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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by timay1: 5:56pm On Nov 03, 2022
basilico:
Major issue with Democrat is aborting babies. Overturning Roe Vs Wade. Obama harped on it too yester
It was so cringe.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:59pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
My prediction for Tuesday is that Republicans will retake control of Congress, with 51 seats in the Senate and at least 224 in the House of Reps.

Some sites like RealClearPolitics are even projecting the Republicans to hold 54 Senate seats.

However, one way that Democrats could swing the election if they promise to decriminalize the cultivation and use of marijuana at the federal level..
Republican will take control of Congress thats almost certain

Senate is still dicey

Walker vs Warnock, Fetterman vs Oz, are very close. Same with Nevada race

Senator Johnson is likely to win Mandela Barnes, While I think Mark Kelly might defeat Blake Masters. And Odea to lose Colorado

Rubio to wipe the floor with Demmings and Kemp to edge out Stacey Abrams

Even unlikely races like Bolduc is getting close to Maggie Hassan. Zeldin is running close in New York
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 5:59pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
That speech yesterday was pathetic, Its a new low. An election 6 days away and he had to do a primetime speech to warn the voters about the opponents, I saw it on CNN and was genuinely ashamed for Biden, By the time I tuned to Fox, they were actually having a ball just laughing at Biden

CNN just released a poll today that almost 60% of Americans major concern right now is the economy and inflation but Biden has nothing to say about those concerns except for Republicans, GOP. I really hope Biden runs in 2024
But most Republicans running in competitive races are mostly talking about crime rate. If I were in their shoes, I would continue hammering about inflation till election day.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 6:02pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
But most Republicans running in competitive races are mostly talking about crime rate. If I were in their shoes, I would continue hammering about inflation till election day.
Hmmm.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:05pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
But most Republicans running in competitive races are mostly talking about crime rate. If I were in their shoes, I would continue hammering about inflation till election day.
Inflation and crime are their major thing. I believe they are the top 2 concern in the country now. See how the Mayor of San Francisco was disgraced because of his non prosecution policy for theft

In Oregon for example the governor race got competitive because of the crime rate and homelessness
New Yorkers feel the crime wave and are trending towards Zeldin

Democrats are playing defence all over because their position on Crime and economy is weak

Having some Democrats saying they will rather pay $15 for Gas and double for grocery than lose Democracy/Abortion is not really a message many Americans stretched want to hear

Look at where Obama Biden Kamala are going to campaign in supposed safe Democratic space even Deep blue California. They are now spending money and TV ads to defend supposed safe areas and have abandoned places like North Carolina, Ms Beasly had to complain that the DNC abandoned her
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 6:07pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
Republican will take control of Congress thats almost certain

Senate is still dicey

Walker vs Warnock, Fetterman vs Oz, are very close. Same with Nevada race

Senator Johnson is likely to win Mandela Barnes, While I think Mark Kelly might defeat Blake Masters. And Odea to lose Colorado

Rubio to wipe the floor with Demmings and Kemp to edge out Stacey Abrams

Even unlikely races like Bolduc is getting close to Maggie Hassan. Zeldin is running close in New York
For the bolded, we will most likely know the winner of the Walker v Warnock race December 6 - the runoff election day.
But if Walker distances himself from Trump, he may eek out a win. I believe the reason why Kemp is running away with victory in the gubernatorial race is because he has called the bluff of Trump, causing voters to see him as an independent man capable of independent thought; while Walker's full embrace of Trump is one factor likely making his a toss up.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 6:11pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
Inflation and crime are their major thing. I believe they are the top 2 concern in the country now. See how the Mayor of San Francisco was disgraced because of his non prosecution policy for theft

In Oregon for example the governor race got competitive because of the crime rate and homelessness
New Yorkers feel the crime wave and are trending towards Zeldin

Democrats are playing defence all over because their position on Crime and economy is weak

Having some Democrats saying they will rather pay $15 for Gas and double for grocery than lose Democracy/Abortion is not really a message many Americans stretched want to hear

Look at where Obama Biden Kamala are going to campaign in supposed safe Democratic space even Deep blue California. They are now spending money and TV ads to defend supposed safe areas and have abandoned places like North Carolina, Ms Beasly had to complain that the DNC abandoned her
Since I've been following US politics, I never heard of Democrats fretting about a statewide race in New York of all places; a state Biden easily carried by double digits!

The bolded is truly a tough sell to non-Democrats, or should I say non-liberal Democrats.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 6:11pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
But most Republicans running in competitive races are mostly talking about crime rate. If I were in their shoes, I would continue hammering about inflation till election day.
---The economy and inflation should be the focus of the Republicans---no sitting administration can will an election if these two items are on the agenda---the Republicans have a good chance of winning back the congress next week---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:11pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
For the bolded, we will most likely know the winner of the Walker v Warnock race December 6 - the runoff election day.
But if Walker distances himself from Trump, he may eek out a win. I believe the reason why Kemp is running away with victory in the gubernatorial race is because he has called the bluff of Trump, causing voters to see him as an independent man capable of independent thought; while Walker's full embrace of Trump is one factor likely making his a toss up.
trump or no trump Georgia is a different case.

many people trump endorsed are doing well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:12pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
Since I've been following US politics, I never heard of Democrats fretting about a statewide race in New York of all places; a state Biden easily carried by double digits!

The bolded is truly a tough sell to non-Democrats, or should I say non-liberal Democrats.
the crime rate is too much to brush off this time. people are sick of the wokeness
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
budaatum:
Ouch!
They flushed the economy with money plus the trade wars and tariffs. They are now going to over-tighten and throw the economy into a recession. 2023 is going to be painful by the time the effect of the hikes take hold. Time would tell how hard the landing is going to be.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:19pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
For the bolded, we will most likely know the winner of the Walker v Warnock race December 6 - the runoff election day.
But if Walker distances himself from Trump, he may eek out a win. I believe the reason why Kemp is running away with victory in the gubernatorial race is because he has called the bluff of Trump, causing voters to see him as an independent man capable of independent thought; while Walker's full embrace of Trump is one factor likely making his a toss up.
Warnock vs Walker might go to runoff if the Libertarian candidate does not drop out

Why will Walker distance himself from Trump? The only GOP Senate candidate who did in Colorado is the one with the least chance of winning

The thing about distancing yourself from Trump is that the people you are trying to please the anti Trump Democrats will never vote for you regardless. So you lose Democrats and lose Trump followers

Trump called Blake Masters and told him to go hard, He should see Kari Lake as an example and Lake is leading Katie Hobbs in many polls
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:23pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy, benalvino

For example who is an anti Trump Republican say Liz Chenney or Kizzinger The Illinois congressman who declined to run.
If Liz contest against a Democrat who are the people who will vote for her? Will Democrats vote for her ? When she would have lost almost half of the GOP base who are loyal to Trump

If Say Cheney vs Kamala. Will Democrats leave Kamala to vote for Cheney? While she has ostracized a huge voting bloc loyal to Trump. So how does she hope to win

If you want to win an election you have to play the politics, you don't have to like Trump but going out there to blast him wont win you any favor
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:26pm On Nov 03, 2022
PDPGuy:
Since I've been following US politics, I never heard of Democrats fretting about a statewide race in New York of all places; a state Biden easily carried by double digits!

The bolded is truly a tough sell to non-Democrats, or should I say non-liberal Democrats.
Saying people should not worry even if Gas get to $15 only shows you are a very rich man and one of the few top people who can afford it

If everything comes down to it, your pocket will always win. When hunger enters everythng else flees. including abortion climate change
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:26pm On Nov 03, 2022
timay1:
Even Biden and the Democratic stalwarts won't even make such prediction.

Why do you think they've been blackmailing voters emotionally , come threats, just to get something. grin

Nothing spells panic among democrats than that Bidens speech yesterday. Man was literarily attacking the whole opposition party, in a Nigerian political style yesterday because they had nothing tangible to campaign with, just subtle threats, emotional blackmail, and smear campaign against opponents. You will think that it's a Nigerian election grin
It's only an ignorant simpleton living in the Amazon rain forest for the past two years to say something like this. Let's imagine the insurrectionists didn't ransack the Capitol, or white supremacists are not killing people with AR15s or marching throughout cities, or let's imagine there's no maga fans threatening officials, or trying to kill elected officials, or let's imagine there are no armed militia maga fools threatening voters and illegally monitoring ballot boxes, let's just imagine we didn't hear the rhetorics coming from election deniers about what they plan to do when they hold power, let's just imagine we didn't hear all these dangerous things- then you will be right but you know, what you wrote is full of bullshitting - the stuff you just wrote.
Don't be like the three monkeys - you close your eyes, cover your eyes and zipped your mouth. Only an idiot will say there's no threat to American democracy by criminal trump and his goons.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:32pm On Nov 03, 2022
budaatum:
Tell him a billion times and he will still believe Q. He still believes there is bamboo in his kraken and the pulled 2000 Mules book.

Evidence is always trumped by whatever alternative facts fit the narrative he has chosen to believe because a lot is very wrong with him.
The boy is long gone, he's lost forever in the maga dangerous conspiracy matrix. My fear is that he doesn't do something bad to people as the matrix is about dismantling and breaking down.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:36pm On Nov 03, 2022
feedthenation:
---The economy and inflation should be the focus of the Republicans---no sitting administration can will an election if these two items are on the agenda---the Republicans have a good chance of winning back the congress next week---
Inflation is not forever, Economies usually bounce back but a Woman's right to choose is a forever thing and it's inextricably linked to the Economy.
Americans are not fools, Democrats will hold the house but not by much.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:40pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
Republican will take control of Congress thats almost certain

Senate is still dicey

Walker vs Warnock, Fetterman vs Oz, are very close. Same with Nevada race

Senator Johnson is likely to win Mandela Barnes, While I think Mark Kelly might defeat Blake Masters. And Odea to lose Colorado

Rubio to wipe the floor with Demmings and Kemp to edge out Stacey Abrams

Even unlikely races like Bolduc is getting close to Maggie Hassan. Zeldin is running close in New York
You are still living in the Rasmussen polls bubble. I can't help but laugh grin

Maybe you haven't thought about threats to Social security, Medicare and Abortion healthcare and also the protection of Democracy. You also don't know about the youth turnout, and also compare the 2018 midterms to this one for history sake.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:42pm On Nov 03, 2022
Obrigardo:
You are still living in the Rasmussen polls bubble. I can't help but laugh grin

Maybe you haven't thought about threats to Social security, Medicare and Abortion healthcare and also the protection of Democracy. You also don't know about the youth turnout, and also compare the 2018 midterms to this one for history sake.
Make your own prediction of each key race and We will all be here by next Wednesday to see
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:42pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
PDPGuy, benalvino

For example who is an anti Trump Republican say Liz Chenney or Kizzinger The Illinois congressman who declined to run.
If Liz contest against a Democrat who are the people who will vote for her? Will Democrats vote for her ? When she would have lost almost half of the GOP base who are loyal to Trump

If Say Cheney vs Kamala. Will Democrats leave Kamala to vote for Cheney? While she has ostracized a huge voting bloc loyal to Trump. So how does she hope to win

If you want to win an election you have to play the politics, you don't have to like Trump but going out there to blast him wont win you any favor
supporting trump had to do with knowing how popular he is in your state before you go for him or against him. Liz learns the hard way. now she is running ads for dems vilifying republicans.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:44pm On Nov 03, 2022
benalvino3:
supporting trump had to do with knowing how popular he is in your state before you go for him or against him. Liz learns the hard way. now she is running ads for dems vilifying republicans.
Interested to see how her political future pans out.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:45pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
Interested to see how her political future pans out.
she is done
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:49pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
Make your own prediction of each key race and We will all be here by next Wednesday to see
Dems are winning Senate races in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio, Georgia and will be keeping the house.

Democrats will be camping on the voting lines on election day, you can bet on that. The numbers will destroy 2018 levels.

Also don't put up much right for election deniers and insurrectionists because they will be removed from office as it was done to Couy Griffin, remember him? The insurrectionist who won a county commissioner post but removed because he was an insurrectionist.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:52pm On Nov 03, 2022
Obrigardo:
Dems are winning Senate races in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Georgia and will be keeping the house.

Democrats will be camping on the voting lines on election day, you can bet on that. The numbers will destroy 2018 levels.
Okay we have 1 week
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:54pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
Okay we have 1 week
Oh no, we have five days to Roevember!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:57pm On Nov 03, 2022
benalvino3:
she is done
So the Democrats that are hailing her now will not even vote for her
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:01pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
So the Democrats that are hailing her now will not even vote for her
If she runs against a democrat they will call her a racist. the Media will remind republicans how she betrayed trump and her constituency.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 7:07pm On Nov 03, 2022
Letter Allegedly From Oath Keeper Founder To Donald Trump Read In Sedition Trial​ - Stewart Rhodes allegedly tried to covertly pass along the message several days after the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol.

---but why is it stated that 'Antifa' and 'BLM' are allegedly responsible for the J6 insurrection---

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:13pm On Nov 03, 2022
raumdeuter:
So the Democrats that are hailing her now will not even vote for her
they hail anything that stands against trump.

remember, they took ISIS leader's side over trump, they Took Sulemani's side over trump, even Kim's side over trump, Kim's Sister over Mike Pense
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:19pm On Nov 03, 2022
Obrigardo:
It's only an ignorant simpleton living in the Amazon rain forest for the past two years to say something like this. Let's imagine the insurrectionists didn't ransack the Capitol, or white supremacists are not killing people with AR15s or marching throughout cities, or let's imagine there's no maga fans threatening officials, or trying to kill elected officials, or let's imagine there are no armed militia maga fools threatening voters and illegally monitoring ballot boxes, let's just imagine we didn't hear the rhetorics coming from election deniers about what they plan to do when they hold power, let's just imagine we didn't hear all these dangerous things- then you will be right but you know, what you wrote is full of bullshitting - the stuff you just wrote.
Don't be like the three monkeys - you close your eyes, cover your eyes and zipped your mouth. Only an idiot will say there's no threat to American democracy by criminal trump and his goons.
Some people see it differently from you. More important issues to voters.

Literally the first thing Biden did was reduce the amount of energy available to Americans. He canceled completing the Keystone XL Pipeline which would have brought more Canadian oil. Soon thereafter, the administration threw up roadblocks to domestic oil production both offshore and on federal lands. First, they curtailed new leases and “reviewed” existing ones. Later, when they backed off from a complete ban, they instituted a virtual ban, which included increasing fees and other elements to make extraction more expensive for energy companies and everything more expensive for Americans.

Next, his administration propelled mandates for the untested vaccine that swept across the country, forcing severe post-lockdown restrictions on Americans covering travel, shopping, employment, and more. Nationwide tens of thousands of firemen, police, teachers, and even Navy SEALS lost their jobs and incomes because of vaccine mandates for a virus with a survival rate of above 99.9% for almost everyone.

Building on that lunacy, the Biden CDC recently issued a recommendation that states require Covid vaccinations for school children even though the survival rate for ages 0-19 is 99.9997%. So, this administration would have seventy-five million American children vaccinated with a medicine that has had no long-term testing, making the long-term effects, by definition, unknown. This is part and parcel for an administration with so little regard for children that it supports the castration and mutilation of children who are not old enough to vote or to drive, often without the knowledge or consent of their parents.

Then, of course, there is the economy. With the American Rescue Plan and Inflation Reduction Act, Biden poured trillions of dollars into the economy and drove inflation to levels not seen in 40 years. Everything, from energy to housing to food to clothing…virtually every single thing Americans use has gone up in price since Biden became president, often by giant leaps. As a consequence, Americans are fighting to stay afloat financially, with 60% worse off than they were a year ago and a staggering 40% of businesses missing missing their rent payments in October.

As if making Americans less prosperous wasn’t enough, Joe Biden has made the world less safe. In August 2021, the Pentagon exited Afghanistan in such haste that it left behind literally tens of billions of dollars of weapons for the terrorists now running the country to use as they please. Not content to arm one just one terrorist government, the administration pushed to reopen negotiations on the Iran nuclear deal. Then there is Russia and Ukraine. Early on in the conflict, when the sides were close to an agreement to cease hostilities, Biden sent his puppet, Boris Johnson, to scuttle the negotiations and, as a result, the world is the closest it has been to nuclear war since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:20pm On Nov 03, 2022
Elon Musk is really serving AOC

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:00pm On Nov 03, 2022
48% of voters said they would definitely or probably vote for Fetterman.
44% said they would definitely or probably back Oz.

- Monmouth.
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