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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 10:21am On Oct 15, 2022
basilico:
Obama should have setup the missile shield. Instead he kowtowed to Putin, didn't arm the Ukrainians. In other words he sold out to Putin's desires

Trump gave approval for antitank weapons to Ukraine. See abc news. The fact checkers just muddy your brains for no reason

Here is Poroshenko decrying what Obama sent.

The White House announced that Ukraine would receive $53 million (€41 million) in new aid, including $46 million (€35.6 million) for military equipment such as counter-mortar detection units, body armor, binoculars, small boats and other gear for Ukraine’s security forces and border guards in the east.

Poroshenko used a speech to members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives to appeal for lethal aid.

“Please understand me correctly. Blankets, night-vision goggles are also important. But one cannot win the war with blankets.” He added: “Even more, we cannot keep the peace with a blanket.


You trust fact checkers who
1. Protect democrats
2. Vilify anything Trump/MAGA
3. Are leftists used by big tech..for plausable deniability.When Facebook bans you it was through the recommendation of these Soros funded factchckers

If you can be objective, you will realise that a lot of what you read is just propaganda. Both sides but leftist media dominates the discourse
And if Obama had set up the missile shield will it not be the same you who would have been condemning him for it. Let's test it. Are you in favour of Ukraine joining NATO, yes or no, no long story.

Oga don't dodge this question. LoLz
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:51am On Oct 15, 2022
Bill Maher just makes it very clear.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8t86Fi2JQ
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:52am On Oct 15, 2022
LordReed:
And if Obama had set up the missile shield will it not be the same you who would have been condemning him for it. Let's test it. Are you in favour of Ukraine joining NATO, yes or no, no long story.

Oga don't dodge this question. LoLz
I been there on this thread. Ukraine can join NATO. Russia feels it's a threat to their security. Poland yesterday installed Patriot anti air missiles. These missile shields can also be offensive. If Ukraine joins NATO and install their missile shields only 500km from Moscow, that will not sit well with the Russian.
NATO is a military body solely formed to check Russia Warsaw pact countries.

For the time being and foreseeable future Ukraine can't join NATO unless Russians leave all their newly acquired territory. An attack on one NATO nation is an attack on all of them.

What are the benefits of Ukraine joining NATO? Most of their war machines are Soviet design, their artillery uses Soviet caliber, It will be expensive to transition to NATo standards like 5.56mm ammunition as opposed to their 7.62mm.

How about Russia builds a base in Cuba? Or Panama?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 12:06pm On Oct 15, 2022
basilico:
I been there on this thread. Ukraine can join NATO. Russia feels it's a threat to their security. Poland yesterday installed Patriot anti air missiles. These missile shields can also be offensive. If Ukraine joins NATO and install their missile shields only 500km from Moscow, that will not sit well with the Russian.
NATO is a military body solely formed to check Russia Warsaw pact countries.

For the time being and foreseeable future Ukraine can't join NATO unless Russians leave all their newly acquired territory. An attack on one NATO nation is an attack on all of them.

What are the benefits of Ukraine joining NATO? Most of their war machines are Soviet design, their artillery uses Soviet caliber, It will be expensive to transition to NATo standards like 5.56mm ammunition as opposed to their 7.62mm.

How about Russia builds a base in Cuba? Or Panama?
I asked for a simple yes or no.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:57pm On Oct 15, 2022
LordReed:
I asked for a simple yes or no.
No.
Because it's just a political power game by the West.

Actually I really don't care as long there are no wars, political upheavals and economic downturns.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 1:37pm On Oct 15, 2022
basilico:
No.
Because it's just a political power game by the West.

Actually I really don't care as long there are no wars, political upheavals and economic downturns.
LMFAO! yet you are forming mad that Obama didn't build missile defense in Poland. Abeg goan sit down.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:48pm On Oct 15, 2022
LordReed:
LMFAO! yet you are forming mad that Obama didn't build missile defense in Poland. Abeg goan sit down.
I will arrest you for harrassment

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 11:23pm On Oct 15, 2022
Obrigardo:
I will arrest you for harrassment
https://i.imgflip.com/nmebn.jpg
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:00am On Oct 16, 2022
LordReed:
LMFAO! yet you are forming mad that Obama didn't build missile defense in Poland. Abeg goan sit down.
He kowtowed to Putin. "After elections I'll be more flexible"

Was his last term. Sellout to Putin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:14am On Oct 16, 2022
Questions that democrats should be asking of Joe Biden instead of how "dangerous" Trump is


Are You Better Off?


The November midterm elections will be a national referendum on Joe Biden's presidency.

The 8 key considerations when answering the question in the above title are:
P
1. Inflation and the Economy - Has Joe Biden been successful in reducing inflation and managing the overall economy?

2. Southern Border - Is the Joe Biden immigration policy working at our southern borders?

3. Safety - Is Joe Biden doing enough to build the conditions and enablers for a robust law enforcement policy to keep Americans safe?

4. Parental Rights - Is Joe Biden and his Justice Department doing enough to encourage parents to get involved in the education of their children?

5. Energy Policy - Has the Joe Biden energy policy helped American's become energy independent?

6. Spending - Has Joe Biden been able to rein in excessive spending?

7. Taxation - Has Joe Biden been able to reduce our tax burden?

8. Confidence - Is consumer and business confidence on the upswing or downswing? Why?



What Joe Promised in his campaign

Joe Biden’s campaign told America what the octogenarian would do if the American people were stupid enough to make him president:

Open the southern border

Free criminals

Destroy US energy industry

Flood the streets with deadly drugs

Defund local police

Groom your kids for genital mutilation

Make sure every pregnancy ends in abortion

Kick off record-breaking inflation with profligate spending

Train people to not work

Extend the Covid health emergency forever

Punish the productive

Reward the freeloaders

It was all there in his rare campaign appearances, but people thought they were gaffes
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 9:47am On Oct 16, 2022
basilico:
He kowtowed to Putin. "After elections I'll be more flexible"

Was his last term. Sellout to Putin
And agreeing with Putin is not kowtowing. LMFAO!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:52am On Oct 16, 2022
basilico:
Questions that democrats should be asking of Joe Biden instead of how "dangerous" Trump is


Are You Better Off?


The November midterm elections will be a national referendum on Joe Biden's presidency.

The 8 key considerations when answering the question in the above title are:
P
1. Inflation and the Economy - Has Joe Biden been successful in reducing inflation and managing the overall economy?

2. Southern Border - Is the Joe Biden immigration policy working at our southern borders?

3. Safety - Is Joe Biden doing enough to build the conditions and enablers for a robust law enforcement policy to keep Americans safe?

4. Parental Rights - Is Joe Biden and his Justice Department doing enough to encourage parents to get involved in the education of their children?

5. Energy Policy - Has the Joe Biden energy policy helped American's become energy independent?

6. Spending - Has Joe Biden been able to rein in excessive spending?

7. Taxation - Has Joe Biden been able to reduce our tax burden?

8. Confidence - Is consumer and business confidence on the upswing or downswing? Why?



What Joe Promised in his campaign

Joe Biden’s campaign told America what the octogenarian would do if the American people were stupid enough to make him president:

Open the southern border

Free criminals

Destroy US energy industry

Flood the streets with deadly drugs

Defund local police

Groom your kids for genital mutilation

Make sure every pregnancy ends in abortion

Kick off record-breaking inflation with profligate spending

Train people to not work

Extend the Covid health emergency forever

Punish the productive

Reward the freeloaders

It was all there in his rare campaign appearances, but people thought they were gaffes
oh please. Mean tweets. Orange man bad.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:32am On Oct 16, 2022
LordReed:
And agreeing with Putin is not kowtowing. LMFAO!
See your bias.
Obama did not install the missile shield in Poland and he supplied Ukraine with blankets and night vision googles instead of lethal arms all in order to please Putin.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:15pm On Oct 16, 2022
A feminist

Human parents may evict their fetal tenant around nine months to unburden themselves of its thirst for nutrients, or perhaps the baby gladly vacates the premises, having hit the point of diminishing returns.

Jessica Ayers, an evolutionary social psychologist at Boise State University, told me. The goals of child and parent, however, don’t always align, even when one is growing inside the other. Fetuses may maximize their chances of surviving after birth by extracting as many resources from their parent as they can. Their tool for mooching is the placenta—technically, the very first organ that any human produces, Ayers said—which allows a fetus to access its mother’s blood vessels and siphon out nutrients. The human placenta actually entrenches itself so aggressively into the uterine wall that it sometimes leads to severe hemorrhaging at birth,

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 12:37pm On Oct 16, 2022
basilico:
See your bias.
Obama did not install the missile shield in Poland and he supplied Ukraine with blankets and night vision googles instead of lethal arms all in order to please Putin.
LMAO the bias is totally yours. You are so blind to that fact that you cannot see that saying Ukraine shouldn't join NATO is kowtowing to Putin. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:49pm On Oct 16, 2022
LordReed:
LMAO the bias is totally yours. You are so blind to that fact that you cannot see that saying Ukraine shouldn't join NATO is kowtowing to Putin. Bwahahahahaha!
US Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by juman(m): 3:06pm On Oct 16, 2022
I dont like american politicians.
Nothing special about them.
Third world countries politicians are better than them in thought.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by VictorUSA(m): 5:02pm On Oct 16, 2022
juman:
I dont like american politicians. Nothing special about them. Third world countries politicians are better than them in thought.
How?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by VictorUSA(m): 5:23pm On Oct 16, 2022
basilico:
He kowtowed to Putin. "After elections I'll be more flexible"

Was his last term. Sellout to Putin
Obama didn't kowtow to Putin. The decision not to install/site missile interceptors and a radar station in Poland and Czech Republic was as a result of an "updated intelligence" on Iran's long, short and midium-range missiles that showed they were capable of reaching Europe and that became a fresh matter of concern.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by VictorUSA(m): 5:57pm On Oct 16, 2022
In a recent poll Herschel fell behind his opponent by 2.5 percent.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:20pm On Oct 16, 2022
VictorUSA:
Obama didn't kowtow to Putin. The decision not to install/site missile interceptors and a radar station in Poland and Czech Republic was as a result of an "updated intelligence" on Iran's long, short and midium-range missiles that showed they were capable of reaching Europe and that became a fresh matter of concern.
what you said does not make sense at all.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by VictorUSA(m): 8:53pm On Oct 16, 2022
benalvino3:
what you said does not make sense at all.
It will shock me to my bone marrow if it makes sense to any MAGA Republikkkaaan.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:22pm On Oct 16, 2022
VictorUSA:
It will shock me to my bone marrow if it makes sense to any MAGA Republikkkaaan.
I am not a MAGA, nor am I in the USA and I cannot be a Republican. It still does not make sense.

You are clueless about why Obama did not put the Missile defense system around Russia.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by VictorUSA(m): 9:34pm On Oct 16, 2022
benalvino3:
I am not a MAGA, nor am I in the USA and I cannot be a Republican. It still does not make sense.

You are clueless about why Obama did not put the Missile defense system around Russia.
I'm patiently waiting for you to give me a clue for the sudden reversal or if you can't, come back and edit your comment.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:38pm On Oct 16, 2022
You are a maga, Ben. And you do support the worst side of the republicans.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 10:19pm On Oct 16, 2022
juman:
I dont like american politicians.
Nothing special about them.
Third world countries politicians are better than them in thought.
Be specific next time.

It's RepubliQan politicians not the general American politicians.

The politicians from third world countries are in the same league as the RepubliQans
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 10:23pm On Oct 16, 2022
VictorUSA:
In a recent poll Herschel fell behind his opponent by 2.5 percent.
I don't think he was going to win.

Hopefully Warnock avoids a runoff.
In a normal midterm cycle in October it would be obvious that the RepubliQans would win but since Trump awakened Americans on the power of their votes it hasn't been easy.

I remember salford or salford1 and others on this thread predict a high turnout in the midterm elections this year and its becoming clearer by the day that turnout will be high and Democrats may hold onto Congress and win other races too.

Thanks to GQP extremism overturning Roe and threatening Democracy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:27pm On Oct 16, 2022
benalvino3:
I am not a MAGA, nor am I in the USA and I cannot be a Republican. It still does not make sense.

You are clueless about why Obama did not put the Missile defense system around Russia.
Saint Obama has to be whitewashed by liberal media that Victorusa consumes

: “We appreciate the responsible approach of the U.S. president toward implementing our agreements.”

In other words, pulling back the missile defense shield was part of Obama’s “reset” of relations with Russia. Obama’s idea for a smaller missile shield not in Poland was intended to be “less threatening” to Russia and was greeted that way.


“Obama has been seeking a stronger relationship with Russia,” CNN explained at the time, “and better cooperation from the Kremlin to support tough U.N. economic sanctions against Iran if it continues to pursue its nuclear ambitions



Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. On March 6, 2009, Clinton met with the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Prior to their working dinner, she gave him an unusual gift.

Hillary Clinton opened the little box and presented Lavrov with a red plastic button. The red “reset button” had the word “peregruzka” inscribed in Russian on its base. The word “Reset” was also written in English. Hillary Clinton then told Lavrov, “I would like to present you with a little gift that represents what President Obama and Vice President Biden and I have been saying and that is, we want to reset our relationship, and so we will do it together.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by juman(m): 10:41pm On Oct 16, 2022
Ladyhippolyta88:
Be specific next time.

It's RepubliQan politicians not the general American politicians.

The politicians from third world countries are in the same league as the RepubliQans
Republican politicians have soiled all of the american politicians.
Republican politicians dont believe in democracy, they have no faith in democratic ways and values. They prefer the ways of china, north korea and they envy putin.

If one listen to american senate or house discussion, its shocking.
One will see its discussion of stupid people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by juman(m): 10:58pm On Oct 16, 2022
Hisssssssssssssssssss.
Reading about trump talks one will see american politicians are very very stupid.
Even in third world trump cannot be a leading politician.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by VictorUSA(m): 6:26am On Oct 17, 2022
Ladyhippolyta88:
I don't think he was going to win.

Hopefully Warnock avoids a runoff.
In a normal midterm cycle in October it would be obvious that the RepubliQans would win but since Trump awakened Americans on the power of their votes it hasn't been easy.

I remember salford or salford1 and others on this thread predict a high turnout in the midterm elections this year and its becoming clearer by the day that turnout will be high and Democrats may hold onto Congress and win other races too.

Thanks to GQP extremism overturning Roe and threatening Democracy.
I just hope that Democrats flip more sits in this Mid-term.
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