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CoolUsername:
Source of the NYT was anonymous. The NYT reported that US intelligence came to that conclusion without naming anyone. However, it was never concluded.

At least we know the laptop story came from Bannon and Giuliani and the Post did some basic due diligence and got a statement from the owner of the shop where the laptop was abandoned.

PDPGuy:
How exactly does Newsom plan to raise such an amount? Lol

saxywale2:
Did Trump Suggest Injecting Disinfectant Could Be COVID-19 Treatment? Correct attribution.

Some MAGAt interpreted it at just that and started injesting the substance.

saxywale2:
It came from US intelligence. Never in dispute from when the news broke out.

The laptop story - From a repair shop via Giuliani.

The time difference too is substantial. Months to elections vs about 3 weeks to election.

CoolUsername:
There was a woman who claimed that her husband had done that but it was later found that she poisoned him.

These were Trump's statements:

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

He continued.

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."


Basic research

saxywale2:
It came from US intelligence. Never in dispute from when the news broke out.

saxywale2:
Did Trump Suggest Injecting Disinfectant Could Be COVID-19 Treatment? Correct attribution.

Some MAGAt interpreted it at just that and started injesting the substance.

CoolUsername:
It came from an anonymous source.
US intelligence's official position is that the rumors were unverified.

basilico:
He never He asked Dr Fauci and Birx whether they would come up with a disinfectant that would clear the virus that Fauci financed. It was evident that bleach would clear the virus from door knobs etc,
Media ran away with the claim that consumes you

CoolUsername:
You're really bending over backwards to justify unelected officials stifling freedom of press.

Why should the time of the news matter to a fxcking social network?

saxywale2:
There were lots of calls to poison centers and not just ONE woman.

Cleaning agent companies were releasing warnings to advise people against ingesting bleach too.

Him clarifying his statement was damage control.

saxywale2:
So it is the government that should stiffle freedom of press right? For your information, I don't support both
I.e. private citizen or The US gov under Trump.

CoolUsername:
You still haven't shown where he told people drink bleach.

How is him clarifying his statement after a follow up from a reporter damage control? It was during the same briefing. There was literally no damage to control.

Basic research.

Ibime:
No one cares about smear politics

Far-right keep flogging a dead horse that won't benefit them at the polls

The public see through "digging dirt" election strategies by now. 5 years of Trump have made this shyt of little impact. Campaign on your policies, not whose son sniffed crack and fúcked prostitutes.

CoolUsername:
You still haven't shown where he told people drink bleach.

How is him clarifying his statement after a follow up from a reporter damage control? It was during the same briefing. There was literally no damage to control.

Basic research.

benalvino3:
Voltron... If no one cared why did they kill the story?

You were here defending a thief who stole investors money because he donated to dems... You are here once more doing voltron.

CoolUsername:
The article has a list of timestamps were Google staff showed their bias and desire to do everything within their power to control the narrative.

CoolUsername:
Check wikipedia, Fox News, Sky News AU, Breitbart, etc are all explicitly described as right wing or conservative news outlets. In comparison, MSNBC is not.
Furthermore, they do not have a monopoly on the news, you can simply watch CNN, MSNBC, CBS news, etc. which most people do. It's not quite the same story with Google's search engine, Twitter, or Meta.

CoolUsername:
I stopped reading at the point where you said that Trump told people to drink bleach. It simply means you are either unwilling or incapable of doing even most basic amount of research before parroting left-wing talking points.

saxywale2:
The Trump adminstration did not deny the intelligence. What they said was Trump wasn't breifed on the intelligence report about the bounty program.

In a statement late Saturday Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said he had “confirmed that neither the President nor the Vice President were ever briefed on any intelligence” related to a Russian bounty, and that all news reports “about an alleged briefing are inaccurate.”

CoolUsername:
According to NBC news:

The Biden administration made clear Thursday that the CIA has only "low to moderate confidence" in its intel on alleged Russian bounties for U.S. troops.

saxywale2:
.A year later bah

You sef said Intel

Thanks for proving my point.

basilico:
I repeat . Trump told nobody to drink bleach. He made a request to Dr Fauci to come up with a bleach formula to wipe out covid, inject it whatever Get rid of covid.

CoolUsername:
That's their official position on the matter. Or are you saying that US Intel briefed the NYT before briefing Trump?

basilico:
I repeat . Trump told nobody to drink bleach. He made a request to Dr Fauci to come up with a bleach formula to wipe out covid, inject it whatever Get rid of covid.

IjeBos:
I think you're missing the point of the Presidential Bully Pulpit. Whatever the President says has incredible power. That's why most US President's stick to a written script or are very careful with there chosen words. He should not have been on a podium jawboning about something he knew nothing about. A lot of people took his words as a SUGGETION of something they should try. And some people did try it.

CoolUsername:
Do you also think the FBI telling Facebook to remove the Hunter Biden story is a First Amendment issue or are you a shameless hypocrite?

IjeBos:
I think you're missing the point of the Presidential Bully Pulpit. Whatever the President says has incredible power. That's why most US President's stick to a written script or are very careful with there chosen words. He should not have been on a podium jawboning about something he knew nothing about. A lot of people took his words as a SUGGETION of something they should try. And some people did try it.

benalvino3:
The press said a lot of things for the president. The very fine people lie and many more.

adamusuleiman11:
LONG POST ALERT.
Summary of Musk Twitter Release:

For days, Twitter owner Elon Musk had teased a massive bombshell disclosure based on internal company documents that he claimed would reveal "what really happened" inside Twitter when it decided to temporarily suppress a 2020 New York Post story about Hunter Biden and his laptop.

But on Friday, instead of releasing a trove of documents to the public, Musk's big reveal pointed to a series of tweets by the journalist Matt Taibbi, who had been provided with emails that largely corroborated what was already known about the incident.

Attracting thousands of retweets, Taibbi's winding tweet thread reaffirmed how, in the initial hours after the Post story went live, TWITTER EMPLOYEES GRAPPLED WITH FEARS that it could have been the result of a RUSSIAN HACKING OPERATION.

It showed employees on Twitter's legal, policy and communications teams debating -- and at times disagreeing -- over whether to restrict the article under the company's hacked materials policy, weeks before the 2020 election, where Joe Biden, Hunter Biden's father, ran against then-President Donald Trump.

While some questioned the basis for the decision and warned that Twitter would be inviting allegations of anti-conservative bias, others within the company, including senior officials, said the circumstances surrounding the Post story were unclear and recommended caution, according to screenshots of internal communications shared by Taibbi.

(Then-CEO Jack Dorsey -- whom Taibbi said was not involved in the decision -- has told US lawmakers that in hindsight, suppressing the story was a MISTAKE.)

The emails Taibbi obtained are CONSISTENT with what former Twitter site integrity head Yoel Roth told journalist Kara Swisher in an onstage interview EARLIER THIS WEEK. During that interview, Roth said he felt at the time that the Post reporting bore the hallmarks of a Russian hack-and-leak operation, an assessment that was shared at the time by dozens of former US intelligence officials.

Taibbi said the material he reviewed referenced general FBI warnings about potential attempted Russian interference in the elections, which also dovetails with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg's public account of Facebook's handling of the New York Post story and affirms how Twitter was on high alert for possible foreign meddling.

In the wake of the article's suppression, Taibbi said one Democratic congressman, California Rep. Ro Khanna, wrote to Twitter's chief legal officer suggesting it was a bad look and a departure from First Amendment ideals to suppress a news report containing details that affect a presidential candidate. Khanna noted in the email he was saying this even though he was a "total Biden partisan."

The tweet thread also highlighted how officials from both political parties routinely wrote to Twitter asking for specific tweets to be removed. Taibbi included a screenshot of an email from the "Biden team" asking to delete tweets. A review of those tweets on an archive site showed some purported photos of Hunter Biden, including nudity, that may have violated Twitter policy.

Taibbi said the contact from political parties happened more frequently from Democrats, but provided no internal documents to back up his assertion. He also did not say that Democrats requested that Twitter suppress the Post story, and his account did not suggest that the US government had ever pressured Twitter to suppress the story.

basilico:
who drank bleach?stupid person

IjeBos:
Again, point to the timestamp where Google says they had a "desire to do everything within their power to control the narrative". It does not exist. You are putting your "feelings" on peoples actual words.

IjeBos:
Google does not have a monopoly on search engines. Definition of monopoly (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monopoly). Here is msn's search engine. (https://www.bing.com/). Hence, not a monopoly.

IjeBos:
My words were he "suggested". And you are deliberately trying to minimize the power of his words. By talking about it during a press conference, for some that suggestion had the power of the President and US Government.

So because you used the word "suggested" you can say he said things he didn't? There was no mention of 'bleach' in anything he said. He literally told people to consult doctors but apparently that suggestion didn't have the power of the President and US Government, huh.

[quote author=IjeBos post=118879607]And here let's look at real world data.
Accidental Poisonings Increased After President Trump's Disinfectant Comments
https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/

And Lysol had to release a statement
"Under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route)."