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Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by PHIPEX(m): 3:56pm On Dec 08, 2022
Following the ongoing Japa waive across the country, 9 different families within my immediate circles have relocated to UK in the last 1year. But looking at it they are all in the working class/paid employment circle.

Why are Nigerian businessmen not leaving the country in waives too? I have noticed that lots of successful businessmen around who can afford the cost of relocation are not interested in the ongoing waive, what is the secret? What are they seeing that those in paid employment are not seeing?

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Naira20: 4:04pm On Dec 08, 2022
It depends on what they are doing.

Mind you, Our Politicians are Businessmen too

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Millimann: 4:10pm On Dec 08, 2022
Very valid observation

This government has finished the country economy patapata.

Price of virtually anything you can think of has doubled between 2015 and now.

The type of bread that I used to buy for N300 is now N600. I just bought Oral B for N600. It was about N300 in 2015. Petrol price has more than doubled.

In all these salaries have not really changed but the businessmen always maintain their profit margin. As the government continues to mess up they continue to increase their own selling prices.

Why will they relocate when they can always increase their prices and maintain their profit margin.

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Munamoqel: 4:19pm On Dec 08, 2022
PHIPEX:
Following the ongoing Japa waive across the country, 9 different families within my immediate circles have relocated to UK in the last 1year. But looking at it they are all in the working class/paid employment circle.

Why are Nigerian businessmen not leaving the country in waives too? I have noticed that lots of successful businessmen around who can afford the cost of relocation are not interested in the ongoing waive, what is the secret? What are they seeing that those in paid employment are not seeing?
why will dey relocate to slave in the cold ! When 30000 pounds fees can set up a SME that can generate 750k per month with dinity . A developing Nation is an entrepreneur Gold mine . Imagine a Nation of 200m all consuming pure water daily cos of the govt has failed in providing pipeborne water ! Then imagine 30000 pounds (which most UK citizens don't have ) 20m used in setting a bottling water firm . Iceberg a successful water factory no pass 20m investment .

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Munamoqel: 4:21pm On Dec 08, 2022
20m can also develop 100 hectares of rice and get 4000 bags of rice x20000 =80m . This why anytime you ask buhari for money he will say go back to the farm .

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by ednut1(m): 4:54pm On Dec 08, 2022
PHIPEX:
Following the ongoing Japa waive across the country, 9 different families within my immediate circles have relocated to UK in the last 1year. But looking at it they are all in the working class/paid employment circle.

Why are Nigerian businessmen not leaving the country in waives too? I have noticed that lots of successful businessmen around who can afford the cost of relocation are not interested in the ongoing waive, what is the secret? What are they seeing that those in paid employment are not seeing?
some are sending their wives and kids there, some of them also gave birth to their kids in usa. The current japa wave is for student visa in uk. Which business man wan do that Many of them also married women wey no like book or go school. Nigeria has a population of 200m everyone cant japa, anyone who decides to let them be. Wetin concern u

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by uchman(m): 5:59pm On Dec 08, 2022
Because they are not graduates, UK Japa is for students mostly masters

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Ugosample(m): 9:07pm On Dec 08, 2022
PHIPEX:
Following the ongoing Japa waive across the country, 9 different families within my immediate circles have relocated to UK in the last 1year. But looking at it they are all in the working class/paid employment circle.

Why are Nigerian businessmen not leaving the country in waives too? I have noticed that lots of successful businessmen around who can afford the cost of relocation are not interested in the ongoing waive, what is the secret? What are they seeing that those in paid employment are not seeing?

From what I hear going on

Some business men are selling their businesses and leaving the country too

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by AnitaofEurope: 9:20pm On Dec 08, 2022
Munamoqel:
why will dey relocate to slave in the cold ! When 30000 pounds fees can set up a SME that can generate 750k per month with dinity . A developing Nation is an entrepreneur Gold mine . Imagine a Nation of 200m all consuming pure water daily cos of the govt has failed in providing pipeborne water ! Then imagine 30000 pounds (which most UK citizens don't have ) 20m used in setting a bottling water firm . Iceberg a successful water factory no pass 20m investment .
Are people not working as slaves in Nigeria
Hahahha

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Munamoqel: 9:53pm On Dec 08, 2022
AnitaofEurope:

Are people not working as slaves in Nigeria
Hahahha
self consolation.
Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by babakb: 10:14pm On Dec 08, 2022
Munamoqel:
self consolation.

You are living in denial...

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Wickedfacts: 11:24pm On Dec 08, 2022
uchman:
Because they are not graduate, UK Japa is for students mostly masters

UK japa is for new generation slavery. They carried their fathers, they are by themselves boarding planes to go serve her majesty.
There are better countries to japa to. Go to Canada and other countries, leave UK alone. The UK is not really economically buoyant. Within the next 1 year, they will change their immigration policy to deal with Nigerians flocking there and Una eyes go clear.

Most of those relocating to the UK are those who have never traveled out in their lives. The average businessman will go to the UK and watch a match at Wembley. Those who japa can't even watch the match, they will be outside the stadium selling popcorn.

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by PHIPEX(m): 11:31pm On Dec 08, 2022
Ugosample:


From what I hear going on

Some business men are selling their businesses and leaving the country too
Am sure you have never seen any businessman who did that.

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Mindlog: 3:36am On Dec 09, 2022
PHIPEX:
Am sure you have never seen any businessman who did that.

I have, both husband and wife own their businesses in Nigeria. They closed shop and relocated to the UK with their 3 kids via study route January of this year.

The husband works as a Mental Health support Worker with the hope of going back to school to do mental health nursing, while the wife who came in as student, works in the firm where I work and she works as a children residential support worker which has given her and her family, tier 2 visa (5 years sponsorship). At least between she and her husband, they are earning about £3,900/monthly after tax and other deductions.

So don't generalize.
Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by uchman(m): 6:20am On Dec 09, 2022
Wickedfacts:


UK japa is for new generation slavery. They carried their fathers, they are by themselves boarding planes to go serve her majesty.
There are better countries to japa to. Go to Canada and other countries, leave UK alone. The UK is not really economically buoyant. Within the next 1 year, they will change their immigration policy to deal with Nigerians flocking there and Una eyes go clear.

Most of those relocating to the UK are those who have never traveled out in their lives. The average businessman will go to the UK and watch a match at Wembley. Those who japa can't even watch the match, they will be outside the stadium selling popcorn.

To Japa to UK will always be better than living in Nigeria.
Whether they are first time travellers or frequent, a journey of 1000 miles starts with a step.
Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by BigDawsNet: 8:04am On Dec 09, 2022
PHIPEX:
Following the ongoing Japa waive across the country, 9 different families within my immediate circles have relocated to UK in the last 1year. But looking at it they are all in the working class/paid employment circle.

Why are Nigerian businessmen not leaving the country in waives too? I have noticed that lots of successful businessmen around who can afford the cost of relocation are not interested in the ongoing waive, what is the secret? What are they seeing that those in paid employment are not seeing?

If you are a real businessman and you committed in making a great successful business for tour self in Nigeria... you won't think of selling everything off and starting allover abroad...

Lot of buisness guys only travel vacation to rest.. not relocation

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by TWoods(m): 8:40am On Dec 09, 2022
It is complicated. Most of these “businessmen” are either politicians or acolytes. Their “businesses” revolve around government contracts and are sustained by massive corruption. Why would they leave for other countries? It’s like asking why someone like tinubu wants to run for president rather than live in the UK.

Virtually ALL these “businessmen” have their wives and children living and schooling abroad. Every summer, we are bombarded by pictures of these “businessmen” celebrating the graduation of their children… I’ve never seen one such picture from them in a Nigerian school. The majority of them and their families are dual citizens. Please allow the middle class make independent decisions for their own offspring… they are not obligated to stay in the same country ruined by your so-called “businessmen”.

Let me ask, where do you think the children of Mike adenuga, Jim ovia, otedola, oyakhilome, tinubu, adeleke live and school?

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by jesmond3945: 11:00am On Dec 09, 2022
This thread na consolations things.

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Wickedfacts: 12:39pm On Dec 09, 2022
uchman:

To Japa to UK will always be better than living in Nigeria.
Whether they are first time travellers or frequent, a journey of 1000 miles starts with a step.

Going to the UK is a misstep. Other countries are far better than the UK.
Canada, Yes. Some countries in Europe, yes.
UK? No.
Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Soulvein: 3:24pm On Dec 09, 2022
Economics 101.

When there is inflation, fixed-income /salary earners suffer while business owners or traders gain more.

Besides, people have different reasons for travelling out of the country. I know business owners that have sold their businesses and relocated abroad and I equally know salary earners who are not interested in the so called Japa because Nigeria is treating them well.
Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by dplordx(m): 3:48pm On Dec 09, 2022
As a business man, I experimented with some countries where I spent roughly 2 to 3 months to decide. I will discuss the two I just returned from.
1 - Instabul, Turkey. I wanted to know the financial details of Japa. Turkey was too expensive, the cheapest food and AirBnB including transportation on daily basis costs over $100 when converted to the lira. That’s about $3,000 monthly — that’s about N2.1 monthly here in Naija. The few Nigerians I saw there are just scammers and students on scholarship; the country has no jobs for even blacks, you are other into crime or you are on a long thing. The weather is insanity during October to January. I woke up in the middle of a night and rushed out of my room to the bathroom to open the hot water on my head because I was shivering. Insane weather, crazy bills to pay

2 — Marseille, France. Why did I end up in Marseille, it’s one of the multicultural regions in France where things are still cheaper. I also speak small French. Marseille also has many Africans, e.g Nigerians, Francophone Africans, Gambians, Algerians, and many Arabs and North Africans thriving there. But oh my God, the cheapest apartment goes for 2,000 euros per month, even this apartment sef are in bad neighborhoods with many junkie blacks who will stab you for 1 euros if you walk out late at night. The rooms tiny pass coffin, you will hear your neighbor fu**an in the next room. If you cough them go hear you too.
Mind you cameras are everywhere but some neighborhood are not totally safe due to high number of Arabs and blacks living there.
Even from the hunger wey dey the face of the stranded blacks, mostly who are junkies, you will know say if these one grab you for dark, na sorry be your name
Food nko, to eat better food, hold like 50 euros daily no joke.
Transportation: Take the tram it costs just 5 euros for like 1 kilometer or walk like most Africans. If you take taxify or bolt, you fit go 30 minutes trip make them sama you 95 euros that’s like 80k for Ikeja to Oshodi trip. Public bus pay.
And the weather, it’s a cold room level one. The blacks are the cleaners, the street sweepers and the most feared because of the blacks are criminals. They are also the most wretched, you won’t see them in any decent restaurants, except when you go to the Arab restaurants where you fit get taco of 5 euros, this kind of food you can’t survive on it for 1 month without developing some serious health wahala, it’s not even what you feed your children.

After some months, I pack my kaya I’m back. Next year, my wife is traveling to the UK for some months to decide. Mind you, I’ve been there, it’s even worse than these two countries I just analyzed.

I will continue one day, for me, I’m not leaving this country, God will give me grace, safe and abundance to love a wonderful life in it. Anyone young man wants to japa with their entire family, you go fear fear; all these expenses I no add wife and children feeding and other expense. And pls there is no free education and health care until you become a citizen and this may take up to 8 or 10 years. Forget all this rubbish travel agents are posting, I was there, saw and learned.

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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by AgentGoat: 4:39pm On Dec 09, 2022
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Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Munamoqel: 4:53pm On Dec 09, 2022
It even mad that Uk is facing tough time now and strike and strike .na now Nigerians they jump straight into this problem the UK is facing .are we ok .
Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by TWoods(m): 9:41am On Dec 11, 2022
dplordx:

And pls there is no free education and health care until you become a citizen and this may take up to 8 or 10 years. Forget all this rubbish travel agents are posting, I was there, saw and learned.

There is never free education or healthcare anywhere. Societies pay taxes to socialize costs. Too many Nigerians want to waltz in and take advantage of a system they did not provide for.
Re: Japa Syndrome: Why Are The Business Men Not Relocating? by Itsrm(m): 11:46am On Dec 11, 2022
AgentGoat:
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I thought it was him who wrote the post above yours. Had to check again

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