1) It connects all the column and make them act monolithically

2) Consider building a tall fence without providing an intermediate beam, it will crumble because of it unsupported height

3) when settlement occurs in the building, the connected beam makes the structure settle in unionism instead of settling differentially

4) with your already 6 foundation block and 10 extra going up, we will have a column height greater than 15ft, hence it (foundation /tie beam) will serve as a column breaker.

5) Also remember that tall foundation will mean more backfilling, hence more load acting on both the internal and external walls, therefore introducing the ground beam will provide more strength to the foundation.

See how we applied it in this project of ours

https://www.nairaland.com/6781323/construction-droyal-apartments-charisdesigns/1

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 4:34pm On Oct 07, 2022
gbadexy:

You may ask hamtabfawaz, bolu86 and the others that do screeding

Oh... I totally forgot that it's the job of pop guys
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 4:44pm On Oct 07, 2022
redgem:


Oh... I totally forgot that it's the job of pop guys
Yes ma'am.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 6:03pm On Oct 07, 2022
3strikes:
Good Morning all,

This is not a bashing post!!!

I have been advised to seek professional opinions on this.
Please I will need experts and professionals in the house to please advise on best approach on how to tackle this.

Quick summary:
During casting these areas were not well supported and almost gave way. From the look of things, beam seems to be affected.

@hajivince could you please explain the solutions you have proffered so far. I want the professionals in the house to weigh in on this to see if any of these approaches will work.



How can we correct this at this point?

Here is the link to the thread https://www.nairaland.com/7015272/nigerian-house-plan-construction-4-units


Cc @aforxy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mystical888: 6:09pm On Oct 07, 2022
Hello House,
A standard plot of land in Ikorodu is available for sale.
It is fenced and has a gate.
Land size is 120 by 60 and it has a twin two bedroom structure on it and a block of 4 No's. shops in front of it
Also available is bore hole and store/generator house.
Asking price is N25 million only.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 6:56pm On Oct 07, 2022
Coiner:
Good day my people. Pls here is a quotation for windows. (4 bedroom bungalow with 31 windows)

Are the prices fair or can I negotiate for a better deal? Rock of Ages can you do this for less with same quality? 5' glass.

4 x 4=63k
3 x 3=55k
2 x 6=65k
2 x 4=58k
2 x 5=60k
3 x 4=60k
1ft x 4=40k
2 x 2=35k


Frameless with embedded burglary.

Totalling N1.6m as seen below..
I did't see what you send clearly please send the size and the quantity so that i will use it to calculate for you sir
Location of the site?
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 8:42pm On Oct 07, 2022
olukaygold:

MDF board is 12,500_13k while Hdf board is 25k_27k.Hdf board is stronger,more durable,more quality than Mdf board.Two board would finish a 3ft door. But the secret is,let a Pro handles the installations.

How much do you think an installer will charge??
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 9:29pm On Oct 07, 2022
They said this is Lagos

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 9:51pm On Oct 07, 2022
coldcandy:
They said this is Lagos

Hmmm likely to be Lagos island.. my concern is if there is an issue with roof how are they going to climb it for maintenance
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 10:32pm On Oct 07, 2022
coldcandy:
They said this is Lagos
Must be Obalende
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 10:33pm On Oct 07, 2022
coldcandy:
They said this is Lagos
Yes that lagos Island for you. Average cost of those tiny quarter plot of land much as 40millon if you fine one for sale. Average annual rent for those building one room apartment 400k, shop of single room size rent 600- 1millon depending on the area. Most renters pay up front before the structure is even build.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ngBuild: 10:34pm On Oct 07, 2022
topsy23:


Hmmm likely to be Lagos island.. my concern is if there is an issue with roof how are they going to climb it for maintenance
the same they way climbed it during construction.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gallybounce: 11:11pm On Oct 07, 2022
Lekan239:
Good morning sir. This is the quotation giving to me for the parapet

Quotation for parapet work:
*Total meters of the building =60mtrs(3000 per metre) Total price =180,000

*cement 30 bags= 4,300 per bag

*quarter rode 16 length= 1000 per length

*12 packets of tonaldo

*binding wire half rool 9,000

* Scalfold.

I don't know iron bender will still work. The iron bender man is saying 130k
I hope this is not coming late sir
Total square meters of mine is 62mtrs
I used 23 cements for the actual precast ( and I use 9 bags for final casting , the bricklayer did the final casting not the parapet guys . total of 32 bags ).
I used 20 quarter rode in total ( I bought 30)
I paid 3000 per mtrs X 62 mtrs = 186k

I bought 2by2( they cut am into pieces ). wey dem Dey use raise the parapet. I think 12k
I’ll say just find a random carpenter to handle the scaffolding, it will save you lots of time and stress. I paid 30k for everything including binding wire , nails and workmanship .

Iron bender doesn’t hVe anything to do with precast parapet , the masons will do their job , they will just cut it to size they want.

For precast parapet, I didn’t use any iron bender . Except you’re talking of concrete parapet .




mine is 62mtrs yours is 60mtrs , you can use my quotation to avoid unnecessary spending .


Also make sure you monitor them , cos if I was not there, almost 15 bags of cements and 10 quarters rose lengths would have gone ..

Check these pics sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gallybounce: 11:20pm On Oct 07, 2022
Hello everyone . Pls I’m about to do the window .

I have 17 windows in total , 4 Windows are for toilets while 13 are for the rooms and palors.
I’m going there tomorrow with an aluminum window guy , I want to use the one that comes with casement ( which includes burglary, net and window itself).
Pls can anyone help me with the rough estimate so I go know how to price am tomorrow.
How much per window ?

I also want to ask that , is it okay if I go for local welder double plated doors ( they said it doesn’t make sound and it’s strong ) or I should go for Turkish imported doors. One for the main entrance, one for kitchen exit and one for the private sitting room .

4ft and 3ftx2

Pls what’s the price range both for the welder and imported . The thing is I’m always busy and not always around so I want to use the very little time I have to kill two birds with a stone .

Thank you very much and may God bless each and everyone of us. Amen.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 12:13am On Oct 08, 2022
Gallybounce:
Hello everyone . Pls I’m about to do the window .

I have 17 windows in total , 4 Windows are for toilets while 13 are for the rooms and palors.
I’m going there tomorrow with an aluminum window guy , I want to use the one that comes with casement ( which includes burglary, net and window itself).
Pls can anyone help me with the rough estimate so I go know how to price am tomorrow.
How much per window ?

I also want to ask that , is it okay if I go for local welder double plated doors ( they said it doesn’t make sound and it’s strong ) or I should go for Turkish imported doors. One for the main entrance, one for kitchen exit and one for the private sitting room .

4ft and 3ftx2

Pls what’s the price range both for the welder and imported . The thing is I’m always busy and not always around so I want to use the very little time I have to kill two birds with a stone .

Thank you very much and may God bless each and everyone of us. Amen.
About the window, Casement window with burglary and net
For each window!
4 x 4-- 52k-55k
2 x 2-- 25k-30k
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by cash1115(m): 12:49am On Oct 08, 2022
Gallybounce:
Hello everyone . Pls I’m about to do the window .

I have 17 windows in total , 4 Windows are for toilets while 13 are for the rooms and palors.
I’m going there tomorrow with an aluminum window guy , I want to use the one that comes with casement ( which includes burglary, net and window itself).
Pls can anyone help me with the rough estimate so I go know how to price am tomorrow.
How much per window ?

I also want to ask that , is it okay if I go for local welder double plated doors ( they said it doesn’t make sound and it’s strong ) or I should go for Turkish imported doors. One for the main entrance, one for kitchen exit and one for the private sitting room .

4ft and 3ftx2

Pls what’s the price range both for the welder and imported . The thing is I’m always busy and not always around so I want to use the very little time I have to kill two birds with a stone .

Thank you very much and may God bless each and everyone of us. Amen.
boss give us your pop we will surely give you the best, try us you won’t regret you did
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Lekan239(m): 2:49am On Oct 08, 2022
Gallybounce:
I hope this is not coming late sir
Total square meters of mine is 62mtrs
I used 23 cements for the actual precast ( and I use 9 bags for final casting , the bricklayer did the final casting not the parapet guys . total of 32 bags ).
I used 20 quarter rode in total ( I bought 30)
I paid 3000 per mtrs X 62 mtrs = 186k

I bought 2by2( they cut am into pieces ). wey dem Dey use raise the parapet. I think 12k
I’ll say just find a random carpenter to handle the scaffolding, it will save you lots of time and stress. I paid 30k for everything including binding wire , nails and workmanship .

Iron bender doesn’t hVe anything to do with precast parapet , the masons will do their job , they will just cut it to size they want.

For precast parapet, I didn’t use any iron bender . Except you’re talking of concrete parapet .




mine is 62mtrs yours is 60mtrs , you can use my quotation to avoid unnecessary spending .


Also make sure you monitor them , cos if I was not there, almost 15 bags of cements and 10 quarters rose lengths would have gone ..

Check these pics sir
thank you for the reply sir. We used about same number of cement here and 25quarter rod for 65 sq metres. The precast guy said 3,500 per metres, but I insist on 3000 per metres

Spent about 120k on rod and iron bender workmanship. I didn't know iron bender is not needed
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 4:21am On Oct 08, 2022
redgem:


How much do you think an installer will charge??
Depending on location and number of doors. but highest 10k per door.cos he won't do the installations at once cos he'd firstly install the skeleton frame in-between the entrance wall then fill it up with mortal cement after three days when the mortal dries,he can now do the installations.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gallybounce: 7:46am On Oct 08, 2022
Lekan239:
thank you for the reply sir. We used about same number of cement here and 25quarter rod for 65 sq metres. The precast guy said 3,500 per metres, but I insist on 3000 per metres

Spent about 120k on rod and iron bender workmanship. I didn't know iron bender is not needed
ok sir. Glory be to God
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 7:47am On Oct 08, 2022
topsy23:


The inverter equipment can be under the stairs but extractor fan must be provided to extract the battery fumes out.

I am quoting this to help property owners and inverter sellers remember that you need to install extractor fans if you run an inverter in your home.

Your quotation for setting up an inverter is not complete without this.

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