justwise:


My posts here is not in support of those who abuse the system, nobody here come down on fraudsters more than i do, my frustration with Gemma11 view is the generalisation, her hardcore nationalistic view, student visa holders contribute upfront more into the system than any other type of immigrants.

The UK govt has the means and ways to limit number of students coming in with their families, you can't throw them under the bus after granting them visas at high cost then when they get in you start shouting immigration number bla bla bla

I never generalised anyone. I specifically stated that my points were directed at those mature students packing all of their families here to the UK and then complaining that there was no suitable student accomodation to house those families plus the fact that their children were taken up places in schools etc...again i was only talking about those particular individuals on student visas and not genuine students or those on other visas. You just don't like to hear the truth but guess what.....


...My views have not changed.

jedisco:


Lamba.... Mrs philanthropist.

You remind me of one chap on NL back then who grew up and lived in Peckham and always turned up to insult folks in Nigeria (especially health workers) on NL. Well, those he insulted have come over to meet him while he is no where to be found.

There are properties worth millions in Peckham so don't laugh at that person. To rent a single room in Peckham is like £800 a month and you would have to share the kitchen and bathroom. Renting a whole house is in like £2800 per month so don't laugh as Peckham no be your mate..

I don't have any properties in Peckham sha so I can't be your guy. However I do have one in nearby Lewisham and another in Camberwell.

Gemma11:


I never generalised anyone. I specifically stated that my points were directed at those mature students packing all of their families here to the UK and then complaining that there was no suitable student accomodation to house those families plus the fact that their children were taken up places in schools etc...again i was only talking about those particular individuals on student visas and not genuine students or those on other visas. You just don't like to hear the truth but guess what.....


...My views have not changed.

They are genuine students, they applied for student visa and are allowed to come with their families and they are attending lectures.

Age got nothing to do with this, if you have any prob with this then channel it to the school that gave them admission and the British embassy that issued them visas

Gemma11:


Stay in Nigeria

He is coming here on work visa just like your parents did, so what is your prob? I thought your problem is with student visa holders and their families?

Gemma11:


There are properties worth millions in Peckham so don't laugh at that person. To rent a single room in Peckham is like £800 a month and you would have to share the kitchen and bathroom. Renting a whole house is in like £2800 per month so don't laugh as Peckham no be your mate..

I don't have any properties in Peckham sha so I can't be your guy. However I do have one in nearby Lewisham and another in Camberwell.

Yeah credit to your parents that came over and stayed back to have you, i'm sure they faced insults and..go-back-to-your-country those days just as you are doing here, but they Persevered and here you are...

Seasons 2

Gemma11:


Yes there is a lot wrong with the UK which is why I don't understand why you are here. Go an look for where is right for you because at the moment you sound totally ungrateful and entitled.

It is people like you that will book a GP appointment for a basic cold or cough they can easily go and get that sorted with medication from boots and then complain that they had to wait 6 weeks. How long did it take you to see a free Doc in Nigeria?

To clear your confusion, I am here for the p and the opportunities it affords me and majorly for those that come after me. It's an unfair world as you must know by now, I am only trying to play it smart in a game that is rigged right from the start.

Secondly, I don't feel ungrateful nor entitled as I have not requested for more than I had paid for to be here.

As to healthcare, own it, the NHS is shit. Luckily I don't need them for now. But it worries me how people suffer for their inefficiencies and how it affects even bonafide citizens. Just so you know, for all that is wrong with Nigeria, access to healthcare when you need it is way better than the UK. There are no unnecessary wait times.

Some may argue that you have to pay out of pocket and that specialist care are not enough in Nigeria but then you would also consider just how many people require basic care in the UK but are on an unending wait-list.

And so what if it's just for a cough? Do you advice self medication?

Coming to the UK has been a good investment and still is a profitable going concern but I am not blinded from what's happening around the world and how the dynamics are changing.

In the end, to each his own.

Two options
Remain in your Student visa (former Tier 4). Complete your study with flying colour. Work few hours you can accommodate (NOT EXCEEDING 20hrs)
The other is take sponsorship offer. Move over to work visa (formerly Tier 2). Complete your studies on part time). PS: we've discussed moving from 'Tier 4 to Tier 2' on this thread.
All the best.

boneruns:
... I recently came into the UK on postgraduate student visa. Last week I updated my LinkedIn profile to show my current location in the UK. I have received about 5 job opportunities from recruiters on LinkedIn. Same last week I told two of the recruiters that I'm a postgraduate student on tier 4 visa and I'm only permitted to work 20 hours per week on term time. But they said they needed someone who will do full-time. ... ...
Please is there anything I could do to not default on my visa status while I work for any of these companies? I'm new in UK and I don't know how to handle this situation, so that I can grab this opportunity.

Please I need your advice and input.

justwise:


They are genuine students, they applied for student visa and are allowed to come with their families and they are attending lectures.

Age got nothing to do with this, if you have any prob with this then channel it to the school that gave them admission and the British embassy that issued them visas

Sorry I fail to believe that all of them, especially nearly 50 year old men with full families of dependents, are genuine students. Most of them won't even pass sef but we go see now.

It is not so much my personal problem but I have a right to speak out and support any policy from the British government to stem this type of nonsense so the gates are not completely closed to those young genuine students who are coming to further their studies.

justwise:


He is coming here on work visa just like your parents did, so what is your prob? I thought your is with student visa holders and their families?

He asked a question and I responded..wetin be your own? If he is able to attain a salary of £47k in Nigeria then why leave that for the same in the UK where the cost of living is 100 times higher and such a salary will not stretch far?

My parents arrived in the UK when Naira was n50 to £1 and the cost of living was not as it is now.

Talk your own and allow me to talk my own. You no be my oga and don't have the right to dictate my comments.

justwise:
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Yeah credit to your parents that came over and stayed back to have you, i'm sure they faced insults and..go-back-to-your-country those days just as you are doing here, but they Persevered and here you are...

The word is 'Persevered' not 'Perceived'

Again my parents did not come in a dubious students...Are you one of the fake students coming in from Nigeria.? Just trying to understand your motivation here because if the shoe fits then wear it well I suppose..

Ọga Lexusgs430 will be more suited to ṣàlàyé on this matter. Maybe, you should take him on Kent Rd for Friday point-and-kill! Just remembered, oga at the top, Justwise, might just do justice to this.
Bikonu, we got lost in the 6 or 7 pages on issues of her Majesty. Oops, his Highness. The frank discourse by koonbey and LagosismyHome spiral into matters of Uzomarrr12345 taken over by Gemma11.
Well, I had thought the #many pages would have been about our 'Aunty' Liz 44d for 115k. Alas!
We got lectured.
Hẹ hẹn, that part you ask ... a party is still in Government they have the right to unseat a sitting PM yeah?
You don answer am yourself nah. ... Technically, on the side of statute, Yes, they do.
But then, these are triggers of ... early election.
That one na another UK uniqueness! ... Abi na specialty

HondaLover:
The comparism has been going on for a couple of days or weeks now.......
The sad part is it ends up getting abusive and messy.
... ...
By the way, edakun me I'm lazy to read jàre (the political architecture of this country is kinda clumsy to me, I know the labour and Conservatives are like a party system yeah? If a party is still in Government they have the right to unseat a sitting PM yeah? Which was elected at more or less a primary election eg
(RS vs LT). Edakun ẹ ṣàlàyé o).

CC @Semmyk
CC @Lexusgs430

Gemma11:


Sorry I fail to believe that all of them, especially nearly 50 year old men with full families of dependents, are genuine students. Most of them won't even pass sef but we go see now.

It is not so much my personal problem but I have a right to speak out and support any policy from the British government to stem this type of nonsense so the gates are not completely closed to those young genuine students who are coming to further their studies.

At any point in your life that you decided to make life-changing decision to improve your life and that of your family do it.

Old aged British citizens move to Spain to enjoy good weather and facilities there and still claim winter allowance in the UK. So stop moaning about age of immigrants and their families

Gemma11:


The word is 'Persevered' not 'Perceived'

Again my parents did not come in a dubious students...Are you one of the fake students coming in from Nigeria.? Just trying to understand your motivation here because if the shoe fits then wear it well I suppose..

You are against immigration simple! You told someone coming with work visa just as your parent did to stay back in Nigeria.

You moan about their age, you called students who applied for admission, visa and went through all the legal processes fake and dubious?

You just don't want to see any Nigerian to come in but guess what? You can't stop them, more are coming and get ready to cry your eyes out.

iboboyswag:


To clear your confusion, I am here for the p and the opportunities it affords me and majorly for those that come after me. It's an unfair world as you must know by now, I am only trying to play it smart in a game that is rigged right from the start.

Secondly, I don't feel ungrateful nor entitled as I have not requested for more than I had paid for to be here.

As to healthcare, own it, the NHS is shit. Luckily I don't need them for now. But it worries me how people suffer for their inefficiencies and how it affects even bonafide citizens. Just so you know, for all that is wrong with Nigeria, access to healthcare when you need it is way better than the UK. There are no unnecessary wait times.

Some may argue that you have to pay out of pocket and that specialist care are not enough in Nigeria but then you would also consider just how many people require basic care in the UK but are on an unending wait-list.

And so what if it's just for a cough? Do you advice self medication?

Coming to the UK has been a good investment and still is a profitable going concern but I am not blinded from what's happening around the world and how the dynamics are changing.

In the end, to each his own.

The NHS is shit..what about the healthcare back in your own country,,una get? How many people have been refused treatment because of cost or police report in Nigeria after an accident and died unnecessarily at the hospital doors? I know several people.

What is the maternal mortality rate in Nigeria? Nigeria is in the top 5 in the world of maternity deaths. Young health women are dying anyhow from giving birth in Lagos Island Maternity Hospital and that is supposed to be the best in the country and you have the guts to talk shit about the NHS.

Buying cough mixture which is sold over the counter is not self medicating. The UK health authority has strict prescription controls on drugs about what can be bought readily without medical advice. If you do need advice on what to take then Pharmacists are readily available. Just go into your Local Boots or other Chemists.

Those who understand how to use the NHS understand that it is not every ailment that requires you to be seen by a Doc which is what some of you delusional Nigerians are doing when struck down by the common cold or cough because una don enter land of free healthcare.

How on earth would the NHS provide free at the point of service for over 67million people to give priority treatment to small children, pregnant women, the elderly, those who are genuinely sick or those who have encountered unexpected emergencies such as accidents or being assaulted if people like you who insist on clogging up the veins of the system because you you get small cattarh or cough?

The NHS has websites, apps which offer advisory information on how to keep healthy, treat common ailments and also when to advise people to attend Accident & Emergency centres for emergencies. It is your big grown ass who doesn't understand but wants to clog up the system with nonsense and then cry foul because they are too busy to see you

I hope your ungrateful entitled ass never gets that UK passport.

Gemma11:


He asked a question and I responded..wetin be your own? If he is able to attain a salary of £47k in Nigeria then why leave that for the same in the UK where the cost of living is 100 times higher and such a salary will not stretch far?

My parents arrived in the UK when Naira was n50 to £1 and the cost of living was not as it is now.

Talk your own and allow me to talk my own. You no be my oga and don't have the right to dictate my comments.

This is coming from the same person telling immigrants not to travel to the UK? So what right do you have to tell me where to travel to?

justwise:
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This is coming from the same person telling immigrants not to travel to the UK? So what right do you have to tell me where to travel to?

So you think you have the right to tell me a stranger about what to post on a public website because I expressed an opinion..you are delusional.

Oga Justwise please leave this delusional woman to keep on ranting. Village people everywhere

justwise:
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This is coming from the same person telling immigrants not to travel to the UK? So what right do you have to tell me where to travel to?

justwise:


At any point in your life that you decided to make life-changing decision to improve your life and that of your family do it.

Old aged British citizens move to Spain to enjoy good weather and facilities there and still claim winter allowance in the UK. So stop moaning about age of immigrants and their families

Old age British citizens move to Spain to enjoy their hard earned pensions in the sun. They don't go on student visa with no intention of studying so this your useless defence no dey make sense. Please sit this one out.

Gemma11:


Old age British citizens move to Spain to enjoy their hard earned pensions in the sun. They don't go on student visa with no intention of studying so this your useless defence no dey make sense. Please sit this one out.

Old aged Nigerian student are spending thousands of ££££ to bring their family through student visa, its their own way of improving their lives.

Why did those old aged British citizens enjoy their pension in the UK? Why travel to Spain to put pressure on their hospitals and end-of-life facilities? At lease these Nigerians and their families can still work and contribute to the system while old aged British citizens in Spain are only there to be cared for.

hayesconcept:
Oga Justwise please leave this delusional woman to keep on ranting. Village people everywhere

Just imagine a daughter of an immigrant telling other legal immigrants to go back to where they come from? Just think about that for a moment.

Without Nigerian immigrants, your NHS is worse off with the numbers of Nigerian doctors and nurses and care workers.

Without Nigerian immigrants, some of your university professors will be jobless...

Etc etc etc

TheGuyFromHR:


There's nothing as horrible as listening to a newly-arrived Nigerian putting on a fake accent. It's excruciating to hear. Please don't do that to yourself and the general public.

Regarding speaking, aim to speak like the broadcasters on NTA. Modulate your voice and enunciate clearly. That's what I do. Your accent is
there and will always remain there, and it's nothing to be ashamed of or to worry about.

P.S. When I speak of broadcasters, I'm referring to those who people of my generation who used to watch NTA would be familiar with. Be sure to avoid speaking like those strange radio DJs on Cool or Classic FM in Lagos who try to form strange hybrid accents which are neither fish nor fowl.

Kuku kee me.

I really do not wish to form the accent, honestly. I've already made the decision to do just as you wrote - speak and enunciate the words clearly. Posh accent can wait. So help me God.

I know the broadcasters you were referring to: Cyril Stober, Eugenia Abu, et al.

Gemma11:


The NHS is shit..what about the healthcare back in your own country,,una get? How many people have been refused treatment because of cost or police report in Nigeria after an accident and died unnecessarily at the hospital doors? I know several people.

What is the maternal mortality rate in Nigeria? Nigeria is in the top 5 in the world of maternity deaths. Young health women are dying anyhow from giving birth in Lagos Island Maternity Hospital and that is supposed to be the best in the country and you have the guts to talk shit about the NHS.

Buying cough mixture which is sold over the counter is not self medicating. The UK health authority has strict prescription controls on drugs about what can be bought readily without medical advice. If you do need advice on what to take then Pharmacists are readily available. Just go into your Local Boots or other Chemists.

Those who understand how to use the NHS understand that it is not every ailment that requires you to be seen by a Doc which is what some of you delusional Nigerians are doing when struck down by the common cold or cough because una don enter land of free healthcare.

How on earth would the NHS provide free at the point of service for over 67million people to give priority treatment to small children, pregnant women, the elderly, those who are genuinely sick or those who have encountered unexpected emergencies such as accidents or being assaulted if people like you who insist on clogging up the veins of the system because you you get small cattarh or cough?

The NHS has websites, apps which offer advisory information on how to keep healthy, treat common ailments and also when to advise people to attend Accident & Emergency centres for emergencies. It is your big grown ass who doesn't understand but wants to clog up the system with nonsense and then cry foul because they are too busy to see you

I hope your ungrateful entitled ass never gets that UK passport.

Again I would say this with all sense of pride, access to basic healthcare in Nigeria is a million times better than in the UK, and the NHS right now, is shit.

Your pulling the old stunt of maternal mortality and the assertion that Lagos Island Maternity Hospital is the best in Nigeria says a lot about what you really know about Nigeria. Even this senile and incorrect talk of people not treated in hospitals shows how much of an ignoramus you are.

The NHS needs some serious reform and no amount of blindsiding or emotional tantrums you throw about would change that fact and my awareness of the fact. For a first world country, this is an anomaly.

As to my getting the P, it's not in your bigoted hands. Those that matter would ensure it gets done. Until then, we pin!

Shoo now... go back to your hand me down properties and try to make something good out of them.

Gemma11:


Stay in Nigeria

Because na you be en papa. Tarh shatap

justwise:


Old aged Nigerian student are spending thousands of ££££ to bring their family through student visa, its their own way of improving their lives.

Why did those old aged British citizens enjoy their pension in the UK? Why travel to Spain to put pressure on their hospitals and end-of-life facilities? At lease these Nigerians and their families can still work and contribute to the system while old aged British citizens in Spain are only there to be cared for.

Old age British citizens are not using the Spanish healthcare system as they are not sick. Most times they own properties and and businesses over there which generate taxes.
Unlike fake Nigerian citizens they are not going there with a truckload of dependents taking up places in schools and other amenities meant for Spanish born children of citizens who have paid taxes.
Stop comparing apples with oranges.

Gemma11:


Old age British citizens are not using the Spanish healthcare system as they are not sick. Most times they own properties and and businesses over there which generate taxes.
Unlike fake Nigerian citizens they are not going there with a truckload of dependents taking up places in schools and other amenities meant for Spanish born children of citizens who have paid taxes.
Stop comparing apples with oranges.

This is just ridiculous coming from you, of course they do, so when they are sick to return to the UK for treatment?

Many Nigerians students who paid truckload of £££ into the system before coming here don't even use NHS but they paid for it. They all work to pay into the system.

Nigerians are not lazy, probably the most hard working immigrants in the UK, typical example is your parents, they worked hard hence the reason you are here today talking property they helped you with.

You clearly got no clue how the system work, you are just repeating daily mail talking points

deept:
Without Nigerian immigrants, your NHS is worse off with the numbers of Nigerian doctors and nurses and care workers.

Without Nigerian immigrants, some of your university professors will be jobless...

Etc etc etc

You honestly think she understands this?

iboboyswag:


Again I would say this with all sense of pride, access to basic healthcare in Nigeria is a million times better than in the UK, and the NHS right now, is shit.

Your pulling the old stunt of maternal mortality and the assertion that Lagos Island Maternity Hospital is the best in Nigeria says a lot about what you really know about Nigeria. Even this senile and incorrect talk of people not treated in hospitals shows how much of an ignoramus you are.

The NHS needs some serious reform and no amount of blindsiding or emotional tantrums you throw about would change that fact and my awareness of the fact. For a first world country, this is an anomaly.

As to my getting the P, it's not in your bigoted hands. Those that matter would ensure it gets done. Until then, we pin!

Shoo now... go back to your hand me down properties and try to make something good out of them.

Young Nigerian mothers are dying recklessly anyhow from childbirth, young Nigerians are being left untreated and left to die because of lack of health care in Nigerian and you are proud...You say that with foolish pride. Foolish pride that allows you to compare the Nigerian healthcare to that of the UK's NHS service.

Yes the NHS needs reform because it vital system which should be always be in the transient state of progress and not static like the health system in Nigeria. No one is denying that. However for a newcomer like you to come into the UK to start criticising what you don't have in your homeland reeks nothing but the height of hypocrisy and obnoxiousness.

Look at this chart below and read with your foolish pride. Nigerian women are dying recklessly from preventable ailments during childbirth and you say you are proud. That is nothing but sheer evil on your part and you are part of the problem in Nigeria. Continue burying your head in the sand whilest criticising the NHS.

People like you deserve to stay in Nigeria because una na dey get mouth pass...That P must never reach your hand.

Yes hand me down properties that are generating nearly £20k a month...Jealousy no good o..lol

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/429266-despite-having-highest-maternal-mortality-in-africa-nigerias-situation-still-underreported-report.html

Rogbodiyan everywhere

Ticha please o, come and give us some more schooling about AU/NZ and properties / investment o

That's all I care about right now

justwise:


Just imagine a daughter of an immigrant telling other legal immigrants to go back to where they come from? Just think about that for a moment.

Stop gaslighting here in order to defend your lies as I have no said that.

To reiterrate I have only spoke out against fake Nigerian students who are abusing the system so stop. As I said, it appears you are one of them this is why you are so adamant in trying to shut me down.