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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
komekn:
When a player signs for a Championship side straight from non- league for a fee that with add-ons reaching close to £2milion .

A fee that matched his pedigree as the best striker in non- league. Anybody seeing his performances would know he was going to make it big.

At that time he was like Hussain Bolt, the fastest player white English player anybody had seen. Everybody knew he was going to make it, including the birds in the sky. Just didn't know he would be a top EPL goal scorer and win the Premier league title with then lowly Leicester city.

I am talking substantive facts and objectivity and you are talking irrational emotive assumption.

You can not in any way �, shape or form compare Nwakali and Vardy career. It's like comparing darkness to light.

Non- league is on my opinion one of the most difficult League to come out of. The football is blood and guts kick rush and due. If you don't get your leg broken you count yourself blessed. It's very difficult to play technical on the deck quality football.

The pitches are atrocious

U no go he hearword.

Usain bolt in Conference League.

Jamie Vardy at Kelechi Nwakali's age was playing in the Conference League. From your calculation, if Kelechi Nwakali at 24 in the Segunda in Spain it is game over, Jamie Vardy playing Conference League at that same age should have committed suicide.

If Vardy could go from Conference League at 24 to become an EPL Superstar, then your Express leaving theory is totally false. Kelechi Nwakali can still pull it off if Vardy could at 24.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:04pm On Nov 10, 2022
komekn:
When a player signs for a Championship side straight from non- league for a fee that with add-ons reaching close to £2milion .

A fee that matched his pedigree as the best striker in non- league. Anybody seeing his performances would know he was going to make it big.

At that time he was like Hussain Bolt, the fastest player white English player anybody had seen. Everybody knew he was going to make it, including the birds in the sky. Just didn't know he would be a top EPL goal scorer and win the Premier league title with then lowly Leicester city.

I am talking substantive facts and objectivity and you are talking irrational emotive assumption.

You can not in any way �, shape or form compare Nwakali and Vardy career. It's like comparing darkness to light.

Non- league is on my opinion one of the most difficult League to come out of. The football is blood and guts kick rush and dye. If you don't get your leg broken you count yourself blessed. It's very difficult to play technical on the deck quality football.But you f your do and or can, you will stand out.

The pitches are atrocious

U no go he hearword.

Stop shifting goal post.

You were trying to make it look like Segunda at 24 is career over. However, Jamie Vardy at 24 was in Conference league and still became a phenomenal EPL player.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:07pm On Nov 10, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
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Cameroonian Defender, Michael Ngadeu-Ngadjui says,

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To be honest, if you were a coach, will you invite a hungry lion to follow you on a team bus to a match? Mbok, the coach wants to see his grandchildren grow up.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by dankorode(m): 7:19pm On Nov 10, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

To be honest, if you were a coach, will you invite a hungry lion to follow you on a team bus to a match? Mbok, the coach wants to see his grandchildren grow up.
cheesy
hahahaha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:23pm On Nov 10, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

To be honest, if you were a coach, will you invite a hungry lion to follow you on a team bus to a match? Mbok, the coach wants to see his grandchildren grow up.
cheesy
grin grin grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Hanibal(m): 7:53pm On Nov 10, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

Stop shifting goal post.

You were trying to make it look like Segunda at 24 is career over. However, Jamie Vardy at 24 was in Conference league and still became a phenomenal EPL player.

Finito.
Baba wait a minute, are you sure the English conference league is not above the Spanish segunda in quality?
Don't just assume, with Komekn league rankings is a very dicey business.
So ask!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:57pm On Nov 10, 2022
Rivers United highlights. The did their thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZtAVpu7bs
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:12pm On Nov 10, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

Usain bolt in Conference League.

Jamie Vardy at Kelechi Nwakali's age was playing in the Conference League. From your calculation, if Kelechi Nwakali at 24 in the Segunda in Spain is game over, Jamie Vardy playing Conference League at that same age should have committed suicide.

If Vardy could go from Conference League at 24 to become an EPL Superstar, then your Express leaving theory is totally false. Kelechi Nwakali can still pull it off if Vardy could at 24.

Finito.
Once again your trying to compare the incomparable.

You are so irrational and sentiment based it beggars belief. You are trying to justify what CANNOT be justified.

From the moment Jamie Vardy left Sheffield Wednesday academy at 16 years of age.

Then went to Non league to fight his way up , he has been on a continuous upward progression. Culminating him joining Liecester City from non- league the rest as they say is history .

From the time Nwakali has left the U17 National youth team. He has been on a consistent continuous downward spiral there has been no PROGRESSION after 7 years.

He has gone through countless rejections and indignities , rejected by Arsenal, not considered good enough for Eredivise, Eerste Divisie, couldn't even get into Porto B, rejected at Huesca and contract prematurely terminated, now in a relegation bankruptcy struggling team in poor quality Segunda division.

Football is short term career Dude has had numerous almost too many opportunities but has always FAILED to impress.

You CANNOT turn daylight into darkness with your misrepresentations.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:54pm On Nov 10, 2022
Tammy, Tomori and Eze no make England squad. Interesting.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Afunleshin26: 9:00pm On Nov 10, 2022
BascoVanVeli:
Rivers United highlights. The did their thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZtAVpu7bs
Rivers United is very solid. What is the name of their coach?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:18pm On Nov 10, 2022
This player didn’t get picked over Maguire coady or Eric dier

Maybe this is the reason why English players don’t like to play abroad

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:23pm On Nov 10, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
That guy should just have continued with Canada at least. He would have been a mainstay for them at this WC.
These dual nationality players need to understand that they aren't a priority for England unless they are very good enough... Thats a bias people like Komekn won't want to admit..
How did Conor Gallagher make the list ahead of Eze? Eze has been better than him this season...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:42pm On Nov 10, 2022
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Luckysbab: 10:17pm On Nov 10, 2022
[quote author=BascoVanVeli post=118265091][/quote]Thank you. Had to be home based players. The inexperience/non-exposure to the big stage was too glaring.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:59pm On Nov 10, 2022
Afunleshin26:
Rivers United is very solid. What is the name of their coach?
Stanley Egunma but he also has Fatai Osho as an assistant. Fatai actually stopped Rivers United from making the group stage when he was with Enyimba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 12:41am On Nov 11, 2022
Danielnino00:
These dual nationality players need to understand that they aren't a priority for England unless they are very good enough... Thats a bias people like Komekn won't want to admit..
How did Conor Gallagher make the list ahead of Eze? Eze has been better than him this season...
But Dan, for the most part of this year, Gallagher beats Eze hands down. Recall both were in the same CP team were Gallagher was the SBD out performer for CP while on loan. Chelsea is just a bigger team than CP which has limited Gallagher's game time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:18am On Nov 11, 2022
komekn:
Once again your trying to compare the incomparable.

You are so irrational and sentiment based it beggars belief. You are trying to justify what CANNOT be justified.

From the moment Jamie Vardy left Sheffield Wednesday academy at 16 years of age.

Then went to Non league to fight his way up , he has been on a continuous upward progression. Culminating him joining Liecester City from non- league the rest as they say is history .

From the time Nwakali has left the U17 National youth team. He has been on a consistent continuous downward spiral there has been no PROGRESSION after 7 years.

He has gone through countless rejections and indignities , rejected by Arsenal, not considered good enough for Eredivise, Eerste Divisie, couldn't even get into Porto B, rejected at Huesca and contract prematurely terminated, now in a relegation bankruptcy struggling team in poor quality Segunda division.

Football is short term career Dude has had numerous almost too many opportunities but has always FAILED to impress.

You CANNOT turn daylight into darkness with your misrepresentations.
Whether fight up or fight down in the past is not the point. Past is past. The point is too basic.

At 24, a talented Vardy was in the Conference League. A brilliant talent but his mates at 18, 19 etc had already broken into the EPL and were stars.

Vardy from there fought his way up and still became a Superstar.

Kelechi Nwakali, at 24 is already in the Segunda, higher than Vardy who was in a conference league at that age.

Simple. From here, Kelechi Nwakali needs to fight his way up. If Vardy could pull it off, he can, if he applies himself. He has the talent and intellect. He needs to keep pushing.

So why is it biting you? Players like Osimhen and Sadiq who you wished to fail, despite your negativity, still pushed and will keep rising. Nwakali, despite your negativity can keep rising.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:26am On Nov 11, 2022
Hanibal:
Baba wait a minute, are you sure the English conference league is not above the Spanish segunda in quality?
Don't just assume, with Komekn league rankings is a very dicey business.
So ask!

Even komekn in this case knows you can not in anyway compare Conference (Natioanl) League to the segunda.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:39am On Nov 11, 2022
Danielnino00:
These dual nationality players need to understand that they aren't a priority for England unless they are very good enough... Thats a bias people like Komekn won't want to admit..
How did Conor Gallagher make the list ahead of Eze? Eze has been better than him this season...
Very simple unconscious bias and conscious preference in general a non offensive and politically palatable term for RACISM.

Racism is endemic, long standing historical yet continuous and ingrained INSTITUTIONAL.

This is what happens for black people in every endeavour across the UK without FAIL.

I could give you a thousand plus instance's I know as well as personal examples.

Welcome to WONDERFUL life in the UK.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 7:44am On Nov 11, 2022
Harry McG. made the list grin
Fikayo Tomori didn’t make the list grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:47am On Nov 11, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
But Dan, for the most part of this year, Gallagher beats Eze hands down. Recall both were in the same CP team were Gallagher was the SBD out performer for CP while on loan. Chelsea is just a bigger team than CP which has limited Gallagher's game time.
Actually the work rate of Gallagher is phenomenal and when it comes to defensive play , think Gallagher shades Eze. That work rate may see Gallagher creating more attacking opportunities. Although there is racial bias ,I still think Gallagher gives you more options in my opinion.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 7:54am On Nov 11, 2022
andrewbaba44:
This player didn’t get picked over Maguire coady or Eric dier

Maybe this is the reason why English players don’t like to play abroad
I doubt he played in the Euros too undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:32am On Nov 11, 2022
yinkeys:
Harry McG. made the list grin
Fikayo Tomori didn’t make the list grin
Harry M, is the coach favourite and he is white, he should not really be in the team .

Unfortunately England has several options in Defence nonetheless you cannot get away from Racial bias.

In addition it's widely believed that Seria A is not as competitive as the EPL. And unless you are doing it in EPL you may be over looked. Add to that Racial bias.

Because I don't see how you can take Harry Maguire, Ben White and Conor Coady over Fikayo Tomori, It doesn't add up for me. The only CB with pace is Walker the rest are going to get whipped by fast and tricky forward players.

Tyrone Mings, Fikayo Tomori and Marc Guehi, Chris Smallings are black and they are all better than out of form and slow Harry Maguire, Ben White ,Eric Dia and Arguably Stones.

Surprised to see Luke Shaw as LB he has not been outstanding, I don't think he is better than Ryan Ssegnon of Tottenham.

Can't say argue about the forward player selection, but feel there should have been room for Ivan Toney, Jack Grealish, Maddison are not better than him including Callum Wilson.

The midfield is open to many questions and options and Henderson has experience and a calming influence, l think Kalvin Philips coming back from injury and no form could be a risk.

Tega , Calvert Lewin, Ollie Watkins are not in form and have not performed, they should not be going.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:01am On Nov 11, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

Even komekn in this case knows you can not in anyway compare Conference (Natioanl) League to the segunda.
Let's try , highest paid players in the national League are on £4k a week, there are some on £7k a week. Admittedly these are exceptions.

So your assertion you cannot in any way shape or form compare the two league.

I've made it clear the majority of the teams in the Segundo division will struggle in league Two And on average most in the lower percentile of the Segundo will fall into the national League.

I have already gone into depth about the quality of players. I will reiterate Wolves U21 played Villarreal B and got narrowly beaten 2-1.

I watched a few weeks ago maybe more Liverpool FC U21 flog Wolves U21, 5-0.

I then said that no U21 EPL side can beat a league one team , and predicted that Liverpool FC U21 would he beaten in the cup by Accrington Stanley, well they did get beat 3-2.

I watched Sheffield Wednesday hold Southampton to a 2-2 draw and loose on penalties, actually it was forgotten man ♂️ Dominic Iorfa who lost the crucial penalty.

Sheffield Wednesday are in league one and Dominic Iorfa is on £10k a week. He is not the highest paid player.

Watched Sheffield Wednesday get beat on penalties by Southampton after a draw in a cup game. They are not on the same level as Southampton but they held their own.

What do you think would happen to Ponferradina FC if they played Southampton FC or that's unfair Maybe they should play the U21❓
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 10:04am On Nov 11, 2022
What club does @komekn support undecided?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:07am On Nov 11, 2022
Andrew have you seen our squad list? It is now or never. By the way, I wonder what Otamendi is still doing there. I don't like that guy angry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:08am On Nov 11, 2022
komekn:
Let's try , highest paid players in the national League are on £4k a week, there are some on £7k a week. Admittedly these are exceptions.

So your assertion you cannot in any way shape or form compare the two league.

I've made it clear the majority of the teams in the Segundo division will struggle in league Two And on average most in the lower percentile of the Segundo will fall into the national League.

I have already gone into depth about the quality of players. I will reiterate Wolves U21 played Villarreal B and got narrowly beaten 2-1.

I watched a few weeks ago maybe more Liverpool FC U21 flog Wolves U21, 5-0.

I then said that no U21 EPL side can beat a league one team , and predicted that Liverpool FC U21 would he beaten in the cup by Accrington Stanley, well they did get beat 3-2.

I watched Sheffield Wednesday hold Southampton to a 2-2 draw and loose on penalties, actually it was forgotten man ♂️ Dominic Iorfa who lost the crucial penalty.

Sheffield Wednesday are in league one and Dominic Iorfa is on £10k a week. He is not the highest paid player.

Watched Sheffield Wednesday get beat on penalties by Southampton after a draw in a cup game. They are not on the same level as Southampton but they held their own.

What do you think would happen to Ponferradina FC if they played Southampton FC or that's unfair Maybe they should play the U21❓
You are just talking. Can't use that narrow glasses to judge teams. We have seen teams get promoted from the Segunda division and play some brilliant games against La Liga sides. In recent memory, I remember when Las Palmas got promoted and gave top teams a run for their money.

You can not say because this narrowly drew, so the league is the same. Most of those non league players can not come outside England.

Let Wolves main team go and play Villarreal B and you will see a tough match. Heck, there is what they call park bus in football that can help mediocre teams have decent results against quality sides. It does not equate them.

Sterling earns far more than Julian Alvarez but it does not make him a better player. So using wages to judge quality means you lack a basic understanding of what football quality is really about.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
komekn:
Let's try , highest paid players in the national League are on £4k a week, there are some on £7k a week. Admittedly these are exceptions.

So your assertion you cannot in any way shape or form compare the two league.

I've made it clear the majority of the teams in the Segundo division will struggle in league Two And on average most in the lower percentile of the Segundo will fall into the national League.

I have already gone into depth about the quality of players. I will reiterate Wolves U21 played Villarreal B and got narrowly beaten 2-1.

I watched a few weeks ago maybe more Liverpool FC U21 flog Wolves U21, 5-0.

I then said that no U21 EPL side can beat a league one team , and predicted that Liverpool FC U21 would he beaten in the cup by Accrington Stanley, well they did get beat 3-2.

I watched Sheffield Wednesday hold Southampton to a 2-2 draw and loose on penalties, actually it was forgotten man ♂️ Dominic Iorfa who lost the crucial penalty.

Sheffield Wednesday are in league one and Dominic Iorfa is on £10k a week. He is not the highest paid player.

Watched Sheffield Wednesday get beat on penalties by Southampton after a draw in a cup game. They are not on the same level as Southampton but they held their own.

What do you think would happen to Ponferradina FC if they played Southampton FC or that's unfair Maybe they should play the U21❓
England is literally borrowing knowledge from the development framework of Spain. It is now England is trying, Dominic Iorfa for instance can stay king in England. Let him go to Spain and let us see how tactically sound he is.

England literally did not know how to play ball until the turn of Guardiola and your here talking this one won, and this one loss. Like if football is Kalo Kalo.

Leave that talk, you can't compare League two to Segunda.

All you will say is kick and rush because they can't play ball. They are freaking untactful players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
komekn:
Let's try , highest paid players in the national League are on £4k a week, there are some on £7k a week. Admittedly these are exceptions.

So your assertion you cannot in any way shape or form compare the two league.

I've made it clear the majority of the teams in the Segundo division will struggle in league Two And on average most in the lower percentile of the Segundo will fall into the national League.

I have already gone into depth about the quality of players. I will reiterate Wolves U21 played Villarreal B and got narrowly beaten 2-1.

I watched a few weeks ago maybe more Liverpool FC U21 flog Wolves U21, 5-0.

I then said that no U21 EPL side can beat a league one team , and predicted that Liverpool FC U21 would he beaten in the cup by Accrington Stanley, well they did get beat 3-2.

I watched Sheffield Wednesday hold Southampton to a 2-2 draw and loose on penalties, actually it was forgotten man ♂️ Dominic Iorfa who lost the crucial penalty.

Sheffield Wednesday are in league one and Dominic Iorfa is on £10k a week. He is not the highest paid player.

Watched Sheffield Wednesday get beat on penalties by Southampton after a draw in a cup game. They are not on the same level as Southampton but they held their own.

What do you think would happen to Ponferradina FC if they played Southampton FC or that's unfair Maybe they should play the U21❓


I believe your League two players were earning more than Julian Alvarez. He comes into the EPL, and he is doing fantastic. None of your high earning League two or League one, or Championship players can deliver in such capacity. But, you will say because Championship earn more, they are the better league. See logic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
komekn:
Let's try , highest paid players in the national League are on £4k a week, there are some on £7k a week. Admittedly these are exceptions.

So your assertion you cannot in any way shape or form compare the two league.

I've made it clear the majority of the teams in the Segundo division will struggle in league Two And on average most in the lower percentile of the Segundo will fall into the national League.

I have already gone into depth about the quality of players. I will reiterate Wolves U21 played Villarreal B and got narrowly beaten 2-1.

I watched a few weeks ago maybe more Liverpool FC U21 flog Wolves U21, 5-0.

I then said that no U21 EPL side can beat a league one team , and predicted that Liverpool FC U21 would he beaten in the cup by Accrington Stanley, well they did get beat 3-2.

I watched Sheffield Wednesday hold Southampton to a 2-2 draw and loose on penalties, actually it was forgotten man ♂️ Dominic Iorfa who lost the crucial penalty.

Sheffield Wednesday are in league one and Dominic Iorfa is on £10k a week. He is not the highest paid player.

Watched Sheffield Wednesday get beat on penalties by Southampton after a draw in a cup game. They are not on the same level as Southampton but they held their own.

What do you think would happen to Ponferradina FC if they played Southampton FC or that's unfair Maybe they should play the U21❓

In 2013, Manchester City went on a tour to South Africa. SuperSport United and Amazulu beat a quality Manchester City team. To the best of my knowledge, we went on to win the Premier League that season in splendid fashion. Does that mean that South African league is the same quality as the Premier League?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:58am On Nov 11, 2022
komekn:
Actually the work rate of Gallagher is phenomenal and when it comes to defensive play , think Gallagher shades Eze. That work rate may see Gallagher creating more attacking opportunities. Although there is racial bias ,I still think Gallagher gives you more options in my opinion.
Gallagher is more complete than eze. Off the ball eze looks lazy and clumsy to me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Afunleshin26: 11:25am On Nov 11, 2022
BascoVanVeli:
Stanley Egunma but he also has Fatai Osho as an assistant. Fatai actually stopped Rivers United from making the group stage when he was with Enyimba.
Ooh Stanley Egunma is an old horse in the league. Nice one. He seems to have regain his mojo. Maybe cos of availability of funds and good players at his disposal.
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