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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 10:50am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Totally unlike me, but then can't help ... #16 #1 thread
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 11:06am On Oct 22, 2022 |
hustla: You're welcome Yes, 2 years should be solid enough experience to open doors to more senior BA roles Yes -Agile BA, but last few years I've moved more into product management roles |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 11:07am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Eh God, this argument thing has been going on for like 3 days now and all parties involved can not come to a reasonable conclusion This is affecting discourse which will help people move ahead in their UK journey or ahead ahead Justwise , can you please do something about it or another 10 pages will be used to fill up space? 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 11:08am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Zahra29: Certified Agba Baller When said person is ready to make the BA jump, ill be sure to point her in your direction (Amathriple's too ) Many thanks |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 11:09am On Oct 22, 2022 |
semmyk: Not sure what point (if any) you're trying to make, but knock yourself out |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 11:11am On Oct 22, 2022 |
hustla: Ha ha, not sure I'd classify myself as a baller just yet (imposter syndrome perhaps) but happy to help wherever I can. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by kode12: 11:22am On Oct 22, 2022 |
semmyk: It's one person using two profiles to troll on this thread. It took me sometime to realize, but he/she is just trolling and at the end of the day, na Seun win. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 11:24am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Seemly, a chart was linked to an article. Ingeniously so. Save to say, the article lacks rigour. Does Nigeria has challenges. Absolutely yes (like a resounding amen). Is the narrative what it is exactly. Well, the real domain does not (fully) concur with the empirical domain that is engaged in the actual domain. PS: this I've transposed from critical realism: for those that are research oriented and maybe considering alternative to positivism and interpretivism Just a passing comment on the article. I cannot discard the content of the article neither will I blatantly say it's not worth the 'paper' it's written on. Nope. What I can say however is that should it come to me as a manuscript to review as a reviewer in academic journal or reviewed technical report outlet, I will reviewed with a #reject outcome. Methodology wise, it's unsound. Discussion wise, lacks coherence. Conclusion wise, makes grand assertions that are not supported (from the work). References like the UN were not properly cited. In any case, even the article in it's grand recommendations ack underlying mechanism that are at play. - “Systemic and socioeconomic issues such as the influence of family, access to health facilities and religion on maternal health seeking decisions must be tackled alongside the strategic establishment, storage and distribution of medicines and blood banks. - “Traditional birth attendants are trusted by local community women. They must be better equipped and trained in identifying danger signs and referring women to health facilities at the first sight of any danger sign. State governments must ensure that the activities of unskilled birth attendants are institutionalized and regulated. - “At the national level, the federal government must, not just create guideline documents, but facilitate, implement and support the creation and sustained operation of PHCs in each LGA in Nigeria.” On Nigeria healthcare, yes there are issues. Nonetheless, our PHC are not collosal wreck. It's been one of the surviving areas. I recalled, we had a discourse on this earlier in the year where we disagree to agree and agree to disagree. ... 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Susom(f): 11:28am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Sometimes I imagine what it’s like having a physical discussion with you�. Eager to see your comments but I get lost at the end. It’s not you oh! It’s me.. the fonts, quotations, etc well done though! semmyk: 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 11:30am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Heard that the landscape is about to heat up a bit. FCMB entering the terrain and being smart at it (seemly, operating from the UK!) with their #Rova money saving and transfer. See https://uk.linkedin.com/company/myrovaapp They had better do some promos oh, so that folks can get some owo iya Charlie with maybe referral code! #JustSayingNio 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:44am On Oct 22, 2022 |
hustla: There’s a misconception that it’s only people in the healthcare and tech space that make good money. There are several roles or sectors that one can fill in and still get paid well, e.g., Utilities, Video Editing, Videography, Producing, Directing, and Animation (Media), Construction, Financial Services, Telecom, and more. Also, I would like to add this, as I’ve seen a number of people ask questions about courses and the likelihood of getting a job in that field. It's not about what you learned at Master's level, it all comes down to the skills you've developed since you got your first degree (Bachelor’s degree). If you were a banker in Nigeria where you worked as a customer care representative, you may modify your CV to reflect that as a Business Manager, Account manager or Customer Success Manager. Because in banking, a customer service rep in the UK and in Nigeria do not perform the same function. Customer service reps in Nigeria are more involved in the business; they even take on sales responsibilities based on the KPIs assigned to them. Moreover, if someone chooses to study, say, International Business, it is not about the course, as the course alone cannot get you a job just like that, but it’s about the skills they have developed over time. The purpose of a Master’s Degree is to refine your abilities and knowledge, which is why it is mainly self-taught since they believe that we are already subject matter experts in our industry and are just sharpening what we already know. Hence my lack of understanding as to why someone in a top position in Nigeria, say as an Architect, would want to start over as a Project Manager. If you are well versed in Architecture and you love what you do as an Architect, and then you get a Master’s Degree in Project Management. You have merely expanded your understanding of people and process management, which you may use to your advantage in a role as a Senior Architect. The assumption that when one studies a subject at Master’s level, it means they have to pivot to a new career completely and start from the bottom, is one selling themselves short. You can transfer the skills you have to a role that is similar as a lot of skills are transferable unless you are moving completely to a technical role, e.g., from being a Nurse to being a Software Engineer or Data Analyst and you do not need a master’s degree for this. All you need are a few online courses, certifications, and a lot of practice. You could even get hired from Nigeria. (I know 2 people who got hired from Nigeria to the UK, one as a Software Engineer in a random company and one as a Recruiter (HR oh) for Amazon) However, if it’s one’s dream is to start from scratch, by all means, apply for graduate roles (And begin applying far in advance of your graduation year as most of the good opportunities open up a year in advance ) because for entry level roles, they expect you to have some experience. Epistle over Lol. 17 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by justwise(m): 11:47am On Oct 22, 2022 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 11:51am On Oct 22, 2022 |
Lemme quickly pause to highlight Amarathripple0:Ok, back to reading the rest |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:52am On Oct 22, 2022 |
hustla: Lol I have 3 close friends who are seasoned Product Managers, they’ve been doing it before the role became cool and based on their experience, I think I’ll stick to my function as a Project Manager as the growth potential here in the UK appears to be faster than that of a PM (Product). 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 11:59am On Oct 22, 2022 |
... A truss is an assembly of members such as beams, connected by nodes, that creates a rigid structure ... #Truss, with 44d for 115k, any new addition to our lexicon?
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 12:01pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
semmyk:Lol are you saying that Gemma and Zahra are one and the same |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 12:26pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
kode12: Lol, I'm afraid it took you sometime to arrive at the completely wrong conclusion. I'm not Gemma , however to call her (I assume it's a her cos Gemma is a female name) a troll because she expressed differing, albeit unpopular views, is a bit hypocritical. Black people, even Nigerians, are not a monolith. It's okay to have different views. It's not that deep. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Lexusgs430: 12:29pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Zahra29: Una don hear so, what backs one, faces another...... We cannot all sleep and face the same direction...... 10 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 12:30pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: Lol, because I agreed with some of her initial statements does not automatically mean we are one and the same person? You mentioned earlier that you've followed Gemma's previous posts - perhaps check and see if we even have the same style of writing, before jumping to conclusions. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 12:31pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: The distinction between PM and Product manager for me is a bit confusing Maybe because I am not in the field though but Im sure folks in the field will know better. Someone asked me about it a couple of days ago and it was confusing to me |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 12:31pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Lexusgs430: Lol, thanks Lexus for putting it so eloquently |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 12:32pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Zahra29: Thank you I appreciate Imposter syndrome will disappear with time |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 12:34pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Zahra29:I’m not fighting you oh, I’m a lover not a fighter. I apologise if my question was annoying. Let’s shake hands and move on 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 12:40pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: Ha ha, no worries at all, I wasn't trying to start a fight either. The only fight I'm looking forward to is hopefully the one between BJ and RS Let's have a sisterly hug instead |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Gemma11: 1:08pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: We are not 1 o!! Anyway apologise for disrupting the thread. I am here to help as my previous posts have proved. No more argument from my side as I don talk my own finish. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 1:16pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
hustla:You are not alone, even some companies confuse them. From my understanding, The Product Manager serves as the customer and works with the team to build the wants or needs of a customer through the features, product strategy & vision, road map, user stories etc for the dev team to work with. Project Manager on the other works with the process of the delivery, from ideation to launch by ensuring that the team, scope, budget, quality etc are on track and in line with the requirements. A product manager can also do this but it can be too much for them. There are also other roles that sit just above these two eg Program Manager (Even though in some companies like Meta, Google, Amazon, Expedia etc they call their Project Managers, Program Managers). |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 1:18pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Zahra29:UK politics is like a TV show, can’t wait to watch how this “season” unfolds Lol |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 1:19pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Gemma11:That’s the spirit! |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by leef2022: 1:33pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Zahra29: BJ no see Nada... the economy flight wey e use cut hols short from d carribean island, na im e go use go back.. RS deh swim for threshold. PM don rub soap for BJ eyes, collect 20+ MPs were BJ for use hold body. Las Las after Santa clus, when people don use last savings buy gifts na general election we go see. KS get time to plan wella... |
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