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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 11:49pm On Nov 14, 2022
adamusuleiman1:
George W. Bush and Barack Obama will hold back-to-back disinformation conferences following Trump's 'big announcement' on Tuesday.
Hmmm. Obama and a RiNO (according to MAGAts).
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 12:08am On Nov 15, 2022
SlyFoxx4Life:
Because Trump is going to live forever abi? LMAO. The fact you think an almost 200 year old party is going to end because of one aging man is completely asinine.

At most Trump has 2-6 more years as an influential player in Republican politics depending on if he wins the next election or not. Because if he fails to secure the presidency in 2024 that’s basically the end of his career. Even if he wins he would be term limited in 2028. By then he would be well into his 80’s and even his most die hard supporters would acknowledge it’s time to move on.

Then I really want to see what all the Trump obsessed liberals on this thread would do with their lives. A big part of their essence on this earth would be gone. LMAO.
I wanted to reply this post comprehensively and point to how young people who hold the future and voting power are actually leaning towards left than right, thanks to the republicans selling their future to trump and his idiotic type politics. And how a lot of them will stay left even after the stain of trump.

But after going through your posts on this thread, I don't think you are worth the effort.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SlyFoxx4Life: 12:54am On Nov 15, 2022
ribbit:
I wanted to reply this post comprehensively and point to how young people who hold the future and voting power are actually leaning towards left than right, thanks to the republicans selling their future to trump and his idiotic type politics. And how a lot of them will stay left even after the stain of trump.

But after going through your posts on this thread, I don't think you are worth the effort.
1. Lol taking a personal jab at me will be your biggest mistake so don’t even go there. Stay in your lane before I put you in your place.

2. Young people are always liberal but typically become more conservative with age and responsibility like jobs, marriage, children etc. so that’s not an indication of anything. Believe it or not I myself used to be very liberal in my teens and early 20’s

3. Trumps style of politics will go with Trump. His biggest problem was his personality NOT his policies. His politics were actually very popular. You dumb liberals basing your entire strategy on him and saying absolutely daft things like “he will stain the party forever” is the honestly just laughable if not pitiable.

Once we nominate a person like DeSantis who has identical policies but with a more refined personality and less baggage it is over for you liberals. Hot tears are on the way so enjoy your Pyrrhic “victory” in this midterms.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
texazzpete:
This makes no sense. Exit polls confirmed that for a LOT of voters, Abortion was the key issue. Also, that brought out the youth vote for the dems.

Most serious conservatives are doing soul-searching and trying to come up with a rational plan forward to restore faith in the party's plans. You are still stuck in the meme posting stage cheesy
This should worry any right thinking and God-fearing person on planet earth. Moral decadence, abortion-loving youths, LGBTQ+, pedophiles, evil people, murderers, etc has now become the lot of the youths of tomorrow in America? All these evils for the sake of "enjoying" the transient pleasures these bring?

Demonrats should be ashamed of themselves and what they have turned a once thriving country into. And on the flip side, and this is what I believe played out during this charade of an election, this midterm election was rigged!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:04am On Nov 15, 2022
adamusuleiman1:
George W. Bush and Barack Obama will hold back-to-back disinformation conferences following Trump's 'big announcement' on Tuesday.
These are all the indicators right thinking persons need to conclude that this past election was rigged by the corrupt establishment politicians all over the country! Why do I think this has all of the hallmarks of sore loser RINOs and Demonrats - the likes of Lizzy the lizard Cheney, "cryin" Kinzinger, failed politicians etc?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 1:23am On Nov 15, 2022
ono:
This should worry any right thinking and God-fearing person on planet earth. Moral decadence, abortion-loving youths, LGBTQ+, pedophiles, evil people, murderers, etc has now become the lot of the youths of tomorrow in America? All these evils for the sake of "enjoying" the transient pleasures these bring?

Demonrats should be ashamed of themselves and what they have turned a once thriving country into. And on the flip side, and this is what I believe played out during this charade of an election, this midterm election was rigged!
You just described one country like that in Africa.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SlyFoxx4Life: 1:36am On Nov 15, 2022
ribbit:
I wanted to reply this post comprehensively and point to how young people who hold the future and voting power are actually leaning towards left than right, thanks to the republicans selling their future to trump and his idiotic type politics. And how a lot of them will stay left even after the stain of trump.

But after going through your posts on this thread, I don't think you are worth the effort.
FYI

The idea that you think 10 years from now a Gen Z person who is getting hammered by the realities of life; crime, inflation and struggling to pay his bills because of democrat policies would be saying “gosh I really want to vote Republican but Trump!!!!” Just shows the extent of your political ineptitude.

You libs better start thinking of a strategy that would make people vote FOR you and not always looking for a way to make them vote AGAINST your opponent. You will not have Trump as your bogeyman for much longer.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 2:03am On Nov 15, 2022
SlyFoxx4Life:
1. Lol taking a personal jab at me will be your biggest mistake so don’t even go there. Stay in your lane before I put you in your place.

2. Young people are always liberal but typically become more conservative with age and responsibility like jobs, marriage, children etc. so that’s not an indication of anything. Believe it or not I myself used to be very liberal in my teens and early 20’s

3. Trumps style of politics will go with Trump. His biggest problem was his personality NOT his policies. His politics were actually very popular. You dumb liberals basing your entire strategy on him and saying absolutely daft things like “he will stain the party forever” is the honestly just laughable if not pitiable.

Once we nominate a person like DeSantis who has identical policies but with a more refined personality and less baggage it is over for you liberals. Hot tears are on the way so enjoy your Pyrrhic “victory” in this midterms.
hahaha put me in my place? Ha I laugh. This nigga overating himself. grin
I'm literally giggling.

Okay lemme waste small time on you even though I currently don't have time for American politics.


Being liberal or conservative is an ideology. It has nothing to do with the actual parties. Party Ideology will change over time.
The current conservative ideology is "family value". A man and woman and their children. Mostly rooted in religious munbo jumbo. Future conservative could be man and man, woman and woman with their surrogate or adopted children, who knows?

The whole idea of conservation is about enjoying the spoils of wars the liberals fought and won.
Liberate and conserve.
Both parties learn to adapt over time.

It could be the republicans championing this ideology of gay family or going green In the future just to stay relevaant. Like slavery used to be democrats thing and republicans were actually more of the liberals in ideology then.

The more republicans vote dwindles, the more open they will be to new ideologies.

For now, republican as a party is being hurt because of the type of politics that brought a loonatic like trump or even bush (atleast bush is not as crazy) They have not won popular votes in years and I don't see that changing anytime soon based on the current trajectory. And you honestly believe that de Santis, another loony in disguise will suddenly be the magic wand that will make republicans become acceptable again after the damage trump has done and continues to do? Haaaa I laugh in Chinese.

Do republicans even tell you they want to do away with trump?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
Obrigardo:
The Criminal knows how to fail a lot. Is he tired of "all the winning"? Lol
Spoke with my cousin in Atlanta just now. He said he would be voting for Warnock again in the runnoff, and would be mobilizing more people at his office and neighbourhood...his reason was that the guy is a wacko and also a Trump man. No wonder the Republicans in Georgia are trying to keep Trump away Lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 2:09am On Nov 15, 2022
SlyFoxx4Life:
FYI

The idea that you think 10 years from now a Gen Z person who is getting hammered by the realities of life; crime, inflation and struggling to pay his bills because of democrat policies would be saying “gosh I really want to vote Republican but Trump!!!!” Just shows the extent of your political ineptitude.

You libs better start thinking of a strategy that would make people vote FOR you and not always looking for a way to make them vote AGAINST your opponent. You will not have Trump as your bogeyman for much longer.
some of the the so called gen z control major American economy through tech and entertainment more than some poorly educated redneck farmers from redstates.

Keep telling yourself crap to make yourself feel mature and important.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SlyFoxx4Life: 2:41am On Nov 15, 2022
ribbit:
some of the the so called gen z control major American economy through tech and entertainment more than some poorly educated redneck farmers from redstates.

Keep telling yourself crap to make yourself feel mature and important.
Lol you don’t seem to get the concept that peoples voting habits change as they age and their circumstances change do you? for you to convince yourself that Gen Z will remain solidly democrat through their 30’s and 40’s is a level of delusion I have never seen before. And for you to convince yourself Trump will still be a major issue on voters minds in even 5 years from now is not even worth my time rebutting.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SlyFoxx4Life: 3:10am On Nov 15, 2022
ribbit:
hahaha put me in my place? Ha I laugh. This nigga overating himself. grin
I'm literally giggling.

Okay lemme waste small time on you even though I currently don't have time for American politics.


Being liberal or conservative is an ideology. It has nothing to do with the actual parties. Party Ideology will change over time.
The current conservative ideology is "family value". A man and woman and their children. Mostly rooted in religious munbo jumbo. Future conservative could be man and man, woman and woman with their surrogate or adopted children, who knows?

The whole idea of conservation is about enjoying the spoils of wars the liberals fought and won.
Liberate and conserve.
Both parties learn to adapt over time.

It could be the republicans championing this ideology of gay family or going green In the future just to stay relevaant. Like slavery used to be democrats thing and republicans were actually more of the liberals in ideology then.

The more republicans vote dwindles, the more open they will be to new ideologies.

For now, republican as a party is being hurt because of the type of politics that brought a loonatic like trump or even bush (atleast bush is not as crazy) They have not won popular votes in years and I don't see that changing anytime soon based on the current trajectory. And you honestly believe that de Santis, another loony in disguise will suddenly be the magic wand that will make republicans become acceptable again after the damage trump has done and continues to do? Haaaa I laugh in Chinese.

Do republicans even tell you they want to do away with trump?
Now I am suddenly worth your time abi? See epistle lol. This your post is honestly incoherent and completely unrelated to the topic at hand. You just throwing out random musings that barely have anything to do with the topic at hand.

For as long as it has mattered and for the foreseeable future the Republican Party will be aligned with a conservative ideology and the democrats with a liberal ideology. The democrats are getting more radically liberal these days and save for the abortion issue that brought out single women in droves this midterms they would have lost handily trust me. It had little with so with Trump hurting the party as you liberals like to believe.

The republicans actually picked up seats in deep blue New York and former swing state Florida was a total rout! The republicans won the popular vote in the congressional election which is a little reported fact of these midterms. The party is far from finished as you think.

Even the Gen Z that you’re making noise about you only won 60%. A whole 40% of the dumbest, most impressionable and liberal voting block still voted for REPUBLICANS!! LMAO. Shouldn’t you be winning more like 80% of them? Baba this midterms was not as good for you people as you are thinking. Just one key issue (abortion) caused an aberration this time around. But mark my words as the economy worsens, inflation and crime rates shoot up, and Gen Z realized they were scammed on the debt forgiveness thing a lot will change by 2024

Your party is sooo useless that their ENTIRE strategy is based on using one man as a bogeyman. WTF kind of strategy is that? You are here hoping and praying that republicans stick to him for life LMAO. Now that you realize it’s a stupid strategy you call DeSantis a “Loonatic” (see spelling) looool.

Baba DeSantis is literally the most effective governor in America right now. The liberal media are scared shitting their pants about him and what he did in Florida now. Just go on MSNBC and see for yourself. He won Miami-Dade bro!!!! That’s the bluest district in The state that is like 80% Latina. Also republicans won a larger percentage of minority votes this midterms than ever. I repeat only one voting block saved you guys and it was single women because of abortion. I wouldn’t be feeling so confident if I was you.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 3:50am On Nov 15, 2022
Katie Hobbs wins Arizona’s governorship election!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
PDPGuy:
Katie Hobbs wins Arizona’s governorship election!
Another trump lackey, MAGAt and election denier bites the dust.

Unfortunately for the GOP and fortunately for the Dems, the MAGA wing of the GOP would still keep winning primary elections.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by adamusuleiman1: 5:22am On Nov 15, 2022
After our latest series of key race projections, Decision Desk HQ has called 217 U.S. House seats for Republicans- one shy of the number they need for a majority.

Follow more results here: results.decisiondeskhq.com
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:35am On Nov 15, 2022
Nevada Dems have won a supermajority in the legislative house to override any veto of the Republican governor elect.

In a Biden midterm Democrats gained a net of two governorship seats, congrats to Katie Hobbs.

The house will be a 1-2 seat GQP majority which can change at anytime with special elections that can favour either party if the elections are in swing districts.

A GQP 1-2 controlled house will be a circus, and it's because of New York Democrats and the Supreme Court that sided with Louisiana and Alabama to give the party an edge in gerrymandering. Despite the gerrymandering from the GQP their house majority in a midterm which was supposed to be a 230+ seats that should have favoured them is just a 1-2 seats circus majority. The Dems tried the election was not in their favour and they did well. A GQP controlled house will not do anything asides haunt Hunter Biden, it will only show voters that they are idiots that cannot govern with policies.

If dems do well in 2024 and New York Democrats get their house in order particularly with turnout which is likely in a presidential year they will control the house. The senate map is not friendly for Dems in 2024 but I have learnt not to make predictions because the electorate is changing(young voters can help swing seats). However a Democratic senate for now will help confirm liberal judges.
That's a win.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:39am On Nov 15, 2022
Biden's midterm is being compared to FDR and Kennedy.

Wow, when the Dem coalition come out they can win.

I am impressed the party flipped Michigan and Minnesota state legislatures. Won the house in Pennsylvania and did well in New Hampshire at the state level.


It may be too early to make this projection but given how genZ is turning away from the GQP gun control measures, climate change action and abortion codification is on the horizon in the coming years.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:41am On Nov 15, 2022
The icing on the cake for me is a SCOTUS opening kiss kiss kiss between now and 2024.

If Biden wins re-election still another SCOTUS opening on the horizon too.


grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:45am On Nov 15, 2022
Election wins like this in a midterm will only energise the Democratic coalition to do more.

You can see that already in Georgia, they are already targeting a Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin to flip the good thing about Trump's prrsidency is that it taught them how to vote in elections.

American Democracy will survive cool
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 5:48am On Nov 15, 2022
adamusuleiman1:
After our latest series of key race projections, Decision Desk HQ has called 217 U.S. House seats for Republicans- one shy of the number they need for a majority.

Follow more results here: results.decisiondeskhq.com
That's a bold call by decision desk. If the GOP, falls shot of the majority, then they would need to work with the Dems. Anyway, fingers crossed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:54am On Nov 15, 2022
saxywale2:
That's a bold call by decision desk. If the GOP, falls shot of the majority, then they would need to work with the Dems. Anyway, fingers crossed.
They are too fast and in election cycles they tend to rescind their calls.People are still curing ballots, No major network has called it but I see a GQP 1-2 seat majority, however it is a better results for the Democrats than 230+ seats because with Majorie Taylor Greene as the face of your party you are in trouble.

If they want to govern they will still need to work with the Dems because the majority is razor thin and can change at anytime but they don't want to govern.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:55am On Nov 15, 2022
This clown must get major screentime if GQP take the house, she is talking about a GQP civil war the way the GQP was painting the squad as dangerous the Democrats must borrow from their playbook and paint Majorie Taylor Greene the same way.

She is talking about a civil war in the GQP cheesy

*Grabs popcorn*

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 6:39am On Nov 15, 2022
According to a YouGov poll published on Saturday, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents prefer DeSantis (42%) over Trump (35%) as their 2024 Republican presidential nominee…
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:45am On Nov 15, 2022
House has GOP at 216 n Demonrats at 206. GOP only need two seats to take the house. Nancy Pelosi will lose the gavel.
The Jan 6 Committee will be disbanded.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by adamusuleiman1: 7:24am On Nov 15, 2022
PDPGuy:
According to a YouGov poll published on Saturday, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents prefer DeSantis (42%) over Trump (35%) as their 2024 Republican presidential nominee…

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Teaser4(m): 7:41am On Nov 15, 2022
basilico:
House has GOP at 216 n Demonrats at 206. GOP only need two seats to take the house. Nancy Pelosi will lose the gavel.
The Jan 6 Committee will be disbanded.
one more seat to go, according to Foxnews

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit:
SlyFoxx4Life:
Lol you don’t seem to get the concept that peoples voting habits change as they age and their circumstances change do you? for you to convince yourself that Gen Z will remain solidly democrat through their 30’s and 40’s is a level of delusion I have never seen before. And for you to convince yourself Trump will still be a major issue on voters minds in even 5 years from now is not even worth my time rebutting.
Again, stop confusing yourself.

People vote based on ideology and the party that believe best represents them at a time in America. policy (which I believe you are referring too) is an after thought. This is because it's easier to change a policy than an ideology.
A democrat state can decide to run republican policy if that is working for them and vice versa.

Policy is not rooted in party's ideology. It's can easily change based on the political view of the person running for office.

It's independent people that actually care more about policies than ideologies and that's why they are the ones deciding elections.


A Christian soilder brought up on some christian family value will not suddenly change his view or voting pattern as he gets older if democrats didn't change their some of their core ideology to carry him along.

A black gay teen with who is obsessed with climate change will not change his voting pattern because he is older.



Have you ever wondered why traditional deep blue states always stay blue and red states stay red until there is an actual ideological changes in those states?

If trump losing despite claiming that he has best economy since Ronald Reagan and this mid term with its rising inflation have not taught you anything, nothing will.


I believe this post addressed your other epistle.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:33am On Nov 15, 2022
saxywale2:
Spoke with my cousin in Atlanta just now. He said he would be voting for Warnock again in the runnoff, and would be mobilizing more people at his office and neighbourhood...his reason was that the guy is a wacko and also a Trump man. No wonder the Republicans in Georgia are trying to keep Trump away Lol.
Tell your cousin i love him. He's the best.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:34am On Nov 15, 2022
Katie Hobbs won. I'm so joyful i feel like crying cry grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Obrigardo:
Katie Hobbs won. I'm so joyful i feel like crying cry grin grin
Any particular reason other than she defeated a Trump endorsee?
Guys get a life.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:26am On Nov 15, 2022
basilico:
Any particular reason other than she defeated a Trump endorsee?
Guys get a life.
Yes, because kerry lake was an elction denier, a lunatic and a crazy bitch. All Criminal trump endorsees are losers. What's so special about a criminal trump endorsee you mr dodo? lol grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:28am On Nov 15, 2022
budaatum
Liz Cheney could become Speaker. What do you think about it?
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