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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Philipok: 5:40pm On Oct 10, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 5:53pm On Oct 10, 2022
MrDraey:
We agreed for 10k everything (2bed, kitchen, sitting room n dinning - he was the guy that did my roofing)

I am just weak....eh... When I thought after buying the materials, expenses will reduce.. I don't even know who else to call

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by basketballseek: 5:56pm On Oct 10, 2022
A stain is the go-to method for most fence finishes. While the initial investment cost is higher for stains than it is for paint, stains last much longer and require very little maintenance down the road. Your costs will be lower in the long run, because you won't need to restain your fence nearly as often. Can you do Fence Staining Rome Ga? I need quick service.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 6:13pm On Oct 10, 2022
kopell:
YES Ooo my brother, the Engineer will spell out everything needed in contract including paint Buckets including line's. They are all yours when they finish. One thing that always leads to argument in contracting job out is inflate the materials needed, even after bringing the materials to your site when the job is done many of them will claim the reaming materials are theirs and will like to take them when they are done. I don't understand that ooo. I think we should have a debate on this issue in order to have better understanding.


If you buy all materials yourself, the workers has no right to take it away from site. once their job is completed, & payment has been received they're to leave the site.
Absolutely No right!

It can only happen, if it's a contract job, where the worker buys all materials.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 6:19pm On Oct 10, 2022
bobkezel:


Is casting board a component of the pop ceiling or is it a working tool of the pop worker?
If it is a component then the client should buy it, but if it is working tool then the pop guy should have it standby.

As electrician, if I decide to buy the wiring materials will you include your working tools (meter, screw drivers, testers etc) in the list of things I should buy?

It is the former! Case resolved.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dannie007(m): 6:36pm On Oct 10, 2022
Will give you a full HDF Flush door with Lock and Installation for N115,000 Best Price.

Location please




waley007:
how much are this doors
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 6:46pm On Oct 10, 2022
redgem:


How much to pay carpenter for scaffolding? This carpenter is requesting 4500 and he said that he will do 7 scaffolds for 3 rooms... Basically he wants to charge 31,500. Bolu1986 and hamtabfawaz is there no way to create scaffolds that can be moveable?

it's very possible to create movable scaffold, I use movable scaffold for most of my projects!
Negotiate with him, he can still reduce price.

PS: Make Sure your pop guys are there before he creates the scaffold, so they can explain the heights they want.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 6:53pm On Oct 10, 2022
MrDraey:
He said there will be increment in coming days, he blamed the rise mostly on the flood. Star gips was 7,800 last

Just like I posted days ago! Info I got from a reliable Source that price would increase on 15th of this month.

The increase is Frustrating.
They keep blaming the dollars unnecessarily.


The best is just buy & keep properly!.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Person2person(m): 6:56pm On Oct 10, 2022
On POP...

When the pop guyz charge you for materials and workmanship inclusive, the client will provide scalfold only. If there is any left over materials in this case, it belongs to the workers...

When the client buy all materials, the client will need to provide some tools too...if there is any left over materials in this case, its for the client.

Why do pop guyz ask for tools from client

Cost of transportation of tools to site considering the size of the tools and price persqm for labour only.

I suggest, they should add cost of transportation of tools to and from site for clients that provide materials.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 6:58pm On Oct 10, 2022
redgem:


I am just weak....eh... When I thought after buying the materials, expenses will reduce.. I don't even know who else to call

Negotiate with him! He can still reduce the Price!

Or ask your pop guys, if they can make the scaffold, (if they can) they won't charge you that much, after you provide them with woods!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 7:25pm On Oct 10, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Negotiate with him! He can still reduce the Price!

Or ask your pop guys, if they can make the scaffold, (if they can) they won't charge you that much, after you provide them with woods!

They said that he refused to reduce price... Pop guy was even angry because they were supposed to start work today but didn't because of the carpenter...he even complained that the price was way too much. I have bought planks, nails and 2by2, it is just to create scaffold. I have left it for the pop guy to get a carpenter
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 7:28pm On Oct 10, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


it's very possible to create movable scaffold, I use movable scaffold for most of my projects!
Negotiate with him, he can still reduce price.

PS: Make Sure your pop guys are there before he creates the scaffold, so they can explain the heights they want.


Please do you have pictures of the movable scaffold?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Philipok: 7:38pm On Oct 10, 2022
Nawao but since all my days in building industry,I av never heard of pop making roof to leak due to heaviness, unless such roof is been constructed with substandard materials.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 7:39pm On Oct 10, 2022
Aforxzy:
Sorry but I don't understand what your engineer said he's going to do so I can't comment on it.

I believe you are building terrace apartments and would love that they have the same features. Since your engineer has confirmed that the problem isn't structural, here's what I'll do.

I will break off the circled portion completely, straighten the rebars and put the formwork back with an additional stiffener at Y. Make sure the props are sufficient enough to support the load then recast.



What about instead introduce a Rolling Steel Joist (RSJ) beam underneath the bow? What is your take? This will save a lot of cracking and cranking the already compromised beam.

This could be a better option. Highly effective and save buying props, cracking, time and all that manual labour of trying to straighten the beam.

What do you think?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 7:50pm On Oct 10, 2022
It's a good option but costlier..but how about the finishing. You can't plaster over it .


diordaves:


What about instead introduce a Rolling Steel Joist (RSJ) beam underneath the bow? What is your take? This will save a lot of cracking and cranking the already compromised beam.

This could be a better option. Highly effective and save buying props, cracking, time and all that manual labour of trying to straighten the beam.

What do you think?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 7:53pm On Oct 10, 2022
Philipok:
Nawao but since all my days in building industry,I av never heard of pop making roof to leak due to heaviness, unless such roof is been constructed with substandard materials.
that doesn't make it impossible
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 8:10pm On Oct 10, 2022
Rotecch…. I still await your defence on the allegations made against you

I know you were not happy when I insisted about bringing other Nairalanders as artisans/subcontractors to join you on site, to work on their specialisation. I did that because I was not comfortable of u handling jobs like POP, electricals, plumbing , tiling etc outside your scope and what we agreed on was carcass delivery NOT finishing

Thank God, I insisted other workers needed to come in, if not your incompetency would not have been discovered early for correction… u will just be covering it all until it turns to disaster

I even compensated him by offering him a role to be a paid site supervisor, which he considered but started giving me rules and regulations that he has to control and direct all the works of the subcontractors…. And I said NO ….. u can not control their works because they are more knowledgeable/skilful in what they do but U should work along with them and point out to them if they are not following client specifications

…. because of the above, he refused the job and he started misbehaving afterwards…. Of course, I do not care …. I am the client, I do what is best for me …… am not begging him for work/fund/money …… but whatever need correction in the carcass/works he did must be corrected…. And not blame it on other artisans because he felt they took their jobs .

We never agreed u will handle my finishing for me so stop hating other NL artisans/subcontractors


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 8:17pm On Oct 10, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


It is the former! Case resolved.
I don't really know what a casting board is sha.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:23pm On Oct 10, 2022
bobkezel:

@twinskenny hope you see it now.....
Like I said before, you know the truth....

Nothing to see chief… but I have moved on
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:45pm On Oct 10, 2022
redgem:


Please do you have pictures of the movable scaffold?

Don't have a proper pic of it!

Hope this helps!
An horse like scaffold .

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 9:52pm On Oct 10, 2022
Aforxzy:
It's a good option but costlier..but how about the finishing. You can't plaster over it .



Isn't there other ways to cover it!

cc @diordaves
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:57pm On Oct 10, 2022
Good evening to all members here.
First of foremost I will like mr Akinola ( my cleint ) to define what is fraudulent. If he can’t, then a well learned person should help him out.

Let’s go straight to the matter.
Few months back he called me to complain about the roof we did that it’s leaking, I quickly called my roofer and Carpenter to move to site to check.
Here is what they met.
1 A small leakage at passage ( caused by a plank which looks bend) immediately this was changed and the leakage stoped till this moment.

2. A leakage in wall is edges area caused by the nature of the flat roof he know this that it usually occurred on flat roof which I have told him from beginning that suck area do need . Felt, tiles or aluminum which said he know and there is plan to tiled the area. ( that is not a leakage roof issue)

Another day he called again that there is a leakage again but serous one after heavy rain.quickly my men rush to site to check but it was discovered that the said area is WATER TANK AREA
I said ok I message him immediately that the tank area needs to be covered back and move the tank downward. ( actually I advised him to let’s place tank there before but due the flat roof section the tank was placed it didn’t work out)
To my surprise my cleint said I’m the one to foot the bill which cost about 100k plus to covered the tank area. I did it all in name of reputation and member on Nairaland … sisi he didn’t pay ..

Rotech the good fool man trying to pleased human being.( I called my sef fool here)

Fast forward to another 2-3 weeks again another message of leakage.. GOD why naa
My men rush down to site again BUT this time around it’s the Entrance posh … thank God the site supervisor and some workers are there and everyone saw it clearly that the Window design guys and some workers he engaged messed up with the roof of this verander porch ( bcs the place is not leaking since day one, until this men work there .. they messed up with the roof .. BUT guest WHAT my cleint said I should do it free again I said NEVER I will not do it but at the end of the day
… ( Rotech come again with his idea to please human being foolish me again)
I did it ooo my cleint did pay penny for it.. another ABOUt 30k again.
Going to 200k spent on what I don’t collect money for plus my old balance still with him which is 250k going to 450k now

Lastly
Before this time there was a day we argue about additional work which I said I will not do he started calling me a STUPID MAN not only once oo until I warned him use such language for me.
And I told him I will not do the said additional work but at the end of the day I still do it oo NO ADDITIONAL FEE . Then when I said he will go to nairaland I told him what he want he said I should do it works free ok I did it I move on ( he claimed I beg him here not to go to nairaland .. mr Akinola post your prove here where I beg yo.)

See at time if vendor or contractor try to settle matter amicably it’s not bcs the said person is timid oo … so get that straight to your head.

Since the last time we did this area, that is about 3weeks now nobody called to complains

Lastly this last Friday he called again roof again… what happens again … God this man will not kill me with what I don’t know about.
Well o told him my roofer will show up on Monday, today .. boom by 7:30 my roofer was on site , he did the checking on the said area he discovered that the tiler he gave work ( the cleint l) have messed up with the roof while tiling the parapet inner section.
Immediately he send me pics and video amd I called his supervisor to come over to see it but the man was too far to the site at that time. But sent him the pics and video amd he see it clearly that the cause it not from our end.
More so my roofer spoke with the pop guy( we know this guy in one of site in Benin we worked with the pop contractor) he tell my roofer that he told his oga that the design the cleint choose for those upper roof is too heave which can cause damage to the plank now or later but he said his oga look for another person to do the design and he only focused on another work there …. To him such heavy designs is good where the prop is steel.
This also has a little effect on the roof but not major as that of the messed up area by the TILER’s

Check for some pics where the workers the cleint hire messed up with the roof which caused the leakage

When I told him that I will never do it this time around he rush down here to complain

Make una help me out ooo

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:59pm On Oct 10, 2022
Here the evidence of the serious messed up his people did at site

Diff time and at diff portion

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Itsrm(m): 11:06pm On Oct 10, 2022
rotecch77:
Good evening to all members here.
First of foremost I will like mr Akinola ( my cleint ) to define what is fraudulent. If he can’t, then a well learned person should help him out.

Let’s go straight to the matter.
Few months back he called me to complain about the roof we did that it’s leaking, I quickly called my roofer and Carpenter to move to site to check.
Here is what they met.
1 A small leakage at passage ( caused by a plank which looks bend) immediately this was changed and the leakage stoped till this moment.

2. A leakage in wall is edges area caused by the nature of the flat roof he know this that it usually occurred on flat roof which I have told him from beginning that suck area do need . Felt, tiles or aluminum which said he know and there is plan to tiled the area. ( that is not a leakage roof issue)

Another day he called again that there is a leakage again but serous one after heavy rain.quickly my men rush to site to check but it was discovered that the said area is WATER TANK AREA
I said ok I message him immediately that the tank area needs to be covered back and move the tank downward. ( actually I advised him to let’s place tank there before but due the flat roof section the tank was placed it didn’t work out)
To my surprise my cleint said I’m the one to foot the bill which cost about 100k plus to covered the tank area. I did it all in name of reputation and member on Nairaland … sisi he didn’t pay ..

Rotech the good fool man trying to pleased human being.( I called my sef fool here)

Fast forward to another 2-3 weeks again another message of leakage.. GOD why naa
My men rush down to site again BUT this time around it’s the Entrance posh … thank God the site supervisor and some workers are there and everyone saw it clearly that the Window design guys and some workers he engaged messed up with the roof of this verander porch ( bcs the place is not leaking since day one, until this men work there .. they messed up with the roof .. BUT guest WHAT my cleint said I should do it free again I said NEVER I will not do it but at the end of the day
… ( Rotech come again with his idea to please human being foolish me again)
I did it ooo my cleint did pay penny for it.. another ABOUt 30k again.
Going to 200k spent on what I don’t collect money for plus my old balance still with him which is 250k going to 450k now

Lastly
Before this time there was a day we argue about additional work which I said I will not do he started calling me a STUPID MAN not only once oo until I warned him use such language for me.
And I told him I will not do the said additional work but at the end of the day I still do it oo NO ADDITIONAL FEE . Then when I said he will go to nairaland I told him what he want he said I should do it works free ok I did it I move on ( he claimed I beg him here not to go to nairaland .. mr Akinola post your prove here where I beg yo.)

See at time if vendor or contractor try to settle matter amicably it’s not bcs the said person is timid oo … so get that straight to your head.

Since the last time we did this area, that is about 3weeks now nobody called to complains

Lastly this last Friday he called again roof again… what happens again … God this man will not kill me with what I don’t know about.
Well o told him my roofer will show up on Monday, today .. boom by 7:30 my roofer was on site , he did the checking on the said area he discovered that the tiler he gave work ( the cleint l) have messed up with the roof while tiling the parapet inner section.
Immediately he send me pics and video amd I called his supervisor to come over to see it but the man was too far to the site at that time. But sent him the pics and video amd he see it clearly that the cause it not from our end.
More so my roofer spoke with the pop guy( we know this guy in one of site in Benin we worked with the pop contractor) he tell my roofer that he told his oga that the design the cleint choose for those upper roof is too heave which can cause damage to the plank now or later but he said his oga look for another person to do the design and he only focused on another work there …. To him such heavy designs is good where the prop is steel.
This also has a little effect on the roof but not major as that of the messed up area by the TILER’s

Check for some pics where the workers the cleint hire messed up with the roof which caused the leakage

When I told him that I will never do it this time around he rush down here to complain

Make una help me out ooo

Does this even make any sense to you?

You advised him to place the tank on the roof and still expect him to pay for your own mistakes? If he knew it all, why would he have engaged you in the first place.

You also said there was a leakage at the edge of the roof due to the nature of the flat roof. I have seen quite a number of flat roofs without this leakage. Why is this different?

You said his tiler damaged the roof but you didn't mention you were the one who told him to use his tiler despite him initially insisting you send yours to the site.

I even thought you had something reasonable to post with the way you were mouthing off earlier.

When will artisans learn to take responsibility for their actions? See how you're sounding like you did him a favour using your money to rectify a shoddy job you initially did.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 11:22pm On Oct 10, 2022
rotecch77:
Good evening to all members here.
First of foremost I will like mr Akinola ( my cleint ) to define what is fraudulent. If he can’t, then a well learned person should help him out.

Let’s go straight to the matter.
Few months back he called me to complain about the roof we did that it’s leaking, I quickly called my roofer and Carpenter to move to site to check.
Here is what they met.
1 A small leakage at passage ( caused by a plank which looks bend) immediately this was changed and the leakage stoped till this moment.

2. A leakage in wall is edges area caused by the nature of the flat roof he know this that it usually occurred on flat roof which I have told him from beginning that suck area do need . Felt, tiles or aluminum which said he know and there is plan to tiled the area. ( that is not a leakage roof issue)

Another day he called again that there is a leakage again but serous one after heavy rain.quickly my men rush to site to check but it was discovered that the said area is WATER TANK AREA
I said ok I message him immediately that the tank area needs to be covered back and move the tank downward. ( actually I advised him to let’s place tank there before but due the flat roof section the tank was placed it didn’t work out)
To my surprise my cleint said I’m the one to foot the bill which cost about 100k plus to covered the tank area. I did it all in name of reputation and member on Nairaland … sisi he didn’t pay ..

Rotech the good fool man trying to pleased human being.( I called my sef fool here)

Fast forward to another 2-3 weeks again another message of leakage.. GOD why naa
My men rush down to site again BUT this time around it’s the Entrance posh … thank God the site supervisor and some workers are there and everyone saw it clearly that the Window design guys and some workers he engaged messed up with the roof of this verander porch ( bcs the place is not leaking since day one, until this men work there .. they messed up with the roof .. BUT guest WHAT my cleint said I should do it free again I said NEVER I will not do it but at the end of the day
… ( Rotech come again with his idea to please human being foolish me again)
I did it ooo my cleint did pay penny for it.. another ABOUt 30k again.
Going to 200k spent on what I don’t collect money for plus my old balance still with him which is 250k going to 450k now

Lastly
Before this time there was a day we argue about additional work which I said I will not do he started calling me a STUPID MAN not only once oo until I warned him use such language for me.
And I told him I will not do the said additional work but at the end of the day I still do it oo NO ADDITIONAL FEE . Then when I said he will go to nairaland I told him what he want he said I should do it works free ok I did it I move on ( he claimed I beg him here not to go to nairaland .. mr Akinola post your prove here where I beg yo.)

See at time if vendor or contractor try to settle matter amicably it’s not bcs the said person is timid oo … so get that straight to your head.

Since the last time we did this area, that is about 3weeks now nobody called to complains

Lastly this last Friday he called again roof again… what happens again … God this man will not kill me with what I don’t know about.
Well o told him my roofer will show up on Monday, today .. boom by 7:30 my roofer was on site , he did the checking on the said area he discovered that the tiler he gave work ( the cleint l) have messed up with the roof while tiling the parapet inner section.
Immediately he send me pics and video amd I called his supervisor to come over to see it but the man was too far to the site at that time. But sent him the pics and video amd he see it clearly that the cause it not from our end.
More so my roofer spoke with the pop guy( we know this guy in one of site in Benin we worked with the pop contractor) he tell my roofer that he told his oga that the design the cleint choose for those upper roof is too heave which can cause damage to the plank now or later but he said his oga look for another person to do the design and he only focused on another work there …. To him such heavy designs is good where the prop is steel.
This also has a little effect on the roof but not major as that of the messed up area by the TILER’s

Check for some pics where the workers the cleint hire messed up with the roof which caused the leakage

When I told him that I will never do it this time around he rush down here to complain

Make una help me out ooo

I like to do my work quietly and move on.. but you keep mentioning pop design destroy the roof.. well i dont know how... we have done that design in several places with no issues... from day one boss your roofer did a bad job. do you know i personally bought a bunch of 2x2 to correct the nogging your guys did? come on bro, this just to move on and to avoid argument cause from day one you said we dont know what we are doing... ..

good luck sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 11:36pm On Oct 10, 2022
bolu1986:


I like to do my work quietly and move on.. but you keep mentioning pop design destroy the roof.. well i dont know how... we have done that design in several places with no issues... from day one boss your roofer did a bad job. do you know i personally bought a bunch of 2x2 to correct the nogging your guys did? come on bro, this just to move on and to avoid argument cause from day one you said we dont know what we are doing... ..

good luck sir.

BOLU i don’t need to argue with you here, but it’s a lie that your people you engage told you not to do such design in such area ?
More so you said the 2*2 is not enough for you In 2 or 3 places wish I was on site my self and I bought another 60pcs of the said 2*2 to give you more enough hanger to hang your pop.
Look I don’t need to say much about yours
But I will advise you also not to do much heavy designs in the remaining place.

Same roofer and same Carpenter did the Benin work you just finished the pop .
So I don’t have much issue with you here but only advise to let your client know about such heavy designs it’s only good where steel was used.

Tiler did most bad work here that lead to the roof leakage as I posted there

Enjoy your work With peace

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 12:01am On Oct 11, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Don't have a proper pic of it!

Hope this helps!
An horse like scaffold .

It's not clear to me... I'd send it to him to see if he understands it.. Thank you so much �� God bless you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:26am On Oct 11, 2022
Aforxzy:
It's a good option but costlier..but how about the finishing. You can't plaster over it .


at this point, I don't think plastering is important
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 4:42am On Oct 11, 2022

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