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Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 7:59am On Dec 05, 2022
Hello Guru’s

Please I need your help.

I recently got an online remote job (customer service Agent) from US. Although the job is met for people in the US, but with the help of a friend over there, I got the job without the company knowing I don’t reside in the US.

Also with the help of VPN, I have been able to access the site because only US IP address can open some of their sites.

Agents are accessed weekly and scores are allocated to them based on their performance. This is done either by listen to your recorded conversation with client or remotely connect to your system and listen live to the conversation.

Now this issue: The company can only listen to my recorded conversations with clients but can’t remotely connect to my system to listen to my live phone conversation with clients, my system keeps blocking them out and they have sent series of messages that they won’t longer listen to recorded conversations and this can make them drop me.

Guru’s in the house, please is there something I need to do? Is it that the VPN is blocking the remote connection or there’s something I need to do on my system to enable them connect and listen to me live or the network i connected to is not strong.

Please your swift help will be highly appreciated.

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I think they discovered something about my IP address so they wanted to be sure I reside in the US because the job is exclusively for US citizens and you must be living in the US. As a agent, I have access to client details including CC details. So they requested for a zoom video call and also requested that I show my US ID Card. Lol.

My contact over there did the zoom video call for me and also provided his ID.

Thanks

Regards,
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by airsaylongcome: 8:38am On Dec 05, 2022
Did the employers provide a work laptop/computer? If yes where is that computer currently located? Na all these proxy roles and it can get tricky. But let’s start from there. Where is the work computer located and how are you accessing it?
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by julybaba(m): 9:04am On Dec 05, 2022
You need to allow access to your VPN software.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 9:17am On Dec 05, 2022
airsaylongcome:
Did the employers provide a work laptop/computer? If yes where is that computer currently located? Na all these proxy roles and it can get tricky. But let’s start from there. Where is the work computer located and how are you accessing it?


The employer didn’t provide work laptop/ computer.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 9:19am On Dec 05, 2022
julybaba:
You need to allow access to your VPN software.

Thank you.

I will try this, hopefully it’s works.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 9:25am On Dec 05, 2022
How do I allow access to VPN software? Is it on my system setting or VPN setting?

julybaba:
You need to allow access to your VPN software.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by airsaylongcome: 11:13am On Dec 05, 2022
So how are you accessing their phone system? Have a software (Microsip? Zoiper? Bria?) installed on your laptop and a VPN software connecting to a U.S. VPN? Plus I’m kind of suspicious about their claim to want to live monitor your calls by remotely accessing your laptop. That’s not how VoIP calls work. They can live monitor directly on the VoIP server by dialing the required feature code.

Any explain how you are connecting to them, and how they are trying to connect to you. Are they trying to remote to you using the IP address you present to their systems?
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by julybaba(m): 1:13pm On Dec 05, 2022
airsaylongcome:
So how are you accessing their phone system? Have a software (Microsip? Zoiper? Bria?) installed on your laptop and a VPN software connecting to a U.S. VPN? Plus I’m kind of suspicious about their claim to want to live monitor your calls by remotely accessing your laptop. That’s not how VoIP calls work. They can live monitor directly on the VoIP server by dialing the required feature code.


Any explain how you are connecting to them, and how they are trying to connect to you. Are they trying to remote to you using the IP address you present to their systems?

He may not be able to answer your questions.
Even if he can, the VPN software he's using may not have provisions for a dedicated static IP & IP whitelisting

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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by julybaba(m): 1:17pm On Dec 05, 2022
segmond:
How do I allow access to VPN software? Is it on my system setting or VPN setting?


Your VPN must provide you with a dedicated IP, and IP whitelisting features.

Then, whois the DNS address of the remote website you are working with.

Once you get the DNS address, whitelist it in your VPN.

*I believe your employer is trying to access your conversation via the remote website?*

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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by airsaylongcome: 1:20pm On Dec 05, 2022
julybaba:


He may not be able to answer your questions.
Even if he can, the VPN software he's using may not have provisions for a dedicated static IP & IP whitelisting

Absolutely right. And the fact that it’s a commercial VPN as opposed to a self-hosted one one say DO, GCP or AWS means he has limited capabilities to customize the config. For these kinds of “proxy roles”, I always recommend having a PC seating in the US. And then you can remotely access using Tailscale (or KVM if you cannot install software on the computer). Personally though, I don’t believe the employers reason for wanting remote access. There’s a feature called “Barge in” on VOIP telephone systems where admins with appropriate rights can listen in on a live call
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by telim: 2:08pm On Dec 05, 2022
The vpn might have block your employers from connecting to your pc. To avoid stuff like these Setup your own vpn by using ipv4 assigned to low end linux servers from digital ocean, vultr etc using open vpn.

It cost 5 to 7 usd for running the server every month.
If you are low on cash look for any Nigerian card and load minimum of 1usd then use the card to create a free trial aws ec2 acc and setup a vpn with any of the free trial ec2 liniux server using open vpn. Free trial aws acc last for 1 year. After a year use a new card with different email to get a new acc and repeat same process.

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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by stylishwears: 3:46pm On Dec 05, 2022
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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by Nko1: 4:21pm On Dec 05, 2022
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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 5:36pm On Dec 05, 2022
telim:
The vpn might have block your employers from connecting to your pc. To avoid stuff like these Setup your own vpn by using ipv4 assigned to low end linux servers from digital ocean, vultr etc using open vpn.

It cost 5 to 7 usd for running the server every month.
If you are low on cash look for any Nigerian card and load minimum of 1usd then use the card to create a free trial aws ec2 acc and setup a vpn with any of the free trial ec2 liniux server using open vpn. Free trial aws acc last for 1 year. After a year use a new card with different email to get a new acc and repeat same process.

is this what you are talking about?

Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by airsaylongcome: 9:14pm On Dec 05, 2022
telim:
The vpn might have block your employers from connecting to your pc. To avoid stuff like these Setup your own vpn by using ipv4 assigned to low end linux servers from digital ocean, vultr etc using open vpn.

It cost 5 to 7 usd for running the server every month.
If you are low on cash look for any Nigerian card and load minimum of 1usd then use the card to create a free trial aws ec2 acc and setup a vpn with any of the free trial ec2 liniux server using open vpn. Free trial aws acc last for 1 year. After a year use a new card with different email to get a new acc and repeat same process.

Won’t the employer’s suspicions be raised when they see that he is connecting from an AWS or DO ip?

OP, the person that linked you up with the job, can they not setup a PC/Laptop in the US that you can remotely connect to?
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by telim: 7:30am On Dec 06, 2022
airsaylongcome:


Won’t the employer’s suspicions be raised when they see that he is connecting from an AWS or DO ip?

OP, the person that linked you up with the job, can they not setup a PC/Laptop in the US that you can remotely connect to?

The site in question does not care about the type of ip used to access there site, Op as being using vpn to access the site without having any issue. Probably a vpn with shared ip with some close port. With open vpn op will have a total control on the configuration.

If he as about 100usd to invest per month he should try a residential vps.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by telim: 7:35am On Dec 06, 2022
segmond:


is this what you are talking about?
These is a vpn with a dedicated ip. You don't have control on the configuration of the vpn it is possible you will endup having same issue.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by QuoteJustOnce: 12:54pm On Dec 06, 2022
telim:
The vpn might have block your employers from connecting to your pc. To avoid stuff like these Setup your own vpn by using ipv4 assigned to low end linux servers from digital ocean, vultr etc using open vpn.

It cost 5 to 7 usd for running the server every month.
If you are low on cash look for any Nigerian card and load minimum of 1usd then use the card to create a free trial aws ec2 acc and setup a vpn with any of the free trial ec2 liniux server using open vpn. Free trial aws acc last for 1 year. After a year use a new card with different email to get a new acc and repeat same process.

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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by Nobody: 1:38pm On Dec 06, 2022
segmond:
Hello Guru’s

Please I need your help.

I recently got an online remote job (customer service Agent) from US. Although the job is met for people in the US, but with the help of a friend over there, I got the job without the company knowing I don’t reside in the US.

Also with the help of VPN, I have been able to access the site because only US IP address can open some of their sites.

Agents are accessed weekly and scores are allocated to them based on their performance. This is done either by listen to your recorded conversation with client or remotely connect to your system and listen live to the conversation.

Now this issue: The company can only listen to my recorded conversations with clients but can’t remotely connect to my system to listen to my live phone conversation with clients, my system keeps blocking them out and they have sent series of messages that they won’t longer listen to recorded conversations and this can make them drop me.

Guru’s in the house, please is there something I need to do? Is it that the VPN is blocking the remote connection or there’s something I need to do on my system to enable them connect and listen to me live or the network i connected to is not strong.

Please your swift help will be highly appreciated.

Regards,

Solutions will be provided based on available information that you stated.

Your recorded conversations can be listened to. The company don't need to connect to your local PC to listen to live conversation.

I'm curious as to why the company needs remote access to your PC. To listen to your live conversation, they don't need remote access to your PC. They can listen by using the barge, whisper or monitoring features of VOIP.

That said your VPN has nothing to do with denying remote access, by default, no one can have remote access to your PC except you explicitly allow the access, use a remote access app, or a company provided PC.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by Nobody: 1:55pm On Dec 06, 2022
telim:
The vpn might have block your employers from connecting to your pc. To avoid stuff like these Setup your own vpn by using ipv4 assigned to low end linux servers from digital ocean, vultr etc using open vpn.

It cost 5 to 7 usd for running the server every month.
If you are low on cash look for any Nigerian card and load minimum of 1usd then use the card to create a free trial aws ec2 acc and setup a vpn with any of the free trial ec2 liniux server using open vpn. Free trial aws acc last for 1 year. After a year use a new card with different email to get a new acc and repeat same process.

In this case if the issue is simply remote access, the VPS is not a good solution.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 7:15pm On Dec 07, 2022
Studymore123:


Solutions will be provided based on available information that you stated.

Your recorded conversations can be listened to. The company don't need to connect to your local PC to listen to live conversation.

I'm curious as to why the company needs remote access to your PC. To listen to your live conversation, they don't need remote access to your PC. They can listen by using the barge, whisper or monitoring features of VOIP.

That said your VPN has nothing to do with denying remote access, by default, no one can have remote access to your PC except you explicitly allow the access, use a remote access app, or a company provided PC.


I think they discovered something about my IP address so they wanted to be sure I reside in the US because the job is exclusively for US citizens and living in the US. As a agent, I have access to client details including CC details. So they requested for a zoom video call and also requested that I show my US ID Card. Lol.

My contact over there did the zoom video call and also provided his ID.

Thanks
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by Nobody: 9:02pm On Dec 07, 2022
segmond:



I think they discovered something about my IP address so they wanted to be sure I reside in the US because the job is exclusively for US citizens and living in the US. As a agent, I have access to client details including CC details. So they requested for a zoom video call and also requested that I show my US ID Card. Lol.

My contact over there did the zoom video call and also provided his ID.

Thanks

I thought as much. There are ways different ways they can discover and IP address is just one of them. I understand how those things work. The company doesn't have a robust system in place.
The major responsibility rests with your friend in the US.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 9:46pm On Dec 07, 2022
Studymore123:


I thought as much. There are ways different ways they can discover and IP address is just one of them. I understand how those things work. The company doesn't have a robust system in place.
The major responsibility rests with your friend in the US.

I have just subscribed for a dedicated IP address in the US. I think my IP address keep changing and that raises some alarm. I hope this will solve the issue.

Thank you.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by airsaylongcome: 12:23pm On Dec 08, 2022
@OP, I will advise that you and your US contact get a dedicated computer set up at his location where you can remote access and use it to access your work resources. I’ve had a friend working a proxy role like you. VPN connection failed once and her Naija IP was exposed. System kicked her out immediately and notified IT. She was lucky her contact in the US had a good explanation. Na so dem for loose the job. Get a PC seating in US and save yourself any stress and risk. It’s even good that they aren’t providing a work computer. It means you can install whatever remote access app you want. TeamViewer, Anydesk, Tailscale, or even RustDesk

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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by tensazangetsu20(m): 1:43pm On Dec 08, 2022
airsaylongcome:
@OP, I will advise that you and your US contact get a dedicated computer set up at his location where you can remote access and use it to access your work resources. I’ve had a friend working a proxy role like you. VPN connection failed once and her Naija IP was exposed. System kicked her out immediately and notified IT. She was lucky her contact in the US had a good explanation. Na so dem for loose the job. Get a PC seating in US and save yourself any stress and risk. It’s even good that they aren’t providing a work computer. It means you can install whatever remote access app you want. TeamViewer, Anydesk, Tailscale, or even RustDesk

Sir with all this limitations, you still sure say make person still stay naija so. To get job is one problem, to do job, another problem to even get paid for the job done, algebraic equations.

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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by QuoteJustOnce: 1:50pm On Dec 08, 2022
Or just rent a pc from AWS; no vpns required.
MacOs go for between 17 - 25 usd per day. That's a minimum of $340 for 20 working days
or as low as $200 p/m if you're renting long-term
and have peace of mind
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by airsaylongcome: 2:07pm On Dec 08, 2022
tensazangetsu20:


Sir with all this limitations, you still sure say make person still stay naija so. To get job is one problem, to do job, another problem to even get paid for the job done, algebraic equations.

This one is not limitation because of Naija. This remote job is restricted to US Remote. Na over wise dey worry us when we in Naija want to take these kinds of job. And to jump around the hoop you have to face all these “limitations”. Na one American sef na hin teach me. He has four US remote jobs. And he wanted to go to Malaysia and chill but not inform his employers. We do small research and bought and configured a KVM device that was installed in his home. Baba was able to remotely access all for workstations simultaneously without exposing his Malaysian IP.

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Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by airsaylongcome: 2:09pm On Dec 08, 2022
QuoteJustOnce:
Or just rent a pc from AWS; no vpns required.
MacOs go for between 17 - 25 usd per day. That's a minimum of $340 for 20 working days
or as low as $200 p/m if you're renting long-term
and have peace of mind

Again I ask, would the use of an AWS IP not send bells ringing? In my experience, using IPs from a data Centre is a dead giveaway that you are most likely using a VPN.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by QuoteJustOnce: 2:30pm On Dec 08, 2022
airsaylongcome:


Again I ask, would the use of an AWS IP not send bells ringing? In my experience, using IPs from a data Centre is a dead giveaway that you are most likely using a VPN.

been in this situation, no no they don't give a f**k if you're using aws, gcp, vpn with a usa ip; as long as they are able to establish your identity at the onset as being physically present in the states; unless the employer is too pesky and micromanaging
many people physically present in the usa still use cloud vpns
in my situation i even had to receive calls via call-forwarding, employer -> proxy -> me
and trust me it was a whole lot of lengthy calls.
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by segmond(m): 2:42pm On Dec 08, 2022
QuoteJustOnce:


been in this situation, no no they don't give a f**k if you're using aws, gcp, vpn with a usa ip; as long as they are able to establish your identity at the onset as being physically present in the states; unless the employer is too pesky and micromanaging
many people physically present in the usa still use cloud vpns
in my situation i even had to receive calls via call-forwarding, employer -> proxy -> me
and trust me it was a whole lot of lengthy calls.

Verification has been done through zoom video call and US ID was requested for. So the identity has been established. Will you advise I continue using my dedicated US VPN ip?
Re: Help: Employer Unable To Connect Remotely by QuoteJustOnce: 2:46pm On Dec 08, 2022
segmond:


Verification has been done through zoom video call and US ID was requested for. So the identity has been established. Will you advise I continue using my dedicated US VPN ip?

Yes, brov. You will basically get flagged for switching IPs randomly and that will raise questions that needs to be answered.
Today you're in Tallahassee and tomorrow Miami, how possible is that? Unless you traveling and do you travel everyday?
Next tomorrow, Brooklyn and then in the evening, Queens.
Even PayPal might block you if you switch ips randomly (even within the same state). keep to your dedicated ip, and make sure it don't change at not anytime soon.

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