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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 7:55am On Nov 24, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 7:56am On Nov 24, 2022
He has submitted his appeal and the word from the grapevine is 200k brown envelop matter. Las Las after trying to do the right thing na frustrate them go frustrate person.

Me I know get energy why spend 3m when I fit spend 300k with less stress and paperwork join but everyone to their own.


diordaves:


Madam gabbytabby, there is no clear cut process. They are just govt sanctioned area boys. The amount you will finally pay depends on negotiation and how you positively throw your weight around. However, it is not a good idea to tender ANY foreign document.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 8:08am On Nov 24, 2022
About 2/3 should do the job if you buy 100m complete.

Call this no for current price first for 70m and then for 100m. I have found him to be relatively honest but this Buhari regime Don change plenty people.


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princenomics:
Good evening House, please and please help me check the quotation given to me by my electrician for a 4 bedroom apartment. All ensuite with laundry room.
Please your input will be highly appreciated. Best regards.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 8:11am On Nov 24, 2022
Good morning beautiful people

We are still this project today In the heart of Lagos....

Screeding & pop.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 8:15am On Nov 24, 2022
twinskenny:


Don't be angry ogami... When you said cheaper I want to see if there is original Nigeria cable that's cheaper than above aside from nigerchin or so...

There are cable out there that's not up to 100meters in length they usually sell those ones cheaper but they won't tell you.

Nigerchin
1.5mm 12,400
2.5mm 20,300
4mm 33,000
10mm 82,000
16mm 125,000

Coleman as at 07/11/22
1mm=11,325
1.5mm=15,605
2.5mm=25,610
4mm=42,150
6mm=62,575
10mm=101,785
16mm=157,405

See above

The price quoted above for Nigerchin is the old price ..they have change their price but not up to Coleman price anyway
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 8:25am On Nov 24, 2022
michlins:
this is the easiest way to get confused and delay your project.

If you find someone who will deliver what you dream of in your project, get a quotation and bargain your price with him. Give him the job and move on to other things especially making more money. Sometimes what people charge you for includes but not limited to their experience, the peace of mind you get when working with them.

There are people who will work for you without you calling them on phone one day or worrying about delivery. Just pay them and sleep

You're very correct.

When @Topsy23 gives me quotes for wires or other things, I just go to sleep.. Same with @twinskenny @gbadexy and others..

I still do minor repairs on my jobs that are 2-5 years old, most times for free..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:27am On Nov 24, 2022
KolaShangOne:


You're very correct.

When @Topsy23 gives me quotes for wires or other things, I just go to sleep.. Same with @twinskenny @gbadexy and others..

I still do minor repairs on my jobs that are 2-5 years old, most times for free..
I still never work for you and it will be an honor

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:44am On Nov 24, 2022
topsy23:


The price quoted above for Nigerchin is the old price ..they have change their price but not up to Coleman price anyway
oh okay
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:14am On Nov 24, 2022
KolaShangOne:


You're very correct.

When @Topsy23 gives me quotes for wires or other things, I just go to sleep.. Same with @twinskenny @gbadexy and others..

I still do minor repairs on my jobs that are 2-5 years old, most times for free..
You are the type of engineer anyone should hope to work with sir.
Everything is done with ease and impeccability.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 9:37am On Nov 24, 2022
twinskenny:


Don't be angry ogami... When you said cheaper I want to see if there is original Nigeria cable that's cheaper than above aside from nigerchin or so...

There are cable out there that's not up to 100meters in length they usually sell those ones cheaper but they won't tell you.

Nigerchin
1.5mm 12,400
2.5mm 20,300
4mm 33,000
10mm 82,000
16mm 125,000

Coleman as at 07/11/22
1mm=11,325
1.5mm=15,605
2.5mm=25,610
4mm=42,150
6mm=62,575
10mm=101,785
16mm=157,405

See above
Like I said before, I've a way I source for materials either directly from the company(cables) or from importers(lightning).for cables,I mostly use either Coleman or Cutis,I never use Nigerchin Before but I'll surely patronize them one day. So I always updated with the current price.
Note_ I'm not a seller,pls don't send a dm.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 10:30am On Nov 24, 2022
olukaygold:

Like I said before, I've a way I source for materials either directly from the company(cables) or from importers(lightning).for cables,I mostly use either Coleman or Cutis,I never use Nigerchin Before but I'll surely patronize them one day. So I always updated with the current price.
Note_ I'm not a seller,pls don't send a dm.

Oga If buy from company directly its more expensive than buying from distributors..

Unless you are distributor
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 10:34am On Nov 24, 2022
twinskenny:


Oga If buy from company directly its more expensive than buying from distributors..

Unless you are distributor
this is something many don't know yet.

Because you're not buying enough quantity, you will have to pay much higher. Your only bargain is that you're sure of the quality. Outside of that, the total cost will be slightly higher than that of the open market

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 10:37am On Nov 24, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Peacefullife: 11:35am On Nov 24, 2022
topsy23:


The price quoted above for Nigerchin is the old price ..they have change their price but not up to Coleman price anyway

Can you please provide current prices for 1.5, 2.5, 4 and 10mm? Nigerchin and Coleman please?

Thanks in advance.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 11:59am On Nov 24, 2022
Peacefullife:


Can you please provide current prices for 1.5, 2.5, 4 and 10mm? Nigerchin and Coleman please?

Thanks in advance.


Find below the price list
Coleman
1.5mm 14,000
2.5mm 22900
4mm 37800
10mm 90650


Nigerchin
1.5mm 13150
2.5mm 21500
4mm 33000
10mm 87000
16mm 133000


Coleman reviewed their prices after series of complaints from distributor

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:06pm On Nov 24, 2022
gabbytabby:
He has submitted his appeal and the word from the grapevine is 200k brown envelop matter. Las Las after trying to do the right thing na frustrate them go frustrate person.

Me I know get energy why spend 3m when I fit spend 300k with less stress and paperwork join but everyone to their own.



Well someone said the appeal process worked for them. They should hope for the best then. Institutional appeal processes are not transparent in Nigeria. It is still the same set people who imposed the arbitrary charge in the first place that in most cases will also oversee the appeal. At the end of the day, it is still the walking the corridors of power and negotiating that will bring about a reduced charge. This always works for me.

Hope you're good sha? How's THAT your tenant? Hope they are now behaving well?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 12:38pm On Nov 24, 2022
michlins:
this is the easiest way to get confused and delay your project.

If you find someone who will deliver what you dream of in your project, get a quotation and bargain your price with him. Give him the job and move on to other things especially making more money. Sometimes what people charge you for includes but not limited to their experience, the peace of mind you get when working with them.

There are people who will work for you without you calling them on phone one day or worrying about delivery. Just pay them and sleep

Are you saying client should pay more for materials if the seller is honest and they are sure he's going to deliver. ..Or are you saying that a seller should quote higher because, according to you he's delivering "peace of mind"...Does this peace of mind comes at a different cost? Do we need to state it in the invoice? Something like this:

COLEMAN CABLE:

1.5MM-----15,100
2.5MM...25,000
PEACE OF MIND-----10,000
TOTAL = ---------

If all the welder around you are thieves and you're the only honest welder in that area; are you saying your price should be higher, not because you do or deliver a better job but because you wont abscond with my fund? Are you doing me a favour?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Coiner: 1:04pm On Nov 24, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 1:46pm On Nov 24, 2022
Coiner:
Greetings my people.

Please how durable are these doors. My location is still a developing site and I need something almost unbreachable.
The door is not really strong compare to Local iron door.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redgem(f): 1:46pm On Nov 24, 2022
bolu1986:
Good morning beautiful people

We are still this project today In the heart of Lagos....

Screeding & pop.

07088534661 whatsapp

32 bags of cement for this big building?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 1:47pm On Nov 24, 2022
dapotemi:


Are you saying client should pay more for materials if the seller is honest and they are sure he's going to deliver. ..Or are you saying that a seller should quote higher because, according to you he's delivering "peace of mind"...Does this peace of mind comes at a different cost? Do we need to state it in the invoice? Something like this:

COLEMAN CABLE:

1.5MM-----15,100
2.5MM...25,000
PEACE OF MIND-----10,000
TOTAL = ---------

If all the welder around you are thieves and you're the only honest welder in that area; are you saying your price should be higher, not because you do or deliver a better job but because you wont abscond with my fund? Are you doing me a favour?
Thanks Ogami! You really speak out my mind.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DMTtechnologies: 1:50pm On Nov 24, 2022
Coiner:
Greetings my people.

Please how durable are these doors. My location is still a developing site and I need something[b] almost unbreachable.[/b]

Pls go for something unbreakable.... "Almost" no go do am o
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 2:33pm On Nov 24, 2022
olukaygold:

The door is not really strong compare to Local iron door.

U are right
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 2:51pm On Nov 24, 2022
Godisgreatest1:
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

Potential Fraudster alert!!

From a recent observation..

Please I will advice everyone to 'hold your pockets tight'!...not everyone that posts advices, solutions, recommendations or pictures on this thread or forum are what they claim to be. MOST OF THEM ARE NOT ENGINEERS NEITHER ARE THEY BUILDERS OR BUILDING CONSULTANTS..they have no idea in relation to building and construction..please I will advice:

(1) Before you contact anyone on this thread or forum please be 101% sure you have done your own private investigation. You may be dealing with a yahoo Yahoo student behind a keyboard or a resident serial fraudster.

(2) Don't contact Mr A because Mr B contacted him and they had a 'perfect' dealing. There is something called 'organized crime', they may be playing to a script so do your own investigation.

(3) Some recently created accounts belong to already known 'famous' fraudsters. We made them popular, so they disguise in return to lure unsuspecting victims.

Be wise. Thank you.

I am extremely worried by insinuations on this thread that someone must belong to a field to make a difference in that field.

That is not necessarily true.

In America for example, when they wanted to write laws on electronic evidence, computer scientists, lawyers, judges, policemen, and forensic specialists were all involved, because that is the best way to ensure that all shades of opinions were considered. They did not leave it to just lawyers. But the target field was law.

What is true is that someone needs to be sufficiently curious and sufficiently motivated to make a difference in a field, it does not matter that you do not belong to that field.

Even lawyers are told to extensively read non-legal texts, that the more of non-legal texts they read, and the more of the world they know, the better they will be at the law. I am sure the same obtains in other disciplines.

There are several stories of prisoners who fought to upturn their convictions, and though not lawyers, sufficiently immersed themselves in law to make that a reality, and having invested so much time, ended up lawyers in addition to whatever other field they were already good at.
A good example is the Netflix film " For Life"

That is not the only example.

There is something called a polymath, someone who is talented in more than one field of human endeavor. Not all of them went to school to study all the fields they are talented at and have made contributions to, but they invested the time, effort, motivation, and curiosity to become subject matter experts in the fields that interested them.

I am not saying that specialization is bad, but to judge an input based solely on the background of the contributor is to be biased and to miss out on the benefits that an open mind can bring.

In fact, it has been repeatedly said that the more diverse your interests are, the better you can be at the one thing you choose to specialize in.

Without being immodest, I cannot say how many times, my depth of experience in more than one domain has proved to be invaluable in another field.

This BBC article is instructive. I have decided to share some excerpts.

For the sake of balance, let me repost what I posted on another thread about due caution when engaging vendors.

This is the reason why when I want to make a purchase I first decide on what to buy and then research who has a right to sell that item, and then only buy from such a person, unless any other seller can provide acceptable proof of chain of custody.

By doing such research I was able to buy electronic equipment at prices well below those advertised generally at my location while at the same time purchasing them from source. This has happened to me with not just my inverter experience which I narrated a while ago but most recently with TVs.

Summary, it pays to do your due diligence.

You know how hard money is to come by, ensure that anyone who wants you to part with your money is prequalified by successfully scaling a series of hoops before you ever release funds.


https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/1293#118216945

Let us make fine distinctions.

One can be a non-builder but share expert advice on building without being fraudulent

One can be a non-builder but share expert advice on building and also be fraudulent

So is the issue with who gives the advice

Or is the issue about the character of the person who gets embroiled in fraud?


If there is any tidbit to go away from this diatribe, it is that being open-minded is a very powerful tool for advancement in life.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hslbroker2(m): 2:51pm On Nov 24, 2022
Buy hardwood (2x2, 2x3, 2x4, 2x6, 3x4, 1x12) buy iron rod (8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 16mm, 20mm local and TMT) payment on delivery,thanks for your patronage,

God bless you all 09132123240.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 2:55pm On Nov 24, 2022
michlins:
this is the easiest way to get confused and delay your project.

If you find someone who will deliver what you dream of in your project, get a quotation and bargain your price with him. Give him the job and move on to other things especially making more money. Sometimes what people charge you for includes but not limited to their experience, the peace of mind you get when working with them.

There are people who will work for you without you calling them on phone one day or worrying about delivery. Just pay them and sleep

Maybe different rules apply to individuals giving out contracts, but you will be breaking procurement laws in government, if you give a contract without obtaining quotes from at least 3 sources.

The same goes for those who have experience dealing with big companies, there will look for several quotes, but usually at least 3.

It is unfortunate that the contractors don't appreciate just how much is revealed about pricing when the end user has quotes from so many sources.

I have seen how this has played out times without numbers.

That said there is an issue, if you have a reliable vendor, you stick with them BUT what if the vendor then decides to take advantage of the relationship to make more money because his quotes will not be checked?

Just musing around
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:19pm On Nov 24, 2022
FEGEITOK:


Maybe different rules apply to individuals giving out contracts, but you will be breaking procurement laws in government, if you give a contract without obtaining quotes from at least 3 sources.

The same goes for those who have experience dealing with big companies, there will look for several quotes, but usually at least 3.

It is unfortunate that the contractors don't appreciate just how much is revealed about pricing when the end user has quotes from so many sources.

I have seen how this has played out times without numbers.

That said there is an issue, if you have a reliable vendor, you stick with them BUT what if the vendor then decides to take advantage of the relationship to make more money because his quotes will not be checked?

Just musing around
well my statement is based on an individual builder.

There's another point I raised. If the stated price is not within your reach, bargain what you can pay. Believe me no artisan will leave any money which will execute the job when offered.

I did this gate for someone in this thread (didn't reveal his or her identity) the money I charged, my boss will charge double and will probably get the job if we both submit quotation at same place and he will use same materials as me. He has built such a massive customer base that will take me years to cultivate and he is reaping the rewards.

A Samsung phone of relative spec with Tecno will be more expensive than the Tecno. You're not just buying the product but the confidence of after sales service

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 3:23pm On Nov 24, 2022
michlins:
well my statement is based on an individual builder.

There's another point I raised. If the stated price is not within your reach, bargain what you can pay. Believe me no artisan will leave any money which will execute the job when offered.

I did this gate for someone in this thread (didn't reveal his or her identity) the money I charged, my boss will charge double and will probably get the job if we both submit quotation at same place and he will use same materials as me. He has built such a massive customer base that will take me years to cultivate and he is reaping the rewards.

A Samsung phone of relative spec with Tecno will be more expensive than the Tecno. You're not just buying the product but the confidence of after sales service

No issues, just providing an alternative point of view.

That is why differentiation is important.

The Wood Factory can sell a settee for 8 million meanwhile the ordinary carpenter on the street would find it hard to sell one for 500,000.00.

Usually when you bill more, you need to provide justification for billing more, it should not depend on the client to ask you why your bill is more than others.

I just invited two welders in my area to do a little fabrication for me, and the difference between both quotes was like the difference between night and day.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Coiner: 3:36pm On Nov 24, 2022
DMTtechnologies:


Pls go for something unbreakable.... "Almost" no go do am o

Pls share some examples..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyesky(m): 5:34pm On Nov 24, 2022
Matt Black Finished. cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olumighty123(m): 5:40pm On Nov 24, 2022
Muyesky:
Matt Black Finished. cool

How much for this?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 6:02pm On Nov 24, 2022
redgem:


32 bags of cement for this big building?

no

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