₦airaland Forum

Bardo:
Go and find out the definition of annex, then come back to me with a better argument.

Annex: add (territory) to one's own territory by appropriation.

- Oxford English Dictionary

Quintopia:
Annex: add (territory) to one's own territory by appropriation.

- Oxford English Dictionary

Now answer, how is conducting a referendum now appropriation or you just want to be mischievous.

Them don scatter Naija delta b4 revealing thier oil

I think most of the basins in nigeria has oil. The north has been talking about autonomy too much recently.

Anyone who secedes now is on his own. Let’s stay together and chop the goodies from the north

Bardo:
Now answer, how is conducting a referendum now appropriation or you just want to be mischievous.

There is no provision for a 'referendum' to decide on secession, in the Nigerian constitution.

If Igbos wish to secede, their constitutional representatives must table a motion at the National Assembly, and they haven't done that.

And I don't blame them either. You see, when you're a leader, you see things from a very different perspective than a street thug high on mkpurumiri.

As a senator or house rep or governor, you're thinking ''what if we table a motion for secession, and the north says 'okay', and starts deporting all 11 million Igbos in the north back to the East? How do we handle such an influx? Such a humanitarian cataclysm? We can't even feed the ones there now. How will we handle 11 million from the north, and another 10 million from the west?''

''How do we secure the monies - billions of dollars - of Igbo investments across the federation, if we secede?''

These and many other questions are what make Igbo reps keep SILENT before the national assembly with regard to secession.

They know the idea is suicide.

And that the mkpurumiri brigade are far too thick to understand reality.

You are comparing that reserve with that of the Niger delta and even the middle East. You are far from the real starts.

Niger delta has close to 200trillion standard cubic feet of gas deposit and 35 billion barrels of crude proven reserve not to talk of the middle East figures.

Exploration going on in the frontier basin is good for the country, it will help bring about political solution to true federalism. The northern people and representative will now be eager to allow states have better grip on their economy and finance unlike the monthly stipend allocation going on now in the country.

You are exaggerating the find, it takes decades to grow reserve. It is a good thing this is happening.

ExudeLoveToAll:
You are comparing that little reserve with that of the Niger delta and even the middle East. You are far from the real starts.

Niger delta has o
close to 187trillion standard cubic feet of gas deposit and 35 billion barrels of crude not to talk of the middle East figures.

Exploration going on in the frontier basin is good for the country, it will help bring about political solution to true federalism. The northern people and representative will now be eager to allow states have better grip on their economy and finance unlike the monthly stipend allocation going on now in the country.

You are exaggerating the find, it takes decades to grow reserve.

Stop talking crap. What 'decades' does it take to ''grow reserves'', whatever the hell that means?

Ghana discovered oil and a couple years later was shipping oil all over the world. Same as Angola. How long did it take them to become top African producer? It doesn't take any 'decades' once you have financing, which there will be no lack of, since it's oil and gas.

And the finds are not 'exaggerated' at all. Finding a billion barrels of crude oil in a location usually suggests there is a lot MORE crude oil in the region that's yet to be discovered.

Quintopia:
Stop talking crap. What 'decades' does it take to ''grow reserves'', whatever the hell that means?

Ghana discovered oil and a couple years later was shipping oil all over the world. Same as Angola. How long did it take them to become top African producer? It doesn't take any 'decades' once you have financing, which there will be no lack of, since it's oil and gas.

And the finds are not 'exaggerated' at all. Finding a billion barrels of crude oil in a location usually suggests there is a lot MORE crude oil in the region that's yet to be discovered.

I Don't talk with emotions but facts it's better you do same than going low because I won't join you.there.

It takes decades to grow reserves.

What you don't know is that Angolar started exploration of oil and gas way before Nigeria , more than 100 years of exploration activities has gone on in Angolar. Their find oil find came way before ours, at about 1955. There years of civil war impeded the industry, they have over 9 billion barrels of crude proven reserve and about 11 trillion Scf of gas deposits. 2decades after 2002 when girassol finds of TOTALEnergies came on stream if my memory doesn't fail me.

Ghana jubilee finds 15years ago and others has made their reserve close to about 5 billion barrels of crude reserve and about 6 trillion Scf of gas deposits. It is already heading to 2 decades for the Ghana finds, may be you are thinking it's last year.

Growing reserves is different from growing production capacity. You can decide to grow your production capacity by doing development Wells which can come to completness in a short duration of time depending on the number of Wells you are doing.

In synopsis it takes time to grow reserve.

SpecialAdviser:
You people should stop falling for the scam oil discovery. When will you have brain for goodness sake?

People trying to win voters is what you are falling for. SHAME

You, what facts do you have that the crude oil discovery is a sham?

I don't know why good news about north makes you people uncomfortable.

Before tribe, religion and politicians divided us, we were first humans!

gare:
His business has folded up, no money to buy data, don't mind that shallow minded being, that never benefitted from APC government, instead the government crumbled his business, the capital to start the business he got it during PDP Era and he could not grow the business during APC time, I learnt he could not afford the rent, he may be on his way back home to the village.

No more darling daddy again


Last last darling daddy don cast

sonature1:
You, what facts do you have that the crude oil discovery is a sham?

I don't know why good news about north makes you people uncomfortable.

Before tribe, religion and politicians divided us, we were first humans!

I will be the happiest person to find out they discovered oil in the North but just wait the next 3 years and come back to me

Quintopia:
Over a Billion Barrels of Oil Found in Northern Nigeria, Buhari Says, as Drilling Starts

The president says the country also found 500 billion cubic feet of gas within the Kolmani area of Gombe and Bauchi, and has attracted $3 billion investment already.


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/566782-over-a-billion-barrels-of-oil-found-in-northern-nigeria-buhari-says-as-drilling-starts.html

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Meanwhile further exploration is ongoing, and there is talk of vast deposits of oil and gas that no one on Earth knew about residing in the north.

We're talking Saudi Arabia, UAE levels of oil and gas reserves, that can generate 4 to 5 million barrels a day, unlike our current 1 million barrels a day output from the Niger Delta.

I suspect these developments may dampen secessionist sentiments among many.

Who go see betta thing run?

Imagine seceding when Nigeria is about to turn to UAE and Dubai?

The secessionist does not care about the Oil a d gas in the North, West, South or East

What the secessionist cares about is independence from an unworkable Nigeria, and no amount of Oil can make Nigeria work, no amount of oil has Nigeria to work

If indeed the North has the amount of oil and gas they say it has, it will only make things worse because it will make the North want to dominate Nigeria even more than it has done

The north that has only one "proven" oil state has more oil reserves than the Niger Delta that has proven to be a top 5 oil reserves in the world for decades.?

I need to have what you people are smoking.

Quintopia:
There is no provision for a 'referendum' to decide on secession, in the Nigerian constitution.

If Igbos wish to secede, their constitutional representatives must table a motion at the National Assembly, and they haven't done that.

And I don't blame them either. You see, when you're a leader, you see things from a very different perspective than a street thug high on mkpurumiri.

As a senator or house rep or governor, you're thinking ''what if we table a motion for secession, and the north says 'okay', and starts deporting all 11 million Igbos in the north back to the East? How do we handle such an influx? Such a humanitarian cataclysm? We can't even feed the ones there now. How will we handle 11 million from the north, and another 10 million from the west?''

''How do we secure the monies - billions of dollars - of Igbo investments across the federation, if we secede?''

These and many other questions are what make Igbo reps keep SILENT before the national assembly with regard to secession.

They know the idea is suicide.

And that the mkpurumiri brigade are far too thick to understand reality.

This the thinking of someone who lives in the stoneage. Self determination, the right to choose if you want to be independent or remain with the country you are attached, is a universal right recignised in international law. It is that law that allowed nationalists like Zik, Awolowo, and others to fight for Nigerias independence from Britain

Did Britain deport any Nigerian before, during and after Nigerias independence? No

The so called 11 million Igbos going back to the East, most of them come back to the East every December anyway, not just from Nigeria, but all over the world. The East accmodates them with no problem

Igbos leaving Nigeria to go back home is a small price to pay for freedom and independence that others pay with their lives for

As for trying to move a motion in the national assembly to allow a referendum, that would be pointless. What the point of doing that when other parts of Nigeria will vote it out? Or is anyone deceiving themselves that the North and other parts of Nigeria will gladly vote for a bill that will break up Nigeria?

However, agitation is increasing every day, insecurity and porverty is rising and the economy is declining and something has to give soon. Nigeria is heading for disintegration and nobody can stop it

Quintopia:
There is no provision for a 'referendum' to decide on secession, in the Nigerian constitution.

If Igbos wish to secede, their constitutional representatives must table a motion at the National Assembly, and they haven't done that.

And I don't blame them either. You see, when you're a leader, you see things from a very different perspective than a street thug high on mkpurumiri.

As a senator or house rep or governor, you're thinking ''what if we table a motion for secession, and the north says 'okay', and starts deporting all 11 million Igbos in the north back to the East? How do we handle such an influx? Such a humanitarian cataclysm? We can't even feed the ones there now. How will we handle 11 million from the north, and another 10 million from the west?''

''How do we secure the monies - billions of dollars - of Igbo investments across the federation, if we secede?''

These and many other questions are what make Igbo reps keep SILENT before the national assembly with regard to secession.

They know the idea is suicide.

And that the mkpurumiri brigade are far too thick to understand reality.

Lol 11 million from the north 10 million from the west and 50 million from the south.
Is it not shameful to you that you opened this thread to beg for unity? Igbos fought a war and ready to fight another one to leave Nigeria and you think discovering oil in the North is what it will take to dampen calls for secession. Lol. As someone said up there...you know nothing about igbos

Quintopia:
Over a Billion Barrels of Oil Found in Northern Nigeria, Buhari Says, as Drilling Starts

The president says the country also found 500 billion cubic feet of gas within the Kolmani area of Gombe and Bauchi, and has attracted $3 billion investment already.


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/566782-over-a-billion-barrels-of-oil-found-in-northern-nigeria-buhari-says-as-drilling-starts.html

......................................


Meanwhile further exploration is ongoing, and there is talk of vast deposits of oil and gas that no one on Earth knew about residing in the north.

We're talking Saudi Arabia, UAE levels of oil and gas reserves, that can generate 4 to 5 million barrels a day, unlike our current 1 million barrels a day output from the Niger Delta.

I suspect these developments may dampen secessionist sentiments among many.

Who go see betta thing run?

Imagine seceding when Nigeria is about to turn to UAE and Dubai?

As the SS has been milked for Nigeria so shall the oil in the north be done for all.

Nigeria turning to Dubai under the watch of this people? It means you are chasing shadow.they value growth of their religion than infrastructure.

No

DeepThroater:
If the north decides to secede today we know who go beg to join them .

By Biafra , I hope you meant your alaigbo region alone .

Since we’ll beg to join them, can the separation begin this evening?

Quintopia:
Who is the ''us''?

North never stopped Igbos from leaving Nigeria.

In fact 11 million Igbos live in the North, according to Ohaneze. (Goodness knows what you'll do with them when the north decides to deport them down to your paradise after your secession. Talk about a self-inflicted humanitarian catastrophe of biblical proportions)

The trouble is that a rogue element of Igbos called IPOB wants to annex the non-Igbo Niger Delta and Benue state as part of 'Biafra'.

And Nigeria says NO.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/rejected-biafra-5-igbo-states-nnamdi-kanu/

What about the fulanis annexation of the hausas in the north? Are there any two tribes with a single identity in the world like the hausa/fulani? At least the so called south south is made up of 40% igbos so there's absolutely nothing wrong if they are included in Biafra.

TimFisher2:


Has anyone noticed that the dead meat griller has stopped calling out PDP the way he used to
Has anyone noticed that he has stopped saying "Never again would we allow PDP to near our vault again"
So does it mean PDP has changed? And made him start attacking ObiDatti's campaign
Or is it out of sheer hatred against one tribe
God is a wonderful God, He will expose you in no distant time.
It is remaining Moh, YYibo and Ihordspy. They will surely be exposed too

EnEnPeecee:
the ediot na one nama like dat from sokoto. He shifted base because a northerner is in the race. Ignore the nama

Seun Mynd44 Dominique justwise.
Rule 2

TimFisher2:
Has anyone noticed that the dead meat griller has stopped calling out PDP the way he used to

Has anyone noticed that he has stopped saying "Never again would we allow PDP to near our vault again"
So does it mean PDP has changed? And made him start attacking ObiDatti's campaign
Or is it out of sheer hatred against one tribe?
God is a wonderful God, He will expose you in no distant time.
It is remaining Moh, YYibo and Ihordspy. They will surely be exposed too

wildkat:
U mean ? And Moh247?

TimFisher2:
YES!

Seun Mynd44 Dominique justwise.
Rule 2.
Rule 1.

The gas in the north is not even up to one percent of the estimated gas reserves in the Anambra basin alone. This positively affects Anambra and Enugu, and possibly Benue and Kogi

Imo already has proven gas reserves of about 200 trillion cubic feet. What this means is that the northern gas reserves is just 0.25% of the gas reserves of Imo state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anambra_Basin#:~:text=The%20gas%20reserse%20is%20estimated,gas%20wells%20in%20the%20basin.