E hard o.

naijaclass:
The political docility of Christians of the early church could be traced to the fact that Israel and some gentile nations were under the colonial rule of the Roman Empire and Christians were taught to be in subjection to the authorities that be at best, they were to pray for those in power and could not participate in the politics of their time.

This might have been responsible for why Christians hesitate to be actively involved in the politics of our days, whereas, the God we believe and serve is interested in the way the world is governed (Romans 13: 1, 1Timothy 2: 1-2, Genesis 1: 28).

yes ooo. if Christians don't participate how we get Christian politcian leader.

Kobojunkie:
Impossible!

▪︎Jesus Christ warned His followers never to set themselves up as the Gentile rulers - politicians - over any of the others - Matthew 20 vs 20 - 28 & Mark 10 vs 42 - 45 & Luke 22 vs 25 - 27

▪︎ Jesus Christ also indicated that those who are His followers are no longer to work for food that perishes but rather for food that endures to eternity which only He can give to them, and the work He calls on all of His followers to do is to believe in the one who sent Him - John 6 vs 25 - 35

▪︎ Jesus Christ also warned His followers that they can't serve two masters in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 6 vs 24

Basically, you cannot serve the world(its politics included) and serve God at the same time.

You are very wrong. With all your Bible quotations. You forget there are books dedicated to Presidents and Governors. It's called book of Kings. So important they even had 1 Kings and 2 Kings . There are also 1st Chronicles and 2 Chronicles. You read your Bible upside down. Who do you think Joseph was, or the rank he rose to, who do you think Daniel was, what of David? These are examples Oga. God instituted government and he wants his children in it. Be there.

naijaclass:
The political docility of Christians of the early church could be traced to the fact that Israel and some gentile nations were under the colonial rule of the Roman Empire and Christians were taught to be in subjection to the authorities that be at best, they were to pray for those in power and could not participate in the politics of their time.

This might have been responsible for why Christians hesitate to be actively involved in the politics of our days, whereas, the God we believe and serve is interested in the way the world is governed (Romans 13: 1, 1Timothy 2: 1-2, Genesis 1: 28).

Someone just have to do the Dirty Jobs, if not You will lose your Countries and Homeland ....

God Bless everyone in the Game Especially those who are truly for real and hope of Mankind ... It is not Easy !

Yes, You can be a Christian and Be a Politician.. You can't Be Perfect ...

You will Mess up with God and Make Up with God, Only Our Better Intentions saves Us all not Our Mere Actions!

In the Nigerian concept it'd be difficult.

Obi is a good Christian

Humanly it's impossible but with a made up mind alongside the help of the Spirit everything is possible.
I think the ability to resist certain things and the quality of contentment will go along way. Even the little Public service work i do it's not even easy talk more of politics

In the order you write it, absolutely no. It is impossible.
But the other way round asking that, can a Christian become a political leader?, the answer is a resounding, yes.
And the Bible abounds with many examples, their lives, their times, their origins and their ends, enough material to follow the right paths and avoid the minefields.
The Bible is a complete encyclopedia of the right way to political leadership.

NO!
POLITICS is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that was in the garden of Eden.
All those that venture into politics will become conscientious as in deliberate murderers, they will start dragging among themselves who is the rightful ruler which will eventually lead to killings here and there! Revelations 6:3-4

So when God said eating from that particular tree will lead to death it simply means humans will continue wiping out themselves from the face of the earth due to politics so there's no need keeping them longer on the planet so God told His angels to guard the way to the tree of life (antidote to death) which could be found in that same garden. Genesis 3:22-14

As many as those venturing into politics death awaits them {Daniel 2:44} God is prepared to forgive us that's why He anointed a King for us whose name is Jesus Christ of Nazareth, this is the one and only rightful King who will lead us to perfection using God's standard. He never thought of anything good on his own except whatever God says is good {John 8:28-29} unlike human rulers who wants to rule over their fellowman with their own understanding {Proverbs 3:5-6} Jesus strongly believe that only GOD knows what is GOOD {Luke 18:19} so we must all trust (believe) in God's standard regarding RIGHT and WRONG or just as the Bible book of Genesis puts it GOOD and EVIL! Genesis 2:17

Redomi:
Na because we dey poor na why we humble, make we hit big money, na den you go know whats up

Absolutely correct. Until a man has some money, you won't know his true character.

Feed a poor man, take him into your house, be kind to him, show him the way, etc. Once he has made money, it takes a very Godly person not to betray you or disrespect you later.

So never inconvenience yourself just to be good to others. Do only what easily afford to do. Talking from experience.

After discouraging Christians from going to politics later we start shouting why don't
want Muslim Muslim ticket.

No, nothing doing...

You can't serve Two masters: God and people, or God and money—unrighteous money at that.

God bless.

Ok
The impossible have it
End of thread

Jokes apart, some of these Nigerian politicians are babalawo.
In fact, devil dey fear them sef.

[quote author=holuwajobar post=117802334]For example

Look at our VP, Yemi osinbajo


That's your answer[/qu upote]

Politice in Nigeria is not easy for genuine christianity . The Nigeria politice is range from lies, taken what belongs to many as yours , backbiting, etc.

Like that of osinnajo I won't called it politice because he was there by chance with I can say by lifting up to that position by God himself. If professor Yemi Osinnajo shou asked this question of Christin participating in politice I know he will say it is not what Christians can do.

When you see the truth but you can't said it , when they are doing wrong and you. can't forbid them, when you are seeing as been weak because you don't want to Join them to do evil. When you are label as enemy of their progress, when you are given what is not your and you are told to take it and keep quiet etc.

Not in nigeria. Except maybe you want to become a genuine labour party politician. Sense of morality is more or less dead in nigeria,even among the so-called genuine christians.

It is possible but rare

Capital NO as Nigeria case except you're not willing to hold public office. Nigeria politics is rotten.

trutht828:
But gentile rulers will rule over Christians and sometimes make antichristian rules that the Christians must follow

So?

Etiyin:
Who should now lead if Christians distance themselves from politics. At the end, you will be complaining about bad governments and mismanagement of resources �

Jesus Christ did not call His followers to lead anyone or anything. He called them to serve Him as people who are not even of this world. So why the obsession with this world, and its politics, if Jesus Christ is truly who you want?

Cheeryfeet:

You are very wrong. With all your Bible quotations. You forget there are books dedicated to Presidents and Governors. It's called book of Kings. So important they even had 1 Kings and 2 Kings . There are also 1st Chronicles and 2 Chronicles. You read your Bible upside down. Who do you think Joseph was, or the rank he rose to, who do you think Daniel was, what of David? These are examples Oga. God instituted government and he wants his children in it. Be there.

The problem with the lot of you is you don't even understand what it is you claim to believe.

The books you quote apply to the Nation of Israel, a nation that is of this world. God never gave to you that Land nor the promise that goes with it. Instead, God called you to an agreement in a Kingdom that is not of this world, and Jesus Christ is fhe Law in that Kingdom whom you are to obey.

mu2sa2:
Peter obi that has been exposed by Pandora papers for hiding a whopping $500m in secret offshore account under his child's name. Ole, barawo, onye oshi - clean life ke!

And have you reported this to EFCC?

Kobojunkie:
The problem with the lot of you is you don't even understand what it is you claim to believe.

The books you quote apply to the Nation of Israel, a nation that is of this world. God never gave to you that Land nor the promise that goes with it. Instead, God called you to an agreement in a Kingdom that is not of this world, and Jesus Christ is fhe Law in that Kingdom whom you are to obey.

Well I rest my case. Jesus knows a day like this will come, no wonder he said " be it unto you according to your faith". For all I know we may just be seeing an elephant just from different perspectives.

Why not? It's stupid to allow evil rule over good. The politics of Nigeria became a zone of Satan because the angels in the geographical expression absconded their duty post.

You can never be free and enjoy God's blessings if you don't handle the process that produces who determine your living in this evil marriage. Your salvation and good relationship with Christ come first. While you're awaiting Christ's second coming, get involved in what determine how well and secure you live otherwise you hurt for it.

You can't do it like those guys, so win first with the Word and prayer, then do the needful. The church cannot play the ostrich, because those people visit churches for prayer, votes, support and endorsement from general overseers. Are we not involved by doing that? No room for pretention or ignorance.

Kobojunkie:
So?

Shebi you have a brain? Use it to answer your own question.

Cheeryfeet:
Well I rest my case. Jesus knows a day like this will come, no wonder he said " be it unto you according to your faith". For all I know we may just be seeing an elephant just from different perspectives.

There is only one Truth, everything else is a lie compared to the Truth.

God's Old Covenant Law of Moses was fashioned by HIm as the National Constitution for the Nation of Israel which He constituted of the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. The Law itself was given, as the National Constitution to the Jewish Nation living in the Land.

15 “Today I have given you a choice between life and death, success and disaster.
16 I command you today to love the Lord your God. I command you to follow him and to obey his commands, laws, and rules. Then you will live, and your nation will grow larger. And the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take for your own.
17 But if you turn away from your God and refuse to listen, if you are led away to worship and serve other gods,
18 you will be destroyed. I am warning you today, if you turn away from God, you will not live long in that land across the Jordan River that you are ready to enter and take for your own.
19 “Today I am giving you a choice of two ways. And I ask heaven and earth to be witnesses of your choice. You can choose life or death. The first choice will bring a blessing. The other choice will bring a curse. So choose life! Then you and your children will live.
20 You must love the Lord your God and obey him. Never leave him, because he is your life. And he will give you a long life in the land that he, the Lord, promised to give to your ancestors—Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15

So everything regarding Israel, is according to God's Law which He intentionally exempted those of other Nations from. So, when you quote that which pertains to the Kings of Israel as if to suggest you are involved or included, you actually insult God by that as you insinuate He was foolish in excluding those of gentile birth from the agreement which He made only with those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins.

Jesus Christ, God's New agreement which God promised to send to bless all Nations of the world with is a different Law and Covenant which God makes, not with Nations of this world, but with individuals who would rather become citizens of the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world - Matthew 26 vs 26 - 30. And according to Jesus Christ, all those who belong to Him, His Kingdom, are those who live their lives in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 7 - 14.

So why covet that which God gave only to the children of Israel?

seunayantokun:
1. You can never be free and enjoy God's blessings if you don't handle the process that produces who determine your living in this evil marriage. Your salvation and good relationship with Christ come first. While you're awaiting Christ's second coming, get involved in what determine how well and secure you live otherwise you hurt for it.

2. You can't do it like those guys, so win first with the Word and prayer, then do the needful. The church cannot play the ostrich, because those people visit churches for prayer, votes, support and endorsement from general overseers. Are we not involved by doing that? No room for pretention or ignorance.

1. What you are insinuating is that God's blessings are dependent on the socioeconomic climate of the nation. God, to you, is that powerless?

2. So in order to do that which God says, you should do that which is against God? Why confuse yourself by claiming to hold on to God abeg?

trutht828:
Shebi you have a brain? Use it to answer your own question.

What question?

Etiyin:
1. Who should now lead if Christians distance themselves from politics.
2. At the end, you will be complaining about bad governments and mismanagement of resources �

1. Certainly not anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ.
2. I have been walking this path for the last 5 or so years now, and I am not even the least bit concerned about the governments of this world or their politics. Why? because it all means nothing when one is focused on Jesus Christ and the mission set by Him for His followers.

Kobojunkie:
1. What you are insinuating is that God's blessings are dependent on the socioeconomic climate of the nation. God, to you, is that powerless?

2. So in order to do that which God says, you should do that which is against God? Why confuse yourself by claiming to hold on to God abeg?

I would have liked to explain to you what you don't know but with what you've said here, I doubt your understanding of the Christian religion as much as your knowledge of and relationship with Christ.

seunayantokun:
I would have liked to explain to you what you don't know but with what you've said here, I doubt your understanding of the Christian religion as much as your knowledge of and relationship with Christ.

1. What you are insinuating is that God's blessings are dependent on the socioeconomic climate of the nation. God, to you, is that powerless?

2. So in order to do that which God says, you should do that which is against God? Why confuse yourself by claiming to hold on to God abeg?

Kobojunkie:
What question?

Dont tell me you are too dumb to recognize a question, even the one asked by yourself?

You are either absord or dumb.

trutht828:
Dont tell me you are too dumb to recognize a question, even the one asked by yourself?

You are either absord or dumb.

OK