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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TouchOfSpice(m): 8:26pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
Yeah I think I can relate to some extent. Jobs in the UK might make you feel like sey village people follow you come . First 5 weeks in the UK was trying for me , despite the naija expectation I had that I will get a job immediately I arrive in the UK. Countless calls and interviews, even to some reaching final stage with their CTO na still silence later. But when the time comes, I was opportuned by Gods grace to get an offer immediately after the last interview. Ever since na me dey ignore interview invite and postpone , surprisingly they will wait till any date you reschedule to. (This you can't try with my naija HR) To cut the long story short, when the time comes , the same CV / your interview format you have been using will now start yielding offers like sey you do jazz. As someone said above, never emphasize too much on visa sponsorship during the call /interview when you get the offer you can lay it on table and they will most likely oblige you. I did not asked for sponsorship during my interview. In my present job the Head of HR is already asking me that am I willing to to be considered for sponsorship after my probation period. I am still sceptical simply because I know I am considering a position in Manchester metropolitan with 30% salary increase. But it's sweet to work with the White o. They work smart but PLAY hard. Imagine having dinner/hangout event every 2 Thursdays of the month . There is even beer and drinks in the fridge to pop when you feel stressed. This I can never imagine in my naija. Don't give up. Your hustle go click . Cheers!! 20 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 9:16pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
hustla:Most companies would rather go for someone without that extra sponsorship baggage. Trust me, if you’ve gone through all the stages and they actually like you, then you can negotiate that as a part of the deal because some of these companies would rather not go through the whole hiring process again especially if they actually offer sponsorship and they really need someone to fill out that role OR show the value you bring and post probation, request for sponsorship. Some get lucky with a few companies who are open about offering sponsorship right away. But a lot of companies do not outrightly offer, so you’ll end up losing a lot of good opportunities if you are too eager to mention that you are on a student visa or that you need sponsorship. 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 9:19pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
TouchOfSpice:Exactly! That’s the thing, with many No’s will come that one yes or even multiple yeses. Na you sef go dey reject them. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 9:45pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
Yea I actually got one as a replacement to my old Redmi Note 5 device and its super smooth but go with your choice though AgentXxx: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 10:05pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
lightnlife:3 months!! Baba! So will you put that short stint on your CV? 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 10:32pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
hustla:Nope. You should make them want you enough to then agree to sponsor. And you can only get that opportunity during interview. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Phil46: 11:21pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
Hello, Please, can I book Egyptair directly on their website? Do they accept naira cards for payment or have a Nigerian account for transfer? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:29pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
mimilyrics: I'm liking this. This is a strategy I recently decided to adopt - I mean the job changing. I am naturally very "loyal" and also not necessarily motivated by money, I have taken pay cuts to be in a role that I prefered... If I enjoy my work and I like the culture and I'm respected, then I can stay put for a long while in one company. Recently I got a new manager at work and the dude who at the point knew little about the work/product started questioning my work and made some very unjustified disparaging remarks...I was quite shocked. I always put in my best and never in my whole life has my output been unsatisfactory. I just imagined that this human can wake up and give me a bad performance review and I'll be asked to leave., this is how they will stain my white .. That weekend, I edited my CV (and kept updating/tweaking it almost weekly ) and started some courses I had been procrastinating. Within a month I had a number of interviews scheduled and accepted an offer (Lesson here for me is that once you have that UK experience you lacked initially, you will become more appealing in the market, so for those saying sponsorship limits you to one employer...I say only if you let it) Also I quietly quit - I never take my laptop home again....I used to come in up to 30mins before official time and stay late to finish up sometimes....now I walk in like other ppl by 9 or 9.15 sef and 4.50pm I pack my bag...no time I have never called in sick...I plan to be sick next week or upper, afterall everyone is coughing amd sneezing I realised that I achieved a lot in 6 weeks because I was angry, now I want that to be my default status - always "angry" and looking for the next best thing and putting needs first. If I may ask, why did you move to a lower band? 9 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 11:34pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
mizGene: Nawa. Plenty wahala for this Waka |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 11:35pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
mizGene: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 11:35pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: True |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 11:38pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
Are you suggesting not to mention your visa type unless they asked? Amarathripple0: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:39pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
hustla: No wahala there o. If they don't ask, don't mention until late stage or offer even. While it may be disappointing for you if they then refuse, interview experiences are needed to hone your skills for future interviews, so it isn't a complete waste of time. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by jadepinkett(f): 11:51pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
mizGene: This makes sense. I'd change my strategy. I'm already working with a promise to sponsor. I am exploring the market to see if I can get a better offer hence why I put it up front. Chai... the number of recruiters I have chased away by mentioning it. Have to hone back my interview skills, so last last that could still count as a benefit 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:54pm On Nov 25, 2022 |
bigtt76:Yup, don’t ask, don’t tell. if they ask, say you have a visa that allows you to work, if they ask what type of visa, just say Tier 4. All the extra shalaye of student visa and needing sponsorship isn’t necessary. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by SPDAZZY(f): 1:23am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Gemma11: Thanks a lot |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by lightnlife: 2:25am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Most "professional rolling stones" change jobs because of boredom. They're explorers, creative and innovative. The best thing for them is to become a consultant, working on different projects per time instead of having a fixed 9-5 job all year. That way, they maintain freshness and dynamism in professional practice. Given that the UK labour market steeped in favour of the employee, you can always negotiate your way around. Objectively analyze your options and go with the best. You can move around within the NHS. corpershun: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by lightnlife: 2:38am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Are you in or out of the UK? If you're in already, You might want to tone down on the request for sponsorship at the interview stage. Secure the job first, deliver value and negotiate to your advantage. Some jobs are quite clear on giving sponsorship, for those you can raise it with them at the interview stage. For those that do not state so, you can let it slide at the interview stage. jadepinkett: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by lightnlife: 2:44am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Creatives no dey use CV, na portfolio we dey use. It's the experience, impact and result that counts not the duration. Even for CV, you necessary don't have to put all your career touch points on the paper just the most valuable or applicable to the role in question. *Maba OR Bama. mizGene: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Santa2: 3:54am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: Seconded..I know several people that eventually got sponsored after working for a bit and showing value. You can choose what strategy works for you but I prefer the later as it has been proven to work over and over again(except its NHS). Also you can get a very good job that doesnt sponsor, work for a bit and pivot to one that does. It gets easier changing jobs after your first 'professional' role. 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:13am On Nov 26, 2022 |
lightnlife: I'm still wondering how you hope to secure and start the job with a student visa |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 10:48am On Nov 26, 2022 |
hustla:I think you are viewing a student visa as a major blocker when in fact some companies like Barclays, JP Morgan & Chase, IBM, PwC etc offer flexible working and job sharing options. You could even secure a job as a student and work with the company on a part time basis then transition to full time after Uni like the girl in the video below did. Lastly, and the most obvious; you can get a full time job when you are actually done with Uni. As for securing the job, just sell the heck out of yourself, be confident, don't come off as desperate and do some research about the company, let your STAR stories align with what they do and their values. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBf3zLihul8&t=17s 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 10:50am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Just state Tier 4 visa or simply specify - Right to Work in the UK (Sharecode - Bleep-Bleep-XX) many won't bother to probe further seeing this as they don't know much about it compared to when they see Student Visa in your CV ...awon werey. They'd be complaining no skills or talent to employ but we de here de beg them for jobs dem never de mind us hustla: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by bigtt76(f): 10:51am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Makes sense. From now I will just mention *Right to work with my share code* finish. Amarathripple0: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:53am On Nov 26, 2022 |
bigtt76: You dey vex oo. Can't blame them Sha |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 10:53am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: Thanks, I appreciate I'll go through this video 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:00am On Nov 26, 2022 |
bigtt76:Cool, my go to response is "I have a residents permit that allows me to work". Because a Tier 4 BRP is actually a residents permit. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:02am On Nov 26, 2022 |
bigtt76:I never knew people put info about visa in their CV, I would say don't do it.. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 11:13am On Nov 26, 2022 |
mizGene:Lol that’s automatic disqualification. Also @ bigtt76 , Never give them your share code. Unless it’s asked for at the due diligence stage. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 11:31am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Amarathripple0: Exactly, it just raises questions unnecessarily and you are likely to get passed over. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Goke7: 11:45am On Nov 26, 2022 |
bigtt76: the thing don tire me, the contradictions are just too boring |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Gourdoinc(m): 11:47am On Nov 26, 2022 |
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