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| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 9:32am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Workch:Go and make or create a DNA and I'll accept your notion |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 9:34am On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:The names of what you mentioned must all have their witnesses. Go and meet them to find facts. You are not expecting me to spoonfeed you. |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Maynman: 9:37am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Shameless rapists. Look at the scandals a Jehovah loving family is finding themselves in!
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| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 9:39am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:What are you talking about? DNA can be created since early 50s. Created DNA can be translated since then, recently a whole Genome of species was created hence the first aritidicial bacteria developed. Are you stuck in 1900s?
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| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 9:45am On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:No He wasn't. He was trying to entertain himself with your clownish behavior If you laugh at a mad man songs, he will think he is singing beautifully or what he says make sense You're just being ridiculous Listen, child abuse is really damaging. It can damage someone for many decades. Many who are abused can tend to hate sex, love sex too much or just be indifferent to it Even if an offender is sentenced to imprisonment, the victim is still bitter and sometimes blame himself or herself Now imagine a Witness abusing a minor and nothing is done to him. It can damage the victim's faith in God. Will he pardon his parents who knew about it and kept mute. You are swallowing junkie from frogs and swines. You are a great believer of propaganda. Go to court or prison and look for records of crimes against witnesses. Any organization guilty of child abuse will be guilty of fraud and any other crimes as they have no human feeling but wickedness inside. Mention any group more cleaner either spiritually, morally, physically and emotionally than Jehovah's Witnesses. Go and look for us where we defraud people, loot, steal funds, cheat on employers time, do rituals, engage in violent conflict or threaten. There is none, everyone is just distorting reports of child abuse. They say we abuse our children but all our children are happier than the children of every other group. Is something not wrong somewhere? |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 9:46am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Workch:Hahahah You are ridiculous Did you even read the article and follow the process Yes, it can be synthesized, altered and translated. It can be separated and stored. It is like you have problem with the word 'created' |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 9:52am On Nov 26, 2022 |
[s][/s] Aemmyjah:I agree with you that my arguments are sham, it’s because I don’t like arguments, I only like evidence. Arguments will persist when people like you cannot provide evidence. That been said, I am not saying that there’s no creator, I am not an atheist. I am agnostics. So who created the painter? Tell me who created the painter if the paint must have a creator There’s no full stop, it’s a vis koi’s cycle and infinite regress We can feel gravity, we can measure time, temperature, etc. We can't see space thoughI don’t know who made them, that’s why I am asking you for evidence We can trace with facts and records about traffic laws cos they were MADE BY HUMANS and we can still observe and make ours. What about the ones we can to meet in the universe like the gravitational laws, etc. It was not humans that made them but they provide more guidance and direction to planetary bodies more accurate than human traffic laws. Did this come about by chance or na you make am?so give the a record of who made the gravitational law like we have that of those who made traffic law. You latter has evidence. As for abiogenesis, it was defeated by Louis Pasteur. You are looking for evidence to a dead theory. Keep lookingi don’t believe abiogenesis because there’s no evidence of it yet. There’s also no evidence that your god created it. The only evidence that we have is that everything evolved from something. As to your claims of intelligence (which is not even generally agreed by scientists both religious and non religious), lemme ask, why are our ancestors the chimps and gorilla (as sciences wants us to believe) not intelligent half as we are.I don’t know, do you know why? Tell me The gulf between the intelligence of humans and the chimpanzees is far greatest than the similarities between same chimps and ants. These ones act on instinct. It's funny you yourself said it is not a universal fact cos I won't dispute FACTS. We all have brains as other mammals do. Do human babies make use of such cognitive abilities or you will tell me that a adult gorilla has more cognitive power than an infant? If you say so, you'll be most ridiculous. If you say otherwise, you're biting yourself. What about ants? Do they dedicate it too cos we humans too study them? What about the migratory clock of birds.you think humans are very intelligent? Humans crated atomic bomb, have you seen a rat create a rat poison capable of killing all rats in existence? ![]() A goat sees a car approaching, things have to occur in his nervous system that will make it leave the road and it's part of irritability as we sense danger and respond to it. Only a dead goat cannot as all the systems and brains are dead? Who designed this ability? An intelligent designer or it came by accident?I don’t know how it came but we know that the goat inherited that brain from other species that were or not goat. We also know that the brain was actually not created by evolved from a premitive kind of sense organ. We are yet o see any designer there unless you show us with evidence We humans can think plan, invent, sing, dance, learn a new language and try to find purpose in life. Do you agree or you want to be in same page with a goat?even ants plan and can communicate by chemical languages. Can humans communicate by chemical languages? Every species has its strengths and weaknesses I watched a movie and I saw a car, it was driving but there was no driver in it, only a passenger. It will stop by itself during traffic, overtake cars, slow down, make signals to warn other cars, even hoot. I'm not sure the passenger was controlling it as he was drunk, dead drunk and the car took him to his destination next morning. Did those things evolve by itself in the cars or a product of intelligent car makers?it’s called artificially intelligent car and we know with evidence who created it, we don’t have evidence for created the first life. That’s the difference Go and make research on bionics or biomimicry. I rest my casewhy do you think that I don’t know about this already? |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 9:55am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Y Aemmyjah:please kindly tell me the meaning of synthesis in scientific terms. Cos I don’t get it. You can make purines and pyrimidines in the lab, turn them to nucleosides, then nucleotides that will then form nucleic acids like rna and DNA. Did you skip biology class? |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by jaephoenix(m): 10:03am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:Your grasp of basic biology is appalling. 1. Who said our ancestors are chimps and gorillas? Please get reading 2. Our brains are more complex than chimps's. Bigger prefrontal cortex etc. More cognitive abilities 3. A baby's head is smaller than an adult's. They continue growing til they reach adult size 4. There are many processes that make animals alive, from sense of danger, reflex abilities etc. None of them has any link to any god. 5. So what about biomimicry? Another god-of-gap? Lol I'm simply tired of this your god-of-gapping antics. You won't even tell us which particular god |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by jaephoenix(m): 10:05am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:They said its their favorite gods that created life. Same thing you have been telling me, only inserting your favorite god |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 10:12am On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:1. Do you read science books at all. Go and read them to answer your number 1 especially biology 2. Was your brain designed or a product of non intelligence? 3. Who said otherwise? Go back and read what I wrote. I was comparing the power of a baby's brain to that of an adult mammal 4. The processes are complicated for scientists to understand HOW? But why do they have those senses? Who gave them those senses? A intelligent creator or they came by chance? 5. Ask Google |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by jaephoenix(m): 10:24am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:I have excerpts from his posts here, since you're blind Ọmọ we are talking about my own child here not yours so even if i give her out for porn it's my damn business not yours. They thought the reports of child molestation that's not happening here in Nigeria is enough to silence the truth that's why i asked them to present any global group that child molesters can't be found among them and it really made them mad! cheesy Let them come and tell me in whose standard is child molesting condemned if it's humans or God. If they say it's humans then i will tell them that many do it and gets away with it so what else do they have to say? When you shun reasonableness but decides to force your opinion on others that's what you get my friend! wink Whatever i choose to do with my own child is none of your damn business it's my own child not yours. cheesy |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by LordReed(m): 10:29am On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:One of the saddest things I ever heard. In this modern day someone would deny their own living breathing children life affirming medical care because of iron age mythologies. Absolutely abhorrent. |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by jaephoenix(m): 10:30am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:1. I know we evolved from a common ancestor. It didn't say chimps, monkeys, goats, cows. IT SAYS A COMMON ANCESTOR. Get the difference? 2. I don't know. I'm asking you 3. 4. Aemmyjah:1. I know we evolved from a common ancestor. It didn't say chimps, monkeys, goats, cows. IT SAYS A COMMON ANCESTOR. Get the difference? 2. I don't know. I'm asking you 3. Ok 4. Ditto 3 5. I knew it already. I'm just asking you what about it? How does it figure into our discourse? |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by jaephoenix(m): 10:36am On Nov 26, 2022 |
LordReed:And then they tell the child that they love him. But they are murdering him. One of my friends lost his sister who married a Child Molester because they refused transfusions while she had PPH(Post Partum Hemorrhage). And Max was telling me rubbish that 'medical professionals' have endorsed bloodless surgery. Imagine. Please ask those 'medical professionals' how we manage emergencies like PPH |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 10:44am On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:They say we all have a common ancestor. From which we share evolution from. As to the origin of man, what does biology say? You'll have seen the diagrams as well. From monkey's to baboons to chimps to gorilla to some other unknown creatures down to the modern man, homo sapiens There are millions of 'inferior' monkeys and baboons, yet, there is no single survivor or 'superior' apemen If reproduction is the production of offspring similar to parents. At what point did a snake produce a crocodile. A crocodile produce a bird or a gorilla produce a man We don't have any interlinking species to believe theory of evolution. Besides scientists don't agree on it, yet they call it a fact. They don't agree on its definition but they call it a fact. The basis Darwin used to come up with such theory is not obsolete, yet they call it a fact. Darwin did not agree that the eye is a product of evolution but today they say the eyes evolved from some patch or radiating light They call it a scientific fact and theory but it did not follow steps to scientific analysis. They'll see a old skull or half skull and quickly reconstruct it into an organism. How can you use a skull and then know the positions of the arms, legs and organs but they want us to believe as if we put our brains in the pocket.. Cause and effects points to a Creator Laws must have a lawgiver points to a Creator Design must have a designer points to a Creator Life comes from life points to a Creator If there is no creator, your existence on earth is meaningless and purposeless. Do you believe that? |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 11:28am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:you seem to be the person who doesn’t understand science, you since you do not know that DNA can be created in the lab. 2. Was your brain designed or a product of non intelligence?the Brain was not designed, it evolved from prehistoric sense organs. The evidence is almost everywhere for this 3. Who said otherwise? Go back and read what I wrote. I was comparing the power of a baby's brain to that of an adult mammal. 4. The processes are complicated for scientists to understand HOW? But why do they have those senses? Who gave them those senses? A intelligent creator or they came by chance?if you have evidence that your god created everything, kindly show us |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 11:32am On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:You dragged him into this I warned him though but he did not listen When a sane person exchanges words or prove innocence from a mad man's accusations, everyone will think both are mad and the accusations are true He'll come and verify them himself. Someone else could see these conversation and say 'hey, one guy on nairaland actually admitted they do those things'. You believe lies, it is like wine to you The truths I shared about us and our experience, you called them lies but what people say about us on the internet are what you chose to believe. Sorry is your surname |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 11:34am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Workch:Hahahaha You some something on google without clicking to read the full gist. Guy, I'm a biologist. So who is fooling who? Tell me the prehistoric sense organs that the brains evolved from and tell me why homo sapiens are far intelligent that older creatures? You need evidence, look around you. |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 11:45am On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:stop asking us questions when you cannot provide any evidence. Having common ancestor doesn’t necessarily mean that a designer doesn’t exist. It only disprove the fraud in the Bible about Adam and Eve and divinity. It doesn’t disprove other forms of god like deism. Get that There are millions of 'inferior' monkeys and baboons, yet, there is no single survivor or 'superior' apemenwhats your definition for superior? How do you mean? Do you means that humans are the most superior species? If yes, how? If reproduction is the production of offspring similar to parents. At what point did a snake produce a crocodile. A crocodile produce a bird or a gorilla produce a mansnakes did not produce crocodile, that’s not how evolution works. It’s a jargons portrayed by creationists who have poor grasp of biology We don't have any interlinking species to believe theory of evolution.we have so many interlink species, you jus have to sit down and read to find them instead of arguing blindly Besides scientists don't agree on it, yet they call it a fact.studies shows that 98% of biologists agree with evolution They don't agree on its definition but they call it a fact. The basis Darwin used to come up with such theory is not obsolete, yet they call it a fact. Darwin did not agree that the eye is a product of evolution but today they say the eyes evolved from some patch or radiating lightShow me a verified article saying this They call it a scientific fact and theory but it did not follow steps to scientific analysis. They'll see a old skull or half skull and quickly reconstruct it into an organism. How can you use a skull and then know the positions of the arms, legs and organs but they want us to believe as if we put our brains in the pocket..another poor grasp of science. Scientific theories are not facts, they are the best we use to explain facts. Facts are natural phenomena that are undebatable like cells, atoms, gravity and evolution etc Theories are explanations of facts and they are fallable. Atomic theory explains atoms Cell theory explains cells General theory of relativity explains gravity Synthetic theory of evolution explain evolution. The theories are not facts, the phenomena they explain are facts. Evolution, atoms, gravity and cells are facts Cause and effects points to a Creatorgood, then who created the creator based on cause and effect Life comes from life points to a Creatorwhich live have birth to the creator? If there is no creator, your existence on earth is meaningless and purposeless. Do you believe that?ye, this is true. There is no purpose to life in the real sense considering the evidence we have available |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 11:53am On Nov 26, 2022*. Modified: 3:06pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:I am a Biochemist with masters in clinical chemistry and in evolutionary biology from the Telaviv university. So we can discuss this topic all you want. You should get a refund form your school cos you learnt nothing there if truly you are a biologist. Tell me the prehistoric sense organs that the brains evolved from and tell me why homo sapiens are far intelligent that older creatures?genetic mapping shows that Brain evolved from prehistoric nerve nets. While a lot of animals with nerve nets are exticnt, examples of the ones we can see now are jellyfishes. Are you sure you studies biology and you don’t know this? You need evidence, look around you.We have looked around and we still do not find evidence that your god created the universe, we think you made that up. If you think otherwise then you should tell us what you have seen by looking around |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 12:05pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Workch:You're fooling yourself This is a public forum not a private conversation Your assumption has made the brain look like a toy Yes, the brain is part of the central nervous system and lower animals have power of sensitivity like jellyfishes and worms, etc. Some are well developed and others are poorly developed. That of mammals is far distinct than that of common animals If you are truly an evolutionary biologist, you will agree with me that EVOLUTION does NOT bring about complexity The brain is a marvel of design. Only people like you try to trace it to lower forms of life Which telaviv university? The One is Israel/Palestine or the one in makoko island? Show us here of just one, 1 incidence of how a DNA was created Even if was, it represents what? That DNA could come by chance or an intelligent designer? You'll never see any design of creation if not for short sightedness. Even many blind people believe in a creator, you with eyes can't see |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Aemmyjah(m): 12:09pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Workch:He's talking nonsense Nonsense!! Gravity, cells are facts cos they can be proven experimentally and there is no heated argument about gravity today. What about Evolution? Yet you call it fact A book that tells us not to steal to love one another will lie about the origin of man right? Which makes sense? Man is a direct creation of God or that man was formed from some group of animals? |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 12:33pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:If evolution is not fact then why don’t you use penicillin to treat typhoid anymore? If evolution is not fact then why don’t you look exactly like your siblings even as you come from same parents? A book that tells us not to steal to love one another will lie about the origin of man right?The books also tells us that snakes can talk, people can give birth without fertilization, earth is flat and can stop, earth is 6000years old. Does that make any sense? |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Workch(op): 12:44pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Aemmyjah:I understand that people can get frustrated when they are losing a debate and somehow resort to insults. I won’t follow a pig to the mud anyways Yes, the brain is part of the central nervous system and lower animals have power of sensitivity like jellyfishes and worms, etc. Some are well developed and others are poorly developed.how does this resolve the issues you rose with respect to where brain evolved from? Are your sure you have any degree in biology? If you are truly an evolutionary biologist, you will agree with me that EVOLUTION does NOT bring about complexityyou don’t even need evolution to understand the brain, you only need basic neuroscience knowledge to do that. I had a course dedicated to that while in school, even as an undergraduate studying biochemistry, we studied neurotransmission. It’s not really very hard to grasp like you are making it seem. Which telaviv university? The One is Israel/Palestine or the one in makoko island?The one is Isreal, it’s ranked one of the best universities in the world BTW. Show us here of just one, 1 incidence of how a DNA was createdif you actually studied biology, you would have known that artificial cells exists and you may also know that DNA can be synthesized an-initio from primary elements. This is like 1950s biochemistry and you are still not getting it We have 10100000 examples of those on the internet but you won’t read or bother to check. You'll never see any design of creation if not for short sightedness. Even many blind people believe in a creator, you with eyes can't seei agree that I am shortsighted, i wear glasses for that, I guess is one of the many errors in the so-called design ![]() |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:20pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:Jehovah is the God of JUSTICE so it's because you were created in the image of God that's why you're calling out for justice. He (God) judged wrongdoers and it's right in the eyes of normal humans except insanes like you who wants justice but don't want to know any judge! ![]() |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:26pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:Ọmọ if your own daughter is molested and she is willing to press charges you're free to take up the case to any length but in case you're just creating a flux in your head so there's nothing to judge! Meanwhile your own daughter may turn against you in court telling the jury that the accused never touched her that's when you will here wen because the whole thing will be turned against you, unwise one! ![]() |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Maynman: 3:27pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Look at the excuses a rapist is giving for rape! Creating hypothesis just to defend rape, wow! So shameless!
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| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:31pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
jaephoenix:FOOLS! If you don't believe in God that makes you an higher animal so what makes you sane to the point of demanding justice against an animal mating with it's younger ones? Ọmọ there's no sane rules that deprives any human from mating with his or her child except God's word. So if you don't believe in God where exactly do you find the idea of punishing animals mating with their own kids? ![]() |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:34pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Maynman:Go and hug a transformer! You can't eat your cake and still have it, if you despise the idea of a SUPREME BEING you're not in any position to impose your own personal standard on others! ![]() |
| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by Maynman: 3:43pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Go and rape your daughter AGAIN! you can’t be worshipping an israelite god and not be a worthless jewish slave. A “supreme being” that’s only found in a forged jewish book. No wonder you are a sheep! Is it deus standard that told you to be raping your children and giving them out to your elders to rape? Shameless rapist! ![]() Jehovah witness are rapists
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| Re: Why Science Is More Powerful Than God With An Experiment. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On Nov 26, 2022 |
Maynman:Cry me a river! There's nothing stopping animals from mating with their young ones except God's word that forbids incest. So if you despise the judge you have no right calling for justice! ![]() |
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