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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:03am On Oct 15, 2022
KolaShangOne:


How much are they? Do we have to screed the wall before applying it?
And do we have to still paint it after applying?
Good morning chief engineer,
Graffitex is N16000 and it covers 6/8 sqm per drum.
The wall does not need to be screeded before application. It comes in different colors too and doesn't need painting but varnish could be applied on it to give it a shiny effect.
I've been asked severally online and offline if it could be applied on an unplastered wall and an idea just occurred to me that it would be possible if the blocks are primed with good quality paint.
This would help to make the surface of the blocks less porous, bind the loose particles and form a surface that would allow smooth application without wasting the graffitex.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 7:03am On Oct 15, 2022
KolaShangOne:


Oga Abdul, your 1,2.5,3.5 gives you M25 grade concrete.. That's 1 cement to 5 sand to 7 aggregates.. Do you use additives? Or could it be the 42.5R cement? Or the size of the aggregates?

I know it's 1.1.2. that's guaranteed to give M25..

I use 1,3,4.5 for my bungalows.. I get up to 18 -20N/mm² after 28days..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 7:07am On Oct 15, 2022
gbadexy:

I haven't seen it used inside sir. It has rough texture.

Thank you sir.
So is there any paint to use against the wall damping, like the picture below
Slimszy:
Hi guys, I am currently facing an issue of water damp in my building. It's so frustrating.

I have broken the plaster about 2 feet above the ground in the interior, and it has risen to the upper part within 2 months, causing the screeded wall to peel off. I am completely tired of maintaining and maintaining a new house.

I need your advice please.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 7:08am On Oct 15, 2022
gbadexy:

Good morning chief engineer,
Graffitex is N16000 and it covers 6/8 sqm per drum.
The wall does not need to be screeded before application. It comes in different colors too and doesn't need painting but varnish could be applied on it to give it a shiny effect.
I've been asked severally online and offline if it could be applied on an unplastered wall and an idea just occurred to me that it would be possible if the blocks are primed with good quality paint.
This would help to make the surface of the blocks less porous, bind the loose particles and form a surface that would allow smooth application without wasting the graffitex.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 7:10am On Oct 15, 2022
She's here on nairalander
All vendor watchout do your proper deligence before sealing deal with some of those in diapora, most of them are nothing but Apani lekun ja ye,Ripper,Scammer
Her full name is Omowunmi Allen Omotayo

A serial Fraudster On Nairaland

So sure you are seeing this if you refuse to pay back my 2m+ the remaining yr to used on earth you will not know peace Unless you pay back my Money

OLD FOOL

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:16am On Oct 15, 2022
oduncojamaica:

Thank you sir.
So is there any paint to use against the wall damping, like the picture below
There is an undercoat but it is only a palliative and not the total solution.
It would seal off the wall but water would still manifest elsewhere with weaker path of resistance.
The undercoat would also have to be applied very high otherwise the water could rise high above the coat to manifest.
Nothing beats preparation at the building stage like the experts mentioned or look for the source if it's leaking pipe or from joints in bathroom tiles adjacent and fix it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 7:22am On Oct 15, 2022
gbadexy:

There is a undercoat but it is only a palliative and not the total solution.
It would seal off the wall but water would still manifest elsewhere with weaker path of resistance.
The undercoat would also have to be applied very high otherwise the water could rise high above the coat to manifest.
Nothing beats preparation at the building stage like the experts mentioned or look for the source if it's leaking pipe or from joints in bathroom tiles adjacent and fix it.


Thank you sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 7:32am On Oct 15, 2022
KolaShangOne:


How much are they? Do we have to screed the wall before applying it?
And do we have to still paint it after applying?

Thanks for these questions...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 7:32am On Oct 15, 2022
gbadexy:

You may use premium grade emulsion sir.
It's durable for external use also it just doesn't have the low sheen or cleanability like the matte.


The premium emulsion or matte if slight sheen is desired.
Matte: N28000
Premium emulsion: N16000
Satin: N35000
Silk: N45000
The previous price included cost for logistics and equipment cost for application during the promo period.
I sent you message on your WhatsApp sir. Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:37am On Oct 15, 2022
MrOkenwa:

I sent you message on your WhatsApp sir. Thank you
Received sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 7:37am On Oct 15, 2022
gbadexy:

Good morning chief engineer,
Graffitex is N16000 and it covers 6/8 sqm per drum.
The wall does not need to be screeded before application. It comes in different colors too and doesn't need painting but varnish could be applied on it to give it a shiny effect.
I've been asked severally online and offline if it could be applied on an unplastered wall and an idea just occurred to me that it would be possible if the blocks are primed with good quality paint.
This would help to make the surface of the blocks less porous, bind the loose particles and form a surface that would allow smooth application without wasting the graffitex.

Will save this here cos I am considering using graffitex...thanks for the response, God bless you...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:37am On Oct 15, 2022
redgem:


Will save this here cos I am considering using graffitex...thanks for the response, God bless you...
And you too ma'am. Thanks very much.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 7:47am On Oct 15, 2022
money121:

Don't worry your engr. Av reachout to us
But he want my installer to come and retake the measurement both of them agree to meet at site tomorrow
Thanks God bless you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 8:34am On Oct 15, 2022
Slimszy:
Hi guys, I am currently facing an issue of water damp in my building. It's so frustrating.

I have broken the plaster about 2 feet above the ground in the interior, and it has risen to the upper part within 2 months, causing the screeded wall to peel off. I am completely tired of maintaining and maintaining a new house.

I need your advice please.

The second picture is of an interior wall whose other side is an exterior wall. Right?

The first picture is clearly an interior wall but I cannot determine what is on the other side. A bathroom maybe? Please clarify.

Sorry that you are facing the consequences of building practices that are more concerned with aesthetics than building longevity and the health and safety of residents.

Last question is this apartment rented or owned? This question will determine what to recommend as not everyone is inclined to repair a house for a landlord or for the next tenant even if their health and safety is at stake.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 9:00am On Oct 15, 2022
money121:
She's here on nairalander
All vendor watchout do your proper deligence before sealing deal with some of those in diapora, most of them are nothing but Apani lekun ja ye,Ripper,Scammer
Her full name is Omowunmi Allen Omotayo

A serial Fraudster On Nairaland

So sure you are seeing this if you refuse to pay back my 2m+ the remaining yr to used on earth you will not know peace Unless you pay back my Money

OLD FOOL

Maybe you need to go back to her site and see the level of work .. if you cause some nuisance to the people working there and people around there see embarrassment you are causing. She might be force to pay part of the money
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IBOMPROPERTIES: 9:30am On Oct 15, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by CivilEngineer90: 10:03am On Oct 15, 2022
money121:
She's here on nairalander
All vendor watchout do your proper deligence before sealing deal with some of those in diapora, most of them are nothing but Apani lekun ja ye,Ripper,Scammer
Her full name is Omowunmi Allen Omotayo

A serial Fraudster On Nairaland

So sure you are seeing this if you refuse to pay back my 2m+ the remaining yr to used on earth you will not know peace Unless you pay back my Money

OLD FOOL
doesn't mean women who drive highlander like to rip grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 10:21am On Oct 15, 2022
Hello everyone, Las las @ Akinola88 Vs Rotech77 (or we say 88vs77) has been partially solved so to say and this thread can return to learning status.

Can we kindly share lessons learnt from this event ranging from moral, technicality and finance

Lesson learnt by me

1. Lowest qoute is not always the best atimes. Client should engage cost expert such as QS, project manager for cost analysis to determine the best qoute that will help in smooth project delivery

2. Engineers/contractors should not be greedy by intentionally luring client to give you Job by qouting low, with the intention of coming back to plead for more fund or delivering poor structure.

3. A third eye as Quality control and Assurance can be engaged to avoid stories that touch after some few years of delivery, note that houses are built to last for at least 70 years, even at 70yrs the house can still live longer far beyond with minimal retrofitting.

4. Liking or falling for beautiful pictures is not enough for contractors selection, get references from both online and offline of your choice contractor, physical visit to ongoing and past projects as well is a plus. Choose wisely.

5. Tiling parapet wall of a flat roof is not the best solution, rathe cladding with aluminum flat sheet is the best. Tilers or masons don't know how to walk on roof so obviously they would do damage to the roof, meanwhile the cement and aluminum sheet don't bond, it is a matter of one season leakages is inevitable.

Kindly add yours and @77 and @88 can as well share their personal lesson learnt.

Thank you all.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 10:25am On Oct 15, 2022
gbadexy:

Good morning chief engineer,
Graffitex is N16000 and it covers 6/8 sqm per drum.
The wall does not need to be screeded before application. It comes in different colors too and doesn't need painting but varnish could be applied on it to give it a shiny effect.
I've been asked severally online and offline if it could be applied on an unplastered wall and an idea just occurred to me that it would be possible if the blocks are primed with good quality paint.
This would help to make the surface of the blocks less porous, bind the loose particles and form a surface that would allow smooth application without wasting the graffitex.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:00am On Oct 15, 2022
Aventures:
Hello everyone, Las las @ Akinola88 Vs Rotech77 (or we say 88vs77) has been partially solved so to say and this thread can return to learning status.

Can we kindly share lessons learnt from this event ranging from moral, technicality and finance

Lesson learnt by me

1. Lowest qoute is not always the best atimes. Client should engage cost expert such as QS, project manager for cost analysis to determine the best qoute that will help in smooth project delivery

2. Engineers/contractors should not be greedy by intentionally luring client to give you Job by qouting low, with the intention of coming back to plead for more fund or delivering poor structure.

3. A third eye as Quality control and Assurance can be engaged to avoid stories that touch after some few years of delivery, note that houses are built to last for at least 70 years, even at 70yrs the house can still live longer far beyond with minimal retrofitting.

4. Liking or falling for beautiful pictures is not enough for contractors selection, get references from both online and offline of your choice contractor, physical visit to ongoing and past projects as well is a plus. Choose wisely.

5. Tiling parapet wall of a flat roof is not the best solution, rathe cladding with aluminum flat sheet is the best. Tilers or masons don't know how to walk on roof so obviously they would do damage to the roof, meanwhile the cement and aluminum sheet don't bond, it is a matter of one season leakages is inevitable.

Kindly add yours and @77 and @88 can as well share their personal lesson learnt.

Thank you all.

All these are excellent points coming from years of Engineering and construction experience.

1. I would say, surely that QS should do the take-off and allow the contractors to put the rate. A mechanism can be put in place to verify that the items are delivered based on the specifications. For example, Concrete grade can be verified by cube tests, block strengths, steel strength,
etc can be very by material testing.

2. I think there is no way to solve this problem of contractor greed. Also, I've observed that people-trained engineers are more aware of the actions of cutting corners and not really building according to building codes. I'm not saying this because I'm an engineer or biased towards the civil/structural engineering profession. Also, I'll advise that when you can't hire a civil/structural engineer to build your structural frames/Carcass for any building over a bungalow you should hire them as a consultant.

3. Quality control is one of the most important parts of construction. For example, the difference between M15 and M25 can be a lack of monitoring and poor quality control. too much water in like half a bucket can weaken concrete by more than 50%. A lack of vibration may render it very weak that which will allow the rebar to corrode etc. I would put that durability is as important as the strength of the concrete. Quality control requires that you have an expert on-site to make sure that materials meet specifications and that construction is done based on guidelines.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by IBOMPROPERTIES: 11:02am On Oct 15, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 11:13am On Oct 15, 2022
abdulwastecx:


All these are excellent points coming from years of Engineering and construction experience.

1. I would say, surely that QS should do the take-off and allow the contractors to put the rate. A mechanism can be put in place to verify that the items are delivered based on the specifications. For example, Concrete grade can be verified by cube tests, block strengths, steel strength,
etc can be very by material testing.

2. I think there is no way to solve this problem of contractor greed. Also, I've observed that people-trained engineers are more aware of the actions of cutting corners and not really building according to building codes. I'm not saying this because I'm an engineer or biased towards the civil/structural engineering profession. Also, I'll advise that when you can't hire a civil/structural engineer to build your structural frames/Carcass for any building over a bungalow you should hire them as a consultant.

3. Quality control is one of the most important parts of construction. For example, the difference between M15 and M25 can be a lack of monitoring and poor quality control. too much water in like half a bucket can weaken concrete by more than 50%. A lack of vibration may render it very weak that which will allow the rebar to corrode etc. I would put that durability is as important as the strength of the concrete. Quality control requires that you have an expert on-site to make sure that materials meet specifications and that construction is done based on guidelines.


Beautiful chief, reading your makes me feel like I am back to class. You are one of the classy engineer I doff my hat for .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Lekan239(m): 11:28am On Oct 15, 2022
Adeyemi0:

I am surprised too, I'm on the similar project and it will cost upto 7m after roofing though with German floor and septics.
.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aventures(m): 11:30am On Oct 15, 2022
Aventures:
Hello everyone, Las las @ Akinola88 Vs Rotech77 (or we say 88vs77) has been partially solved so to say and this thread can return to learning status.

Can we kindly share lessons learnt from this event ranging from moral, technicality and finance

Lesson learnt by me

1. Lowest qoute is not always the best atimes. Client should engage cost expert such as QS, project manager for cost analysis to determine the best qoute that will help in smooth project delivery

2. Engineers/contractors should not be greedy by intentionally luring client to give you Job by qouting low, with the intention of coming back to plead for more fund or delivering poor structure.

3. A third eye as Quality control and Assurance can be engaged to avoid stories that touch after some few years of delivery, note that houses are built to last for at least 70 years, even at 70yrs the house can still live longer far beyond with minimal retrofitting.

4. Liking or falling for beautiful pictures is not enough for contractors selection, get references from both online and offline of your choice contractor, physical visit to ongoing and past projects as well is a plus. Choose wisely.

5. Tiling parapet wall of a flat roof is not the best solution, rathe cladding with aluminum flat sheet is the best. Tilers or masons don't know how to walk on roof so obviously they would do damage to the roof, meanwhile the cement and aluminum sheet don't bond, it is a matter of one season leakages is inevitable.

Kindly add yours and @77 and @88 can as well share their personal lesson learnt.

Thank you all.
In addition, in a process whereby clients wants to choose his sub contractors for stuff like POP, Electrical, Tiling, Smart home fittings, Aluminum should not be a problem to any contractor at all. But I will advice a synergy from planning stage. That is the client should choose his preferred sub contractors and carried them along from the beginning, review the plans together along with the designers and main contractors, draw out approved specifications for each trade and note all the sub contractors should be supervised by the main contractors at a reasonable fee. The reason behind this is to avoid blame shift, hinderances for effective execution of any aspect of sub contractors work, for example if you bring in a low voltage/smarthome contractor at a later time, executing his work may be difficult or in process he may damage some imbeeded conduits in the process of breaking wall. If such has been introduce from onset he would be invited for his input time to time to facilitate easy and perfect installation.

Main contractors should be the eye of client in this regards because the overall Glory still comes to him when the house is well and tastefully delivered.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:35am On Oct 15, 2022
Aventures:
In addition, in a process whereby clients wants to choose his sub contractors for stuff like POP, Electrical, Tiling, Smart home fittings, Aluminum should not be a problem to any contractor at all. But I will advice a synergy from planning stage. That is the client should choose his preferred sub contractors and carried them along from the beginning, review the plans together along with the designers and main contractors, draw out approved specifications for each trade and note all the sub contractors should be supervised by the main contractors at a reasonable fee. The reason behind this is to avoid blame shift, hinderances for effective execution of any aspect of sub contractors work, for example if you bring in a low voltage/smarthome contractor at a later time, executing his work may be difficult or in process he may damage some imbeeded conduits in the process of breaking wall. If such has been introduce from onset he would be invited for his input time to time to facilitate easy and perfect installation.

Main contractors should be the eye of client in this regards because the overall Glory still comes to him when the house is well and tastefully delivered.

Ogami you are on point sir....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by praise010(m): 11:57am On Oct 15, 2022
Please house what's the average rate for tiling in Lagos ? Total SQM is approximately 1000sqm
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 12:08pm On Oct 15, 2022
Aventures:
In addition, in a process whereby clients wants to choose his sub contractors for stuff like POP, Electrical, Tiling, Smart home fittings, Aluminum should not be a problem to any contractor at all. But I will advice a synergy from planning stage. That is the client should choose his preferred sub contractors and carried them along from the beginning, review the plans together along with the designers and main contractors, draw out approved specifications for each trade and note all the sub contractors should be supervised by the main contractors at a reasonable fee. The reason behind this is to avoid blame shift, hinderances for effective execution of any aspect of sub contractors work, for example if you bring in a low voltage/smarthome contractor at a later time, executing his work may be difficult or in process he may damage some imbeeded conduits in the process of breaking wall. If such has been introduce from onset he would be invited for his input time to time to facilitate easy and perfect installation.

Main contractors should be the eye of client in this regards because the overall Glory still comes to him when the house is well and tastefully delivered.

That's why we have consultants, QS and project managership the representing the client in every aspect of project execution..What I normally do is to have submittals for all the equipment to be delivered and as well sample board..

All nominated sub contractors must be under the main contractors as you said for a standard practice... Client have the right to choose sub contractors and also consultants can also recommend for client too.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 12:32pm On Oct 15, 2022
If you get it wrong with the main contractor, you're in for a long ride.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 12:50pm On Oct 15, 2022
somehow:
If you get it wrong with the main contractor, you're in for a long ride.

Lolzzz...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akerewe(m): 12:56pm On Oct 15, 2022
abdulwastecx:


I think 1 bucket is 25liters.

It's one bucket of water to one bag of cement.
Let me use this simple calculation to buttress the point.
assuming that you want to use a Water/cement ratio of 0.5. Hence for 50kg of cement, you will need 25kg of water.
Since the density of water is 1000kg/m3, and mass = density x volume.
since one bucket is 25litres = 25/1000 m3
mass = 25/1000 x 1000 = 25kg.
hence 25litres of water is 25kg.

Also to the final question that you asked,
1:2.5:3.5 mean
for every bag of cement ( which is 2 head-pan (flat)
5 head-pan of sand ( flat the surface, don't hip it)
7 head-pan of gravel (flat the surface don't hip it)


Thanks for the swift response, but d above analysis didn't spell out 1:2:5:3:5 kindly spell out what each digit stands for from the above analysis cos I know it's usually times 2 of the ratio, reason being that the concrete mixer usually mixed a bag of cement in two portion . However, are u saying there is no room for soft sand in ur formulation? What if it's column(pillars)?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abbeyb1ack: 12:57pm On Oct 15, 2022
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