ariesbull:
which land...when federal government build roads do they take permission from states or do they take permission from states to drill oil

Why did you think Ruga and Water resources bill were stopped?

You know why all this is funny. It's the wailing and anger just because River state was asked to be carried along. Entitled OLE

ariesbull:
which land...when federal government build roads do they take permission from states or do they take permission from states to drill oil

Yes the State must be Carried along
Otherwise they will not even get the land to build the road on

Why are you spending so much time and energy brainstorming how to Manipulate FG to take other people's Ancestral Lands

christistruth01:



Rivers State Lands and Rivers are held in Trust and Controlled by Rivers State Government for their People


This feels like Ruga all over again

So it is not even only Herdsmen that are desperate to take over others Ancestral Lands ?

Why are you greedily eyeballing other People's Lands?

MUGU we aren't talking about lands we are talking about rivers and international passage way


According to the 1982 convention, each country’s sovereign territorial waters extend to a maximum of 12 nautical miles (22 km) beyond its coast, but foreign vessels are granted the right of innocent passage through this zone. Passage is innocent as long as a ship refrains from engaging in certain prohibited activities, including weapons testing, spying, smuggling, serious pollution, fishing, or scientific research. Where territorial waters comprise straits used for international navigation (e.g., the straits of Gibraltar, Mandeb, Hormuz, and Malacca), the navigational rights of foreign shipping are strengthened by the replacement of the regime of innocent passage by one of transit passage, which places fewer restrictions on foreign ships. A similar regime exists in major sea-lanes through the waters of archipelagos (e.g., Indonesia).

christistruth01:



Rivers State Lands and Rivers are held in Trust and Controlled by Rivers State Government for their People


This feels like Ruga all over again

So it is not only Herdsmen that are desperate to take over others Ancestral Lands ?

Why are you greedily eyeballing other People's Lands?

Now you are playing up emotional feeling. Let's see how far you go in stoping federal project that's for the overall interest of the nation, from hitting Imo state. By the way, the dregding of Oguta river port has been concluded before now only waiting for concession for operation

ariesbull:
MUGU we aren't talking about lands we are talking about rivers and international passage way


According to the 1982 convention, each country’s sovereign territorial waters extend to a maximum of 12 nautical miles (22 km) beyond its coast, but foreign vessels are granted the right of innocent passage through this zone. Passage is innocent as long as a ship refrains from engaging in certain prohibited activities, including weapons testing, spying, smuggling, serious pollution, fishing, or scientific research. Where territorial waters comprise straits used for international navigation (e.g., the straits of Gibraltar, Mandeb, Hormuz, and Malacca), the navigational rights of foreign shipping are strengthened by the replacement of the regime of innocent passage by one of transit passage, which places fewer restrictions on foreign ships. A similar regime exists in major sea-lanes through the waters of archipelagos (e.g., Indonesia).

Hit him harder, the Werey will collapse shortly

ariesbull:
MUGU we aren't talking about lands we are talking about rivers and international passage way


According to the 1982 convention, each country’s sovereign territorial waters extend to a maximum of 12 nautical miles (22 km) beyond its coast, but foreign vessels are granted the right of innocent passage through this zone. Passage is innocent as long as a ship refrains from engaging in certain prohibited activities, including weapons testing, spying, smuggling, serious pollution, fishing, or scientific research. Where territorial waters comprise straits used for international navigation (e.g., the straits of Gibraltar, Mandeb, Hormuz, and Malacca), the navigational rights of foreign shipping are strengthened by the replacement of the regime of innocent passage by one of transit passage, which places fewer restrictions on foreign ships. A similar regime exists in major sea-lanes through the waters of archipelagos (e.g., Indonesia).

The Rivers are the Property of the Landowners

For example River Benue flowing through Benue belongs to Benue State

If the River flows through the border it is shared by the States bordering it for example River Niger between Anambra,Kogi and Delta States

christistruth01:




Yes the State must be Carried along
Otherwise they will not even get the land to build the road on

Why are you spending so much time and energy brainstorming how to Manipulate FG to take other people's Ancestral Lands

When you are done crying, go and stop Nigerian Navy. Buahahhahahahah

christistruth01:


The Rivers are the Property of the Landowners

Keep wailing

Supremos:
When you are done crying, go and stop Nigerian Navy. Buahahhahahahah

The Nigerian Navy doesn't Seize Land
they provide Security

christistruth01:


The Nigerian Navy doesn't Seize Land
they provide Security

stop them from that

christistruth01:


The Rivers are the Property of the Landowners

For example River Benue flowing through Benue belongs to Benue State

If the River flows through the border it is shared by the States bordering it for example River Niger between Anambra,Kogi and Delta States

law is clear

ariesbull:
stop them from that

They wouldn't even do it so there is nothing to Stop

diadem10:


Why did you think Ruga and Water resources bill were stopped?

You know why all this is funny. It's the wailing and anger just because River state was asked to be carried along. Entitled OLE

Ruga means different thing. Buhari want to appropriate the lands of indigenous people and do with it as he deems fit, especially as regards handing the appropriated lands to his kings men for animal husbandry.
Nobody is taking Rivers state land or water here, federal government simply wants to make it navigable for the nations economic interest simple.

Water resource bill on it's own means something different entirely. On the issue of water resource bill, fg wants to own the waters and every resources in them. Like the offshore oil operations, and if it happens no more 13% for offshore oil wells.

For you to mention this two things shows that you are more interested in causing ethnic rivalry than being schooled.

This is like where federal government wants to build federal highway cutting across states. They owe no state any apology

ariesbull:
law is clear

Yes it is

Land and Rivers belong to the State they are in

christistruth01:


The Nigerian Navy doesn't Seize Land
they provide Security

And they never told you they're coming to rivers state take over their lands and I agree, they provide security on our water ways, and part of the ways they can provide the security on our waterways is making the nations waterways navigable for easy accessibility and security operations especially combating crude oil theft in regards to the Niger Delta

christistruth01:


Yes it is

Land and Rivers belong to the State they are in

keep talking about land as if someone is dragging land with you

Supremos:
Ruga means different thing. Buhari want to appropriate the lands of indigenous people and do with it as he deems fit, especially as regards handing the appropriated lands to his kings men for animal husbandry.
Nobody is taking Rivers state land or water here, federal government simply wants to make it navigable for the nations economic interest simple.

Water resource bill on it's own means something different entirely. On the issue of water resource bill, fg wants to own the waters and every resources in them. Like the offshore oil operations, and if it happens no more 13% for offshore oil wells.

For you to mention this two things shows that you are more interested in causing ethnic rivalry than being schooled.

This is like where federal government wants to build federal highway cutting across states. They owe no state any apology

The Land for the highway must be first given by the State Government on behalf of the indigenous people

If the State Government says it has no available Land the Government will take another route

Let me tell you a Story

In the early 1900s when the British Colonial Masters were building the Railway the Ijebu People after Lagos refused to give them land for the Railway and that was why the Railway had to go through Abeokuta to Ibadan and eventually to Kano

ariesbull:
that guy na MUGU ....

Abia state is still dredging Obuaku Azumini blue sea also....to the Atlantic


he will have BP

those who uses the politics of landlocksm to try to wiltle the influence and wealth of the great Igbo nation are the ones crying

Christistruth00:



Go and read the Land Use Act Of 1976

The State Government controls the Land in the State Rivers on that Land are included

If Buhari’s FG mistakenly had any access to the Rivers in States there would be Cows grazing all along the River Niger from Sokoto to the Sea

Why do you think Miyetti Allah are still fighting the government of Benue?

They lost their access to River Benue because Ortom banned them from Benue

NIWA, NIMASA, NAVY Don’t own the Rivers the States do
those agencies only help with their Security

What has "Land Use Act" got to do with territorial and waterways in Nigeria?

Supremos:
those who uses the politics of landlocksm to try to wiltle the influence and wealth of the great Igbo nation are the ones crying

exactly

Idiko1:


What has "Land Use Act" got to do with territorial and water ways in Nigeria?

Every single thing because it belongs to the States

Why are you so disturbed that Rivers State Lands and Rivers belong to Rivers State Government?

christistruth01:



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Please indicate to me one iota of line which talked about territorial waters and waterways in Nigeria from the above posted crap.

christistruth01:


The Land for the highway must be first given by the State Government on behalf of the indigenous people

If the State Government says it has no available Land the Government will take another route

Let me tell you a Story

In the early 1900s when the British Colonial Masters were building the Railway the Ijebu People refused to give them land for the Railway that was why the Railway had to go through Abeokuta to Ibadan and eventually to Kano

Yoruba Muslim, the fg isn't asking for any fresh land to create a pseudo canal, the water has been there for ages and has been navigable. In fact most of the crude oil theft going on in Imo and Rivers state, uses that waterways because it's less manned by security forces. That waterway has been receiving heavy duty equipments and barges even during the war. You are just crying all over here

Idiko1:


Please indicate me one iota of line which talked about territorial waters and waterways in Nigeria from the above posted crap.

Read it

Land includes the Rivers Trees and Mountains and everything on it

Idiko1:


What has "Land Use Act" got to do with territorial and water ways in Nigeria?

the idiot is trying to divert attention by crying land, land, land. Lol. Who gives a flying f*ck about Rivers land? The waterways must be made navigable that's what fg is saying.

Supremos:
the idiot is trying to divert attention by crying land, land, land. Lol. Who gives a flying f*ck about Rivers land? The waterways must be made navigable that's what fg is saying.

Rivers State Waterways belong to Rivers State
They decide if to make it Navigable or not
and not the FG


Thank God

Otherwise the side if the waterways would have been taken over by Cows from Sokoto to the Sea Long ago

Supremos:
Ruga means different thing. Buhari want to appropriate the lands of indigenous people and do with it as he deems fit, especially as regards handing the appropriated lands to his kings men for animal husbandry.
Nobody is taking Rivers state land or water here, federal government simply wants to make it navigable for the nations economic interest simple.

Water resource bill on it's own means something different entirely. On the issue of water resource bill, fg wants to own the waters and every resources in them. Like the offshore oil operations, and if it happens no more 13% for offshore oil wells.

For you to mention this two things shows that you are more interested in causing ethnic rivalry than being schooled.

This is like where federal government wants to build federal highway cutting across states. They owe no state any apology

How's is that different from dredging People's land to bring in Ocean? Many are filling in ocean inlet to prevent Ocean surge into the land but you wanna dredge people's land to bring Ocean? The pros and cons should be weighed and yeah, River state should be carried along. A little dredge could be done and left to see what happens to River state communities before going further with any dredging. Point is River state has to be carried along. I don't know why the anger over this. Which shows your innate entitlement, stealing and wanting to dominate people's things.

christistruth01:



Every single thing because it belongs to the States

Why are you so disturbed that Rivers State Lands and Rivers belong to Rivers State Government?

Are you insinuating the fact River Niger flows through many states in Nigeria therefore persons should require permission from the states to use the river? Again, territorial waters and waterways are exclusive domain of the government in the center. The same reason applies to offshore and Onshore activities. The last sentence of the above crap showed you are not intellectually ready for democracy.

diadem10:


How's is that different from dredging People's land to bring in Ocean? Many are filling in ocean inlet to prevent Ocean surge into the land but you wanna dredge people's land to bring Ocean? The pros and cons should be weighed and yeah, River state should be carried along. A little dredge could be done and left to see what happens to River state communities before going further with any dredging. Point is River state has to be carried along. I don't know why the anger over this. Which shows your innate entitlement, stealing and wanting to dominate people's things.

Don't mind him

Do they want Rivers People to leave themselves open to being washed away by Tsunami
As if they are not suffering enough flooding already

He makes Sardauna's complaint about trying to monopolize other People's domains look genuine even though Sardauna's People also dey over do when looking for Cattle Grazing Land

diadem10:


How's is that different from dredging People's land to bring in Ocean? Many are filling in ocean inlet to prevent Ocean surge into the land but you wanna dredge people's land to bring Ocean? The pros and cons should be weighed and yeah, River state should be carried along. A little dredge could be done and left to see what happens to River state communities before going further with any dredging. Point is River state has to be carried along. I don't know why the anger over this. Which shows your innate entitlement, stealing and wanting to dominate people's things.

First I am not the one doing the dregding but federal government who in their wisdom hasn't seen any negative impact on the environment.

Secondly, nowhere in the world is waterways blocked because water will always find it's natural route.

Thirdly, Nobody is taking Rivers state land as the dregding is done in the water. The waterway is big enough to carry vessels and hence theirs no need for expanding the route, nobody land is needed.

Lastly, your ploy to play up sentiment and hate will always fail you

Supremos:
First I am not the one doing the dregding but federal government who in their wisdom hasn't seen any negative impact on the environment.

Secondly, nowhere in the world is waterways blocked because water will always find it's natural route.

Thirdly, Nobody is taking Rivers state land as the dregding is done in the water. The waterway is big enough to carry vessels and hence theirs no need for expanding the route, nobody land is needed.

Lastly, your ploy to play up sentiment and hate will always fail you

River or water ways is different from Ocean. Sink that into your skull. And Yeah, River state has to be carried along.

diadem10:


They can't even dredge people's land. It's that simple.

U are confused. Who is talking about dredging land to bring ocean.