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Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by BeardedMeat(m): 8:52am On Oct 29, 2022
egbabiekperemo1:
Walahi
Bots all of you. Bacanista well done.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by gasparpisciotta: 8:52am On Oct 29, 2022
AdamawaLastBon:
As e dey pain dem, e dey sweet us. Atiku has no criminal records in US, Atiku will be your next president.
See suit like lab coat grin
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by BeardedMeat(m): 8:52am On Oct 29, 2022
[quote author=Carlylepneuma post=117959851][/quote]Another bot
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by BeardedMeat(m): 8:53am On Oct 29, 2022
PrinceMKB:
Does a governor in Nigeria have immunity in the USA?
Strange international relations from the Obidients.
Bot
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by BeardedMeat(m): 8:54am On Oct 29, 2022
PrinceMKB:
Make una get bucket for Obidient
Bot
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by PrinceMKB: 8:56am On Oct 29, 2022
Una go over cry today

Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Obidient4life3: 8:57am On Oct 29, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:
TonyeBarcanista

1. Atiku Abubakar's visit to United States has exposed some ignoramuses that are using Tambuwal’s presence in the trip to spin narrative.

Sadly, they don't know that only heads of Sovereign countries enjoy cross-border immunity.

2. These ignoramuses don't know that Tambuwal's only enjoys immunity within Nigeria & holding a diplomatic passport doesn't exempt one from cross-border arrest. Even in the United States sitting Governors are arrested & prosecuted not to talk of Governors from a third world country.

3. The ignoramuses don't even know that as a former Vice President of Nigeria, Atiku is entitled to Diplomatic passport for life - which he uses for transnational trips. They don't know that the passport doesn't grant him immunity anywhere in the world if he breaks the law.

4. These ignoramuses don't know that if Atiku was a US fugitive, UAE government would have extradited him long ago just like they did Hushpuppy (USA) and James Ibori (UK).

Ignoramuses don't know that USA has never for once sought extradition order on Atiku like they did Abba Kyari

5. These ignoramuses willingly refused to come to reality that Atiku Abubakar has no criminal indictment in the USA, Nigeria or any other country - hence, he freely moves around.

Thankfully, Majority Nigerians know these facts and are fully with Atiku Abubakar for #PDPRecoveryPlan

Credit: Tonye Barcanista
Says of one the chief IGNORAMUSES on Nairaland.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by TOPCRUISE(m): 8:57am On Oct 29, 2022
Tinubu never come visit USA.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by BafanaBafana: 8:58am On Oct 29, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:
TonyeBarcanista

1. Atiku Abubakar's visit to United States has exposed some ignoramuses that are using Tambuwal’s presence in the trip to spin narrative.

Sadly, they don't know that only heads of Sovereign countries enjoy cross-border immunity.

2. These ignoramuses don't know that Tambuwal's only enjoys immunity within Nigeria & holding a diplomatic passport doesn't exempt one from cross-border arrest. Even in the United States sitting Governors are arrested & prosecuted not to talk of Governors from a third world country.

3. The ignoramuses don't even know that as a former Vice President of Nigeria, Atiku is entitled to Diplomatic passport for life - which he uses for transnational trips. They don't know that the passport doesn't grant him immunity anywhere in the world if he breaks the law.

4. These ignoramuses don't know that if Atiku was a US fugitive, UAE government would have extradited him long ago just like they did Hushpuppy (USA) and James Ibori (UK).

Ignoramuses don't know that USA has never for once sought extradition order on Atiku like they did Abba Kyari

5. These ignoramuses willingly refused to come to reality that Atiku Abubakar has no criminal indictment in the USA, Nigeria or any other country - hence, he freely moves around.

Thankfully, Majority Nigerians know these facts and are fully with Atiku Abubakar for #PDPRecoveryPlan

Credit: Tonye Barcanista
Are you ignorant or you are trying to mislead people?
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by dannykares: 9:01am On Oct 29, 2022
gasparpisciotta:
Indictment or not, Atiku will not achieve anything with all this arrangee meeting with his American ignoramus and his ignoramus entourage
Wen obi was traveling round de world u never condemned his movement beside 50yrs to come b4 u cn achieve was Atiku had as hands Omo be positive nd stop running ur mouth wen in life u never enta plane
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by AdamawaLastBon(m): 9:03am On Oct 29, 2022
Atiku is not a thief and if you have anything against him pls approach the court so that he can be jail. Atiku has challenge anybody who has anything against him to come forward with clear evidence and to the best of my knowledge nobody has accepted that challenge. Atiku Abubakar is the next president Nigeria by His Grace



flejnr2:
And the ignoramuses are not supporting there fellow ignoramus like you who is an ignoramus

All your big big grammar can’t remove the thief boldly written in atiku’s forehead
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by dyera(m): 9:04am On Oct 29, 2022
slivertongue:
Why the debate? I thought APC folks say he can't enter USA.
If he enters US by himself, he will not be able to return. He enters Dubai by himself all the time, why is he afraid of entering US by himself?
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by AdamawaLastBon(m): 9:05am On Oct 29, 2022
I'm surprised that some people are so comfortable driving their campaigns based on hate and fake news. Why will a two-term vice president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria travel out of the country as an aide to a governor? Do they think Atiku is not known in the US? Nawaoo
Atiku is the President in waiting and there is nothing this Obi cultists can do about it.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by SeunNotOwner: 9:05am On Oct 29, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:
TonyeBarcanista

1. Atiku Abubakar's visit to United States has exposed some ignoramuses that are using Tambuwal’s presence in the trip to spin narrative.

Sadly, they don't know that only heads of Sovereign countries enjoy cross-border immunity.

2. These ignoramuses don't know that Tambuwal's only enjoys immunity within Nigeria & holding a diplomatic passport doesn't exempt one from cross-border arrest. Even in the United States sitting Governors are arrested & prosecuted not to talk of Governors from a third world country.

3. The ignoramuses don't even know that as a former Vice President of Nigeria, Atiku is entitled to Diplomatic passport for life - which he uses for transnational trips. They don't know that the passport doesn't grant him immunity anywhere in the world if he breaks the law.

4. These ignoramuses don't know that if Atiku was a US fugitive, UAE government would have extradited him long ago just like they did Hushpuppy (USA) and James Ibori (UK).

Ignoramuses don't know that USA has never for once sought extradition order on Atiku like they did Abba Kyari

5. These ignoramuses willingly refused to come to reality that Atiku Abubakar has no criminal indictment in the USA, Nigeria or any other country - hence, he freely moves around.

Thankfully, Majority Nigerians know these facts and are fully with Atiku Abubakar for #PDPRecoveryPlan

Credit: Tonye Barcanista
If you didn't commit a federal offense, no police will arrest a Diplomat or someone with diplomatic identity.

Make your research well
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Teebouye995(m): 9:06am On Oct 29, 2022
So many ignoramus tears under this post ��

The thing touch them
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Maigariphanuel2(m): 9:14am On Oct 29, 2022
Atiku is my choice ✌️✌️

1. Atiku Abubakar's visit to United States has exposed some ignoramuses that are using Tambuwal’s presence in the trip to spin narrative.

Sadly, they don't know that only heads of Sovereign countries enjoy cross-border immunity.

2. These ignoramuses don't know that Tambuwal's only enjoys immunity within Nigeria & holding a diplomatic passport doesn't exempt one from cross-border arrest. Even in the United States sitting Governors are arrested & prosecuted not to talk of Governors from a third world country.

3. The ignoramuses don't even know that as a former Vice President of Nigeria, Atiku is entitled to Diplomatic passport for life - which he uses for transnational trips. They don't know that the passport doesn't grant him immunity anywhere in the world if he breaks the law.

4. These ignoramuses don't know that if Atiku was a US fugitive, UAE government would have extradited him long ago just like they did Hushpuppy (USA) and James Ibori (UK).

Ignoramuses don't know that USA has never for once sought extradition order on Atiku like they did Abba Kyari

5. These ignoramuses willingly refused to come to reality that Atiku Abubakar has no criminal indictment in the USA, Nigeria or any other country - hence, he freely moves around.

Thankfully, Majority Nigerians know these facts and are fully with Atiku Abubakar for #PDPRecoveryPlan

Credit: Tonye Barcanista[/quote]
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Scamburster(m): 9:14am On Oct 29, 2022
Munzy14:
Atiku paid him same amount as Tinubu and Buhari paid you and other urchins to constitute online nuisance here and there.
Hahaahahahaha, salvage.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Mence: 9:14am On Oct 29, 2022
And they said he can't enter USA ����
Here is Atiku with the Assistant Secretary of State. USA, Molly Phee.

Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by BreconHills(m): 9:20am On Oct 29, 2022
Bacteria8:
I get your point now.

But then Atiku didn't go there just to prove a point.

He went there because he was invited by US Chamber of Commerce.

The man doesn't give 2 fvcks about those US banters.

By the way, what do you mean by you are a regionalist ?
I dont believe in Nigerias federal structure I believe that the decoupling of the regions is the only way forward. Whether it starts from fiscal decoupling or is even structural - it just has to happen. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. I want someone who has that as a vision and who has the street smarts to make it happen even in the light of strong vested interests.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by BreconHills(m): 9:21am On Oct 29, 2022
Bacteria8:
I get your point now.

But then Atiku didn't go there just to prove a point.

He went there because he was invited by US Chamber of Commerce.

The man doesn't give 2 fvcks about those US banters.

By the way, what do you mean by you are a regionalist ?
I dont believe in Nigerias federal structure I believe that the decoupling of the regions is the only way forward. Whether it starts from fiscal decoupling or is even structural - it just has to happen. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. I want someone who has that as a vision and who has the street smarts to make it happen even in the light of strong vested interests.

A better picture by the way.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by zionstaar75(m): 9:23am On Oct 29, 2022
Doyou2019:
For every wrong move Atiku has made ,Tinubu, whom you shamelessly support , has made double. Evil is evil .You don't get to pick and choose.
I can never support tinubu in my life after the Muslim Muslim ticket. Stop jumping to conclusions. Atiku will never rule this country. On Peter obi mandate I stand
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Bacteria8: 9:26am On Oct 29, 2022
BreconHills:
I dont believe in Nigerias federal structure I believe that the decoupling of the regions is the only way forward. Whether it starts from fiscal decoupling or is even structural - it just has to happen. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. I want someone who has that as a vision and who has the street smarts to make it happen even in the light of strong vested interests.

A better picture by the way.
What's the significant difference 13% derivation has brought to the NigerDelta states ?
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Bacteria8: 9:26am On Oct 29, 2022
zionstaar75:
I can never support tinubu in my life after the Muslim Muslim ticket. Stop jumping to conclusions. Atiku will never rule this country. On Peter obi mandate I stand
You go stand tire grin
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Teitei: 9:34am On Oct 29, 2022
Where are those people saying that Atiku can't enter USA?���
maku una dey read and ask questions before talking.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by GEEBITE: 9:52am On Oct 29, 2022
Lets leave politics and our political leanings out of this.
The points he made are facts and very valid .
atinga1:
You're the ignoramus here.
Atiku paid heavily for a temporary waiver to be in the US.
He has no reason to be there, but since not going to the US will taint his campaign, he decided to pay to have his criminal ass left alone in the US.
Either you know this or you're even dumber than I thought.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by GEEBITE: 9:54am On Oct 29, 2022
The allegations against Atiku are Federal offences which he can be arrested or extradited.
SeunTheOwner:
If you didn't commit a federal offense, no police will arrest a Diplomat or someone with diplomatic identity.

Make your research well
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by GEEBITE: 9:57am On Oct 29, 2022
What about Emilokan fanboys ? They have been more vocal . Keyamo was screaming of a sealed indictment in 2019,now we are hearing of waiver. I am not absolving Atiku of his underhand dealings here.
shortIGBOman:
This guy just dey educate Peter Obi and his IPOB supporters. You too much. grin
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by flejnr2(f): 9:57am On Oct 29, 2022
AdamawaLastBon:
Atiku is not a thief and if you have anything against him pls approach the court so that he can be jail. Atiku has challenge anybody who has anything against him to come forward with clear evidence and to the best of my knowledge nobody has accepted that challenge. Atiku Abubakar is the next president Nigeria by His Grace
Am disappointed in you, you are not worthy of sharing the same social space with me, please back off[/quote]
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Prince111111: 10:03am On Oct 29, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:
All the comments by Obidient cultists carry zero intellectual engagement... just insults and yeye personal attacks.
that is their landmark ofcos. A person stated the truths and maybe one or two persons with many monikers just spewing ridiculous words..nawaooo
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Timmi: 10:03am On Oct 29, 2022
Bacteria8:
Read bro. Pls always read.

He was invited to speak at a program organized by US Department of Commerce
Bacteria8, Atiku wasn’t invited by the US Department of Commerce but he rather invited himself. Learn to read between the lines big bro.
Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by Baarharle: 10:07am On Oct 29, 2022
#pdpRecoveryplan

Atiku with the Assistant Secretary of State. USA, Molly Phee

Shey Person wey go to USA as aide Abi naa wetin be the mess wey you dey yarn dey take picture in this manner

Make u naa wake up from your slumber Atiku/Okowa is coming and Nigeria will be working again

Make i dey congratulate him in advance, my incoming president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria
“as e dey pain dem, e dey sweet us”

Re: Atiku's USA Trip: Beyond The Fake News And Rumors - TonyeBarcanista by slivertongue: 10:09am On Oct 29, 2022
dyera:
If he enters US by himself, he will not be able to return. He enters Dubai by himself all the time, why is he afraid of entering US by himself?
In 2019, distraught Buharist minions lied that Atiku traveled to the US as an "aide" to Bukola Saraki to evade FBI arrest! Now some people on Twitter are saying he came to the US as an “aide” to Sokoto State governor Aminu Waziri Tambuwal.

I'd thought only cognitively low-wattage Buhari supporters propagated this transparently foolish falsehood, but supposedly educated people are peddling this same mendacity in 2022.

Atiku is a prominent person whose dossier the US already has. He can't hide and can't ride on anyone's coattails. He applied for a visa, gave his biographical information to the US embassy in Nigeria— including his biometric data—as a precondition for getting the visa.

Because he had a more prominent national and international stature than Saraki and Tambuwal do (he was Nigeria's number two man for 8 years) he couldn't possibly lie to the US embassy about being an "aide" to Saraki or Tambuwal. That would have been an easily detectable lie that would have caused the consular officer to laugh uncontrollably—and deny him a visa instantly.

It's absurd to believe that a 75-year-old former Vice President of the world's most populous black nation would lie about being an aide to a 59-year-old Saraki or a 56-year-old Tambuwal.

At the point of admission into the US, visitors give their passports to immigration officers, who run them in the system to verify that such visitors are the people they say they are—and to determine if they're on any wanted list.

That means US immigration officers knew that Atiku Abubakar was Nigeria's former vice president at the time he got into the US. If the FBI wanted to arrest him, he would have been arrested there and then.

Most importantly, though, diplomatic immunity of visiting foreign government officials does NOT extend to the aides of such officials. It only extends to the foreign officials' family members. So even if Atiku had lied that he was Saraki's or Tambuwal’s aide, as preposterous as that sounds, he would still have been arrested if he was on FBI's wanted list.
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