HeadNigga:
That's a honest man right there. Some other persons would have told you it was just hard work. You work hard pass everybody for your village? Luck plays a key role

It is not luck, it is discipline.
If they give you 5 million naira right now, you will not know what to do with it, bam the thing Don finish, or you will not know how to multiply that money (the knowledge over time).

PoliteActivist:


You are confusing yourself. Based on what events? What determined you being born into poverty in Naija with a lazy spirit, as opposed to being born wealthy in US with a hustling spirit?

Point of correction,I was not born with a lazy spirit or into poverty and I have never seen an American better than I am, back to your argument.

Let me explain this:

A young man plays a lottery and wins 200 million dollars(Luck), he works very hard to grow the money but somehow problems keep coming up in various aspects of his life, He falls sick, he was duped, his family members squandered his money, all these are happening over a long period of time(ungraceful) because it is continuous he ends up becoming poor.

Another man did not win a lottery but somehow he also worked hard and he was able to save and things were going fine to him and over a long period of time he became rich(grace).

Both of them were rich at some point, grace sustains while luck needs grace to function in its full capacity, luck might get you something but grace is needed to sustain it...

I am alive today because of grace.

Fira09:


SOURCE

where is the place of God when you attribute ur success to luck.

MR TONY,I TAP FROM U BLESSINGS.LUCK WILL COME TO ME TOO

Brendaniel:


Point of correction,I was not born with a lazy spirit or into poverty and I have never seen an American better than I am, back to your argument.

Let me explain this:

A young man plays a lottery and wins 200 million dollars(Luck), he works very hard to grow the money but somehow problems keep coming up in various aspects of his life, He falls sick, he was duped, his family members squandered his money, all these are happening over a long period of time(ungraceful) because it is continuous he ends up becoming poor.

Another man did not win a lottery but somehow he also worked hard and he was able to save and things were going fine to him and over a long period of time he became rich(grace).

Both of them were rich at some point, grace sustains while luck needs grace to function in its full capacity, luck might get you something but grace is needed to sustain it...

I am alive today because of grace.

Your thoughts are inspired of divinity. Thanks for sharing, wise one.

Akalia:
Your thoughts are inspired of divinity. Thanks for sharing, wise one.

You're welcome...

Realist12:
Saw the tweets earlier today , the funny thing is" I too know" people who always have opinion about another person's life story, yet are confused themselves.
Social media is really funny . Dudes lecturing who they ought to beg to lecture them.
A lot of people need to learn about perception we see things in different ways . Some of us will not be where we are today if not for our parents, schools, pains, struggles and community none of which we choose ourselves.

Brah, don't let them deceive u biko, hear it loud and clear: THERE'S NOTHING LIKE 'LUCK'
Whoever gets ahead in ds life does so as a result of his/her access to LIGHT. That light can be gotten either thru d divine or thru d kingdom of darkness.

Even Jesus Christ (d Messiah) was approached by d king of this world to bow down in worship to him so dt he can access d riches, fame and power of this world.

It would've bn better if Elumelu had told his audience dt he plucks dollars from d tree at back of his house than ds bull crap!

Akaekpuchiowa:



Tony Elumelu, there is nothing like luck is either God is favouring you or you are been favoured by Satan

Pls, loudit biko!

tasalanoni:
This man has a lot of questions to answer about his wealth.
The time he spends on the social media and personality cult doesn't speak well of a genuine businessman. Personal image and clout chasing seem more important to him than his businesses

What is this one saying? Were you alive when STB bought UBA?

Even the mere act of becoming an embryo is luck. Out of millions of sperm, one fused with the ovum. So everyone here already won a lottery.

toffyz:


Sir Alex Ferguson once said the same thing in the past, regarding his successful managerial career.
"To be a successful manager, you need a bit of luck!"

Hardwork, commitment, passion, diligence alone doesn't make a successful man or Woman.

We should try and pray for luck most times

Yes o, and a bit of Referee Howard Webb to d mix!

Realist12:
Saw the tweets earlier today , the funny thing is" I too know" people who always have opinion about another person's life story, yet are confused themselves.
Social media is really funny . Dudes lecturing who they ought to beg to lecture them.
A lot of people need to learn about perception we see things in different ways . Some of us will not be where we are today if not for our parents, schools, pains, struggles and community none of which we choose ourselves.




One question you should ask is , is Tony Elumelu, Dangote, Bill gate , Mark Zuckerberg etc the most hardworking people in their field ? The earlier you understand we are living in a Matrix the better for you. A lot of people have potentials but find themselves in the wrong field, poor health , accidents , countries etc that has limited their potentials .
From my perspective I'd say it's fate .
Imagine someone saying it's connection there are people who have networks but can't utilize it because they are in the wrong settings .

Some of the people you have mentioned are not worth lecturing anyone cos they deal more with illicit wealth. Don't be deceived.

PoliteActivist:


Another shallow thinker
Everything is luck. THINK about it

Your eye never clear

Brendaniel:


Point of correction,I was not born with a lazy spirit or into poverty and I have never seen an American better than I am, back to your argument.

Let me explain this:

A young man plays a lottery and wins 200 million dollars(Luck), he works very hard to grow the money but somehow problems keep coming up in various aspects of his life, He falls sick, he was duped, his family members squandered his money, all these are happening over a long period of time(ungraceful) because it is continuous he ends up becoming poor.

Another man did not win a lottery but somehow he also worked hard and he was able to save and things were going fine to him and over a long period of time he became rich(grace).

Both of them were rich at some point, grace sustains while luck needs grace to function in its full capacity, luck might get you something but grace is needed to sustain it...

I am alive today because of grace.

Akalia:
Your thoughts are inspired of divinity. Thanks for sharing, wise one.

Oh, when the outcome is good you call it grace!
Can't you see that it all basically boils down to luck and not due to anything you particularly did. Another person can do exactly same and get different results.
See below

Daguga:


Your eye never clear

If you were born with Elon Musk's brains, upbringing, and background, you'd probably also be a billionaire and screaming to everybody that luck has nothing to do with it!

ICEWIN:


Hard work without result means u need soap.
#bewise

Lol....
Hmmmm!!!!!

brandsoncharlie:

It is not luck, it is discipline.
If they give you 5 million naira right now, you will not know what to do with it, bam the thing Don finish, or you will not know how to multiply that money (the knowledge over time).

And what determined that you are born with a personality amenable to discipline as opposed to one that is not?? Can't you see that it all boils down to LUCK?

richie240:

Brah, don't let them deceive u biko, hear it loud and clear: THERE'S NOTHING LIKE 'LUCK'
Whoever gets ahead in ds life does so as a result of his/her access to LIGHT. That light can be gotten either thru d divine or thru d kingdom of darkness.

Even Jesus Christ (d Messiah) was approached by d king of this world to bow down in worship to him so dt he can access d riches, fame and power of this world.

It would've bn better if Elumelu had told his audience dt he plucks dollars from d tree at back of his house than ds bull crap!

Pls, loudit biko!

Akaekpuchiowa:

Tony Elumelu, there is nothing like luck is either God is favouring you or you are been favoured by Satan

If you really THINK, you'd realize everything is luck.
You have to be lucky enough to be in a position to be exposed to that light and lucky enough to be born with a personality that would accept it.
IT IS ALL LUCK!

PoliteActivist:

Oh, when the outcome is good you call it grace!
Can't you see that it all basically boils down to luck and not due to anything you particularly did. Another person can do exactly same and get different results.
See below

Grace is unmerited favour, I only gave an illustration to explain that grace operates on higher law than luck, that was why I said both of them worked hard but one was lucky while the other was graceful, grace is higher than luck, that's why we should pray for grace and not just luck.

Grace works with plenty while luck works with few and I will explain.

Think about this, in a lottery it is designed to pick only one person or a few persons, like out of 1 million people only maybe 10 might be the lucky winners, so what happens to the remaining over 9 million people.

Now imagine if human beings were to sleep and wake up by the same luck, let's say Nigeria 200 million people sleep everyday and luck was to select a few to wake up, how many will wake up, remember this happens everyday, now that is where grace comes in, grace gives unmerited Favour to everyone regardless of being lazy, wicked, ritualist and so on because it gives everyone equal opportunity, luck does not do that.

That is why Christ's salvation is given by grace to everyone whether good deeds or bad deeds, the opportunity for salvation was given to everyone, luck does not have that ability.

Because it will select only a few and leave the rest to their fate, if everybody where to play the lottery with grace almost everybody will win, that is what grace does, it works on a higher principle than luck...

Brendaniel:


Grace is unmerited favour, I only gave an illustration to explain that grace operates on higher law than luck, that was why I said both of them worked hard but one was lucky while the other was graceful, grace is higher than luck, that's why we should pray for grace and not just luck.

Grace works with plenty while luck works with few and I will explain.

Think about this, in a lottery it is designed to pick only one person or a few persons, like out of 1 million people only maybe 10 might be the lucky winners, so what happens to the remaining over 9 million people.

Now imagine if human beings were to sleep and wake up by the same luck, let's say Nigeria 200 million people sleep everyday and luck was to select a few to wake up, how many will wake up, remember this happens everyday, now that is where grace comes in, grace gives unmerited Favour to everyone regardless of being lazy, wicked, ritualist and so on because it gives everyone equal opportunity, luck does not do that.

That is why Christ's salvation is given by grace to everyone whether good deeds or bad deeds, the opportunity for salvation was given to everyone, luck does not have that ability.

Because it will select only a few and leave the rest to their fate, if everybody where to play the lottery with grace almost everybody will win, that is what grace does, it works on a higher principle than luck...

In other words YOUR name for sustained luck is grace! It is no longer sustained luck!
As for numbers, let's go to the very beginning. See below. How about all the quadrillion sperms that didn't make it? Where's their grace? How does that tally with your thesis?

PoliteActivist:


In other words YOUR name for sustained luck is grace! It is no longer sustained luck!
As for numbers, let's go to the very beginning. See below. How about all the quadrillion sperms that didn't make it? Where's their grace? How does that tally with your thesis?

I never said luck does not exist, I said for luck to function in its full capacity, it needs grace

Luck is deductive while grace is inclusive...

Brendaniel:


I never said luck does not exist, I said for luck to function in its full capacity, it needs grace

Luck is deductive while grace is inclusive...

What you should say is that grace is DIVINE favor bestowed on an individual for a REASON only God knows.

It has nothing to do with luck. Luck is NOT based on reason.

As far as we human beings can see, everything originates with luck - even God's grace. Example; from birth, God hated Esau. Why? Only God knows, but as far as we humans can see: LUCK!

PoliteActivist:


What you should say is that grace is DIVINE favor bestowed on an individual for a REASON only God knows.

It has nothing to do with luck. Luck is NOT based on reason.

As far as we human beings can see, everything originates with luck - even God's grace. Example; from birth, God hated Esau. Why? Only God knows, but as far as we humans can see: LUCK!

but that was I said in the beginning and for the rest It's not a must we must agree, but we can still be friends, I like your quote on your profile, Everything is energy and the frequency stuff, I've done some deep thinking in that direction too.

Brendaniel:
Someone said Luck is the currency of the weak.

I believe in grace

Nothing like grace it's luck...grace is available for everyone but luck is not. Some are more lucky than others.

headboyprince:

Nothing like grace it's luck...grace is available for everyone but luck is not. Some are more lucky than others.

But if you were to choose one, which will you choose, grace or luck?

sonature1:
Tony Elumelu is not a core Christian.

Christians call it grace, not luck.

God's grace is never merited.

Grace what?? So why isn't everyone rich. Isn't God's grace sufficient for everyone. This is pure luck.

Being born into a rich family is nothing more than pure luck...
Not having any disability that can hold you at bay is nothing more than luck...

Revolution2022:
One way Or the other,you have an underhand dealings.

Abi now.
Or how does a staff of Standard Trust Bank become owner overnight and even take over the parent company - Continental Trust Bank?

fetrillion:



Thanks boss.

Oga tony disappointed me big time with that quote.
You are where you are by Grace..

You've been brainwashed by your pastor. Grace is available for everyone. Luck isn't..can you use grace to win the lottery....

papagiddy:
He said LUCK..... IT CANT BE BY LUCK SIR....ITS God.... through His grace, favour and mercies. Paul said.." but by the grace...".I am what i am ......" 1 Corinthians 15:10 Luck for where

Why do most Christian read bible ignorantly With all the grace, mercy and favour how many kingdom did Paul build. Instead he was moving from one jail to the other and later got beheaded.

So grace, favour and mercy doesn't make one extremely successful, Luck plays a huge role..

Brendaniel:


But if you were to choose one, which will you choose, grace or luck?

what you call grace is luck.. his grace is sufficient for everyone but you luck isn't. That's why some people are richer than others.

Revolution2022:
One way Or the other,you have an underhand dealings.

Some tried it but where not as lucky.
Do you understand his drift now?

Nawwww! A person is a person because of another person. SMH

Brendaniel:


but that was I said in the beginning and for the rest It's not a must we must agree, but we can still be friends, I like your quote on your profile, Everything is energy and the frequency stuff, I've done some deep thinking in that direction too.

Thanks. Nice chatting witcha.
If you really think about it, unless we somehow participated in creating ourselves and in determining where and to whom we were born, as far as we human beings can see, everything originates with luck - including God's favor/grace!