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Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op):
It is an anatomical fact that we are a modern ape species, part of a series of humanoid apes species.

We accept that the first such species evolved about 2 million years ago, while the latest, Homo sapiens (that’s us), first appeared about 300,000 years ago. This is because we find fossils that can be dated, and we can see how the skeletal structure has gradually evolved from one form to another.

We thus have a working model of which species evolved into which, and this model is being continually refined as we discover more and more fossil remains.
The ape species in existence today are humans, Gorillas, Chimpanzees, Bonobos and Orangutans are great Apes, while 16 species of Gibbons are lesser apes.

What are the characteristics of Apes?
1. All apes usually have fingernails instead of claws. Though they're made of the same substance, keratin, biologists distinguish between claws and nails. Both grow from the ends of digits (fingers and toes), but claws are curved and pointed, where nails are flat and dull.

2. Opposable thumbs: a thumb, that is to say, that is capable of being moved freely and independently. Only apes have this ability even monkeys don’t.

3. padded digits with fingerprints: only apes have fingerprints. Koalas also have fingerprints however do not meet other criteria to be classified as Apes.

4. Unlike other primates, Apes do not have tails.

So humans have all the characteristics of a primate which has fallen within a superfamily called Hominoidea (Ape)
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:44am On Nov 30, 2022
So your own ancestors are monkeys shey?

We have heard you! grin

Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Judybash93(m):
MaxInDHouse:
So your own ancestors are monkeys shey?

We have heard you! grin
At least try to learn something!
No one is saying that you're a monkey but that we share a common ancestor from millions of years ago. That's a fact.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:11am On Nov 30, 2022
Judybash93:
At least try to learn something!
No one is saying that you're a monkey buy that we share a common ancestor from million of years ago. That's a fact.
OK do you believe that snakes and donkeys also talked thousands of years ago? cheesy
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:13am On Nov 30, 2022
Judybash93:
At least try to learn something!
No one is saying that you're a monkey buy that we share a common ancestor from million of years ago. That's a fact.
So because mannequin resembles doll baby they share ancestor?

Or because Oshiomhole resembles Obasanjo then therefore they have common ancestors?

You people are taking resemblance to the level of stupidity.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Judybash93(m): 9:17am On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
OK do you believe that snakes and donkeys also talked thousands of years ago? cheesy
Nope. I don't believe it
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by holocron: 9:19am On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
OK do you believe that snakes and donkeys also talked thousands of years ago? cheesy
No scientific evidence of that, my friend. DNA research has confirmed the relationship between ape and man - genes of man and chimpanzee is 99% similar. You don't have problems with Dna confirmation, do you? I guess not because you are very quick to use it to confirm paternity of your baby.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Judybash93(m): 9:20am On Nov 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
So because mannequin resembles doll baby they share ancestor?

Or because Oshiomhole resembles Obasanjo then therefore they have common ancestors?

You people are taking resemblance to the level of stupidity.
You are the one exposing your ignorance over here.
There's enough evidence to prove this. There are DNA evidences to prove the relation we have with these species. Moreover, we have enough fossil record to also link our ancestry to this.
If i may ask, do you think we aren't related or do you think we were created by a god?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Judybash93(m): 9:21am On Nov 30, 2022
holocron:
No scientific evidence of that, my friend. DNA research has confirmed the relationship between ape and man - genes of man and chimpanzee is 99% similar. You don't have problems with Dna confirmation, do you? I guess not because you are very quick to use it to confirm paternity of your baby.
They wouldn't have problems with that because it fulfills their agenda.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Pastsoul: 9:29am On Nov 30, 2022
Then what create the ape how where they form, where they just ape on the planet
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:31am On Nov 30, 2022
Judybash93:
You are the one exposing your ignorance over here.
There's enough evidence to prove this. There are DNA evidences to prove the relation we have with these species. Moreover, we have enough fossil record to also link our ancestry to this.
If i may ask, do you think we aren't related or do you think we were created by a god?
A Camry and an Accord are related A mannequin and a doll baby are related. Without DNA we already know these things. We see the relationship.

So what is the problem if it is not that we know that men are trying to make lift themselves up to claim they are the ones who created the universe and that they know how to create it?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:32am On Nov 30, 2022
Judybash93:
Nope. I don't believe it
So how do you expect me to argue nonsense that apes now talks? undecided
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:33am On Nov 30, 2022
holocron:
No scientific evidence of that, my friend. DNA research has confirmed the relationship between ape and man - genes of man and chimpanzee is 99% similar. You don't have problems with Dna confirmation, do you? I guess not because you are very quick to use it to confirm paternity of your baby.
DNA is all about creatures in their likeness not creatures that can't talk suddenly became talkatives by chance! smiley
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:53am On Nov 30, 2022
holocron:
No scientific evidence of that, my friend. DNA research has confirmed the relationship between ape and man - genes of man and chimpanzee is 99% similar. You don't have problems with Dna confirmation, do you? I guess not because you are very quick to use it to confirm paternity of your baby.
We have been using our ability of confirming that which is true since we were started growing. So, without DNA we have been catching children who were not born by specific couple in focus or confirming when people are lying all done without the use of DNA.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 9:54am On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So how do you expect me to argue nonsense that apes now talks? undecided
Parrots talk unlike other birds, is that a criteria for relationship? Keep your emotional attachment aside and reason logically. You choose not to belive evolution but you believe in mutation?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Judybash93(m): 9:58am On Nov 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
A Camry and an Accord are related A mannequin and a doll baby are related. Without DNA we already know these things. We see the relationship.

So what is the problem if it is not that we know that men are trying to make lift themselves up to claim they are the ones who created the universe and that they know how to create it?

lol... I actually didn't look at the name before engaging ya! Have a great day
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:59am On Nov 30, 2022
Skankamola:
Parrots talk unlike other birds, is that a criteria for relationship? Keep your emotional attachment aside and reason logically. You choose not to belive evolution but you believe in mutation?
If you kept chickens you would also know that they too communicate with us too.

Doesn't relationship mean connection?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:54am On Nov 30, 2022
Skankamola:
Parrots talk unlike other birds, is that a criteria for relationship? Keep your emotional attachment aside and reason logically. You choose not to belive evolution but you believe in mutation?
All you need to ask me is:
Why i choose one and ignore the other?

If you choose evolution and ignore creation then i also have a right to choose one and ignore the other but then what is the motive behind our choice?

That's what any right thinking person need to figure out! smiley
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 12:03pm On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So your own ancestors are monkeys shey?

We have heard you! grin
dullard, who said anyone evolved from monkeys?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op):
Pastsoul:
Then what create the ape how where they form, where they just ape on the planet
Apes evolved from other primates, specifically Apes evolved from catarrhines
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:07pm On Nov 30, 2022
Workch:
dullard, who said anyone evolved from monkeys?
Well at least we all know that monkeys are the closest families of APES not humans that can talk about invent new things! grin
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 12:08pm On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Well at least we all know that monkeys are the closest families of APES not humans that can talk about invent new things! grin
Jesus and all humans are apes
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:12pm On Nov 30, 2022
Workch:
Jesus and all humans are apes
That's exactly how APES feels not until humans start talking, writing, reading and reasoning that a beast will realize we are not the same! smiley
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 12:19pm On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
All you need to ask me is:
Why i choose one and ignore the other?

If you choose evolution and ignore creation then i also have a right to choose one and ignore the other but then what is the motive behind our choice?

That's what any right thinking person need to figure out! smiley
If you are thinking right you should know theres alot of logical evidence in favour or evolution as against creation.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Nov 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
If you kept chickens you would also know that they too communicate with us too.

Doesn't relationship mean connection?
All animals communicate one way or another, thats not the point here.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:00pm On Nov 30, 2022
Skankamola:
If you are thinking right you should know theres alot of logical evidence in favour or evolution as against creation.
We don't need arguments just present a talking APE and you'll have it. But in the absence of a talking APE only creation makes sense to me! winksmiley
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 1:27pm On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
We don't need arguments just present a talking APE and you'll have it. But in the absence of a talking APE only creation makes sense to me! winksmiley
But animals communicate aming themselves with sounds and other means, and like you already know parrots can phonate just like man so why is that so relevant to you? If talking is the key then parrots and man share direct ancestors right? The problem with creation stories is you find them in almost every culture, and most times they are flawed with no evidence. How did dinosaurs fit in noahs ark for instance? How many days was "the world" or universe created? Where does the universe begin and does it have an endhuh The stars are like the sun each with constellation of planets hovering about, is it only the sun and our earth that has life in the universehuh Think
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:58pm On Nov 30, 2022
Skankamola:
But animals communicate aming themselves with sounds and other means, and like you already know parrots can phonate just like man so why is that so relevant to you? If talking is the key then parrots and man share direct ancestors right? The problem with creation stories is you find them in almost every culture, and most times they are flawed with no evidence. How did dinosaurs fit in noahs ark for instance? How many days was "the world" or universe created? Where does the universe begin and does it have an endhuh The stars are like the sun each with constellation of planets hovering about, is it only the sun and our earth that has life in the universehuh Think
Guy you can only appeal to my reasoning with the presentation of a talking APE.

Remember you've not even asked me why i prefer creation to evolution! smiley
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by oteneaaron(m): 2:27pm On Nov 30, 2022
Workch:
It is an anatomical fact that we are a modern ape species, part of a series of humanoid apes species.

We accept that the first such species evolved about 2 million years ago, while the latest, Homo sapiens (that’s us), first appeared about 300,000 years ago. This is because we find fossils that can be dated, and we can see how the skeletal structure has gradually evolved from one form to another.

We thus have a working model of which species evolved into which, and this model is being continually refined as we discover more and more fossil remains.
The ape species in existence today are humans, Gorillas, Chimpanzees, Bonobos and Orangutans are great Apes, while 16 species of Gibbons are lesser apes.

What are the characteristics of Apes?
1. All apes usually have fingernails instead of claws. Though they're made of the same substance, keratin, biologists distinguish between claws and nails. Both grow from the ends of digits (fingers and toes), but claws are curved and pointed, where nails are flat and dull.

2. Opposable thumbs: a thumb, that is to say, that is capable of being moved freely and independently. Only apes have this ability even monkeys don’t.

3. padded digits with fingerprints: only apes have fingerprints. Koalas also have fingerprints however do not meet other criteria to be classified as Apes.

4. Unlike other primates, Apes do not have tails.

So humans have all the characteristics of a primate which has fallen within a superfamily called Hominoidea (Ape)
Interesting.

I agree with you.

Altho, the Neanderthals aka Home Erectus are more of our closest relatives than the Primate family.

But indeed, we are all from one super family.

Just to digress, it quite fascinating to note that the story of creation as narrated by the ancient Sumerians, spoke of when Enki in an effort to create modern man - Homo Sapien, he had to do countless experiments by mixing the DNA of existing Primates with the genes of the Annunaki thereby creating the Homo Erectus and eventually, the Homo Sapien.

This book written by Lloyd PYE titled - Everything You Know is Wrong, is quite an eye opener.

In that book, he destroys some Darwinism and connects ancient history to the development of man from Homo Erectus to Homo Sapien.

For added research, here is a link to a video of his:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnRrGKYpnI4
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 2:52pm On Nov 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Guy you can only appeal to my reasoning with the presentation of a talking APE.

Remember you've not even asked me why i prefer creation to evolution! smiley
Mr man you have your talking parrot since speaking is the big deal, why must it be an ape?

Whatever your reason still does not beat the evidence availble in science. A simple mutation alters the appearance of a creature, several mutations does the trick over millions of years. Its not so difficult to phantom.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:53pm On Nov 30, 2022
Skankamola:
All animals communicate one way or another, thats not the point here.
The point is that a lot of things in this world are connected to us.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 2:56pm On Nov 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
The point is that a lot of things in this world are connected to us.
Connected in what way? Everybeing communicates one way or another with its environment, thats just natural
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