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If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 8:33am On Dec 02, 2022
If the Genesis story is literally true, then evolution (and almost everything else about science) is wrong. Simple.

However, even the Catholic Pope doesn’t believe that the Adam & Eve story is literally true. http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02tc.htm

And we know that microwave ovens work, mobile phones work and satellite GPS works, so not everything about science is wrong.

That leaves you with interpreting the Adam & Eve story as an allegory (for something) or as a method that the people of that time used to convey religious and cultural values.

It doesn’t make sense on any level to me, but I accept that others find meaning there.

Assume that Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth and that they were of the same race. Their continued offspring would have had to evolve into all the different ethnic people of the world and this is hard to fault because otherwise there would not be such a variety of humans around the world. That is, evolution would have had to take place for the changes to occur. If that part of evolution is accepted why not the whole of evolution from primitive life to successively more complex life? Adam was possibly a complex molecule, which had not yet triggered into life.

The Bible, Tora and Qur’an does not say this, however. God made Adam in his own image, a fully modern human being. These books are wrong.

You have to accept evolution in its entirety and not pick bits, which fit in the gaps in the story presented in the aforementioned books.
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by MrPresident1: 8:39am On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
If the Genesis story is literally true,

The Genesis story is not literal, it is truth presented in allegory

Galatians 4:24 KJV
Which things are an allegory:

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 8:50am On Dec 02, 2022
MrPresident1:


The Genesis story is not literal, it is truth presented in allegory

Galatians 4:24 KJV
Which things are an allegory:
it can even be literally. The problem with allegories is that anybody can read any meaning that suit him or her to it

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by paxonel(m): 9:00am On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
If the Genesis story is literally true, then evolution (and almost everything else about science) is wrong. Simple.

However, even the Catholic Pope doesn’t believe that the Adam & Eve story is literally true. http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02tc.htm

And we know that microwave ovens work, mobile phones work and satellite GPS works, so not everything about science is wrong.

That leaves you with interpreting the Adam & Eve story as an allegory (for something) or as a method that the people of that time used to convey religious and cultural values.

It doesn’t make sense on any level to me, but I accept that others find meaning there.

Assume that Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth and that they were of the same race. Their continued offspring would have had to evolve into all the different ethnic people of the world and this is hard to fault because otherwise there would not be such a variety of humans around the world. That is, evolution would have had to take place for the changes to occur. If that part of evolution is accepted why not the whole of evolution from primitive life to successively more complex life? Adam was possibly a complex molecule, which had not yet triggered into life.

The Bible, Tora and Qur’an does not say this, however. God made Adam in his own image, a fully modern human being. These books are wrong.

You have to accept evolution in its entirety and not pick bits, which fit in the gaps in the story presented in the aforementioned books.
then you are yet to understand that the Adam and Eve story may have occurred in the perspective of God's time which is not necessarily the human 24 hours per day

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Meaning, you can't use the human 24 hours format for God which may had applied to creationism hence evolution

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Osamabinladenik: 9:52am On Dec 02, 2022
paxonel:
then you are yet to understand that the Adam and Eve story may have occurred in the perspective of God's time which is not necessarily the human 24 hours per day

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Meaning, you can't use the human 24 hours format for God which may had applied to creationism hence evolution
Lol, you guys always have a way to defend you silly Bible stories

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by oteneaaron(m): 9:57am On Dec 02, 2022
The story of Adam and Eve is just a retelling of even older story of creation - it was copied from the ancient Sumerian story of creation known as the Atrahasis.

Moreso, people were already living on this planet millions years before "Adam" and "Eve" came to the party.

Just like MrPresident1 mentioned above, it is just an Allegory to an even greater realization.

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Aemmyjah(m): 10:47am On Dec 02, 2022
Jesus genealogy was traced to Adam
Jesus was described as the second Adam
Jesus quoted what was said in the garden of Eden about marriage


If Adam is an allegory or never existed, should we believe Jesus Christ as a person and what he said?
Should we expect that the book that urges us not to lie will actually lie to us about one important question people ask - the origin of mankind?


Which one makes sense? That all races we have today descended from one couple

Or

Mankind are descent of a group of animals

Note that animals mate like animals and reproduce like animals. A lizard cannot mate a snake and give birth to an alligator. A dog won't make a cat or give birth to it.

God made out of one man every nation of men

Science is not false. Science is progressive, some theories have been proved false but as to the origin of man resulting from organic evolution, it is completely false. It did not even meet scientific method

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Osamabinladenik: 10:59am On Dec 02, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Jesus genealogy was traced to Adam
Jesus was described as the second Adam
Jesus quoted what was said in the garden of Eden about marriage


If Adam is an allegory or never existed, should we believe Jesus Christ as a person and what he said?
Should we expect that the book that urges us not to lie will actually lie to us about one important question people ask - the origin of mankind?


Which one makes sense? That all races we have today descended from one couple

Or

Mankind are descent of a group of animals

Note that animals mate like animals and reproduce like animals. A lizard cannot mate a snake and give birth to an alligator. A dog won't make a cat or give birth to it.

God made out of one man every nation of men

Science is not false. Science is progressive, some theories have been proved false but as to the origin of man resulting from organic evolution, it is completely false. It did not even meet scientific method
Jesus basically is a bastard by definition.
He has no genealogy since he wasn't gathered by joseph.

The bible if taken literally is a very funny book

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Aemmyjah(m): 11:02am On Dec 02, 2022
Osamabinladenik:
Jesus basically is a bastard by definition.
He has no genealogy since he wasn't gathered by joseph.

The bible if taken literally is a very funny book

Your comments are read, ignored and trashed

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Osamabinladenik: 11:10am On Dec 02, 2022
Aemmyjah:


Your comments are read, ignored and trashed
Is Joseph Jesus's father?

Why do you Christians lie a lot?

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 12:24pm On Dec 02, 2022
paxonel:
then you are yet to understand that the Adam and Eve story may have occurred in the perspective of God's time which is not necessarily the human 24 hours per day

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Meaning, you can't use the human 24 hours format for God which may had applied to creationism hence evolution
Lol, perceptive of god’s time.

Lol
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:40pm On Dec 02, 2022
Adam and Eve story is not against science but Evolution. Simple! smiley
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 12:43pm On Dec 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Adam and Eve story is not against science but Evolution. Simple! smiley
But theory of Evolution is science.

If Evolution is not true then how did we get Asians, Caucasians and Africans from Adam and Eve’s genes?

Between them, who was Chinese, Indian, African or European? If none, then how did we get all these races?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Osamabinladenik: 12:49pm On Dec 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Adam and Eve story is not against science but Evolution. Simple! smiley
really?

If Evolution is not science so how come we are here and we haven't gone extinct?

Why did do we find fossils of dead organism that we cannot find again today?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Michael547(m): 1:29pm On Dec 02, 2022
Osamabinladenik:
really?

If Evolution is not science so how come we are here and we haven't gone extinct?

Why did do we find fossils of dead organism that we cannot find again today?
I get your point. But does the fossils that are found today prove that ancient animals evolved into different kinds of animals today?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Michael547(m): 1:39pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
If the Genesis story is literally true, then evolution (and almost everything else about science) is wrong. Simple.

However, even the Catholic Pope doesn’t believe that the Adam & Eve story is literally true. http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02tc.htm

And we know that microwave ovens work, mobile phones work and satellite GPS works, so not everything about science is wrong.

That leaves you with interpreting the Adam & Eve story as an allegory (for something) or as a method that the people of that time used to convey religious and cultural values.

It doesn’t make sense on any level to me, but I accept that others find meaning there.

Assume that Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth and that they were of the same race. Their continued offspring would have had to evolve into all the different ethnic people of the world and this is hard to fault because otherwise there would not be such a variety of humans around the world. That is, evolution would have had to take place for the changes to occur. If that part of evolution is accepted why not the whole of evolution from primitive life to successively more complex life? Adam was possibly a complex molecule, which had not yet triggered into life.

The Bible, Tora and Qur’an does not say this, however. God made Adam in his own image, a fully modern human being. These books are wrong.

You have to accept evolution in its entirety and not pick bits, which fit in the gaps in the story presented in the aforementioned books.
Can you explain better on how evolution has affected the human race starting from Adam.
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:58pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
But theory of Evolution is science.
If Evolution is not true then how did we get Asians, Caucasians and Africans from Adam and Eve’s genes?
Between them, who was Chinese, Indian, African or European? If none, then how did we get all these races?

Genesis chapter 11
Explained how God confused man's language and from there people that speak the same language began moving towards the same place. As for our colour thousands of years in different locations of the earth changed people's looks but their language remains the one their ancestors first spoke at Babel! smiley
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:58pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
...You have to accept evolution in its entirety and not pick bits, which fit in the gaps in the story presented in the aforementioned books.

See, now they are begging us to accept a Lie.

Genesis 1 is now already irrefutably proven True exactly the way you catch a child that is not your own even when you are not there when your wife fuqs another man.

Truth Rules and Lies never stand even if you beg and bribe people to accept it.
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 2:00pm On Dec 02, 2022
Michael547:

Can you explain better on how evolution has affected the human race starting from Adam.
Evolution is the change in gene frequency in a population of organisms.
This happens via mutations and recombination of genes, leading to variations.

If evolution is not true, how did we get racial variation as a result of change in gene frequencies From Adam and Eve?

Cos if variations and gene frequencies didn’t change and drift, everyone will look exactly like Adam and Eve or either of them or a combined exactly replica of Abel And Cain.

Without evolution, Cain and Abel will be exact same replica

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 2:04pm On Dec 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Genesis chapter 11
Explained how God confused man's language and from there people that speak the same language began moving towards the same place. As for our colour thousands of years in different locations of the earth changed people's looks but their language remains the one their ancestors first spoke at Babel! smiley
The question is clear:
If evolution is not true then among Adam and Eve, whos Caucasian, whos Asian or African?

How did we get all these racial skin and eye color?

How did an Arabian Adam become a block Seun?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:07pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
Evolution is the change in gene frequency in a population of organisms.
This happens via mutations and recombination of genes, leading to variations.

If evolution is not true, how did we get racial variation as a result of change in gene frequencies From Adam and Eve?

If you change the genes and stuff in your iPhone or Camry would it not spoil (die)?

When your liver gets damaged is it not that you look for spare part liver?

Since Adam man has not gotten 2 joysticks.
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 2:11pm On Dec 02, 2022
Michael547:

I get your point. But does the fossils that are found today prove that ancient animals evolved into different kinds of animals today?
Yes it does, the reason it does is because you can find them in a specific arrangement in the strata of the earth crust, which when you date them shows that one of them comes from the other.

For example, there’s never going to be a time when you will find a fossil of an Ape where you find that of Dinosaurs, this is because Apes didn’t live with Dinosaurs. However, we have evidence that crocodiles roamed with Dinosaurs because we can find crocodile fossils in the same stratum where we find that of dinosaurs.

This gives clear indication that Crocodiles roamed this earth before apes come on board.

If you argue this then explain to me how come we always do not find Ape fossils farther than 5million years ago?
Where did Apes come from if the earth is 4.6billion years?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:12pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
The question is clear:
If evolution is not true then among Adam and Eve, whos Caucasian, whos Asian or African?

How did we get all these racial skin and eye color?

How did an Arabian Adam become a block Seun?

Is it not God that gave them colours and sizes exactly as Mr. Toyoda is the one who gives the Camry its many colours and varieties and sizes?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Michael547(m): 2:14pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
Evolution is the change in gene frequency in a population of organisms.
This happens via mutations and recombination of genes, leading to variations.

If evolution is not true, how did we get racial variation as a result of change in gene frequencies From Adam and Eve?

Cos if variations and gene frequencies didn’t change and drift, everyone will look exactly like Adam and Eve or either of them or a combined exactly replica of Abel And Cain.

Without evolution, Cain and Abel will be exact same replica
Ok are you trying to say that mutation and variation is the same as evolution? Cause the theory of evolution teaches that changes can occur within a specific organism and completely change it to another organism. Wheareas mutation and variation do not biologically change an organism to a different one but most times changes physical properties of a kind of organism while the organism remains biologically the same. For example while we have different colours of humans, we are still biologically made up of the same stock. So which one?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:16pm On Dec 02, 2022
Osamabinladenik:
really?
If Evolution is not science so how come we are here and we haven't gone extinct?

Can iPhone or Camry go extinct without Dem Steve Jobs and Mr. Toyoda?

Man cannot extinct until God Says He is not continuing production.
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:19pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
The question is clear:
If evolution is not true then among Adam and Eve, whos Caucasian, whos Asian or African?

How did we get all these racial skin and eye color?

How did an Arabian Adam become a block Seun?

SCIENCE agreed difference in circumstances and temperature of geographical locations on this planet do affect the looks of creatures living there. So help yourself! wink
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 2:20pm On Dec 02, 2022
Michael547:

Ok are you trying to say that mutation and variation is the same as evolution? Cause the theory of evolution teaches that changes can occur within a specific organism and completely change it to another organism. Wheareas mutation and variation do not biologically change an organism to a different one but most times changes physical properties of a kind of organism while the organism remains biologically the same. For example while we have different colours of humans, we are still biologically made up of the same stock. So which one?
Mutation and variation is the basis of evolution, it’s the driver for evolution.
That’s actual what evolution is. Without variation,the diversity we have today will be impossible and you and I won’t be here today

However, when mutation and recombination occurs over a long period of time, to an extent that the resultant species can no longer mate with the parent species, speciation occurs.

I see that you do not really understand evolution, you have the impression that evolution is when another organism becomes another, no. Evolution is the little change that occurs at every point of reproduction that is passed than to offsprings.

With time, these changes accumulate and are driven by natural selection, which then eventually may cause speciation.


Speciation: When a species can no longer mate with any of its ancestral species.

An example of recent speciation can be seen in the emergence of a new species of a Galapagos finch that can no longer mate with their existing parent species, they can only mate with themselves and they evolved into another species few decades ago.

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Workch: 2:22pm On Dec 02, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


SCIENCE agreed difference in circumstances and temperature of geographical locations on this planet do affect the looks of creatures living there. So help yourself! wink
wjo was African between Adam and Eve.

Answer that question

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Michael547(m): 2:22pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:
Yes it does, the reason it does is because you can find them in a specific arrangement in the strata of the earth crust, which when you date them shows that one of them comes from the other.

For example, there’s never going to be a time when you will find a fossil of an Ape where you find that of Dinosaurs, this is because Apes didn’t live with Dinosaurs. However, we have evidence that crocodiles roamed with Dinosaurs because we can find crocodile fossils in the same stratum where we find that of dinosaurs.

This gives clear indication that Crocodiles roamed this earth before apes come on board.

If you argue this then explain to me how come we always do not find Ape fossils farther than 5million years ago?
Where did Apes come from if the earth is 4.6billion years?
I get your point. But does the fact that crocodiles roamed with dinosaurs gives scientific proof that they evolved from dinosaurs? If apes are not found to be roaming with dinosaurs and have been existing for about 5 million years till today, does that not suggest that they could have come suddenly?
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:23pm On Dec 02, 2022
Workch:

If you argue this then explain to me how come we always do not find Ape fossils farther than 5million years ago?
Where did Apes come from if the earth is 4.6billion years?

Please who recorded the events 5million years and 4.6billions years ago? cheesy

You guys just think because you want to hide under science you can fool everyone!

Real SCIENCE (SENSE) made us understand that life on this planet began in less than 7,000 years so who recorded your 4.6billion years account? cheesy
Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Osamabinladenik: 2:23pm On Dec 02, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Can iPhone or Camry go extinct without Dem Steve Jobs and Mr. Toyoda?

Man cannot extinct until God Says He is not continuing production.
who's this mumu?

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Re: If The Adam And Eve Story Is True, It Means That Every Science Is Lie. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:25pm On Dec 02, 2022
Osamabinladenik:
who's this mumu?

The one who cures your mumulocus errors.

Idiot who does not want to remember that he is a toy a doll baby with an unseen battery and has A Creator.

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