The concept of Trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind. Then, he agreed with himself and volunteered himself to offer himself.

Then, God impregnated a woman as himself, with himself. God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly. God strengthened himself and talked to himself.

Finally, God forsook himself and sacrificed himself to prove his loyalty to himself.
While dead he resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself. Then he sat at his own right hand and waited till he placed his enemies at his footstool. Finally, with Satan’s forces defeated, God would turn his kingdom over to himself that all things would become everything to himself.

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

Lol which is not what it is.

Tertulian will be proud

AntiChristian:

The concept of Trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind. Then, he agreed with himself and volunteered himself to offer himself.

Then, God impregnated a woman as himself, with himself. God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly. God strengthened himself and talked to himself.

Finally, God forsook himself and sacrificed himself to prove his loyalty to himself.
While dead he resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself. Then he sat at his own right hand and waited till he placed his enemies at his footstool. Finally, with Satan’s forces defeated, God would turn his kingdom over to himself that all things would become everything to himself.

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

Strawman arguments, the best Islam can do?

Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

Waiting for you

TenQ:

Strawman arguments, the best Islam can do?

Can you please explain HOW
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

Waiting for you

How many times have we explained it yet you still ask?

One evidence suffice the wise!
A fool is insatiable even with a thousand!

Jubrilcastle has really tried! May Allah bless us and guide us all.

AntiChristian:


How many times have we explained it yet you still ask?

One evidence suffice the wise!
A fool is insatiable even with a thousand!

Jubrilcastle has really tried! May Allah bless us and guide us all.

And how many times have we explained the concept of Trinity yet you're displaying a brand new ignorant tormenting your life

AntiChristian:


How many times have we explained it yet you still ask?

One evidence suffice the wise!
A fool is insatiable even with a thousand!

Jubrilcastle has really tried! May Allah bless us and guide us all.

Since you seem to have been impressed with Jubrilcastle's post, you may help him to conclude for he partially answered question 1 and COMPLETELY ignored question 2, 3 and 4. You may also need to help him out with some of the problems he created by writing too much.

Can you please explain HOW

1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

Let me summarise Jubrilcastle's last post (the one you just hailed)
i. Jesus is a human being
ii. Ruhullah is a mere title for Jesus
iii. Kalimatullah is also a mere title for Jesus


1. Are these titles of Ruhullah and Kalimatullah FALSE for Jesus?
2. Are you in agreement with him that Jesus is NOT Ruhullah?
3. Are you in agreement with him that Jesus is NOT Kalimatullah?

Now, Jubrilcastle raised some dusts about Jesus and Adam being created by Allah's command Be!
You may want to help him by answering these questions
Allah did NOT create Adam or anyone by His command. If Allah did, where is your evidence?
According to Islam, was Adam not created in a span of 40 years? Did Adam not speak before Allah finished creating him?

According to the Quran, where did Allah say BE "kun fa ya kun" to create Jesus?
Is blowing into the private part of Mary the same as "kun fa ya kun"?

Do you agree with Jubrilcastle that said: "The soul of Jesus was a spirit created by God, brought by Gabriel, a mighty angel of God, and breathed into Mary:"
How can SOUL and SPIRIT mean the same thing?

Thank you!
Patiently waiting

How can God be the creator


And still be part of creation.


??

TenQ:

Since you seem to have been impressed with Jubrilcastle's post, you may help him to conclude for he partially answered question 1 and COMPLETELY ignored question 2, 3 and 4. You may also need to help him out with some of the problems he created by writing too much.

Can you please explain HOW

1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

Let me summarise Jubrilcastle's last post (the one you just hailed)
i. Jesus is a human being
ii. Ruhullah is a mere title for Jesus
iii. Kalimatullah is also a mere title for Jesus


1. Are these titles of Ruhullah and Kalimatullah FALSE for Jesus?
2. Are you in agreement with him that Jesus is NOT Ruhullah?
3. Are you in agreement with him that Jesus is NOT Kalimatullah?

Now, Jubrilcastle raised some dusts about Jesus and Adam being created by Allah's command Be!
You may want to help him by answering these questions
Allah did NOT create Adam or anyone by His command. If Allah did, where is your evidence?
According to Islam, was Adam not created in a span of 40 years? Did Adam not speak before Allah finished creating him?

According to the Quran, where did Allah say BE "kun fa ya kun" to create Jesus?
Is blowing into the private part of Mary the same as "kun fa ya kun"?

Do you agree with Jubrilcastle that said: "The soul of Jesus was a spirit created by God, brought by Gabriel, a mighty angel of God, and breathed into Mary:"
How can SOUL and SPIRIT mean the same thing?


Thank you!
Patiently waiting

Can a soul die? Let's say if someone is dead is the soul also dead?
How about a spirit?

AntiChristian:
The concept of Trinity teaches that God asked Himself to go to earth to save mankind.

The concept of Trinity in line with operating out of the limit of a three dimension set up, gives hints of how God Himself came to earth to save mankind.

AntiChristian:
Then, He agreed with Himself and volunteered Himself to offer Himself.

This is because a bad nail nail is driven out with another nail, a good nail, that is.

AntiChristian:
Then, God impregnated a woman as Himself, with Himself.

Do you realise why in order to come to earth God impregnated a woman as Himself, with Himself. Hmm?

AntiChristian:
God prayed to Himself and glorified Himself repeatedly. God strengthened Himself and talked to Himself.

Have you not ever prayed to yourself then, strengthen yourself and talk to yourself by it ?

AntiChristian:
Finally, God forsook Himself

God never forsook Himself.

Which of these two Aramaic words: "Nashatani" [i.e. in Hebrew its, "azabtani"] and "sabachthani" was used by Jesus whilst on the cross?
If you dont believe that God never forsook Himself, then paste here, what the word in Aramaic is, that the English word 'forsook' is translated from, so we can all put it under rigorous examination and check the authenticity of the translation?

AntiChristian:
and sacrificed Himself to prove His loyalty to Himself.

God has no need to prove to Himself anything. The idea of the sacrifice came about before creation and exactly because of man's fall from grace to grass

AntiChristian:
While dead He resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself. Then He sat at His own right hand and waited till He placed His enemies at His footstool.

John 10:17-18
'17“The Father loves me because I sacrifice my life so I may take it back again.
18No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily
For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again.
For this is what my Father has commanded.”'

AntiChristian:
Finally, with Satan’s forces defeated, God would turn His kingdom over to Himself that all things would become everything to himself.

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

Hebrew 1:3
'The Son is the radiance and only expression of the glory of [our awesome] God
[reflecting God’s Shekinah glory, the Light-being, the brilliant light of the divine],
and the exact representation and perfect imprint of His [Father’s] essence,
and upholding and maintaining and propelling all things [the entire physical and spiritual universe]
by His powerful word [carrying the universe along to its predetermined goal].
When He [Himself and no other] had [by offering Himself on the cross as a sacrifice for sin]
accomplished purification from sins and established our freedom from guilt,
He sat down [revealing His completed work] at the right hand of the Majesty on high [revealing His Divine authority],'

The moment you have an epiphany and understanding what a blueprint is, you then will stand a chance of grasping the reason behind the action necessary to be done, and that was taken by God, to address and correct a blueprint that has become compromised

Daceo124:
Lol which is not what it is.

It is what it is, and so more the reason why AntiChristian, my beloved Muslim brother friend, just has to accept or walk on away.

AntiChristian needs to let it be what it is. Yes, it is what it is, not what AntiChristian wants it to be.

God descriptively speaking, is I AM that I AM, meaning, "I AM who (I) AM", "I WILL BECOME WHAT I CHOOSE TO BECOME", "I AM what I AM", "I WILL BE what I WILL BE", or "I WILL BECOME what I WILL BECOME"

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

sonmvayina:
How can God be the creator

And still be part of creation.??

Job 42:2
"I know that You can do all things
and that no plan of Yours can be thwarted.

Jeremiah 32:17
"Oh, Lord GOD!
You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm.
Nothing is too difficult for You!

Jeremiah 32:27
"Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh.
Is anything too difficult for Me?

Zechariah 8:6
This is what the LORD of Hosts says:
"If this is impossible in the eyes of the remnant of this people in these days,
should it also be impossible in My eyes?" declares the LORD of Hosts.

Matthew 19:26
'Jesus looked at them intently (i.e. sonmvayina) and said,
“Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But with God everything is possible.”'

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Don't forget I asked you a set of questions first (which you've not answered)
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

5. How can SOUL and SPIRIT mean the same thing?

1. Are these titles of Ruhullah and Kalimatullah FALSE for Jesus?
2. Are you in agreement that Jesus is NOT Ruhullah?
3. Are you in agreement that Jesus is NOT Kalimatullah?

Above are my questions you DELIBERATELY avoided answering

jubrilcastle:

Can a soul die? Let's say if someone is dead is the soul also dead?
How about a spirit?

Unfortunately, for Muslims who may not even know what a spirit is, it's like explaining Quantum Physics to a kindergarten student.

So, before I answer your question about if a soul can die, I will need a clarification from you so that we are on the same page
1. What is death?
2. What kind of death are you referring to?
3. What is your understanding of the difference between a Soul and Spirit?

jubrilcastle:
Can a soul die?

Of course, souls are not immortal, and in plain English, translates to mean that souls can die, and souls can be destroyed even.

jubrilcastle:
Let's say if someone is dead is the soul also dead?

The soul is not dead, however, the soul upon physical death leaves the body, and journeys on to a waiting area, pending Judgment Day and verdict of where the last destination of the soul, will be. We know about dust to dust, meaning that, the body, after the exit of the spirit (i.e. life or living force), experiences physical death, disintegrates, to end up, returning back, to being dust

jubrilcastle:
How about a spirit?

The spirit actually and appropriately, is ruach, and in reality, otherwise known as, the breath of God.

So, essentially, the spirit, is the spark of light, the living or life force in the body, as it were, while the soul is kind of an interface between spirit and body

When the body dies (i.e. physically die), it is because the spirit (i.e. life or living force) has expired, so the spirit (i.e. life or living force) stops being present in the body, and from leaving the body and returns back to its Owner, who happens to be God.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

TenQ:
Don't forget I asked you a set of questions first (which you've not answered)
1. Jesus is a Human being, the Spirit of Allah and the Word of Allah all at the same time?
2. If Jesus is human, where is His grave?
3. Is the Word of Allah is uncreated and eternal?
4. Is the Spirit of Allah uncreated and external?

5. How can SOUL and SPIRIT mean the same thing?

1. Are these titles of Ruhullah and Kalimatullah FALSE for Jesus?
2. Are you in agreement that Jesus is NOT Ruhullah?
3. Are you in agreement that Jesus is NOT Kalimatullah?

Above are my questions you DELIBERATELY avoided answering




Unfortunately, for Muslims who may not even know what a spirit is, it's like explaining Quantum Physics to a kindergarten student.

So, before I answer your question about if a soul can die, I will need a clarification from you so that we are on the same page
1. What is death?
2. What kind of death are you referring to?
3. What is your understanding of the difference between a Soul and Spirit?

I definitely know it will result to insult right from the on set. If you go back to my first post I told you I hardly go into dialogue with other belief system.
Since I'm been no downgraded to a kindergarten I see no reason going back and forth with all these. Cos it will never stop. From every of my answer different questions kept popping up. Since your religion is most perfect please continue. Thanks

jubrilcastle:

Can a soul die? Let's say if someone is dead is the soul also dead?
How about a spirit?

Soul= spirit+body made from dust

NNTR:
Job 42:2
"I know that You can do all things
and that no plan of Yours can be thwarted.

Jeremiah 32:17
"Oh, Lord GOD!
You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm.
Nothing is too difficult for You!

Jeremiah 32:27
"Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh.
Is anything too difficult for Me?

Zechariah 8:6
This is what the LORD of Hosts says:
"If this is impossible in the eyes of the remnant of this people in these days,
should it also be impossible in My eyes?" declares the LORD of Hosts.

Matthew 19:26
'Jesus looked at them intently (i.e. sonmvayina) and said,
“Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But with God everything is possible.”'

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I am going to pretend I did not see that..

And allow you see where you goofed.

AntiChristian:

The concept of Trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind. Then, he agreed with himself and volunteered himself to offer himself.

Then, God impregnated a woman as himself, with himself. God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly. God strengthened himself and talked to himself.

Finally, God forsook himself and sacrificed himself to prove his loyalty to himself.
While dead he resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself. Then he sat at his own right hand and waited till he placed his enemies at his footstool. Finally, with Satan’s forces defeated, God would turn his kingdom over to himself that all things would become everything to himself.

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

You Moslems think we view the trinity as 1+1+1=1 no we don't rather it's 1×1×1=1 this maths explains the trinity

jubrilcastle:

I definitely know it will result to insult right from the on set. If you go back to my first post I told you I hardly go into dialogue with other belief system.
Since I'm been no downgraded to a kindergarten I see no reason going back and forth with all these. Cos it will never stop. From every of my answer different questions kept popping up. Since your religion is most perfect please continue. Thanks

I apologize if I come to you as insulting, it's not DELIBERATE.

I observed that Muslims hardly ask questions as per their faith and this becomes one of the biggest weakness of Islam. My OBJECTIVE is not to win any argument, my objective is to provoke you to ask questions that you as Muslims would never ask yourselves.

You will observe that the reason you couldn't answer most of my questions is that it leads you outside your comfort zone.

Jesus said:
John 8:32:
"And you will know what the truth is and the truth will set you free.”"

And Jesus said:
John 14:6:
"Jesus answered him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one can go to the Father, except through me."

What if Jesus's claims are TRUE!?

Allah says in the Qur'an
Qur'an 4:82
أَفَلَا يَتَدَبَّرُونَ ٱلْقُرْءَانَۚ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ ٱللَّهِ لَوَجَدُوا۟ فِيهِ ٱخْتِلَٰفًا كَثِيرًا
The proof of Allah as the author of the Qur'an is that it would be free from contradictions.

Just ONE error or contradiction in the Qur'an is more than enough proof that it is NOT from God. Here, I have shown you several.

My plea to you is that you EMBRACE the TRUTH: the truth will set you free!

My joy would be that your name be written in the Register of the Children of God (book of life)!

Shalom!

Lawag3:


You Moslems think we view the trinity as 1+1+1=1 no we don't rather it's 1×1×1=1 this maths explains the trinity

Even if Christians want to use the plus operator, it would be
Infinity+Infinity+Infinity=INFINITY

Ask any mathematician of the correctness of the above!

TenQ:

Even if Christians want to use the plus operator, it would be
Infinity+Infinity+Infinity=INFINITY

Ask any mathematician of the correctness of the above!

Yeah you are correct

Daceo124:
Lol which is not what it is.

Is he wrong?

Explain how he is wrong...

sonmvayina:
I am going to pretend I did not see that..

And allow you see where you goofed.

Hi sonmvayina my long time friend, a man can be woken up, only if the fella is really asleep. This because, no effort made, to arouse him, will produce any effect upon him, if the fella is merely pretending to sleep and pretending to not see. Oh well, morning comes, whether you set the alarm or not. Thats all I am going to say

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Lawag3:
You Moslems think we view the trinity as 1+1+1=1 no we don't rather it's 1×1×1=1 this maths explains the trinity

TenQ:
Even if Christians want to use the plus operator, it would be
Infinity+Infinity+Infinity=INFINITY

Ask any mathematician of the correctness of the above!

Lawag3:
Yeah you are correct

The infinitude of the Godhead

cc AntiChristian jubrilcastle

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
God is not just only a Spirit, that is not made at all, as He is the Maker, but God is incorporeal, meaning, God has no physical body, whereas man, taking into consideration the fact that man is tripartite, is made up with, a soul, spirit and body, as created by the Maker, God.

Unlike the body, that is physical, the soul and spirit, are not physical. The soul and spirit constitute an immaterial part of a whole person or being, whether human or animal.

Now dwelling further on man, the soul, is the animate life, and actually, is that humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from.

In fact, the word, soul, even is used to refer to the whole person, whether alive on earth (i.e. land of the living) and/or after dead and transited in the afterlife (i.e. land of dead)

Wrapping up, the soul is the essence of what a human being is. The soul,is you, it is who you are. No surprises then, that, it is the soul that faces judgment, not the spirit and neither, not the body that stands before God, to give account for all the thoughts, deeds, words and actions did while the soul and spirit were housed in the body.

Focusing on the spirit, the spirit actually and appropriately, is ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force. Now, at this juncture, it is necessary, to note that, though humans and animals have spirit, (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) they however are not spirits nor Spirit (i.e. God)

The spirit (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) in relation to humans, is the element in humanity that gives us the ability to have, not just only a connection with God, but also used to form an intimate relationship with God through it. Essentially, meaning that, part of what the spirit is used for, is to connect to God with, who Himself is Spirit, the Life-force, and giver of ruach, otherwise known as, the wind or breath of God

When the soul is the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, Proverbs 20:27, lets us know that, the spirit of man (i.e. talking of conscience here, and where as it happens, conscience, is one of the faculties of the spirit), is the lamp of the LORD, searching and examining all the innermost parts of his being, while 1 Corinthians 2:11, complementing, says, no one can know a person’s thoughts except that person’s own spirit, and no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit. You see, the spirit, doubles up also as a witness. It knows everything about the person, and this because of the 'record' it logs

While the soul has four faculties, which namely are: Consciousness, Intellect, Will and Emotions, now, as for the spirit, aside Conscience, the other faculties of the spirit, are Fellowship and Discernment or Intuition. It is when man’s spirit successfully connects to or connects with the Spirit, that it is becomes capable of knowing things of the Spirit (i.e. God). While the soul, is the humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, even giving us a purpose and/or sense of life, the spirit, on the other hand, is the temple throne seat of God in man, it not only is, the nourisher of soul, but it also gives us a power of life, from tuning into the God frequency channel or station and receiving transmitted spiritual signals thereof. Somebody, shout, Alleluia.

Physical pain, can with medicine, be made less severe, but mental pain (e.g. sorrow, grief, torment, despair, anguish, depression, dementia etc) is less accessible to treatment. Why is this? It's because of being connected to who we are - our personality, our character, our soul. Try and connect the dots, in the the parable of Lazarus and the dead rich man

Yes, the soul and the spirit are connected, yet we know, courtesy of Hebrews 4:12, that, they are able to be separated and are treated separately

In summary, the spirit, is the spark of light, the living or life force in the body, while the soul is kind of interface between spirit and body

The body dies (i.e. physically), it is because the spirit (i.e. life or living force) has expired, so the spirit stops existing in the body, from leaving the body and returning back to God, while the soul leaves the body, and moves on to a waiting area, pending the Judgment Day and verdict of where the last destination of the soul, will be. The body, after the exit of the spirit, experiences physical death, disintegrates, to end up, returning back, to being dust.

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sonmvayina:
Soul= spirit+body made from dust

1 Corinthians 15:45
'So it is written [in Scripture],
“The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL (an individual);”
the last Adam (Christ) became a life-giving spirit [restoring the dead to life].'

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.

Ezekiel 18:20
'The soul that sinneth, it shall die ...'

The soul, is not spirit+body and never was spirit+body, but, the soul, existentially, is you

sonmvayina, the difference, that you always dont ever see, is that, the spirit, is not you, but rather, your soul, is you and you are soul (i.e. vice versa)

How do you explain from in 1 Corinthians 15:45 there above, how man became a living a soul? Well, frog march to Old Testament to see how in Genesis 2:7, it reveals that it was after God breathed the breath of life (i.e. ruach aka wind, air et cetera) into the Adam's nostrils, that Adam became a living soul. Before any of all that, Adam essentially was a lifeless soul, practically was inanimate, as meaning not alive, not moving, not capable of thinking, not capable of doing anything.

Both the soul and spirit (i.e. the breath of life or ruach aka wind, air et cetera) are gifts. This gift of the soul is yours and yours to keep, but as for, the gift of the spirit, it is not yours to keep, because when all is done and dusted, when one comes to the end of one's life, then the spirit (i.e. the breath of life or ruach aka wind, air et cetera), leaves the body and returns back to its owner, God

Watch this, I have a marvellous, generously well oiled, good functioning and alive spirit within me. Why? Well, it is because, the ruach of God, is not only, purposed, to be only, a life force within me, but in addition to being a life force, the spirit (i.e. the breath of life or ruach aka wind, air et cetera) doubles up, to strengthen me physically and also support me mentally.

It is via the same spirit (i.e. my spirit man) that I communicate with the Godhead. It is with the spirit, that every thing that happens, happened, take or took place are logged and records of them kept.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
'Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely,
and may your entire spirit, soul, and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.'

As human beings, we currently are operating in a 3 dimensional setting and world, and in essence man is tripartite, meaning man is made up of three parts, namely which are spirit, soul, and body and 1 Thessalonians 5:23 seen above, is proof, that the three, are not only just distinct but are separate from each other, too.

When with a glorified body, you break the barrier or limitations of a 3 dimensional framework, doing exploits, as in, like walking into a room through the wall, becomes an easy peasy lemon squeezy thing to do

The soul is not spirit, and anyone that advances this heresy, is been influenced by lies coming off from demons and perpetuating falsehoods.

Can a soul live and exist without a spirit? Of course, capital YES. So in closing, anyone advancing or promulgating that soul = spirit, is spiritually dead, and so is handicapped, from being without a spirit, without a spirit, working in his/her favour

As above, so below, and as within, so without. If you know, you know, if still you dont know, then ...

It is easier to deceive someone, than it is, to convince a person they have been deceived, is your case. Satan has released a spirit of deception. Yeah you read right, released it among poor deluded folks, rich in falsehood, rich in misrepresentation of what the absolute truth is et cetera

The most outstanding attribute of a person who's deceived, is the fact that they don't know they're deceived

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:




The infinitude of the Godhead

cc AntiChristian jubrilcastle

Your God is not one again but infinity?
Very soon you'll redefine your Bible as the Romans did.

God Himself never used the word "Godhead".

Lawag3:


You Moslems think we view the trinity as 1+1+1=1 no we don't rather it's 1×1×1=1 this maths explains the trinity

It still doesn't make sense whether your God exists in addition or multiplication!

Having additional or multiple Gods is contrary to logic, sound reason and even common sense.

AntiChristian:


It still doesn't make sense whether your God exists in addition or multiplication!

Having additional or multiple Gods is contrary to logic, sound reason and even common sense.

I have told you christians don't worship multiple gods that little maths was just to show you how something can be three in one.

You should be worries that your god doesn't know his pronouns calling himself we and us

Lawag3:


I have told you christians don't worship multiple gods that little maths was just to show you how something can be three in one.

They worship God the father, they call on Jesus and expect holy spirit to guide them. Na three separate gods. Jesus did pray to God in the Bible.

You should be worries that your god doesn't know his pronouns calling himself we and us

We understand our pronounce as our Lord called himself "Ahad" the One.
So we know His majesty uses that as He wishes to show His majestic status.

Satan really blinded the minds of unbelievers! 2Corinthians 4:4

Whatever concept anyone fabricated about an invisible entity like GOD remains just a THEORY, the only way to prove it's authenticity is a PRACTICAL APPLICATION through which all can SEE it's BENEFITS.

Whether UNITY, TWINITY or TRINITY let's SEE the BENEFITS of this GOD in the gathering of adherents {Matthew 7:16-18} we all know that humans are imperfect beings so each of us is fallible in thoughts, words and deeds but when a SUPREME BEING who is HOLY dwells in the midst of imperfect beings His invisible qualities will become obvious through the activities of His imperfect worshipers.

So there's no need for arguments just present the group adhering to the words of any God for that matter and leave the rest for right thinking individuals to figure out the rest! Galatians 5:22-23

See people who claimed to be christians confusing their own confusion. These are the one who make muslims fire real christians. For how long will these fake ones causing abominations and making unbelievers trample upon GOD'S SAINT?

AntiChristian:
Your God is not one again

Deuteronomy 6:4
'“Hear, O Israel! (i.e. e.g. AntiChristian)
The LORD is our God, the LORD is one [the only God]!'

There is one God, and the same one God is Infinite.

The Quran, just like the Bible, (i.e. as seen in Deuteronomy 6:4 above), also repeatedly and firmly asserts the fact of God being one in number and His state being infinite

May I advise you to go read up on Supergravity, as one you do, you likely stand a good chance of getting your head round how God operates and pulls off being as God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit

AntiChristian:
but infinity?

Yes, that correct. Infinity, in relation to the state of God being infinite.

AntiChristian:
Very soon you'll redefine your Bible as the Romans did.

John 14:25-26
'25“I have told you these things while I am still with you.
26But the Helper (Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor—Counselor, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit,
whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf],
He will teach you all things. And He will help you remember everything that I have told you.'

John 15:26
'But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father,
even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of me:'

No, not redefine, but what you fail to understand is, it's rather all about the constant prospect of having additional illumination provided proxy the Holy Spirit.

AntiChristian:
God Himself never used the word "Godhead".

Godhead, is a synonym for God (i.e. Elohim), now, please dont tell that you dont use words the Quran never used

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Deuteronomy 6:4
'“Hear, O Israel! (i.e. e.g. AntiChristian)
The LORD is our God, the LORD is one [the only God]!'

There is one God, and the same one God is Infinite.

The Quran, just like the Bible, (i.e. as seen in Deuteronomy 6:4 above), also repeatedly and firmly asserts the fact of God being one in number and His state being infinite

May I advise you to go read up on Supergravity, as one you do, you likely stand a good chance of getting your head round how God operates and pulls off being as God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit

Stop telling lies. You have God the father, God the son and God the Spirit! Each is a different entity! When Jesus was leaving he said he will send the comforter which is God the Spirit. When Jesus was on earth God the father said referring to Jesus "This is my beloved son in whom i'm well pleased". God the father is in heaven and cannot leave there to be born like man like the son did. They all have different tasks yet they are one. This is not in the Qur'an. God being infinite is regarding limit, space, size but not quantity. Your God is three in one. Ours in one and just one only!

John 14:25-26
'25“I have told you these things while I am still with you.
26But the Helper (Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor—Counselor, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit,
whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf],
He will teach you all things. And He will help you remember everything that I have told you.'

John 15:26
'But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father,
even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of me:'

No, not redefine, but what you fail to understand is, it's rather all about the constant prospect of having additional illumination provided proxy the Holy Spirit.

Godhead, is a synonym for God (i.e. Elohim), now, please dont tell that you dont use words the Quran never used

Mumble all your ramblings! Godhead is not Elohim! Elohim can be used for man, God, and even Satan in your Bible.