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What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:24am On Oct 20, 2022
El Elohe Yahshrael!

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YHVH, and the Word was YHVH.

The Word of YHVH Almighty cannot be separated from YHVH Almighty, they are one.


John 1: 18 No one has ever seen YHVH, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by Maynman: 10:34am On Oct 20, 2022
elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YHVH, and the Word was YHVH.

The Word of YHVH Almighty cannot be separated from YHVH Almighty, they are one.


John 1: 18 No one has ever seen YHVH, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!
The New Testament was not written in English.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by budaatum: 1:42pm On Oct 20, 2022
John 1:1 is in direct contravention of [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020&version=NIV&interface=amp]Exodus 20:4[/url], as it makes the Word an Image of God and replaces that which God is written to have created in God's image.

That said, Jesus, in stating the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2012%3A30-31&version=NIV&interface=amp]most important of all the commandments[/url] as "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these", is a reminder to you that you, and more especially your neighbours, are those one should serve, and there's nothing more humanist than that.

Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 3:15pm On Oct 20, 2022
budaatum:
John 1:1 is in direct contravention of [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020&version=NIV&interface=amp]Exodus 20:4[/url], as it makes the Word an Image of God and replaces that which God is written to have created in God's image.
You don't know what you are saying.


budaatum:
That said, Jesus, in stating the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2012%3A30-31&version=NIV&interface=amp]most important of all the commandments[/url] as "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these", is a reminder to you that you, and more especially your neighbours, are those one should serve, and there's nothing more humanist than that.
What is your point?
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:07pm On Oct 20, 2022
YHWH is a name but GOD is a title.

Just like saying in the Whitehouse was Buhari and Buhari was with the president and Buhari is a president.

Of course he could be with either Clinton, Trump or Biden. One thing is certain: Buhari is also a president he could be in Whitehouse at a point in time but he's not the ruler of America!
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 9:51pm On Oct 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
YHWH is a name but GOD is a title.
So?
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00pm On Oct 20, 2022
elated177:
So?
There is no scripture that says "YHWH is with YHWH" because YHWH is one person not two.

Go and read Psalms 110:1

There it is clear that YHWH told Jesus saying "sit at my right hand" perhaps YHWH was talking to Himself!
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by budaatum: 10:34pm On Oct 20, 2022
elated177:
You don't know what you are saying.

What is your point?
You would not understand what I'm saying, elated, no matter how much I try.

The Word is as God as the finger is the moon, but many look at the finger and think it is the moon. It's why some of you bow down and worship a book instead of understanding what you read in the book.

They tried it on Jesus too, but I so love his response.

Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by tctrills: 12:00am On Oct 21, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
YHWH is a name but GOD is a title.

Just like saying in the Whitehouse was Buhari and Buhari was with the president and Buhari is a president.

Of course he could be with either Clinton, Trump or Biden. One thing is certain: Buhari is also a president he could be in Whitehouse at a point in time but he's not the ruler of America!
I would agree with you on this. I have often stated it on this platform, God is not a particular person. Its a state
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:42am On Oct 21, 2022
tctrills:
I would agree with you on this. I have often stated it on this platform, God is not a particular person. Its a state
It's OK.
But that doesn't make us brothers in FAITH! smiley
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 8:24am On Oct 21, 2022
budaatum:
You would not understand what I'm saying, elated, no matter how much I try.

The Word is as God as the finger is the moon, but many look at the finger and think it is the moon. It's why some of you bow down and worship a book instead of understanding what you read in the book.

They tried it on Jesus too, but I so love his response.
You aren't making any sense, budaatum.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 8:28am On Oct 21, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
There is no scripture that says "YHWH is with YHWH" because YHWH is one person not two.

Go and read Psalms 110:1

There it is clear that YHWH told Jesus saying "sit at my right hand" perhaps YHWH was talking to Himself!
Eheh? So?
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 8:29am On Oct 21, 2022
tctrills:
I would agree with you on this. I have often stated it on this platform, God is not a particular person. Its a state
What did you just say?
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by Maynman: 8:31am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
What did you just say?
“god” is an English word from germanic origin.
Was the new or Old Testament written in English?

Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by tctrills: 8:42am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
What did you just say?
You disagree?
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by tctrills: 8:42am On Oct 21, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK.
But that doesn't make us brothers in FAITH! smiley
Ok
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by budaatum: 10:13am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
You aren't making any sense, budaatum.
No elated, that's not exactly true. What's true is you don't understand the sense I'm making.

Look at you. You don't even know what questions to ask in order to gain understanding of what I wrote.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:18am On Oct 21, 2022
tctrills:
You disagree?
How did that comment of yours sound in your ears?
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:19am On Oct 21, 2022
budaatum:
No elated, that's not exactly true. What's true is you don't understand the sense I'm making.

Look at you. You don't even know what questions to ask in order to gain understanding of what I wrote.
Budaatum, you have no business being on this thread.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:19am On Oct 21, 2022
Maynman:
“god” is an English word from germanic origin.
Was the new or Old Testament written in English?
Tell yourself.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by Maynman: 10:21am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
Tell yourself.
Stop lying to yourself.
Was the new or Old Testament written in English?
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by budaatum: 10:21am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
Budaatum, you have no business being on this thread.
Thankfully, you don't get to determine that and nor do you buy me my data.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:22am On Oct 21, 2022
Maynman:
Stop lying to yourself.
Was the new or Old Testament written in English?
Carry your own load with your own energy.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:22am On Oct 21, 2022
budaatum:
Thankfully, you don't get to determine that and nor do you buy me my data.
You are right.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by tctrills: 10:24am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
How did that comment of yours sound in your ears?
You are not interested in having a discussion so take a hike. Have a nice day.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by Maynman: 10:24am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
Carry your own load with your own energy.
Before nko, my life is not miserable that I’ll be basing my life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by budaatum: 10:26am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
You are right.
Of course I am right.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:28am On Oct 21, 2022
budaatum:
Of course I am right.
Your antecedents get to determine that.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by elated177(op): 10:29am On Oct 21, 2022
Maynman:
Before nko, my life is not miserable that I’ll be basing my life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.
Go your way.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by Maynman: 10:29am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
Go your way.
I’m on my way, go your jewish way.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by budaatum: 10:35am On Oct 21, 2022
elated177:
Your antecedents get to determine that.
My antecedents, lol. Jesus did not tell you that. What he said was he "will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth".

But I guess you, world that you are, cannot accept him because you neither see nor know him.
Re: What If John 1:1 Was Put This Way? by cornelboy(f): 10:37am On Oct 21, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK.
But that doesn't make us brothers in FAITH! smiley
Max do you remember when I said this guy claimed that "God is a state" and he denied it?

He's saying it here again. cheesy

Athiest full everywhere o.
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